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Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.
by fabian2k 2y ago
Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.
- anonzzzies 2y agoI cannot understand why anyone would work there, especially in office. but each their own.
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- DevX101 2y agoI have him blocked but the CEO has 200 million followers. Even assuming 20% are real people, I'd imagine there's quite a few of those who'd love to work at his company.
- loceng 2y agoWhy do you have him blocked, and just not following him?
- JohnMakin 2y agoI don’t know if you’ve been on X lately but even if not following him you can receive push notifications from his tweets. Tested this on multiple accounts now, he’s unavoidable unless blocked and sometimes not even then because of all the bootlicker accounts that screenshot and repost his tweets. Frankly it’s made the platform unusable to me, almost nothing he posts is interesting or worth reading.
- Aeolun 2y agoWhy be on X in the first place? I lost all reason to be there about around the time of the rename.
- 1oooqooq 2y agoexactly! reading xitter today is worse than daytime television. contributing to it's content pool is just counter intuitive.
- loceng 2y agoSo my understanding is Elon reduced the algorithm's bubble effect - causing people to be exposed to contrarian content, content a person doesn't agree with, so that it would be witnessed by more people. Do you think it's a problem that people are coddled in bubbles?
- lupire 2y agoDo you think it's a problem that people are inundated with rage bait and scams? That's it's own "bubble". People aren't getting educational and uplifting material shoved into their feeds.
- Washuu 2y agoIf you are a content creator on Twitch or YouTube you pretty are being held hostage on Twitter due to critical mass. Migrating would require a mass protest of large content creators to choose a new platform and move over all at once.
- exe34 2y agoIt's his personal blog, and he allows the plebs to post comments.
- dorfsmay 2y agoA lot of scientists and journalists have not moved to other platforms. I tried to use instagram instead but the algorithmic injection of content and a terrible UI make it unusable for me. I find using Twitter in the "following" mode, as opposed to the default "for you", I get a lot of value content and almost no noise.
- hcurtiss 2y ago
- rendall 2y agoI just have Musk muted and I never, ever see his posts nor retweets.
- wokwokwok 2y agoI stopped using X because it was literally impossible to not see his posts. /shrug My partner has the same. …but, to be fair, who knows what different variants of the platform are given to different people in different regions at different times.
- loceng 2y agoShould a person with the most followers in the world have more people seeing, to then be able to know what they are sharing or saying, to then have more eyeballs to scrutinize them? Should they have more or less eyeballs witnessing them, and responding to them? I'd rather see what they are saying directly vs. seeing other articles about him that are most likely propaganda nowadays with how corrupted the media currently is, hence partly why ELon felt compelled to buy Twitter-X to begin with. But fair enough, blocking him then could make sense.
- bigallen 2y agoDissenting opinions are Not Tolerated
- numpad0 2y agoNot following is for content you don't mind seeing, muting is for annoying friends you can't be screenshotted blocking, and blocking is for content you don't care.
- rsynnott 2y agoSo after naughty ol' Mr Car took over Twitter, but before I stopped using the site (this would probably have been around Oct 22), I started, after never having followed or interacted with him, getting multiple inane tweets from Musk in my feed every day, along with constant suggestions to follow him. So I blocked him (I think he was one of three people in 15 years on the site who I felt the need to block). I assume this is fairly common for Twitter users; can't imagine it's gotten _better_ since.
- rob74 2y agoThe question is, how many of these "candidates" still love him while/after working at one of his companies?
- zwily 2y agoElon has an estimated 110,000+ employees across all his companies. Maybe you can find one and ask?
- SpicyLemonZest 2y agoI know one Twitter guy who was a big Elon fan and loved the energy, right up until he got arbitrarily cut in one of the previous rounds of don't-call-them-layoffs.
- AlexandrB 2y agoI doubt many of them would be honest with you out of fear of legal consequences: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/03/21/elon-musks-spacex-had-ex-employees-sign-illegal-confidentiality-agreements-labor-board-says/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/03/21/elon-mu...
- DonHopkins 2y agoBecause San Jose is the home of Bad Boy Bail Bonds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAY83HIL-Jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAY83HIL-Jg
- greenthrow 2y agoFolks with H1B visas have an undue burden on any attempt to move jobs. Also interviewing is hell for many tech folks who are extremely introverted (myself included in that last part.)
- macintux 2y agoJust getting an interview isn't easy for most in this economy. Or maybe I'm just thoroughly unlikable.
- scheme271 2y agoVery true although anyone on a H1B may have to file a bunch of paperwork since their job location changed. Although I suppose the paperwork is going to be more something that twitter's attorneys need to do.
