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Flux: Open-source text-to-image model with 12B parameters

683 points by CuriouslyC 2y ago

Noam45 2y ago
I recently heard of FLUX and began reading about this. It's a remarkable technology
NeckBeardPrince 2y ago
I think we have enough stuff out there called flux.
virtualritz 2y ago
I enter an elaborate prompt, press "Sign in to Run", sign in with my GH, get taken back to the previous page and my prompt text has reset to some default with no way to get back what I entered before. Complete and utter UX/first impression fail. I had no desire to actualy try the model after this.
JoeDeanx 2y ago
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CuriouslyC 2y ago
HF page: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs
KennyBlanken 2y ago
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- wavemode 2y ago
  Hmm I was able to try the model myself (generated a handful of images) and didn't log in.
  - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
    It’s a fal login, which is linked/federated with GitHub if you have done that before. It takes zero time to “make an account”.
    - wavemode 2y ago
      I think they may have turned on the gating some time after this was submitted to HackerNews. Earlier this morning I definitely ran the model several times without signing in at all (not via GitHub, not via anything). But now it says "Sign in to run".
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famouswaffles 2y ago
You can try the models on replicate https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs. Result (distilled schnell model) for "Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it." https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/SsPeQRJIkw https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/SsPeQRJIkw
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SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
Wow. I have seen a lot of promises made by diffusion models. This is in a whole different world. I legitimately feel bad for the people still a StabilityAI. The playground testing is really something else! The licensing model isn’t bad, although I would like to see them promise to open up their old closed source models under Apache when they release new API versions. The prompt adherence and the breadth of topics it seems to know without a finetune and without any LORAs, is really amazing.
minimaxir 2y ago
The [schnell] model variant is Apache-licensed and is open sourced on Hugging Face: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell It is very fast and very good at rendering text, and appears to have a text encoder such that the model can handle both text and positioning much better: https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819041076872908894 https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819041076872908894 A fun consequence of better text rendering is that it means text watermarks from its training data appear more clearly: https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819045012166127921 https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819045012166127921
- dheera 2y ago
  Thank you. Their website is super hard to navigate and I can't find a "DOWNLOAD" button.
  - minimaxir 2y ago
    Note that actually running the model without a A100 GPU or better will be tricker than usual given its size (12B parameters, 24GB on disk). There is a PR to that repo for a diffusers implementation, which may run on a cheap L4 GPU w/ enable_model_cpu_offload(): https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/commit/20cfea0b729f7f0ca79fab63201b16ef0b6e8df1 https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/comm...
    - s-macke 2y ago
      Got it running. But it is a special setup. * NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin Dev. Kit with 64 GB shared RAM. * Default configuration for flux-dev. (FP16, 50 steps) * 33GB GPU RAM usage. * 4 minutes 20 seconds per image at around 50 Watt power usage.
    - CuriouslyC 2y ago
      3090 TIs should be able to handle it without much in the way of tricks for a "reasonable" (for the HN crowd) price.
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
Damn this is actually really good.
kennethwolters 2y ago
It is very good at "non-human subjects in photos with shallow focus". Really curious to see what other low-hanging fruits people are finding.
- CuriouslyC 2y ago
  Check out reddit.com/r/stablediffusion, it's been handling everything people have thrown at it so far.
asadm 2y ago
This is actually really good! I fear much better than SD3 even!
PoignardAzur 2y ago
Am I missing something? The beach image they give still fails to follow the prompt in major ways.
- swatcoder 2y ago
  You're not. I'm surprised at their selections because neither the cooking one nor the beach one adhere to the prompt in very well, and that first one only does because it prompt largely avoids much detail altogether. Overall, the announcement gives the sense that it can make pretty pictures but not very precise ones.
  - Jackson__ 2y ago
    Sounds to me like it's an issue with their VLM captions creating very "pretty" but not actually useful captions. Like one of the example image prompts includes this absolute garbage: > Convey compassion and altruism through scene details.
  - astrange 2y ago
    Well, that's nothing new, but it doesn't matter to dedicated users because they don't control it just by typing in text prompts. They use ComfyUI, which is a node editor.
    - ilkke 2y ago
      Does this afford better prompt adherence control in some way?
      - spywaregorilla 2y ago
        No directly. but it encourages iteration on the same seed and then on specific details rather than just trying different prompts on different seeds from scratch over and over
    - fennecbutt 2y ago
      I'd say automatic1111 is more popular. Comfy seems like a rat's nest, unreal shader node flashbacks.
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
> FLUX.1 [dev]: The base model, open-sourced with a non-commercial license ...then it's not open source. At least the others are Apache 2.0 (real open source) and correctly labeled proprietary, respectively.
dinobones 2y ago
I wonder if the key behind the quality of the MidJourney models, and this models, is less about size + architecture and more about the quality of images trained on. It looks like this is the case for LLMs, that the training quality of the data has a significant impact on the output quality of the model, which makes sense. So the real magic is in designing a system to curate that high quality data.
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  No, it’s definitely the size. Tiny LLMs are shit. Stable Diffusion 3’s problem is not that that its training set was wildly different, it’s that it’s just too small (because the one released so far is not the full size). You can get better results with better data, for sure. And better architecture, for sure. But raw size is really important the difference in quality for models, all else held equal, is HUGE and obvious if you play with them.
- BoredPositron 2y ago
  It's the quality of the image text pair not the image alone but midjourney is not a model it's a suite of models that work in conjunction. They have an llm in the front to optimize the user prompts, they use SAM models, controlnet models for poses that are in high demand and so much more. That's why you can't really compare foundation models anymore because there are none.
