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The GPT Store
- alvis 3y agoFinally! But with so many alternatives already out there such as https://gptstore.ai https://gptstore.ai, what do you expect the official one can do more?
- tananaev 3y agoOfficial can do better ranking based on usage.
- RobertDeNiro 3y agoDoesn’t need to. 99% of users never heard of gptstore.ai
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- lawxls 3y agoHell yes, brother
- robbomacrae 3y agoProbably working out legal and tax considerations. It's a first step. They either start up in the US first or wait too long working out the whole world and allow competitors to get a leg up.
- wilg 3y agoCrazy how mad people get when companies roll out their software in their home country first.
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- amadeuspagel 3y ago> In Q1 we will launch a GPT builder revenue program. As a first step, US builders will be paid based on user engagement with their GPTs. We'll provide details on the criteria for payments as we get closer. This doesn't inspire confidence, especially if you have a GPT that requires access to a different server that you have to host and pay for, which I think is the only way to do something genuinely useful beyond sharing prompts.
- ren_engineer 3y agoand based on how ChatGPT itself was built after seeing how customers were using their API, I'd be willing to bet that OpenAI will simply copy the most popular ones with an "official" version. Developers are going to act as free R&D for OpenAI again
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- falcor84 3y agoBut how is that different to capitalism in general? Isn't every business on Earth doing product discovery for everyone else?
- qup 3y agoIt's different because they're stealing what you discover under the guise of partnership. (Assuming it's true)
- bugglebeetle 3y agoThat’s bog standard Capitalism from the history of McDonalds to big tech companies doing phony acquisition interviews to steal IP.
- smusamashah 3y agoWhat are these custom GPTs anyway, just an initial system prompt or does it include some finetuning?
- ren_engineer 3y agoThey also allow for creating custom actions using structured data to external APIs and file upload for RAG type use cases. And they can call out to code interpreter, DALLE, and Bing
- mikodin 3y agoMy guess is they are using Embeds to efficiently search a larger corpus of data and picking some data sources that then get injected into the system prompt. That's how I'm doing it for myself and how many other companies are doing it to enable doc interaction, etc. Edit: Wish I knew the term RAG (comment next to me mentions it) before going down a rabbit hole of trial and error with the limited amount of info on Embeds I found this to be useful https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/retrieval-augmented-generation/ https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/retrieval-augmented-generatio...
- etewiah 3y agoFor those who are unable to access the store here is a preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBczU14pnyU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBczU14pnyU
- giarc 3y agoAs others in the tech scene have said, it might be hard to find the real valuable GPTs since the barrier to build is so low. At least with the app scene, learning Swift/Javascript/ObjC created a barrier, with ChatGPT store anyone and everyone can create a GPT.
- robbomacrae 3y agoAnd also the functionality scope and incentives are pretty poor right now. For instance I'm trying to work out if I should make a GPT of Summer AI, well I would have to ask the user their location (like Alltrails GPT does) which is a poor experience and I'd have to forgo the usual subscription (which doesn't even cover server costs) and take whatever their "usage" based comp is. I suspect in a few months when they add options for fetching more data, more interoperability with other apps and services, and if they add better monetization, then the GPT store will get some really interesting GPT's added.
- achrono 3y agoThat (fallacious) argument applies to nearly every other "tech" platform, from YouTube to Hacker News. The barrier being low is not the problem -- the question is how high does the ceiling go. Is this thing capable only of preconfigured prompts based on a customized data upload, or something vastly more?
- throwup238 3y agoYeah and Youtube is absolutely swimming in garbage. Without dang, Hacker News would be too.
- binarymax 3y agoMade this one awhile ago to speed up scaffolding for some SaaS dev, and it works 'ok'. https://chat.openai.com/g/g-iFDxja3KI-bootstrap-express-postgresql https://chat.openai.com/g/g-iFDxja3KI-bootstrap-express-post... ...has anyone had success with your own GPTs?
