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Google Quantum AI
- anonylizard 3y agoHow is this related to AI in any way? Is it just branded as AI to get some share of that sweet AI money (Probably Google only allows funding new projects if they are AI related at this point)
- kromem 3y agoI thought you were being hyperbolic and that this was maybe related to quantum neural networks or ML in at least some way, but no - you seem to be totally correct that this is about as 'AI' as snake oil health products are 'quantum.'
- tkgally 3y agoI had the same question. The site suggests it is a serious research organization focused on quantum computing—but with no obvious connection to artificial intelligence that I could find. Archived versions of the website [1] mention work on machine learning more prominently, as do some of the linked research publications from a few years back [2]. Perhaps the unit was given the name AI initially but its focus later shifted to quantum computing? Later: A Google blog post from 2021 explains the connection of quantum to AI better than the current website does [3]. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20201210053216/https://quantumai.google/ https://web.archive.org/web/20201210053216/https://quantumai... [2] https://scholar.google.com//citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=7M3eap4AAAAJ&pagesize=100&citation_for_view=7M3eap4AAAAJ:eJXPG6dFmWUC https://scholar.google.com//citations?view_op=view_citation&... [3] https://blog.google/technology/ai/unveiling-our-new-quantum-ai-campus/?t https://blog.google/technology/ai/unveiling-our-new-quantum-...
- takeda 3y agoAdditional Investment
- opdahl 3y agoI asked this exact question to one of the leaders of QuantumAI, and he explained it’s a leftover name from when this started out with an idea by some researcher at Google that is no longer part of the project.
- vtomole 3y agoThis lab does a lot of research in AI. Here are a few examples: 1. Barren plateaus in quantum neural network training landscapes: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07090-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07090-4 2. Power of data in quantum machine learning: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22539-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22539-9 3. Quantum advantage in learning from experiments: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7293 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7293
- seydor 3y agoSince they are doing buzzwords salad, they could go for Google Quantum Blockchain AI VR
- nextworddev 3y agoThink this was launched to support some L8 promo
- eru 3y agoYes, almost reads like classic promotion driven engineering. (Or Promotion Oriented Programming.)
- vinnyvichy 2y agoA cousin of funding driven grant writing (or funding oriented research)
- vletal 3y agoThere is no AI on the whole front page. Right? Where is the AI?
- VHRanger 3y agoYour calling it VR instead of metaverse made Mark Zuckerberg cry
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- codegladiator 3y ago> Error correction is the fundamental requirement for creating a truly useful quantum computer. It enables the scale required to perform complex calculations. A hover tip on "quantum computing". Scale, useful, complex, fundamental, quantum what did i miss ? oh , computer !
- throwup238 3y agoI just looked at the Killed By Google gallery and it's got 295 rows of 3 dead projects per row (except for the first and last rows of 2). That's 883 kills. That is truly impressive! I look forward to welcoming "Quantum AI" to that graveyard.
- gruntled 3y agoMaybe, like Schrodinger’s cat, we can all just avoid looking at Google Quantum AI and it will stay in a superposition of dead and alive.
- Intralexical 3y agoHard to kill that which was never alive.
- shaohua 3y agothis is gold!
- SOVIETIC-BOSS88 3y agoThe goog has no qualms in pulling the trigger, that's for sure. Jacquard by ATAP was a favourite of mine. I was going to say that's the price of innovation, but it has been a while since a new successful product release. Maybe the graveyard's fate is to go down in history like xerox parc (innovative but remembered as a footnote). Quite sad.
- ladzoppelin 3y agoThis is an intimidating contest, are there many groups working on these problems besides the people on their website? I wonder if they put "AI" in the branding to grab the attention of people in quantum about to pivot to LLM's..
- vtomole 3y ago> I wonder if they put "AI" in the branding to grab the attention of people in quantum about to pivot to LLM's.. The Quantum AI lab was founded in 2013, about a decade before LLM's took off. The founder of the lab is researching how quantum can be applied to AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iEEvRfTTEs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iEEvRfTTEs
- szundi 3y agoSome of the qubits on the images are higher than others
- andsoitis 3y agoLLMs have started to show what they will never be able to do, as discussed here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40179232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40179232 Quantum machine learning is postulated to overcoming the issue with LLMs of exhibiting incredible intuition but limited intelligence.
- buildbot 3y agoWhy does Quantum===intuition?