- pzo 2y ago
  I would agree - midjourney is getting a free labour since many of their generations are not in secret mode (require pro/mega subscription) so prompts and outputs are visible to everyone. Midjourney rewards users to rating those generations. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some bots on their discord that are scraping those data for training their own models.
  - ilkke 2y ago
    Are the prompts of pro users secret to Midjourney?
- CuriouslyC 2y ago
fl0id 2y ago
Mmmh, trying my recent test prompts, still pretty shit. F.e. whereas midjourney or SD do not have a problem to create a pencil sketch, with this model (pro), it always looks more like a black and white photograph or digital illustration or render. It is also like all the others apparently not able to follow instructions on the position of characters. (i.e. X and Y are turned away from each other).
jncfhnb 2y ago
Looks like a very promising model. Hope to see the comfyui community get it going quickly
- lovethevoid 2y ago
  Its already available for comfyui
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    It’ll need time for the goodies beyond the base model though I would guess
    - lovethevoid 2y ago
      Works great as is right now, I can see some workflows being affected or having to wait for an update, but even those can do with some temporary workarounds (like having to load another model for later inpainting steps). So if you're wanting to experiment and have a 24GB card, have at it!
      - jncfhnb 2y ago
        Yeah I mean like controlnet / ipadapter / animateddiff / in painting stuff I don’t feel like base models are super useful. Most real use cases depend on being able to iterate on consistent outputs imo. I have had a very bad experience trying to use other models to modify images but I mostly do anime shit and maybe styles are less consistently embedded into language for those models
mikejulietbravo 2y ago
What's the tl;dr on a difference from this to SD?
- minimaxir 2y ago
  tl;dr better quality even with the least powerful model and can be much faster
treesciencebot 2y ago
You can try the models here: (available without sign-in) FLUX.1 [schnell] (Apache 2.0, open weights, step distilled): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/schnell https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/schnell (requires sign-in) FLUX.1 [dev] (non-commercial, open weights, guidance distilled): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev FLUX.1 [pro] (closed source [only available thru APIs], SOTA, raw): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux-pro https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux-pro
- layer8 2y ago
  Requires sign-in with a GitHub account, unfortunately.
  - wavemode 2y ago
    I think they may have turned on the gating some time after this was submitted to HackerNews. Earlier this morning I definitely ran the model several times without signing in at all (not via GitHub, not via anything). But now it says "Sign in to run".
    - treesciencebot 2y ago
      i just updated the links to clarify which models require sign-in and which doesn't!
- RobotToaster 2y ago
  What is the difference between schnell and dev? Just the kind of distillation?
  - ilkke 2y ago
    Also worth mentioning schnell is a 4-step model, so comparable to SD lightning in that regard
  - schleck8 2y ago
    Schnell is definitely worse in quality, although still impressive (it gets text right). Dev is the really good one that arguably outperforms the new Midjourney 6.1
zarmin 2y ago
WILD Photo of teen girl in a ski mask making an origami swan in a barn. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "EAT DRUGS" in yellow font. In the background there is a framed photo of obama https://i.imgur.com/RifcWZc.png https://i.imgur.com/RifcWZc.png Donald Trump on the cover of "Leopards Ate My Face" magazine https://i.imgur.com/6HdBJkr.png https://i.imgur.com/6HdBJkr.png
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  DT coverlines are very authentic. Garbled just like the real thing.
- viraptor 2y ago
  It got confused with the mask and origami unfortunately.
smusamashah 2y ago
Tested it using prompts from ideogram (login walled) which has great prompt adherence. Flux generated very very good images. I have been playing with ideogram but i don't want their filters and want to have a similar powerful system running locally. If this runs locally, this is very very close to that in terms of both image quality and prompt adherence. I did fail at writing text clearly when text was a bit complicated. This ideogram image's prompt for example https://ideogram.ai/g/GUw6Vo-tQ8eRWp9x2HONdA/0 https://ideogram.ai/g/GUw6Vo-tQ8eRWp9x2HONdA/0 > A captivating and artistic illustration of four distinct creative quarters, each representing a unique aspect of creativity. In the top left, a writer with a quill and inkpot is depicted, showcasing their struggle with the text "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 1: WRITER". The scene is comically portrayed, highlighting the writer's creative challenges. In the top right, a figure labeled "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 2: COPY ||PASTER" is accompanied by a humorous comic drawing that satirically demonstrates their approach. In the bottom left, "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 3: THE RETRIER" features a character retrieving items, complete with an entertaining comic illustration. Lastly, in the bottom right, a remixer, identified as "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 4: THE REMI Otherwise, the quality is great. I stopped using stable diffusion long time ago, the tools and tech around it became very messy, its not fun anymore. Been using ideogram for fun but I want something like ideogram that I can run locally without any filters. This is looking perfect so far. This is not ideogram, but its very very good.
- dagaci 2y ago
  If you have the hardware (24GB VRAM plus 32GB) the easiest way to run locally seems to be SwarmUI See: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableSwarmUI/comments/1ei86ar/flux_4_noobs_o_windows/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableSwarmUI/comments/1ei86ar/flux... (SwarmUI is cross platform and runs on macs, and linux)
- ilkke 2y ago
  You can run it locally in ComfyUI. I was able to run it with 12GB of vram and reportedly even 8GB is doable, albeit very slow.
- benreesman 2y ago
  Ideogram handles text really well but I don’t want to be on some weird social network. If this thing can mint memes with captions in it on a single node I guess that’s the weekend gone. Thanks for the useful review.
burkaygur 2y ago
hi friends! burkay from fal.ai here. would like to clarify that the model is NOT built by fal. all credit should go to Black Forest Labs (https://blackforestlabs.ai/ https://blackforestlabs.ai/) which is a new co by the OG stable diffusion team. what we did at fal is take the model and run it on our inference engine optimized to run these kinds of models really really fast. feel free to give it a shot on the playgrounds. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev
