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I have a gas range, gas water heater, gas logs, and gas backup heat. My gas bill is around $15 a month. My home has proper ventilation to the outside and I have
by nephy 3y ago
I have a gas range, gas water heater, gas logs, and gas backup heat. My gas bill is around $15 a month. My home has proper ventilation to the outside and I have no intention of converting a cheap gas bill into a high electric bill.
- ahoka 3y agoDo you also just dig a hole in your backyard and dump used oil there?
- nephy 3y agoNo, but my electric company buried tons of coal ash that leaked into the surrounding water table.
- korhojoa 3y agoSounds like they should be held responsible for environmental harm, perhaps part of their their restitution could be installing a bunch of renewable energy sources (kind of like dieselgate). Seems awfully dumb to let them not do anything about it, but doesn't seem like a valuable counterargument to stay with a energy method that directly contributes to poorer health.
- dangus 3y agoInduction ranges heat up water faster and use less energy than gas ranges: https://www.treehugger.com/which-more-energy-efficient-cooking-gas-or-induction-4858206 https://www.treehugger.com/which-more-energy-efficient-cooki... Since you mentioned that you have backup heating, I assume you don’t live in a very cold climate, in which case a heat pump for your backup heat and water heater is your most efficient lowest cost option, not a gas system. Part of your gas bill is just paying the gas company for a line. Your bill would be around $10 even if you use 0 gas. So basically having two different bills costs you extra money already. Then there’s the fact that you can get a solar system and generate your own electricity, which you can’t do with gas. Solar systems can have a payoff period in the 5-10 year range which is very reasonable. If you pair it with an electric car you’re almost never paying a utility or oil company for your fuel needs. I’m not saying you should run out and retrofit your whole home because that would never pay itself off, but in your climate I would never touch gas in a new build.
- swayvil 3y agoDo they make them without glass tops?
- rolobio 3y agoI had my glass stove top shatter. Turns out that is the only thing they don’t warranty. I did not opt for the extended warranty on the next stove…
- swayvil 3y agoAlso, apparently induction stoves require special cookware So you just throw out all your pots?
- fragmede 3y agoWhile I can make no comment about your pots, cast iron, and many types of stainless steel are compatible, so any pots purchased recently should work. What I can say is it turns out all my pots worked and I didn't have to repurchase any when I got my induction stove. And it was worth it. Induction is better than gas!
- pandaman 3y agoYou can purchase copper pots and pans right now and they won't work still, it's not the time of purchase but the material. Non-ferrous materials won't work with induction. Copper, aluminum, clay, stone, glass etc. won't work no matter when purchased.
- revscat 3y agoNo? Where did you get such a ridiculous idea?
- swayvil 3y agoFirst google https://www.neff.com.au/service/support/induction-cooktops/what-is-cookware#:~:text=Do%20you%20need%20new%20pans,itself%20that%20generates%20the%20heat https://www.neff.com.au/service/support/induction-cooktops/w....
- kccqzy 3y agoThis is why we need a carbon tax. Your gas bill needs to be much higher.
- nephy 3y agoAs opposed to my electricity, which is mostly produced by a coal plant?
- wenebego 3y agoThe carbon tax should fund renewable energy sources.
- koheripbal 3y ago...lots of things SHOULD be true, but are not in practice.
- cinntaile 3y agoEmission reductions and or efficiency improvements are also possible outcomes if the tax is higher than the cost of these changes.
- RandomLensman 3y agoOnly if you can finance/afford it. If not, it could even delay change as it reduces available funds.
- DoughnutHole 3y agoThe target is really industry. If no one has to pay the cost of emissions no one has any incentive to change. Look to the oil crisis of the 70s for examples - it was a bad time but the cost of fuel spurred a surge in sale of small cars because fuel efficiency finally mattered. On another front it spurred the cycling culture of the Netherlands - they didn’t take up cycling and build infrastructure to support it out of altruism, they did it because their fuel supply was nearly cut off entirely. Innovation only happens when there is a reason to innovate. If carbon emissions don’t cost the emitter anything then there’s no reason to invest in ways to emit less.
- pinkmuffinere 3y agoA big point of the article seems to be that standard ventilation does not/did not adequately get rid of the nitrogen dioxide generated from a gas stove. Is your ventilation just really good, or is this not a concern for you?
- nephy 3y agoI have a fan with 5 speeds that sucks a lot of air. The stove is on an exterior wall and vents directly to the side of my house. I’m not really concerned about it.
- kergonath 3y agoMost people have no clue because you cannot see or smell it. So people tend to underestimate it. After all, they’ve been doing it for decades, so how bad could it really be? So, you’ll get feelings and intuition as replies if you ask this kind of question, not anything solid. We are fucking terrible at risk analysis and management.
- smileysteve 3y agoInteresting, anecdotally, the builder of my town home was convinced by promo dollars to install a gas range, gas heat for a half the house, and a gas fireplace. I pay approximately $33 a month in service fees, $1 for gas 9 months of the year, and $30 for gas 3 months (we've sort of embraced the fire as a way to make some use of the fees) If you're doing the math, we're paying $360 a year in fees for $70 (5x the fees as the use) Oh and the game of carbon credits a $6 a month fee that the gas company then gives us a promo credit for each month
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoWhy do you think it’s so cheap?
- thelastgallon 3y agoDo you source your own gas? I live in Texas, fossil fuel and natural gas state, and gas bill is between $50 - $255/month. This is with barely any cooking.
- peteradio 3y agoHow much friggin gas do you use? Do you own greenhouses or something? Is that your bill on the months where there is a surprise freeze and the whole state poops its pants? Something is obviously missing from your consumption figure.
- thelastgallon 3y agothe average cost of natural gas in the U.S. is a little over $100 per month: https://www.inspirecleanenergy.com/blog/sustainable-living/average-gas-bill https://www.inspirecleanenergy.com/blog/sustainable-living/a...
- nephy 3y agoNatural gas from the county.