- rty32 2y agoH1B is nothing compared to those who need to file a new PERM due to work location change. Going to be rough.
- SanjayMehta 2y agoShifting offices is also a way to get rid of staff without having to fire or lay them off.
- Rinzler89 2y agoDidn't he already fire most of the staff there? Who's left to fire?
- lupire 2y agoIncorrect. Shifting office is a layoff (constructive dismissal).
- SanjayMehta 2y agoFirst time I’ve heard the term, thanks. Does it still apply if the company offers relocation benefits and a reasonable time for (say) school transfers?
- jagermo 2y agoprobably got kicked out since Elon did not want to pay rent. Maybe the locks got changed.
- andrewinardeer 2y agoWhy would X have gotten kicked out for unpaid rent? The building manager stopped any and all proceedings against X for the two months of alleged unpaid rent.
- vundercind 2y agoJust because you caught up with back payments doesn’t mean the landlord wants you around anymore. Not all delinquencies may have reached the level of lawsuit, either, while still being a problem.
- infecto 2y agoDoubtful narrative. In a time when occupancy is going up you would not want to kick our your anchor. Having a large company like X can help boost the rest of the area.
- vundercind 2y agoThrow in any other factor and it fits. Another tenant already lined up, musk wanting to significantly reduce the space he was leasing (plausible, no?) or what have you. A slow commercial market might be the only reason it took as long as it did. Not a certainty, but a real possibility.
- davedx 2y agoBecause commercial real estate is just booming right now, right? People are fighting for that office space!
- wesleywt 2y agoBecause Twitter doesn't pay rent. IDK?
- resource_waste 2y agoMaybe the building lease was up?
- mrweasel 2y agoThe timeline is just crazy, but from a financial stance it makes sense to leave the more expensive location, if you already have the space else where (ignoring that they didn't pay their rent in San Francisco anyway). I can understand why most wouldn't want to work at Twitter, sorry X, but if you're young with few obligations, I can see people doing it just for the experience of it, at least for a year or two. It has to be an insane ride to be on.
- phendrenad2 2y agoNah, this is VERY common for YC startups (which is the size of X I guess now)
- TheAdamist 2y agoThats generally the point with sudden disruptive moves - high attrition. Reduce the headcount without having to be in the news for layoffs.
- llamaimperative 2y agoOr the company is just led by a highly erratic narcissist with a track record (across several companies) of not treating his employees well. Build cult, treat like cult members.
- BirAdam 2y agoI dunno. He seems somewhat consistent. I think people just generally don’t like the things he’s consistent about.
- ulfw 2y agoHe is a consistent liar making fall promises that never come to fruition. I think people just generally don’t like being constantly fooled.
- ben_w 2y ago> making fall promises that never come to fruition That's definitely not consistent; the SpaceX stuff may be always behind his schedule, but it does actually deliver, and even those delays are ahead of the rest of the entire industry planet-wide; and those cars he sells don't have FSD, but they do actually exist and are really electric (the sucess of electric cars over e.g. hydrogen wasn't a given even when he took over).
- llamaimperative 2y agoSpaceX seems mostly operated by Gwynn, and the electric cars existed before Musk ever bought into Tesla. Directionally agreed though, he and his companies have achieved some really remarkable things. Makes the fall from grace, especially in such foreseeable ways (i.e. self-radicalizing on Twitter), all the more disappointing.
- wesleywt 2y agoSince Musk took over Twitter one word we could use to describe the process is "disruptive to employees"
- pound 2y agoSacramento data center shutdown happened without even a few weeks notice (just suddenly, on Christmas eve Saturday)
- smsm42 2y agoThat depends on how many X employees actually live in SF and how many commute each day back and forth from the same South Bay. When I worked in SF, I regularly shared a train with the latter crowd, and there are a lot of them. I'm not saying they all work for X, but I suspect for a lot of people there the move would actually be an improvement.
- slashdave 2y agoDisruptive for employees? Have you been reading about the recent history of this company?
- pie420 2y ago"very good remote work options" You realize Teams is pre-installed on like every windows machine, right? that's literally all you need for remote work. And most people agree that remote works is preferable/more more productive
- rty32 2y agoYou don't say that 2020-2022 proves that remote work definitely is ok for a lot of people and they want it to stay that way. And recently there have been multiple reports showing that more flexible working options help lowering attribution. Well, what a surprise. /s It is clear that CEOs force people back to office mostly to cut headcounts.
- andsoitis 2y ago> that's literally all you need for remote work. Effective remote work is as much, if not more, a social and collaboration problem, as it is a technological problem.