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Kinda still wish they’d have made it, or at least shown some pre-production work, just to see what a radical product re-think could look like in this space. Car
by ein0p 3y ago
Kinda still wish they’d have made it, or at least shown some pre-production work, just to see what a radical product re-think could look like in this space. Cars of 2024, even in the premium segment, are nearly uniformly garish and tasteless, with tons of half baked features of marginal utility accreted over the years and never perfected. Apple’s take on the category could have been a master class in product design and attention to detail, if nothing else.
- iwontberude 3y agoMaybe cars are inherently garish and tasteless.
- ein0p 3y agoDoubt it. I think good ones can be made, it’s just that nobody gives a shit, including most of the buyers.
- imoverclocked 3y ago“Good” is subjective. My idea of a good car is something that can get me from A-B, can hold dogs and be cleaned up easily, can tow a few thousand pounds in a pinch, doesn’t get stuck in the steep and muddy hills around my house, doesn’t break the bank, and it would be nice if it didn’t spy on me and have a giant shiny console in my field of view.
- beardicus 3y agoYep. Apple dodged a very uncool bullet here. Now make an e-bike, Tim Apple.
- JoshTko 3y agoThis. Ebike with non disableable airtag built into the frame as the killer feature.
- chrischen 3y agoEbike market is very fragmented in terms of use cases. They’d have to release like 10 models.
- pstuart 3y agojust 3: good, better, best
- phinnaeus 3y agoBike, Bike Pro, Bike Ultra
- nxobject 3y agoInstructions misunderstood, released Bike S Air Pro
- peterleiser 3y agoSlight addition: eBike, eBike Pro, eBike Ultra. Ok, good job folks. I think we got it.
- fhk 3y agoUSB-C?
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- mise_en_place 3y agoYeah, when you’re broke. The average American is struggling to pay for food, an electric car is the last thing on their minds.
- rcpt 3y agoThe average American is not struggling to pay for food.
- Exoristos 3y agoGood point. Above-average earners are also struggling at this point.
- marssaxman 3y agoThe median American may be, however
- xvector 3y agoSo strange to see this Reddit meme make its way to HN. The median American absolutely isn't struggling for food, lmfao.
- marssaxman 3y agoCoincidence, I'm afraid; I am not familiar with such a meme. Merely observing that the median American has a household income only about 75% that of the average American, and therefore spends proportionally more of the household budget on groceries, thus feeling the 25% increase in grocery prices over the last four years rather more keenly. Whether that constitutes "struggle" seems like it must be a personal judgement.
- xvector 3y agoNoticing a price increase isn't "struggling." The median American could double their food budget and would be just fine. Your analysis is all wonky. The % of average income and % increase in food price is completely irrelevant - food is a fixed cost and the median American has many times the cost of food left over in disposable income.
- demondemidi 3y agoThey are! All modern cars look like Transformers toys. With their stupid mean-face grills. Design is awful. I appreciate early cars when people didn't know what they should look like, and were just building all kinds of weird stuff. That awkwardness was charming. Now it's just generational pandering, and my generation is left out (apparently my generation is 1920's-1930's).
- crooked-v 3y ago> mean-face grills I think by 2030 trucks will be about 6 feet of grill and a 6-inch eyeslit to see out of.
- davidw 3y agoI don't really participate in twitter anymore, but back in the day, I had AI design a truck of the future: https://twitter.com/davidnwelton/status/1661577114129416194/photo/1 https://twitter.com/davidnwelton/status/1661577114129416194/... Refining my plans a bit more https://www.threads.net/@davidnwelton/post/C34NEOpLMZ5 https://www.threads.net/@davidnwelton/post/C34NEOpLMZ5
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoFord & GM & Dodge will just release a consumer version of the M1 Abrams so the fantasy lived by these consumes can be fully and finally fulfilled.
- teaearlgraycold 3y agoOne of my hottest takes: cars look dumb. Even the fancy muscle/sports cars. Watch the suspension kick in as a car drives over a speed bump and remember it’s just a box on wheels.
- lawkwok 3y agoI think cars only look good relative to other cars. But as an object themselves, they don’t add to the landscape. Look at all the concept renderings of future apartments or idyllic European countryside’s. There’s always only a few cars or one car. Together, they are an an invasive organism.
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- skullone 3y agoAren't Apple products also uniformly garish and tasteless with tons of half baked features too? Glad we don't have to see what dumb ideas Apple had in store for us in the automotive realm. The m1/m2 are good chips, but macos is stagnant, iPhones have... memojis as their new feature? Apple has good industrial design for devices that fit in the palm of your hand. I truthfully cannot fathom how that could extend to a car, simply makes no sense. Where would they make them?
- willbw 3y agoI don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone accuse anything Apple made of being garish.
- skullone 3y agoThey only have like 2% of the PC/laptop market, so not many people think they're that attractive. I like my M1 MacBook itself, but hate the aluminum chassis. I find it brutally garish, sharp and uncomfortable (hurts to type on, hurts my wrists where they rest on a sharp edge, so it's basically a desktop with an attached keyboard and mouse)
- crazygringo 3y agoIt's fine that you don't like it, but it's not garish. That's just not what the word means. MacBooks are literally the opposite of that: adjective gar· ish | \ ˈger-ish \ Definition 1 : clothed in vivid colors //a garish clown 2 a : excessively or disturbingly vivid //garish colors //garish imagery b : offensively or distressingly bright : GLARING 3 : tastelessly showy : FLASHY //garish neon signs https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/garish https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/garish
- skullone 3y agoApologies then, I understood it to mean tasteless, not necesarrily bright or colorful.
- jupp0r 3y agoImho Teslas feel very much like a car that Apple could have designed. Lots of aspects of the whole experience are fundamentally different than other cars. Maybe I'm not thinking radically enough, but then Jony Ive is pursuing other career options, too.
- dleslie 3y agoTeslas are the Alienware of automobiles. Flashy, ostentatious, and aimed at enthusiasts with more money than taste. Apple would likely have made something that evoked elegance. It would have contrasted with Tesla in the same way a Macbook contrasts with an Alienware.
- myrandomcomment 3y agoThis is a reasonable analogy.
- ppljudge 3y ago+1 good analogy
- xvector 3y agoTesla is the opposite of "flashy and ostentatious," their car designs are boring as are their interiors. I don't know where you could possibly be getting that impression when they make the most milquetoast sedans on the market.
- antiterra 3y agoYeah it’s much closer to if Jony Ive worked at Suzuki or something.
- ein0p 3y agoWith the notable exception of Cybertruck I like to think of them as “conservative AF, but with fewer buttons and knobs”. Sort of like the iPhone. The visual similarity of the onboard computer to iOS design only reinforces the impression.
- refulgentis 3y agoIt's very easy to ship concepts, Detroit does this yearly