patcon

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by patcon 5d ago
I think they're pointing to the fact that RLHF means that the intention is from humans and not random. I'm not sure if it's their intent, but I wonder if one could still consider these artifacts as "intentional", bu
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by patcon 7d ago
Deeplinked reply from Prof Vincenzo Mantova[1], who is reviewing results: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49761718 [1] https://eps.leeds.ac.uk/maths/staff/4058/dr-vincenzo-l-manto...
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by patcon 8d ago
Heh, I like this. but it should be pointed out that from the other point of view, software developers were the supernatural beings (dare I say demons), which the sorcery of a good project manager could tame (with more or less success) to
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by patcon 8d ago
I like this thought. Maybe some things are just like astrology, just Schelling points that everyone decided meant something, and simple "heightened awareness" gets scaffolded into it. That heightened awareness is the selective pre
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by patcon 8d ago
Where someone has spent years in the texture of a topic that others only pass momentarily, their ability to increase resolution of their models on that corner of reality and project models forward in time (to imagine), that is the origin of
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by patcon 9d ago
I agree with your premise, but writing things down is not "better" but "different". Oral histories have a strange rapid way of evolving by only preserving structure that matters to many and contributes to fitness of many
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by patcon 10d ago
Heh sorry, I didn't realize I'd grabbed on from so long ago. You're right. But just saying someone who doesn't tow the line with Israel laid a big part of setting out the culture of a whole network, and continues to role
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by patcon 10d ago
I think the metaphor you're looking for is from the "USA as an abusive ex" angle, not a "bitter ex" metaphor that shifts blame to others...
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by patcon 10d ago
I'm sorry, but this comment feels insufferable. I feel so much eye roll from reading it. USA is not "major leagues" by the measures that the rest of the world cares to size itself up by. If there's an apt non-baseball me
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by patcon 10d ago
fwiw HN has some involvement of those interested in speaking hard truths about israeli power dynamics: https://www.timesofisrael.com/snippy-twitter-exchange-expose...
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by patcon 14d ago
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-prev...
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by patcon 15d ago
You've made me realize much of the value is in trying to port tools and methods from one domain into another. It's that when you realize the analogs across domains on either side of a good metaphor, you realize how investigations
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by patcon 15d ago
> I think he found himself in a situation that he could not cope with in a rational manner. This framing is so generous and I'm grateful for it. Thank you. Makes me optimistic about public discourse to see iterative reframings towar
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by patcon 15d ago
Hey, I retract my comment. I'm a little confused by what to think or feel in all this that's going on -- sometimes I feel hopeful, and sometimes anxious. It's not fair to lash out at strangers who I don't know and should
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by patcon 15d ago
> Analogies are like models, some are useful, but they're all wrong. Very much agree. Every abstraction loses something and so is wrong in some sense, but some shave off in clever places, and allow new shortcut paths of thought and
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by patcon 16d ago
Strong agree. It's the finding of symmetries and folds along non-obvious crease lines, but in semantic space of language <3 It's akin to the amino acid interactions in proteins that hold biological matter together, and determin
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by patcon 16d ago
Have some shame? Or if genuinely not able to feel that, at least minimally perform it? As another poster said, hating the player is acceptable, as is self-hate for the things we must do. We're all complex and can't all make the gr
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by patcon 16d ago
Tests? Not being flippant, but that strikes me as the new surface to maintain to get what RN used to offer
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by patcon 16d ago
I assumed they were referring to social engineering tbh. I do think that's the shortest path to doing anything scary. If you prove to someone that they have reason to fear for their life, there's not much they wouldn't be wil
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by patcon 17d ago
Haha I like this complexity. It's also very "meta" and recursive to be having this discussion about the term "friction" itself...! I hope the irony is at least interesting, and you both feel better and/or worse
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by patcon 17d ago
Aw thanks, that means a lot
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by patcon 17d ago
Ah yeah, as in, you're saying that this is one of those words that's gone down in stock now due to LLM preference for using it? I think that's true I used to like it. I guess I have always liked "quiet" things in wr
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by patcon 17d ago
YES. Well said. This is why I want to know which text is from human thought labour. To read text or to consume outputs of human minds is to learn about those minds and how those minds might work. There's a deep loss in having no mind t
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by patcon 20d ago
wat
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by patcon 20d ago
The Language Organism: The Leiden theory of language evolution https://www.wiedenhof.nl/ul/cil17le.pdf
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by patcon 21d ago
If fighting AI with AI is pessimistic, I don't know what optimism is. That sounds like optimistic to me...!
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by patcon 22d ago
heh, yeah, just "unable to use metaphor effectively" is what I meant :) i guess I'm saying it in a funny way because my brain has always thought about semantic space (and the act/object of conversation itself) in a very
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by patcon 22d ago
fwiw, in relation to a future rogue AI, this is what would be said by both (1) a synthetic fake user and (2) a useful idiot to the malicious AI's objectives. Not saying this is what's happening now, but you should be aware that th
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by patcon 22d ago
Ah, so like the distance between ambition and impact in metaphor/synthesis? I like that.
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by patcon 22d ago
Yeah, I feel similarly, and kinda grieve how this is not longer a valued skill... I think I've cultivated my taste in many important social dimensions through thinking about what is important to leave in docs and in a note. It's a

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