- tikkun 2y ago
  > We are excited to introduce Flux I'd suggest re-wording the blog post intro, it reads as if it was created by Fal. Specific phrases to change: > Announcing Flux (from the title) > We are excited to introduce Flux > Flux comes in three powerful variations: This section also comes across as if you created it > We invite you to try Flux for yourself. Reads as if you're the creator
  - burkaygur 2y ago
    Thanks for the feedback! Made some updates.
    - tikkun 2y ago
      Way better, nice
- nextos 2y ago
  The name is a bit unfortunate given that Julia's most popular ML library is called Flux. See: https://fluxml.ai https://fluxml.ai. This library is quite well known, 3rd most starred project in Julia: https://juliapackages.com/packages?sort=stars https://juliapackages.com/packages?sort=stars. It has been around since, at least, 2016: https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/graphs/code-frequency https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/graphs/code-frequency.
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UncleOxidant 2y ago
Other flux ai things: https://fluxml.ai/ https://fluxml.ai/ , https://www.flux.ai https://www.flux.ai
tantalor 2y ago
Seems to do pretty poorly with spatial relationships. "An upside down house" -> regular old house "A horse sitting on a dog" -> horse and dog next to eachother "An inverted Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor" -> yikes https://fal.media/files/koala/zgPYG6SqhD4Y3y_E9MONu.png https://fal.media/files/koala/zgPYG6SqhD4Y3y_E9MONu.png
- minimaxir 2y ago
  It appears the model does have some "sanity" restrictions from whatever its training process is that limits some of the super weird outputs. "A horse sitting on a dog" doesn't work but "A dog sitting on a horse" works perfectly.
- colkassad 2y ago
  Indeed: https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux?share=e7e98018-fd69-45c0-90bd-1bf4eb275ca3 https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux?share=e7e98018-fd69-45c0-9...
- bboygravity 2y ago
  a zebra on top of an elephant worked fine for me
j1mmie 2y ago
I'm really impressed at its ability to output pixel art sprites. Maybe the best general-purpose model I've seen capable of that. In many cases its better than purpose-built models.
- ilkke 2y ago
  Any examples? I wasn't able to get any good results
cwoolfe 2y ago
Hey, great work over at fal.ai to run this on your infrastructure and for building in a free $2 in credits to try before buying. For those thinking of running this at home, I'll save you the trouble. Black Forest Flux did not run easily on my Apple Silicon MacBook at this time. (Please let me know if you have gotten this to run for you on similar hardware.) Specifically, it falls back to using CPU which is very slow. Changing device to 'mps' causes error "BFloat16 is not supported on MPS"
robotnikman 2y ago
This is amazing! I thought it would be a few more years before we would have a such high quality model we could run locally.
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SirMaster 2y ago
I tried: "Moe from The Simpsons, waving" several times. But it only ever drew Lisa from The Simpsons waving.
Havoc 2y ago
Bit annoying signup...Github only...and github account creation is currently broken "Something went wrong". Took two tries and two browsers...
- fernly 2y ago
  I had the same "something went wrong" experience, but on retrying the "sign in to run" button, it was fine and had logged me in. Gave me a credit of 2USD to play with.
seveibar 2y ago
whenever I see a new model I always see if it can do engineering diagrams (e.g. "two square boxes at a distance of 3.5mm"), still no dice on this one. https://x.com/seveibar/status/1819081632575611279 https://x.com/seveibar/status/1819081632575611279 Would love to see an AI company attack engineering diagrams head on, my current hunch is that they just aren't in the training dataset (I'm very tempted to make a synthetic dataset/benchmark)
- lovethevoid 2y ago
  I hope you find manual tagging of diagrams interesting, as that is what you'll be doing a lot of!
- napoleongl 2y ago
  Can’t you get this done via an LLM and have it generate code for mermaid or D2 or something? I’ve been fiddling around with that a bit in order to create flowcharts and datamodels, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen at least one of those languages handle absolute positioning of object.
  - seveibar 2y ago
    it usually isn't accurate. LLMs generally have very little spatial awareness.
- phkahler 2y ago
  >> Would love to see an AI company attack engineering diagrams head on, my current hunch is that they just aren't in the training dataset (I'm very tempted to make a synthetic dataset/benchmark) That seems like a good use for a speech driven assistant that know how to use PC desktop software. Just talk to a CAD program and say what you want. This seems like a long way off but could be very useful.
- zellyn 2y ago
  I have likewise been utterly unable to get it to generate images that look like preliminary rapid pencil sketches. Suggestions by experienced prompters welcome!
smusamashah 2y ago
Holy crap this is amazing. I saw an image with a prompt on reddit and didn't believe it was generated imaged. I thought it must be joke that people are sharing non-generated images in the thread. Reddit message: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1ehh1hx/announcing_flux_the_next_leap_in_texttoimage/lfzhdyb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1ehh1hx/an... Linked image: https://preview.redd.it/dz3djnish2gd1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=015f8af846f4d4f9dbe4d2c61674abbaa073c88e https://preview.redd.it/dz3djnish2gd1.png?width=1024&format=... The prompt: > Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it. Some of the images I generated using schnell model with 8-10 steps using this prompt. https://imgur.com/a/3mM9tKf https://imgur.com/a/3mM9tKf
- codezero 2y ago
  I love the background details. It has HALO as a storefront logo! This model appears to do well with fingers and hands out of the box.
fngjdflmdflg 2y ago
Is the architecture outlined anywhere? Any publications or word on if they will publish something in the future? To be fair to them, they seemed to have launched this company today so I doubt they have a lot of time right now. Or maybe I just missed it?
- minimaxir 2y ago
  You can look at the model config params for diffusers, e.g.: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/commit/9fa8fcc7d1fa795f50d2f4e745f0b4e2454cd6b5 https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/comm...
  - fngjdflmdflg 2y ago
    I don't have anything to compare it to as I'm not that familiar with other diffusion models in the first place. I was kind of hoping to read the key changes they made to the diffusion architecture and how they collected and curated their dataset. I'd assume their are also using LAION but I wonder if they are doing anything to filter out low quality images (separate from what LAION atheistic already does). Or maybe if they have their own dataset.
Oras 2y ago
This is great and unbelievably fast! I noticed a small note saying how much this would cost and how many images you can create for $1. I assume you’re offering this as an API? Would be nice to have pricing page as I didn’t see one on your website.
