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It's very cool, but the guy answer sounds so corporaty that the only thing I hear is: patent, proprietary platforms, restricted use cases, we'll make lots of mo
by BiteCode_dev 3y ago
It's very cool, but the guy answer sounds so corporaty that the only thing I hear is: patent, proprietary platforms, restricted use cases, we'll make lots of money and sue anybody even drawing it. Have fun! We mandate it!
- steve1977 3y agoSo, a typical Disney product then?
- Towaway69 3y ago[flagged]
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago> Typical capitalistic product? Quite the opposite: patents are artificial monopolies issued by the country - thus the actual opposite of free markets.
- rpmisms 3y agoThey are nice for a reason, though. They're a temporary monopoly in exchange for open access to the patented mechanism. They're far better than copyright, basically.
- felipeko 3y agoYet most patented inventions are pretty obvious on how to copy without the need to look at the patent, same with this case. So we have no benefit of "open access to the mechanism" but with the deleterious effect of the "temporary (1/5 of a long human life) monopoly".
- rpmisms 3y agoWell, the equation there is simple, as evidenced by the fact that many companies still opt for trade secrets instead of patents.
- Towaway69 3y agoAre we speaking of patents or the product made from those patents? Are we speaking of how capitalism enforces permanent growth and profit requirements upon us so that most anything that can be monetised will be monetised. Even feeding the homeless is monetised by the state[1] - in the form of fines. I for one can no longer distinguish between capitalistic greed and profiteering via patents, food, housing, warmth, freedoms, user data, .... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/04/texas-volunteers-fined-feeding-homeless-heat https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/04/texas-volunt...
- orwin 3y agoFree market = liberalism. Capitalism is about owning the means of exchange and production, and how to distribute the generated capital. [edit] which is fine, but rely a bit much on the 'benevolent dictator' trope recently.
- theK 3y agoI think the problems with IP rights startend when the law allowed companies to be treated as persons, from there on it was just downhill. Instead of protecting the inventor we started weaponising IP rights.
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- throwaway-blaze 3y agoYou know the latin root for the word 'corporation' is 'corpus' meaning 'body'. A corporation in English common law is literally a fictitious person created for the purpose of performing business activities independent of its shareholders. The fact that corporations inherit many of the legal abilities of people in our system (including property rights like intellectual property) is a good thing.
- theK 3y ago> The fact that corporations inherit many of the legal abilities of people in our system is a good thing In general I agree with this. But on the specific case of intellectual property I do not.
- elmomle 3y agoIt is worthwhile to distinguish between capitalism and a free market. A free market engenders capitalism, which (with sufficient accumulation of wealth and creeping market and regulatory capture) creates forces that oppose the free market.
- jdksmdbtbdnmsm 3y agoCapitalism is literally defined by the ability to exercise capital to accumulate more of it, which is literally the only way for a monopoly to exist. By definition, capitalism has nothing to do with so-called "free markets".
- jazzyjackson 3y agoAnd "free markets" are the results of showing up with a Navy to help negotiate a trade deal.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoPatents solve the first mover disadvantage in game theory. If you come up with a better solution, please share.
- aleph_minus_one 3y agoI don't claim that I have an easy solution for this problem (at best, I have some fragmentary ideas). I just claim that patents (and copyright) are actually quite the opposite of free markets.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoThey are like stop signs and stop lights. It prevents you from driving like you want, but makes everyone more free to get to where they want to go.
- bigfishrunning 3y agoBetter then the alternative (no product, starvation)
- OfficeChad 3y ago[dead]
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoToday's Disney. If you looked at the video from the studio showing off tech decades ago, you could hear, see and feel the passion.
- CharlesW 3y agoYou can definitely hear, see, and feel the passion of Larry Smoot in the video on that page. Also, Disney has patented their inventions since the beginning: https://patentyogi.com/technology/celebrity-patent-walt-disney-invented-this-multi-plane-camera-to-produce-feature-length-movies/ https://patentyogi.com/technology/celebrity-patent-walt-disn...
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoThat's a good example. Look at the video showing off this exact tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHTlUGN1zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdHTlUGN1zw You feel like you are part of the family while watching this. It's a completely different vibe. Honestly, I feel vaguely threatened by the HoloTile Floor demo tone. The way he answers the question about what's it's going to be used for feels like a parent that doesn't want to reveal something to a child.
- CharlesW 3y ago> You feel like you are part of the family while watching this. Fair enough! I'd just note that Walt was pioneer of content marketing, and I'm sure that was the goal. (This segment was broadcast in the television series Disneyland (1954–1959) in the episode, "Tricks of Our Trade".) > Honestly, I feel vaguely threatened by the HoloTile Floor demo tone. The way he answers the question about what's it's going to be used for feels like a parent that doesn't want to reveal something to a child. This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68YMEmaF0rs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68YMEmaF0rs Agreed, it's terrible — overscripted, artificial, inauthentic — and a failed simulacrum of what Walt's Disney did above. The only honest part is 2:15-3:00, marred only by the terrible reading of the pretend guest.
- walterclifford 3y ago
- bongodongobob 3y agoYeah what a piece of shit for inventing something completely new and novel and wanting to make money off of it. He should create a bullshit AI startup instead.
- jimmydddd 3y agoBest comment! He's almost as bad as that jerk who was paying for surgeries to cure people's blindness. :-)
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoValve makes plenty of money out of a proprietary platform, and still manages to be the good guys. It's possible. But disney has lost the friendly vibes for a long time. They still got talent, and that's not nothing.
- endisneigh 3y agoWould you prefer if this didn’t exist at all, like before this things creation?
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoNo, hence the "this is cool". I just have the reflex of clinching my butthole now every time I hear that kind of speech. It's not the speech of the people that invented the machines, it's a speech written by the lawyers, sellers and executives. Even Nintendo, which is one of the worst offender in obsessive legal actions manage to actually have creators sharing their vision in their voices about their games. This video is the opposite of that.
- makk 3y agoThis feels shortsighted. The patent holder gets exclusive rights for a limited amount of time in exchange for publishing how the thing works. Eventually, and not long from now, everyone can make use of it without restriction. And maybe after reading how they do it someone has a better idea.
- thfuran 3y ago>and not long from now That's not quite how I'd describe the terms of patents
- dylan604 3y agoEspecially with Disney. They'll figure out how to redraw it and extend the patents for another 75 years. (of course I understand the diff between copyright & patent)
- luke-stanley 3y agoConsidering how Disney extended copyright law for so long, I can't blame the person you're replying to for suggesting it.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoWhile I'm not a fan of patents in general, it's more about how you manage your IP that matters. And honestly, this videos feels like they show it off because they have to, but have so many restrictions to do so that they must weight every single word. It doesn't look like they want us to have fun with it. It looks like it's something they hope to sell us. If I enter a restaurant, I know they want to sell me food, but I want to think about the food, not the bill. And I appreciate a passionate chef.
- dylan604 3y agoThey won't sell very many of them if people are not having fun with it. That's such a twisted bit of logic on your part. They don't have an actual retail type product, so it's just a tech demo for now. But it's Disney, so once there is a reatail product, you think their PR department will be showing people not having fun with it?