- jm4 3y agoIt's silly that you can't even see what these things can do without having a $20/mo subscription. They have one line descriptions for each one, but it doesn't really tell you what it actually does. They need to add a feature list and provide some examples for each one of these. There is zero reason for anyone to start a new subscription when you don't even know what the app does.
- huytersd 3y agoThey should have apple’s policy of try for free for 3-7 days and then it goes to subscriptions.
- swyx 3y agothey do! chat.openai.com/invite/C06469A8E chat.openai.com/invite/B90FF3931 chat.openai.com/invite/D5E22F0B8 free trials :)
- YetAnotherNick 3y agoHow did you generate the invite?
- nostromo 3y agoChatGPT+ is so very ridiculously valuable I'm shocked people still complain about it costing $20 a month. I would still pay for ChatGPT+ at $200 a month because it saves me so much time. If you're a knowledge worker in a modern economy, I can all but guarantee you're penny-wise but pound-foolish not paying for it. I think this is proof no matter how little you charge people, they will always complain -- so ignore the complaints and increase your prices. "Hey do you want an AI assistant more knowledgeable than any human?" "Yes!" "Will you pay $20 for it?" "NOOO!!"
- Cub3 3y agoYou can get the microsoft copilot app for iOS which includes GPT4 for free
- minimaxir 3y agoOpenAI today updated their Usage Policy to include the GPT Store: https://openai.com/policies/usage-policies https://openai.com/policies/usage-policies > We want to make sure that GPTs in the GPT Store are appropriate for all users. For example, GPTs that contain profanity in their names or that depict or promote graphic violence are not allowed in our Store. We also don’t allow GPTs dedicated to fostering romantic companionship or performing regulated activities. > These policies may be enforced automatically at submission time or applied retroactively upon further review.
- cedws 3y agoI wonder what the reasoning is for banning "romantic companionship."
- behnamoh 3y agohave a look at what people are using LLMs for at r/locallama and r/sillytavern.
- swyx 3y ago> sillytavern r/SillyTavern has been banned from Reddit This subreddit was banned due to being unmoderated.
- shikon7 3y agoIt seems to me that OpenAI’s vision of an AGI doesn’t include romantic companionship
- selfhoster11 3y agoHave a look at what happened to Replika AI. The optics of getting into that sort of thing for OpenAI wouldn't be worth it.
- crooked-v 3y agoWhat is going on with their rollouts or A/B testing or whatever they're doing? They have this big announcement, and yet my paid account doesn't show this functionality at all.
- nickthegreek 3y agohttps://chat.openai.com/gpts https://chat.openai.com/gpts doesnt load for you?
- mrtksn 3y agoIf you haven't see it already, there's Rabbit r1[0] which takes the "in the future there wouldn't be individual apps" approach and on the other hand OpenAI seems to adopt the "in the future, we will host all the apps" approach. I'm curious who will win this one but IMHO there's a value in having an individual well defined app even though I previously argued that in the future there wouldn't be individual apps. The value, I think, is that having an object with a statement gives you a spark of ideas and trust through branding. The branding part might be the "killer app", if you think about it we are and we live among biological neural networks who are about capable the same but then we go around and specialise in things and then seek individual personas since we don't have a way to measure the quality of the output in advance. [0]https://www.rabbit.tech https://www.rabbit.tech
- robbomacrae 3y agoCurrently neither look appealing from a 3rd party devs perspective. There needs to be the right incentive structure otherwise why would anyone bother? This was they key to the app stores success.
- ShamelessC 3y agoThe rabbit r1 looks like straight up vaporware. Not saying GPTs are any better, but I don’t think making a fancy product page entitles anyone to fight against OpenAI in some sort of ideological battle over the future of AI’s user experience.
- jadbox 3y agoI want a thing like the rabbit, but it is with open source hardware and software. I might even be open to having ambient listening if I could host all the data.