ZoomerCretin 2y ago
Anyone know why text-to-image models have so many fewer parameters than text models? Are there any large image models (>70b, 400b, etc)?
- Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
  The way someone explained it to me is that text-to-image models are essentially just de-noisers. They train them by taking an image with a label, ie, "cat", and then adding some noise to it, run a training step, add more noise, run another step, and so on until the image is total (or near total) noise and still being told it's a cat. Then, when you want to generate "cat", you start with noise, and it finds a cat in the noise and cancels some of the noise repeatedly. If you're able to watch an image get generated, sometimes you'll even see two cats on top of each other, but one ends up fading away. Turns out, these denoisers don't require that many parameters, and if your resulting image has a few pixels that are just a tiny bit off color, you won't even notice.
- fennecbutt 2y ago
  If a wurd is misspelt then you notis right away. If a pixel is just slightly the wrong shade of green, nobody really cares.
- minimaxir 2y ago
  Diffusion is very efficient encoding/decoding. The only reason that diffusion isn't used for text is because text requires discrete outputs.
  - ZoomerCretin 2y ago
    Thank you for the explanation!
  - astrange 2y ago
    But see: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.15595 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.15595
xmly 2y ago
Nice one. Will it plan to support both text and image to image?
- ilkke 2y ago
  Someone on Reddit did promptless img2img in comfy by passing an image into vae decode and then thru the schnell model for a kind of a refiner, with great results
viraptor 2y ago
Censored a bit, but not completely. I can get occasional boobs out of it, but sometimes it just gives the black output.
- refulgentis 2y ago
  This gives you no info on how the model works. what is being applied is fal's post-inference "is this NSFW?" filter model So your censorship investigation (via boobs) is testing a completely different, unrelated, model.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    It does provide information. Regardless of whether they use a post-inference filter, we now know that the model itself was trained on and can produce NSFW content. Compare this to SD3 which produces a noise pattern if you request naked bodies. (Also you can download the model itself to check the local behaviour without extra filters. Unfortunately I don't have time to do it right now, but I'd love to know)
    - refulgentis 2y ago
      Right, that (the black bars) gives no info on how the model works. Thus, you'd love to "know more". ;) Rest is groping for a reason to make "model is censored [classifier made POST return black image instead of boobs]" something sensical.
Der_Einzige 2y ago
How long until nsfw fine tunes? Don’t pretend like it’s not on all of y’all’s minds, since over half of all the models on Civit.ai are NSFW. That’s what folks in the real world actually do with these models.
mlboss 2y ago
These venture funded startups keep releasing models for free without a business model in sight. I am all for open source but worry it is not sustainable long term.
- djbusby 2y ago
  It's not. These VC firms currently just blasting money+AI at lots of things. Exploring to find what sticks. Expensive discovery.
- wmf 2y ago
  The free models are for practice and advertising. Once they get good they start charging. We've already seen this with Mistral and Stability.
- qball 2y ago
  At this point the only thing an AI startup has to do to get people to spend money on the model is to: -not censor it -not be doing prompt injection It's very easy, which is why no other firm is capable of it.
EternalFury 2y ago
Impressive quality
vunderba 2y ago
Vast majority of comparisons aren't really putting these new models through their paces. The best prompt adherence on the market right now BY FAR is DALL-E 3 but it still falls down on more complicated concepts and obviously is hugely censored - though weirdly significantly less censored if you hit their API directly. I quickly mocked up a few weird/complex prompts and did some side-by-side comparisons with Flux and DALL-E 3. Flux is impressive and significantly performant particularly since both the dev/shnell models have been confirmed by Black Forest to be runnable via ComfyUI. https://mordenstar.com/blog/flux-comparisons https://mordenstar.com/blog/flux-comparisons
- harrisonjackson 2y ago
  Your comparisons are all with the flux shnell model > The fastest image generation model tailored for local development and personal use Versus flux pro or dev models
  - vunderba 2y ago
    I did put them through pro/dev as well just to be safe. The quality changes and you can play with guidance (cranking it all the way to 10) but it doesn't make a significant difference for these prompts from what I could tell. Several iterations and these were the best I got out of schnell, dev and pro respectively for the following prompt: "a fantasy creature with the body of a dragon and a beachball for a head, hybrid, best quality, shadows and lighting, fantasy illustration muted" https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/schnell-dev-pro.jpg https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/schnell-dev-pro.jpg
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throwoutway 2y ago
> Nearby, anthropomorphic fruits play beach volleyball. This is missing from the image. The generated image looks well, but while reading the prompt I was surpised it was missing
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vishalk_3 2y ago
Great product. BTW I am new to this technology can you please tell me what is the parameter given to Model to make it look like real life image ?
- ilkke 2y ago
  Try something like "Photo of...", "as photography" or "photorealistic". You can even specify the camera model and lens/exposure settings. You can find these in metadata of your phone photos for example.
  - vishalk_3 2y ago
    Thanks for the reply buddy. But I am still not able to understand how camera model and lens/exposure settings can be used to make the photo real. Lets, say that you took an image of a flower in a garden and ai has also generated an image of the same flower. When we see these pics side by side we find a lot of difference between them. Origin of my question was "how can we minimize this difference ?". How we can tell the machine that the more the magnitude of a certain parameter the more real it is, not sure if camera settings could help in this case.
astrange 2y ago
Flux-schnell is still incapable of generating "horse riding an astronaut" or "upside-down mini cooper".
- sztanko 2y ago
  I don't think any of them can.
seu 2y ago
So I'm forced to signup and give my email for a supposed trial, only to be immediately told by email that I have a "Low Account Balance - Action Required"? Seriously?
rty32 2y ago
Just came to say I didn't see the "for homeless" part in that LEGO example. The prompt is a bit funny, almost ridiculous.
- julienlafond 2y ago
  Same with the potato example, no "Nearby, anthropomorphic fruits play beach volleyball."
bijutoha 2y ago
I'm really looking forward to exploring its capabilities and seeing how it compares to other models.

