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> Similar is happening in the cordless power tool industry. There’s Dewalt and Milwaukee – in no particular order – and then everyone else. this seems to be a

> Similar is happening in the cordless power tool industry. There’s Dewalt and Milwaukee – in no particular order – and then everyone else. this seems to be a very US-centric analysis? if I were to look at Europe I'd say that on the pro market there's Hilti and then everyone else. and the consumer market is very open (Bosch, Ryobi, Makita, Dewalt etc) EDIT: and of course, Parkside, aka the greatest value for money of all time

stcroixx 3y ago
I'm in the US and have used Makita for almost 20 years and been totally satisfied. You wouldn't know they were a distant third place or worse based on availability, breadth of offerings, price, or quality. My concerns are quality and durability, unlike the author who seems more interested in subjective things like 'unwavering commitment to end users' - I don't even know what that really means. Same for his others apparent beefs.
- rob74 3y ago
  Makita are very popular over here in Germany. But their "global" website (https://www.makita.biz https://www.makita.biz) doesn't quite scream "commitment to end users". (C) 2006?! Their German site looks a bit more modern...
  - arcanemachiner 3y ago
    Maybe their end users don't care that the website wasn't made with React and Tailwind.
  - marcosdumay 3y ago
    I'm still at loss what kind of commitment to end users you would expect to see on a web site. You want to see e-commerce? If so, you won't find it on the global site, for obvious reasons.
- bombcar 3y ago
  He goes into details in other posts - Makita is just fine as a tool, but new tools take forever to appear in the USA (if ever) and what they have hasn't changed much over the years, whereas other manufacturers are releasing improved tools pretty regularly.
Freak_NL 3y ago
> EDIT: and of course, Parkside, aka the greatest value for money of all time Well, Lidl's Parkside Performance range at least. The regular Parkside stuff can be hit-or-miss (but always cheap).
slingnow 3y ago
Your analysis seems like a very Europe-centric analysis. Can you please add your opinions on the best tools for sale in Japan? And then Australia next. This may surprise you, but some people are from regions of the world where only a subset of worldwide products are available to them. Those people will then only write about the things generally available in their country.
- namdnay 3y ago
  > Similar is happening in the cordless power tool industry the cordless power tool industry is a global industry, the author even lists german and japanese countries in their "analysis". therefore it doesn't seem amiss to expect a global analysis before saying something like "the industry is moving this way"
orwin 3y ago
Every professional i know in the (french) movie industry mainly use Festool when filming/building on location, outside of studios.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Not Hilti?
  - pandaman 3y ago
    Hilti does not have many tools for lumber construction, specializing in commercial steel and concrete technology. Festool has more woodworking tools though, I'd imagine you use a nail gun/stapler the most when building a movie set and neither firm makes these.
  - orwin 3y ago
    No, everything is fake. Its mostly wood, paint and fabrics, some metal but its often painted aluminum. Planer, drill/screwdriver, sander, jigsaw and staplers (pneumatic staplers/nail gun, as sibling said), are the main tools. You also want to limit dust, and i think that's one of the two main reason why Festool is chosen over other professional woodworking equipment when filming on location, their vacuum cleaner is probably the best (or they were the first to interface it so well with their tools). the second reason is that those tools are easy to store and transport, and their modularity helps too. You can sometime also see overlockers and sewing machines on bigger productions, but those are either paid by the productor, or depends on the worker prefered tools, and you will see a lot of diversity (my father's overlocker brand closed shop in the 90s with the rest french textile industry).
wink 3y ago
Apparently there's blue and green Bosch tools and one is the pro line, as I only recently learned. Not sure if Würth is still around for tools, but we had Hilti and Würth for the most part. But I also inherited an old Oerlikon drill that is probably older than I am...

stcroixx 3y ago

I'm in the US and have used Makita for almost 20 years and been totally satisfied. You wouldn't know they were a distant third place or worse based on availability, breadth of offerings, price, or quality. My concerns are quality and durability, unlike the author who seems more interested in subjective things like 'unwavering commitment to end users' - I don't even know what that really means. Same for his others apparent beefs.

rob74 3y ago
Makita are very popular over here in Germany. But their "global" website (https://www.makita.biz https://www.makita.biz) doesn't quite scream "commitment to end users". (C) 2006?! Their German site looks a bit more modern...
- arcanemachiner 3y ago
  Maybe their end users don't care that the website wasn't made with React and Tailwind.
- marcosdumay 3y ago
  I'm still at loss what kind of commitment to end users you would expect to see on a web site. You want to see e-commerce? If so, you won't find it on the global site, for obvious reasons.
bombcar 3y ago
He goes into details in other posts - Makita is just fine as a tool, but new tools take forever to appear in the USA (if ever) and what they have hasn't changed much over the years, whereas other manufacturers are releasing improved tools pretty regularly.

Freak_NL 3y ago

> EDIT: and of course, Parkside, aka the greatest value for money of all time Well, Lidl's Parkside Performance range at least. The regular Parkside stuff can be hit-or-miss (but always cheap).

slingnow 3y ago

Your analysis seems like a very Europe-centric analysis. Can you please add your opinions on the best tools for sale in Japan? And then Australia next. This may surprise you, but some people are from regions of the world where only a subset of worldwide products are available to them. Those people will then only write about the things generally available in their country.

namdnay 3y ago
> Similar is happening in the cordless power tool industry the cordless power tool industry is a global industry, the author even lists german and japanese countries in their "analysis". therefore it doesn't seem amiss to expect a global analysis before saying something like "the industry is moving this way"

orwin 3y ago

Every professional i know in the (french) movie industry mainly use Festool when filming/building on location, outside of studios.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
Not Hilti?
- pandaman 3y ago
  Hilti does not have many tools for lumber construction, specializing in commercial steel and concrete technology. Festool has more woodworking tools though, I'd imagine you use a nail gun/stapler the most when building a movie set and neither firm makes these.
- orwin 3y ago
  No, everything is fake. Its mostly wood, paint and fabrics, some metal but its often painted aluminum. Planer, drill/screwdriver, sander, jigsaw and staplers (pneumatic staplers/nail gun, as sibling said), are the main tools. You also want to limit dust, and i think that's one of the two main reason why Festool is chosen over other professional woodworking equipment when filming on location, their vacuum cleaner is probably the best (or they were the first to interface it so well with their tools). the second reason is that those tools are easy to store and transport, and their modularity helps too. You can sometime also see overlockers and sewing machines on bigger productions, but those are either paid by the productor, or depends on the worker prefered tools, and you will see a lot of diversity (my father's overlocker brand closed shop in the 90s with the rest french textile industry).

wink 3y ago

Apparently there's blue and green Bosch tools and one is the pro line, as I only recently learned. Not sure if Würth is still around for tools, but we had Hilti and Würth for the most part. But I also inherited an old Oerlikon drill that is probably older than I am...