- inopinatus 3y agodiscussed here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198519737 https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198519737
- eru 3y agoTheir quantum theory of the mind ain't exactly accepted by mainstream science, to put it mildly. See also eg https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=2756 https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=2756
- fooker 3y agoThe fact this prize exists is admitting that no one has figured out a use for quantum computers. I have heard this mentioned several times in the last decade or so : "The only thing a quantum computer definitively does better than a classical computer is simulating a quantum computer." Whether this capability is useful is up in the air. Note that in practice, classical computers are going to be better at factoring numbers for the foreseeable future.
- becquerel 3y agoEinstein did not have GPS in mind when he was developing his theories of relativity.
- fooker 3y agoSurvivorship bias. There is a lot more science that has not panned out. I'm not saying quantum computing won't pan out, but if it has to there's some fundamental piece that is missing so far. In contrast this effort is trying to imagine and monetize GPS before relativity is discovered.
- leononame 3y agoThat's not the point. The point is that a lot of discoveries and inventions wouldn't have happened if it weren't for researching just for curiosity's sake. Research results will often be useless for product development or capitalism in general. However, focusing research on achieving specific goals only might actually take you further away from your goals. You can't focus on something you don't know exists, you have to discover it first. Maybe, when we have quantum computers, one nerd makes an accidental discovery that enables us to build a room temperature superconductor, and maybe not. But if we don't let people research freely what they're interested in and only things that will pan out, we're going to lose out on a lot of things.
- fooker 3y agoI agree. I didn't say quantum computing research is useless. My point is that we are not at stage that we can offer a small prize and find monetizable uses for it. Fundamental research requires a lot more funding than this.
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- buildbot 3y agoWith things like these, I like to think how much money went into the development of the random PR assets like the weird progression diagram. Apparently, that money is better spent of these than say, someone on the Python Language Committee, or your entire Python team.
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- bigfudge 3y agoI think your comment is rude, and naive in that it misses the point. The investment here is small relative the the marketing budget, which tells us something about their priorities.
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- pquki4 3y agoI would very much like to know how to make one person spend only one day to set the whole thing up, including setting up a new domain, allocating/pointing to a web server, finding the pictures with the correct resolution and apply modification, creating the illustrations, making sure that "sign in" button at the top actually works, setting the background gradient in such a way that it is complaint with the company design language, designing and implementing "The Qubit Game" [0], designing and implementing the fancy "our quantum journey" interactive page [1], etc, in a company as large as Google. I am really curious who this Superman at Google is, who can do both design work and dev work and creating educational materials, get all things approved and reviewed and shipped within a day, and ensure links don't break to this day. [0] https://quantumai.google/education/thequbitgame https://quantumai.google/education/thequbitgame [1] https://quantumai.google/learn/map https://quantumai.google/learn/map
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- mise_en_place 3y agoThey claim to have 10^2 qubits which is cool but how much energy does it take to keep things cool. I can only think about the massive amount of energy wasted on it.
- foota 3y agoIf your only problem with a quantum computer is the energy required to run it, then you have a very good problem. edit: it might make sense to be worried about the feasibility of cooling it, since I think the infrastructure required for keeping the quantum-y parts of the computer cold is extensive, but the actual energy itself is probably irrelevant.
- tromp 3y agoThe milestones specify number of physical qubits, and error rate of logical qubits. Shouldn't they also specify how many physical qubits are needed to build one logical qubit with the given error rate? Milestone 6 reduces the error rate from 10^-6 to 10^-13 while increasing physical qubits by only 10x. That doesn't work out well if you need 1000x more physical qubits per logical one...
- Hewlberno 3y agoThe lack of knowledge and ignorance of quantum computing in this thread is incredible. Quantum computers do exist. They are extremely useful and do things that digital computers cannot do. Categorically cannot. The cynicism in this thread is crazy
- saagarjha 3y agoOk, how about listing some of the stuff they can do?
- eru 3y agoThere's a few things they can do better in theory. But as far as I know none of the existing quantum computers works well enough to achieve that 'quantum supremacy', yet. So I have no clue what Hewlberno is talking about with their comment.
- brabel 3y agoAs someone who has heard talk about Quantum Computers for over a decade now, and never seen a single actual application, I would be very interested if you could provide examples of where I could make use of them right now for things that I couldn't do with classical computers. If they "do exist" and "are extremely useful" then I believe you have exactly what I am asking in mind?