683 points by CuriouslyC 2y ago

Noam45 2y ago

I recently heard of FLUX and began reading about this. It's a remarkable technology

NeckBeardPrince 2y ago

I think we have enough stuff out there called flux.

virtualritz 2y ago

I enter an elaborate prompt, press "Sign in to Run", sign in with my GH, get taken back to the previous page and my prompt text has reset to some default with no way to get back what I entered before. Complete and utter UX/first impression fail. I had no desire to actualy try the model after this.

JoeDeanx 2y ago

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CuriouslyC 2y ago

HF page: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs

KennyBlanken 2y ago

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wavemode 2y ago
Hmm I was able to try the model myself (generated a handful of images) and didn't log in.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
  It’s a fal login, which is linked/federated with GitHub if you have done that before. It takes zero time to “make an account”.
  - wavemode 2y ago
    I think they may have turned on the gating some time after this was submitted to HackerNews. Earlier this morning I definitely ran the model several times without signing in at all (not via GitHub, not via anything). But now it says "Sign in to run".
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famouswaffles 2y ago

You can try the models on replicate https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs. Result (distilled schnell model) for "Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it." https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/SsPeQRJIkw https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/SsPeQRJIkw

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SV_BubbleTime 2y ago

Wow. I have seen a lot of promises made by diffusion models. This is in a whole different world. I legitimately feel bad for the people still a StabilityAI. The playground testing is really something else! The licensing model isn’t bad, although I would like to see them promise to open up their old closed source models under Apache when they release new API versions. The prompt adherence and the breadth of topics it seems to know without a finetune and without any LORAs, is really amazing.

minimaxir 2y ago

The [schnell] model variant is Apache-licensed and is open sourced on Hugging Face: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell It is very fast and very good at rendering text, and appears to have a text encoder such that the model can handle both text and positioning much better: https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819041076872908894 https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819041076872908894 A fun consequence of better text rendering is that it means text watermarks from its training data appear more clearly: https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819045012166127921 https://x.com/minimaxir/status/1819045012166127921

dheera 2y ago
Thank you. Their website is super hard to navigate and I can't find a "DOWNLOAD" button.
- minimaxir 2y ago
  Note that actually running the model without a A100 GPU or better will be tricker than usual given its size (12B parameters, 24GB on disk). There is a PR to that repo for a diffusers implementation, which may run on a cheap L4 GPU w/ enable_model_cpu_offload(): https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/commit/20cfea0b729f7f0ca79fab63201b16ef0b6e8df1 https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/comm...
  - s-macke 2y ago
    Got it running. But it is a special setup. * NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin Dev. Kit with 64 GB shared RAM. * Default configuration for flux-dev. (FP16, 50 steps) * 33GB GPU RAM usage. * 4 minutes 20 seconds per image at around 50 Watt power usage.
  - CuriouslyC 2y ago
    3090 TIs should be able to handle it without much in the way of tricks for a "reasonable" (for the HN crowd) price.

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

Damn this is actually really good.

kennethwolters 2y ago

It is very good at "non-human subjects in photos with shallow focus". Really curious to see what other low-hanging fruits people are finding.

CuriouslyC 2y ago
Check out reddit.com/r/stablediffusion, it's been handling everything people have thrown at it so far.

asadm 2y ago

This is actually really good! I fear much better than SD3 even!

PoignardAzur 2y ago

Am I missing something? The beach image they give still fails to follow the prompt in major ways.

swatcoder 2y ago
You're not. I'm surprised at their selections because neither the cooking one nor the beach one adhere to the prompt in very well, and that first one only does because it prompt largely avoids much detail altogether. Overall, the announcement gives the sense that it can make pretty pictures but not very precise ones.
- Jackson__ 2y ago
  Sounds to me like it's an issue with their VLM captions creating very "pretty" but not actually useful captions. Like one of the example image prompts includes this absolute garbage: > Convey compassion and altruism through scene details.
- astrange 2y ago
  Well, that's nothing new, but it doesn't matter to dedicated users because they don't control it just by typing in text prompts. They use ComfyUI, which is a node editor.
  - ilkke 2y ago
    Does this afford better prompt adherence control in some way?
    - spywaregorilla 2y ago
      No directly. but it encourages iteration on the same seed and then on specific details rather than just trying different prompts on different seeds from scratch over and over
  - fennecbutt 2y ago
    I'd say automatic1111 is more popular. Comfy seems like a rat's nest, unreal shader node flashbacks.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

> FLUX.1 [dev]: The base model, open-sourced with a non-commercial license ...then it's not open source. At least the others are Apache 2.0 (real open source) and correctly labeled proprietary, respectively.

dinobones 2y ago

I wonder if the key behind the quality of the MidJourney models, and this models, is less about size + architecture and more about the quality of images trained on. It looks like this is the case for LLMs, that the training quality of the data has a significant impact on the output quality of the model, which makes sense. So the real magic is in designing a system to curate that high quality data.

jncfhnb 2y ago
No, it’s definitely the size. Tiny LLMs are shit. Stable Diffusion 3’s problem is not that that its training set was wildly different, it’s that it’s just too small (because the one released so far is not the full size). You can get better results with better data, for sure. And better architecture, for sure. But raw size is really important the difference in quality for models, all else held equal, is HUGE and obvious if you play with them.
BoredPositron 2y ago
It's the quality of the image text pair not the image alone but midjourney is not a model it's a suite of models that work in conjunction. They have an llm in the front to optimize the user prompts, they use SAM models, controlnet models for poses that are in high demand and so much more. That's why you can't really compare foundation models anymore because there are none.
pzo 2y ago
I would agree - midjourney is getting a free labour since many of their generations are not in secret mode (require pro/mega subscription) so prompts and outputs are visible to everyone. Midjourney rewards users to rating those generations. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some bots on their discord that are scraping those data for training their own models.
- ilkke 2y ago
  Are the prompts of pro users secret to Midjourney?
CuriouslyC 2y ago

fl0id 2y ago

Mmmh, trying my recent test prompts, still pretty shit. F.e. whereas midjourney or SD do not have a problem to create a pencil sketch, with this model (pro), it always looks more like a black and white photograph or digital illustration or render. It is also like all the others apparently not able to follow instructions on the position of characters. (i.e. X and Y are turned away from each other).

