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China’s Moon atlas is the most detailed ever made
- herodotus 3y agoA book? A website? If a book, how does one buy it? If a website, what is the link? A search just turns up essentially the article above which seems to be a copy and paste of the news release.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoFrom a phys.org story on the matter, there's a 200MB jpeg. https://dx.doi.org/10.12176/03.99.02797 https://dx.doi.org/10.12176/03.99.02797 Seems to still be in the process of being proofed.
- lqet 3y agoDirect link to the JPEG: https://china.scidb.cn/download?fileId=62b3ceb08e66a93f11a07d66&traceId=8111d7cc-c1ef-41de-8d29-847dd74ec23a https://china.scidb.cn/download?fileId=62b3ceb08e66a93f11a07...
- p0w3n3d 3y agois there a torrent for it? server seems to be overloaded
- nkko 3y agoOoo, printing this for the kids room.
- Brajeshwar 3y agoWatermark all over. Need to wait for the one after they proof-read.
- Figs 3y agoThat looks almost identical to the one from 2022. The only obvious differences that I see (besides "pre-proofs" watermarked all over it) are in the Geologic Time Scale table and the credits on the lower left. The map itself looks the same as far as I can tell.
- nxicvyvy 3y ago[flagged]
- boomboomsubban 3y agoI'll just say, I did thirty seconds of research to find that jpeg. There seems to be much more out there.
- secabeen 3y agoYeah, this article is triggered by the "release" of the multi-page atlas, although there's no obvious way to purchase it. The JPG of the single plate has not been updated since the 2022 release; the pre-print remains the only available copy.
- letmevoteplease 3y agoScaled to 50% (19.2MB): https://files.catbox.moe/egqh3x.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/egqh3x.jpg
- oefrha 3y agoIn addition to the big jpeg linked in the sibling, [1] shows the photo of a pretty hefty tome being published in both Chinese and English. I found some Chinese online retailers carrying the Chinese version for about $400, but I can’t find the English version anywhere. [1] https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/cas_media/202404/t20240422_660730.shtml https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/cas_media/202404/t20240422_6...
- ConsiderCrying 3y ago$400, damn. Although, to be fair, that book does look to be the size of a hefty fantasy trilogy. If the printing quality is up to snuff, it should be a gorgeous and very interesting read.
- ammo1662 3y agoNot sure where did he find it, but I found the two books in taobao, one is about 2500RMB(350USD), the other is 4500RMB(620USD), Chinese version only. As they said, it is "for studying the evolution of the moon, selecting the site for a future lunar research station and utilizing lunar resources".
- lithiumii 3y agoLooks like it's 2 books, Geologic Atlas of the Lunar Globe and Map Quadrangles of the Geologic Atlas of the Moon.
- jimmyed 3y ago[dead]
- keepamovin 3y agoFirst you make maps, then you profit. Normally by extracting some resources or energy from the area. China is following a classic path. The impetus for Artemis becomes more clear! Haha :)
- pjc50 3y agoLunar resource extraction is unlikely to be viable for anything other than building on the moon - ever. The quantities of energy involved are simply too high.
- powerapple 3y agoImagine if we can send garbage to the moon and keep the earth clean, the ship returns with minerals.
- hnbad 3y agoYou can send 50kg of garbage into orbit for $300k with SpaceX. I don't think sending it to the moon would be any more cost efficient (quite the opposite). Plus with the kind of garbage where you might find that cost acceptable (long-term radioactive waste, extreme biohazards) those are the kind of stuff you don't want to have to end up detonating in the air if the rocket malfunctions.
- Zambyte 3y agoWhy would we aim for the moon instead of aiming anywhere but the moon?
- powerapple 3y agoI guess it is where it is close, and I don't really care too much about it. I like Bezos idea of space rather than Musk's: use Moon as a production base or something, let's move the bad stuffs pollution, garbage, nuclear waste) to the moon.
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- swiftcoder 3y agoDoes anyone know if the raw data behind these maps is available? I'd love the actual high-res elevation data for use in a moon simulator
- JKCalhoun 3y agoI started with NASA's "CGI Moon Kit" [1] to do my little voxel-based moon game, Mooncraft2000. Higher-resolution data would have been cool – but at some point the enormity of the data would probably mean I would have to stick to a small area of the Moon lest I fill my little server with tiles, ha ha. I was also trying keep parity more or less between the resolution of the elevation data and image data since those voxels have a color in addition to an elevation. I suppose you could add noise to fake that though. (I did end up using Blender to pre-process the color data and bake in the shadows). [1] https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4720 https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4720
- nekopa 3y agoGreat game BTW!
- zokier 3y agoCNCA data: https://moon.bao.ac.cn/ce5web/moonGisMap.search https://moon.bao.ac.cn/ce5web/moonGisMap.search NASA data: https://imbrium.mit.edu/ https://imbrium.mit.edu/ (https://pgda.gsfc.nasa.gov/products/54 https://pgda.gsfc.nasa.gov/products/54), more generally https://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/dataserv/moon.html https://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/dataserv/moon.html JAXA data: https://darts.isas.jaxa.jp/planet/pdap/selene/index.html.en https://darts.isas.jaxa.jp/planet/pdap/selene/index.html.en
- sans_souse 3y agohttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/The_geologic_map_of_the_Moon_at_1-2.5M_scale.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/The_geol...
- Figs 3y agoThat's the one I mentioned before from 2022. Note the date in the metadata: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_geologic_map_of_the_Moon_at_1-2.5M_scale.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_geologic_map_of_... i.e. 15 June 2022
- JKCalhoun 3y agoBeing in the U.S., I am isolated from China and the zeitgeist of its people - but I'm getting little hints that the Moon may very well be in the forefront. With this "mood", Chinese astronauts on the Moon seems inevitable now. And I don't say that with dread, it's just more of an awakening I am having to a future that I had not thought much about until very recently. I think in fact I look forward to it because I suppose I want a technological rival to also draw the U.S. back to the Moon. I'm not sure why though. My child-brain has never even questioned the validity of pursuing space exploration. But I guess as I get old now and see the Earth itself heading into dangerous territory I can kind of understand the naysayers that may have not been as enthusiastic as I was as a kid about a future that follows a timeline similar to Kubrick's "2001".
- pc86 3y agoImagine how different, and worse, the world would be had explorers not ventured across the sea just to see what was on the other side. We should explore for exploration's sake.
- HideousKojima 3y ago>had explorers not ventured across the sea just to see what was on the other side I mean, they mostly did it to establish trade routes and exploit previously untapped natural resources, not out of a mere spirit of exploration. And even if the explorers themselves did it out of a spirit of exploration, the ones funding their expeditions generally had other motives.
- pc86 3y agoThen let's explore for the riches that could be (are) there? If that's the motivation some people need, so be it. We're undoubtably in a better place as a society now than we were in the 1200s so it stands to reason that exploring the solar system and beyond would stand to put us in a better position come 3200 or 4200 than if we simply languish here.
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- tpl 3y agoHopefully all this moon activity stays peaceful. What a complete failure combat on the moon would represent. Very interested in the Chinese mission to the South Pole of the Moon. Hopefully they find usable water.
- DrNosferatu 3y agoIs there a AVIF copy?
- shrimp_emoji 3y agoDid they scramble the coordinates for national security? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_data_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_d...