- knifie_spoonie 3y agoI'd really like to see just one example a useful problem that a quantum computer can solve and which classical computers can't. And I'll qualify that as a real quantum computer which exists in physical form today, not something theoretical in someone's research paper.
- roomey 3y agoI think the problem here is that people are assuming it is just a different type of what we have now, instead of something completely different. So we have a new tech like Blockchain, it takes a few years and gets really "big". We have an AI revolution, ok the research has been ongoing for years but it seems like there has been overnight advancement. I'm sure people are expecting the same with quantum computing, but it's not just a re-use of existing tech (transistors) it is development of brand new tech. It is better to imagine it as research into fusion power generation. It will take a long time, no one is sure just how useful it will be. But saying a research quantum computer can't outperform an existing computer is like saying cern can't outperform a coal fired power plant. Not only two different things, but one of them isn't even designed to generate power.
- somishere 3y agoJust an aside but Google should really stop outsourcing their web builds. The quality is terrible
- smokel 3y agoI fail to see what is so wrong with it. It works on mobile, and it has some actual information. I suppose at least 95% of the internet is worse off. Are you sure it is not a taste issue?
- somishere 3y agoIt works, that's true! It's just not designed or built to a very high standard (and I expect the arbitrators of the internet to build to a very high standard) ... So I'd say it's a quality issue. Massive assumption that it was built by an external team. But I'd hope so :)
- versteegen 3y agoI'm quite taken aback to be viewing a Google website where the 5.8MB images are loading at a crawl, because they're completely unoptimised pngs equal in size to bmps of the same resolution! Oh hey apparently there are some 26MB of mp4s that didn't load at first, they served a 2.4MB "Mobile" mp4 instead, so it's not all bad.
- H8crilA 3y agoQuantum AI running self driving cars in the blockchain cloud, social VR controlled. Experience our agile experience powered with renewable big data. Gamifying the digital transformation of tomorrow!
- ssss11 3y agoDon’t forget the tracking and ads!
- These335 3y agoOf course, how can you possibly raise awareness without an ad campaign!
- tux3 3y agoOkay team, when can we supercharge this?
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- Drakim 3y agoIt's all about finding a balance.
- Wherecombinator 3y agoWe’ll need to circle back
- SomeoneFromCA 3y agoAnd pushing the envelope, while paying close attention to identifying the pain points.
- qiine 3y agocareful with that envelope its all crinkly now !
- constantcrying 3y agoHilarious. Even the connection between AI and Quantum computing is deeply opaque. When computers first began development during WW2, they were a response to immediate demands for particular functionality from many technical areas. Quantum computing seems to go the exact opposite route, first of building up an (admittedly very interesting) technology and then later figuring out if there actually is anything useful to do with it. The connection to AI is particularly interesting, because it seems to be built entirely out of a combination of two buzzwords.
- randohostage 3y agoidk enough physics to say quantum computing is it or not intuitively it seems like understanding matter at a sub atomic level and having a machine that can interact with it seems like a super powerful thing to have. but I think quantum computing is in the same place ML was in the 80s; influential people (mainly Marvin Minsky) said the perceptron and neural nets were a dead end same thing could be happening to quantum computing because of the high expectations
- constantcrying 3y agoSure on some level it is extremely interesting and I don't think there is anything wrong with doing research on it. The real issue is pretending that it is something that in the near future will change the world, while having yet to figure what you actually could do with it. IBM and Google have invested massively because someone there thought that it actually would be useful. But that hasn't happened yet and to be honest it doesn't look like that will change any time soon. Inregards to Neural Networks, they were pretty much a complete dead end until computing power increased enough to make them viable. In that case an external technology had to come along to make it work.
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- Sytten 3y agoIs this the new cheat code to get infinite money from governments? No seriously the amount of cash the our goverments (Canadian here) pumps into projects like this is always annoy me.
- ChrisArchitect 3y agoAnything new here? Last milestone was February 2023: https://blog.google/inside-google/message-ceo/our-progress-toward-quantum-error-correction/ https://blog.google/inside-google/message-ceo/our-progress-t...
- vtomole 3y agoTheir next milestone is to build 1 logical qubit at 10^-6 error rate. That should happen in ~2026 if they are on track. See https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/google_quantum_ai_about.pdf https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/google_quantum_ai_...