jncfhnb 2y ago

Looks like a very promising model. Hope to see the comfyui community get it going quickly

lovethevoid 2y ago
Its already available for comfyui
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  It’ll need time for the goodies beyond the base model though I would guess
  - lovethevoid 2y ago
    Works great as is right now, I can see some workflows being affected or having to wait for an update, but even those can do with some temporary workarounds (like having to load another model for later inpainting steps). So if you're wanting to experiment and have a 24GB card, have at it!
    - jncfhnb 2y ago
      Yeah I mean like controlnet / ipadapter / animateddiff / in painting stuff I don’t feel like base models are super useful. Most real use cases depend on being able to iterate on consistent outputs imo. I have had a very bad experience trying to use other models to modify images but I mostly do anime shit and maybe styles are less consistently embedded into language for those models

mikejulietbravo 2y ago

What's the tl;dr on a difference from this to SD?

minimaxir 2y ago
tl;dr better quality even with the least powerful model and can be much faster

treesciencebot 2y ago

You can try the models here: (available without sign-in) FLUX.1 [schnell] (Apache 2.0, open weights, step distilled): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/schnell https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/schnell (requires sign-in) FLUX.1 [dev] (non-commercial, open weights, guidance distilled): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev FLUX.1 [pro] (closed source [only available thru APIs], SOTA, raw): https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux-pro https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux-pro

layer8 2y ago
Requires sign-in with a GitHub account, unfortunately.
- wavemode 2y ago
  I think they may have turned on the gating some time after this was submitted to HackerNews. Earlier this morning I definitely ran the model several times without signing in at all (not via GitHub, not via anything). But now it says "Sign in to run".
  - treesciencebot 2y ago
    i just updated the links to clarify which models require sign-in and which doesn't!
RobotToaster 2y ago
What is the difference between schnell and dev? Just the kind of distillation?
- ilkke 2y ago
  Also worth mentioning schnell is a 4-step model, so comparable to SD lightning in that regard
- schleck8 2y ago
  Schnell is definitely worse in quality, although still impressive (it gets text right). Dev is the really good one that arguably outperforms the new Midjourney 6.1

zarmin 2y ago

WILD Photo of teen girl in a ski mask making an origami swan in a barn. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "EAT DRUGS" in yellow font. In the background there is a framed photo of obama https://i.imgur.com/RifcWZc.png https://i.imgur.com/RifcWZc.png Donald Trump on the cover of "Leopards Ate My Face" magazine https://i.imgur.com/6HdBJkr.png https://i.imgur.com/6HdBJkr.png

kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
DT coverlines are very authentic. Garbled just like the real thing.
viraptor 2y ago
It got confused with the mask and origami unfortunately.

smusamashah 2y ago

Tested it using prompts from ideogram (login walled) which has great prompt adherence. Flux generated very very good images. I have been playing with ideogram but i don't want their filters and want to have a similar powerful system running locally. If this runs locally, this is very very close to that in terms of both image quality and prompt adherence. I did fail at writing text clearly when text was a bit complicated. This ideogram image's prompt for example https://ideogram.ai/g/GUw6Vo-tQ8eRWp9x2HONdA/0 https://ideogram.ai/g/GUw6Vo-tQ8eRWp9x2HONdA/0 > A captivating and artistic illustration of four distinct creative quarters, each representing a unique aspect of creativity. In the top left, a writer with a quill and inkpot is depicted, showcasing their struggle with the text "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 1: WRITER". The scene is comically portrayed, highlighting the writer's creative challenges. In the top right, a figure labeled "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 2: COPY ||PASTER" is accompanied by a humorous comic drawing that satirically demonstrates their approach. In the bottom left, "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 3: THE RETRIER" features a character retrieving items, complete with an entertaining comic illustration. Lastly, in the bottom right, a remixer, identified as "THE STRUGGLE IS NOT REAL 4: THE REMI Otherwise, the quality is great. I stopped using stable diffusion long time ago, the tools and tech around it became very messy, its not fun anymore. Been using ideogram for fun but I want something like ideogram that I can run locally without any filters. This is looking perfect so far. This is not ideogram, but its very very good.

dagaci 2y ago
If you have the hardware (24GB VRAM plus 32GB) the easiest way to run locally seems to be SwarmUI See: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableSwarmUI/comments/1ei86ar/flux_4_noobs_o_windows/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableSwarmUI/comments/1ei86ar/flux... (SwarmUI is cross platform and runs on macs, and linux)
ilkke 2y ago
You can run it locally in ComfyUI. I was able to run it with 12GB of vram and reportedly even 8GB is doable, albeit very slow.
benreesman 2y ago
Ideogram handles text really well but I don’t want to be on some weird social network. If this thing can mint memes with captions in it on a single node I guess that’s the weekend gone. Thanks for the useful review.

burkaygur 2y ago

hi friends! burkay from fal.ai here. would like to clarify that the model is NOT built by fal. all credit should go to Black Forest Labs (https://blackforestlabs.ai/ https://blackforestlabs.ai/) which is a new co by the OG stable diffusion team. what we did at fal is take the model and run it on our inference engine optimized to run these kinds of models really really fast. feel free to give it a shot on the playgrounds. https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux/dev

tikkun 2y ago
> We are excited to introduce Flux I'd suggest re-wording the blog post intro, it reads as if it was created by Fal. Specific phrases to change: > Announcing Flux (from the title) > We are excited to introduce Flux > Flux comes in three powerful variations: This section also comes across as if you created it > We invite you to try Flux for yourself. Reads as if you're the creator
- burkaygur 2y ago
  Thanks for the feedback! Made some updates.
  - tikkun 2y ago
    Way better, nice
nextos 2y ago
The name is a bit unfortunate given that Julia's most popular ML library is called Flux. See: https://fluxml.ai https://fluxml.ai. This library is quite well known, 3rd most starred project in Julia: https://juliapackages.com/packages?sort=stars https://juliapackages.com/packages?sort=stars. It has been around since, at least, 2016: https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/graphs/code-frequency https://github.com/FluxML/Flux.jl/graphs/code-frequency.
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UncleOxidant 2y ago