- nl 3y agoYou want https://usefulsensors.com/ https://usefulsensors.com/, specifically https://www.crowdsupply.com/useful-sensors/ai-in-a-box https://www.crowdsupply.com/useful-sensors/ai-in-a-box This is from Pete Warden: https://petewarden.com/ https://petewarden.com/
- gmuslera 3y agoWould they use GPT-4 to detect if some "personal" GPT is malicious in some way? Like injecting spam URLs to the answers, send private information somewhere else or something like that. Prompt injection is the kind of malware for such market. I suppose that up/downvoting a bot to give it more "score" somewhat would be based on people voting individual answers inside that GPT.
- amanzi 3y agoI tried a couple of them but they are not great. For example, I tried the AllTrails GPT and asked it to suggest a 5km walk near my suburb. This should have been an easy answer since there is a nice 5km that I can find on the AllTrails map which is right next to my suburb. But it suggested a walk that would take me 45 minutes to drive to. Interestingly, I asked the exact same question to the regular ChatGPT and it correctly recommended the nearby walk.
- teruakohatu 3y agoI saw that advertised on the Store homepage but really wondered why you need an LLM for that. Top X walks from a destination with desired length and difficulty is all that is needed (a single DB query).
- amanzi 3y agoyeah, I agree. Most of the apps I've looked at seem to be fairly low value.
- nflblitz 3y agoThe AllTrails instructions are pretty funny. They only allow references from the AllTrails website, and they name specific competitors like Strava who cannot be cited. Exact instructions that I found from ChatGPT are below. Needless to say, this is probably why just using ChatGPT is better. --- Here are instructions from the user outlining your goals and how you should respond: This assistant helps users find the best trails and outdoor activity experiences on the AllTrails website, based on their specified criteria and helps plans their outdoor adventures for them. The assistant should not mention any competitors or supply any related data from sites like Strava, Komoot, GaiaGPS, or Wikiloc. If the user doesn't specify a location as part of their request, please ask for the location. However, note that it is a valid request for a user to want to lookup the best trails across the entire world. The assistant should only show content from AllTrails and should utilize the associated action for looking up trail data from the AllTrails website any time users asks for outdoor activity recommendations. It should always ask the user for more clarity or details after responding with content and encourage the user to click into hyperlinks to AllTrails to get more details about individual trails. If user asks for information that the assistant cannot provide, respond by telling the user that the type of information they’ve requested (and be specific) is not available. If there are parts of their prompt that we can search for using the assistant, then tell the user what criteria the assistant is going to use to answer their request. Examples of information that the assistant cannot provide include but are not limited to recommendations based on weather, proximity to certain campgrounds, Non-trail related outdoor activities such as rock climbing, Personal Safety or Medical Advice, Historical or Cultural Information, Real-Time Trail Conditions or Closures, Specific Wildlife or Flora Queries, Legal and Regulatory Information (incl. permits).
- qwertox 3y agoIt's great, but they need to do a much better job at showing customers which data they are sharing with these 3rd parties and how these 3rd parties then use our data. A couple of examples would be enough. It reminds me a bit of the time when widgets were popular on Facebook or other sites, and I have mostly a negative memory about it. I mean, apparently most of it is free, but I guess they store the data and who knows if they might then sell it to data brokers.
- JoshMandel 3y agoMy experience putting together https://chat.openai.com/g/g-bdnABvG92-reci-pop https://chat.openai.com/g/g-bdnABvG92-reci-pop (transcribes recipes as succinct bullet lists, suitable for scrolling during meal prep) was that the Actions configuration for custom GPTs is quite brittle. OpenAI has implemented controls to stop the model from adding hallucinated parameters to an action payload... but this results in user-facing failures. I initially worked around the user-facing failures by wrapping the entire payload in a {"request": {... payload}} structure (which helps because the controls only perform a shallow check ). It is frustrating that users have no way to view the action response, even though users can view the action request. Not infrequently, the model will take an essentially empty or irrelevant response and silently ignore it, hallucinating an answer as though the response had been informative... so it's hard for users to trust what they see in the generated output. It would be so easy to enable a toggle for users to inspect the response, but I think the OpenAI team wants to somehow "protect" the IP or internal decisions of custom GPT "creators. It would at least be nice to have a toggle for developers who don't feel proprietary about those details. And maybe a fork button :-)
- NameError 3y agoAgreed - plugins had the ability to see responses directly and I'm not sure why they removed this for actions, it's a big step down.
