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> There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. A highly white-collar perspective. The great irony of technologist-led industrial revolution
by 9dev 2y ago
> There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do.
A highly white-collar perspective. The great irony of technologist-led industrial revolution is that we set out to automate the mundane, physical labor, but instead cannibalised the creative jobs first. It's a wonderful example of Conway's law, as the creators modelled the solution after themselves. However, even with a lot of programmers and lawyers and architects going out of business, the majority of the population working in factories, building houses, cutting people's hair, or tending to gardens, is still in business—and will not be replaced any time soon.
The contenders for "superhuman AI", for now, are glorified approximations of what a random Redditor might utter next.
- cubefox 2y agoAdvanced AI will solve robotics as well, and do away with human physical labor.
- Vegenoid 2y agoAnd with a wave of a hand and a reading of the tea leaves, the future has been foretold.
- segasaturn 2y agoWaymo robotaxis, the current state of the art for real-world AI robotics, are thwarted by a simple traffic cone placed on the roof. I don't think human labor is going away any soon.
- 9dev 2y agoIf that AI is worth more than a dime, it will recognise how incredibly efficient humans are in physical labor, and employ them instead of ”doing away“ with it (whatever that’s even supposed to mean.) No matter how much you ”solve“ robotics, you’re not going to compete with the result of millions of years of brutal natural selection, the incredible layering of synergies in organisms, the efficiency of the biomass to energy conversion, and the billions of other sophisticated biological systems. It’s all just science fiction and propaganda.
- nopinsight 2y agoThe efficiency you mentioned probably applies to animals that rely on subsistence to survive, work, and reproduce. But it doesn't hold for modern humans, whose needs go well beyond mere necessities.
- smeeger 2y agowrong. a human needs to have insane resources to operate. each human needs a home, clean water, delicious and varied foods and a sense of identity and a society to be a part of. they need a sense of purpose. if a human goes down in the field, it has to be medically treated or else the other humans will throw up and stop working. that human has to be treated in a hospital. if these conditions arent met then performance will degrade rapidly. humans use vastly more resources than robots. robots will crush humans.
- anon7725 2y ago> If that AI is worth more than a dime, it will recognise how incredibly efficient humans are in physical labor, and employ them instead of ”doing away“ with it (whatever that’s even supposed to mean.) AI employing all humans does not sound like a wonderful society in which to live. Basically Amazon/Walmart scaled up to the whole population level.
- highspeedbus 2y agoYour argument goes like "If they're really intelligent, they'll think like me." For a true superhuman AI, what you or me think is irrelevant and probably wrong. Cars are still faster than humans, besides evolution.
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoIt's a matter of time. White collar professionals have to worry about being cost-competitive with GPUs; blue collar laborers have to worry about being cost-competitive with servomotors. Those are both hard to keep up with in the long run.
- salemh 2y ago[dead]
- 9dev 2y agoThe idea that robots displace workers has been around for more than half a century, but nothing has ever come out of it. As it turns out, the problems a robot faces when, say laying bricks, are prohibitively complex to solve. A human bricklayer is better in every single dimension. And even if you manage to build an extremely sophisticated robot bricklayer, it will consume vast amounts of energy, is not repairable by a typical construction company, requires expensive spare parts, and costs a ridiculous amount of money. Why on earth would anyone invest in that when you have an infinite amount of human work available?
- janice1999 2y ago> but nothing has ever come out of it Have you ever seen the inside of a modern car factory?
- 9dev 2y agoA factory is a fully controlled environment. All that neat control goes down the drain when you’re confronted with the outside world—weather, wind, animals, plants, pollen, rubbish, teenagers, dust, daylight, and a myriad of other factors ruining your robot's day.
- zizee 2y agoI'm not sure that "humans will still dominate work performed in uncontrolled environments" leaves much opportunity for the majority of humanity.
- amelius 2y agoAI is doing all the fun jobs such as painting and writing. The crappy jobs are left for humans.
- smeeger 2y agodo you know how ignorant and rude this comment is?
- yoyohello13 2y agoI'm glad I spent 10 years working to become a better programmer so I could eventually become a ditch digger.