Other flux ai things: https://fluxml.ai/ https://fluxml.ai/ , https://www.flux.ai https://www.flux.ai

tantalor 2y ago

Seems to do pretty poorly with spatial relationships. "An upside down house" -> regular old house "A horse sitting on a dog" -> horse and dog next to eachother "An inverted Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor" -> yikes https://fal.media/files/koala/zgPYG6SqhD4Y3y_E9MONu.png https://fal.media/files/koala/zgPYG6SqhD4Y3y_E9MONu.png

minimaxir 2y ago
It appears the model does have some "sanity" restrictions from whatever its training process is that limits some of the super weird outputs. "A horse sitting on a dog" doesn't work but "A dog sitting on a horse" works perfectly.
colkassad 2y ago
Indeed: https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux?share=e7e98018-fd69-45c0-90bd-1bf4eb275ca3 https://fal.ai/models/fal-ai/flux?share=e7e98018-fd69-45c0-9...
bboygravity 2y ago
a zebra on top of an elephant worked fine for me

j1mmie 2y ago

I'm really impressed at its ability to output pixel art sprites. Maybe the best general-purpose model I've seen capable of that. In many cases its better than purpose-built models.

ilkke 2y ago
Any examples? I wasn't able to get any good results

cwoolfe 2y ago

Hey, great work over at fal.ai to run this on your infrastructure and for building in a free $2 in credits to try before buying. For those thinking of running this at home, I'll save you the trouble. Black Forest Flux did not run easily on my Apple Silicon MacBook at this time. (Please let me know if you have gotten this to run for you on similar hardware.) Specifically, it falls back to using CPU which is very slow. Changing device to 'mps' causes error "BFloat16 is not supported on MPS"

robotnikman 2y ago

This is amazing! I thought it would be a few more years before we would have a such high quality model we could run locally.

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SirMaster 2y ago

I tried: "Moe from The Simpsons, waving" several times. But it only ever drew Lisa from The Simpsons waving.

Havoc 2y ago

Bit annoying signup...Github only...and github account creation is currently broken "Something went wrong". Took two tries and two browsers...

fernly 2y ago
I had the same "something went wrong" experience, but on retrying the "sign in to run" button, it was fine and had logged me in. Gave me a credit of 2USD to play with.

seveibar 2y ago

whenever I see a new model I always see if it can do engineering diagrams (e.g. "two square boxes at a distance of 3.5mm"), still no dice on this one. https://x.com/seveibar/status/1819081632575611279 https://x.com/seveibar/status/1819081632575611279 Would love to see an AI company attack engineering diagrams head on, my current hunch is that they just aren't in the training dataset (I'm very tempted to make a synthetic dataset/benchmark)

lovethevoid 2y ago
I hope you find manual tagging of diagrams interesting, as that is what you'll be doing a lot of!
napoleongl 2y ago
Can’t you get this done via an LLM and have it generate code for mermaid or D2 or something? I’ve been fiddling around with that a bit in order to create flowcharts and datamodels, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen at least one of those languages handle absolute positioning of object.
- seveibar 2y ago
  it usually isn't accurate. LLMs generally have very little spatial awareness.
phkahler 2y ago
>> Would love to see an AI company attack engineering diagrams head on, my current hunch is that they just aren't in the training dataset (I'm very tempted to make a synthetic dataset/benchmark) That seems like a good use for a speech driven assistant that know how to use PC desktop software. Just talk to a CAD program and say what you want. This seems like a long way off but could be very useful.
zellyn 2y ago
I have likewise been utterly unable to get it to generate images that look like preliminary rapid pencil sketches. Suggestions by experienced prompters welcome!

smusamashah 2y ago

Holy crap this is amazing. I saw an image with a prompt on reddit and didn't believe it was generated imaged. I thought it must be joke that people are sharing non-generated images in the thread. Reddit message: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1ehh1hx/announcing_flux_the_next_leap_in_texttoimage/lfzhdyb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1ehh1hx/an... Linked image: https://preview.redd.it/dz3djnish2gd1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=015f8af846f4d4f9dbe4d2c61674abbaa073c88e https://preview.redd.it/dz3djnish2gd1.png?width=1024&format=... The prompt: > Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it. Some of the images I generated using schnell model with 8-10 steps using this prompt. https://imgur.com/a/3mM9tKf https://imgur.com/a/3mM9tKf

codezero 2y ago
I love the background details. It has HALO as a storefront logo! This model appears to do well with fingers and hands out of the box.

fngjdflmdflg 2y ago

Is the architecture outlined anywhere? Any publications or word on if they will publish something in the future? To be fair to them, they seemed to have launched this company today so I doubt they have a lot of time right now. Or maybe I just missed it?

minimaxir 2y ago
You can look at the model config params for diffusers, e.g.: https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/commit/9fa8fcc7d1fa795f50d2f4e745f0b4e2454cd6b5 https://huggingface.co/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell/comm...
- fngjdflmdflg 2y ago
  I don't have anything to compare it to as I'm not that familiar with other diffusion models in the first place. I was kind of hoping to read the key changes they made to the diffusion architecture and how they collected and curated their dataset. I'd assume their are also using LAION but I wonder if they are doing anything to filter out low quality images (separate from what LAION atheistic already does). Or maybe if they have their own dataset.

Oras 2y ago

This is great and unbelievably fast! I noticed a small note saying how much this would cost and how many images you can create for $1. I assume you’re offering this as an API? Would be nice to have pricing page as I didn’t see one on your website.