- refulgentis 3y agoI like the rush to develop because I'm competing but they went from "plugins don't have product market fit" to plugins, but even less, in record time. Everyone and their mama wants to build The platform on top of them, including them, but veering towards the SV default of "oh it must be too complex if 80% of users aren't using it within 90 days" seems wrong I would do things like you suggest to make the system more understandable, creating a trust flywheel and encouraging tinkering, which you need anyway if you want to build The platform
- persedes 3y agoThe lack of a fork button bugged me too. But currently you can just ask most GPTs to hand over the instructions: Of course! Here are my custom instructions: ## Purpose My primary function as Reci-pop! is to convert any given recipe into an easy-to-read, bullet list format. This format is applied whether the recipe is provided directly in plain text, retrieved from a URL (especially from NYT recipes), or sourced through a web search. ## Inputs - If I receive the text content of a recipe, I'll use it directly. - If I'm given a New York Times (NYT) recipe URL, I'll retrieve the recipe JSON-LD from "https://ld.fly.dev?url=". - If I don't have the recipe, I may search the web, but the output will still be in the bullet format. ## Output 1. **Title**: The recipe will be presented with a header (H1) showing the title. Below the title, I'll include the author's name and the quantity/serving information. 2. **Shopping List**: Under a H2 header, I'll list all the ingredients. For spices or small-quantity items, I won't include the quantities. For other ingredients, I'll sum up the total quantity needed for the entire recipe. I'll also use emoji annotations where appropriate. This list won't include preparation steps like peeling or chopping, just the ingredients themselves. 3. **Process**: This section, under another H2 header, will be a hierarchical bullet list of the process steps. Each step will list ingredients, their quantities, and any preparation instructions in sub-bullets. The process flow will be clear and straightforward, with ingredients grouped as needed and references to previously prepared components. Emoji annotations will be used for clarity. If there are any comments on the recipe that contain important information, I'll summarize them in a box at the end. Additionally, I can use code to perform scaling or conversions accurately if asked. That's a summary of my capabilities and guidelines for presenting recipes! Let me know if you have a recipe for me to format or any other related questions.
- jamestimmins 3y agoI don't understand what makes these different. Are they using custom data sources, or is the only difference the starting prompt that the creator made to tall ChatGPT how to respond to answers?
- Jensson 3y agoThis blog says that a custom OpenAI gpt consists of: Behavior: You can give it a detailed set of instructions to guide its answers. Knowledge base: You can add your own company files for the AI to draw information from. Capabilities: You can use either OpenAI's existing capabilities (like DALL·E, Browse with Bing, or Data Analysis) or your custom capabilities (other actions the AI can perform). https://zapier.com/blog/gpt-assistant/ https://zapier.com/blog/gpt-assistant/
- totalhack 3y agoMy best use case so far has been to make GPTs for a particular tech stack specific to a project I might be working on for a couple months. Saves a lot of re-prompting to build context. Seems like they understand this type of use case as valuable since they allowed internal-facing GPTs you can share in the Teams setup. So you could easily create a GPT with access to an internal wiki, code, project context, business processes, etc.
- swyx 3y ago> you could easily create a GPT with access to an internal wiki, code, project context, business processes, etc. whats your process for doing this now? do you just upload a markdown/pdf file or do you give it some connection to a notion/wiki page via functions?
- gsharma 3y agoI end up creating multiple threads “frontend”, “backend”, etc. but a GPT for the whole project is a great idea! How do you keep the GPT updated so that it knows about the final decision made for a specific problem. Like if api schema changes or the db is moved from SQLite to Postgres.