ZoomerCretin 2y ago

Anyone know why text-to-image models have so many fewer parameters than text models? Are there any large image models (>70b, 400b, etc)?

Sohcahtoa82 2y ago
The way someone explained it to me is that text-to-image models are essentially just de-noisers. They train them by taking an image with a label, ie, "cat", and then adding some noise to it, run a training step, add more noise, run another step, and so on until the image is total (or near total) noise and still being told it's a cat. Then, when you want to generate "cat", you start with noise, and it finds a cat in the noise and cancels some of the noise repeatedly. If you're able to watch an image get generated, sometimes you'll even see two cats on top of each other, but one ends up fading away. Turns out, these denoisers don't require that many parameters, and if your resulting image has a few pixels that are just a tiny bit off color, you won't even notice.
fennecbutt 2y ago
If a wurd is misspelt then you notis right away. If a pixel is just slightly the wrong shade of green, nobody really cares.
minimaxir 2y ago
Diffusion is very efficient encoding/decoding. The only reason that diffusion isn't used for text is because text requires discrete outputs.
- ZoomerCretin 2y ago
  Thank you for the explanation!
- astrange 2y ago
  But see: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.15595 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.15595

xmly 2y ago

Nice one. Will it plan to support both text and image to image?

ilkke 2y ago
Someone on Reddit did promptless img2img in comfy by passing an image into vae decode and then thru the schnell model for a kind of a refiner, with great results

viraptor 2y ago

Censored a bit, but not completely. I can get occasional boobs out of it, but sometimes it just gives the black output.

refulgentis 2y ago
This gives you no info on how the model works. what is being applied is fal's post-inference "is this NSFW?" filter model So your censorship investigation (via boobs) is testing a completely different, unrelated, model.
- viraptor 2y ago
  It does provide information. Regardless of whether they use a post-inference filter, we now know that the model itself was trained on and can produce NSFW content. Compare this to SD3 which produces a noise pattern if you request naked bodies. (Also you can download the model itself to check the local behaviour without extra filters. Unfortunately I don't have time to do it right now, but I'd love to know)
  - refulgentis 2y ago
    Right, that (the black bars) gives no info on how the model works. Thus, you'd love to "know more". ;) Rest is groping for a reason to make "model is censored [classifier made POST return black image instead of boobs]" something sensical.

Der_Einzige 2y ago

How long until nsfw fine tunes? Don’t pretend like it’s not on all of y’all’s minds, since over half of all the models on Civit.ai are NSFW. That’s what folks in the real world actually do with these models.

mlboss 2y ago

These venture funded startups keep releasing models for free without a business model in sight. I am all for open source but worry it is not sustainable long term.

djbusby 2y ago
It's not. These VC firms currently just blasting money+AI at lots of things. Exploring to find what sticks. Expensive discovery.
wmf 2y ago
The free models are for practice and advertising. Once they get good they start charging. We've already seen this with Mistral and Stability.
qball 2y ago
At this point the only thing an AI startup has to do to get people to spend money on the model is to: -not censor it -not be doing prompt injection It's very easy, which is why no other firm is capable of it.

EternalFury 2y ago

Impressive quality

vunderba 2y ago

Vast majority of comparisons aren't really putting these new models through their paces. The best prompt adherence on the market right now BY FAR is DALL-E 3 but it still falls down on more complicated concepts and obviously is hugely censored - though weirdly significantly less censored if you hit their API directly. I quickly mocked up a few weird/complex prompts and did some side-by-side comparisons with Flux and DALL-E 3. Flux is impressive and significantly performant particularly since both the dev/shnell models have been confirmed by Black Forest to be runnable via ComfyUI. https://mordenstar.com/blog/flux-comparisons https://mordenstar.com/blog/flux-comparisons

harrisonjackson 2y ago
Your comparisons are all with the flux shnell model > The fastest image generation model tailored for local development and personal use Versus flux pro or dev models
- vunderba 2y ago
  I did put them through pro/dev as well just to be safe. The quality changes and you can play with guidance (cranking it all the way to 10) but it doesn't make a significant difference for these prompts from what I could tell. Several iterations and these were the best I got out of schnell, dev and pro respectively for the following prompt: "a fantasy creature with the body of a dragon and a beachball for a head, hybrid, best quality, shadows and lighting, fantasy illustration muted" https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/schnell-dev-pro.jpg https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/schnell-dev-pro.jpg

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throwoutway 2y ago

> Nearby, anthropomorphic fruits play beach volleyball. This is missing from the image. The generated image looks well, but while reading the prompt I was surpised it was missing

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vishalk_3 2y ago

Great product. BTW I am new to this technology can you please tell me what is the parameter given to Model to make it look like real life image ?

ilkke 2y ago
Try something like "Photo of...", "as photography" or "photorealistic". You can even specify the camera model and lens/exposure settings. You can find these in metadata of your phone photos for example.
- vishalk_3 2y ago
  Thanks for the reply buddy. But I am still not able to understand how camera model and lens/exposure settings can be used to make the photo real. Lets, say that you took an image of a flower in a garden and ai has also generated an image of the same flower. When we see these pics side by side we find a lot of difference between them. Origin of my question was "how can we minimize this difference ?". How we can tell the machine that the more the magnitude of a certain parameter the more real it is, not sure if camera settings could help in this case.

astrange 2y ago

Flux-schnell is still incapable of generating "horse riding an astronaut" or "upside-down mini cooper".

sztanko 2y ago
I don't think any of them can.

seu 2y ago

So I'm forced to signup and give my email for a supposed trial, only to be immediately told by email that I have a "Low Account Balance - Action Required"? Seriously?

rty32 2y ago

Just came to say I didn't see the "for homeless" part in that LEGO example. The prompt is a bit funny, almost ridiculous.

julienlafond 2y ago
Same with the potato example, no "Nearby, anthropomorphic fruits play beach volleyball."

bijutoha 2y ago

I'm really looking forward to exploring its capabilities and seeing how it compares to other models.