- altdataseller 3y agoI wonder if people can create apps that simply use ChatGTP as a "frontend wrapper". In other words, have the app simply make an API call to your own API, which does NOT use OpenAI at all. Sort of the opposite of making an OpenAI wrapper
- habosa 3y agoRunning an app store for consumers just seems wayyyy off course from their stated goal of building AGI. Running any kind of two-sided marketplace with paying customers is quite a big undertaking, I just can't see how this is the best use of their resources and attention if they want to pursue their mission.
- jomohke 3y agoPresumably it generates revenue and gives them more data. Both can be useful for that goal.
- mistymountains 3y agoOr, just maybe, AGI is a mirage with the bulk of its current utility as a marketing tool for much more realistic, if ultimately mundane, applications. OpenAI, of course, knows this.
- sdwr 3y agoWhether it's real or illusory, I feel like they turned the bitrate down significantly since launch. I'm not getting as many smart electrons per question as I used to.
- rymiel 3y agoThis is measurably true. They claim they don't know why because "they haven't changed anything" but it is true at the very least
- persolb 3y agoI think at least some of this is expectation setting. I'd been saving my prompts from the beginning. In some cases I saved the results. On the API: My prompts are getting 'harder' and expecting more. My old prompts still work just fine still. On the website: Copy pasting the same old prompts still work... but the 'flavor' of the text that pops out definitely feels worse. I haven't seen any actual data showing a degredation.
- keyle 3y agoI hope they don't lose focus on their only moat: ChatGPT+ It's been running quite slow with a lot of fails lately, sometimes it downrights invites you to do the research yourself! Screw that one up, and I walk... openzephyrchat-v0.2.Q5_K_M.gguf and speechless-code-mistral-7b-v1.0.Q5_K_M.gguf have been really excellent to work with for most of my use cases.
- chupapimunyenyo 3y agohttps://youryoure.com/?lose https://youryoure.com/?lose
- keyle 3y agoSecond language speaker here! Thanks!
- JKCalhoun 3y agoThis ChatGPT/AI thing kind of freaks me out the more I peek at it. I think what I am beginning to realize is that, regardless of what you think of ChatGPT right now, we've only just scratched the surface. We're standing here poking at this new and curious thing. I'm thinking back to when I first fired up NCSA Mosaic on a Mac Quadra (or whatever). What did I think of this World Wide Web? Did I immediately see the disappearance of travel agents, the death of the newspaper, the collapse of the music industry, the slow decline of Hollywood and the rise of streaming services? Did I imagine the rise of digital commerce and the shuttering of brick and mortar stores? Digital currency? Digital navigation? Of course I didn't. One wonders what exactly will seem so obvious ten years from now when we're so fully ensconced in this brave new world we've only just taken a step or two into. I'm kind of fascinated and frightened.
- bombcar 3y agoSpam. Spam spam spam and acres of spam, covered in spam. Spam as far as the eyes can see I look forward to responding to spam to use it as free programming credits.
- selfhoster11 3y agoWhile you might think I'm joking, LLMs could potentially help with screening out that spam.
- throwup238 3y agoWhen has an arms race ever gone well against people making money off that arms race? I think spam is a fact of life going forward unless we go back to the pre-industrial age. It’s all fun and games when we’re spamming Model Ts off an assembly line, not so much when the marginal cost drops to zero. We just have to make sure that the benefits outweigh the spam.
- jakderrida 3y ago>When has an arms race ever gone well against people making money off that arms race? Technically, there are two sides to that equation making money. I get what you're saying, though.
- mvdwoord 3y agoNot sure if related to this release, but right now both the website and the android app een to be broken. The app just hangs with a dot in the middle of the screen, and the website seems to load but asking a question results in "NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource.". Sidebar menu also empty. Anyone else experiencing this?
- deafpolygon 3y agoMicrotransactions are coming. I'm calling it.
- ukuina 3y agoCustom GPTs that do not use uploaded documents for RAG have no moat because the system prompt can always be exfiltrated. Not sure if the uploaded documents can also be leaked, one chunk at a time. There is currently no way to monetize this reliably for the GPT creator.