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U.S. Naval Institute Fleet Tracker

65 points by stefankuehnel 3y ago

Waterluvian 3y ago
Interesting that they include the Polar Star. I assume it’s not leading any sort of group and is sailing independently.
- WJW 3y ago
  It does mention in the article that: USCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10) began its journey to toward Antarctica in support of its yearly trip to McMurdo Sound. So it's probably sailing alone right now, but other (cargo) ships will join it later. See also the last paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Contemporary_functions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Contemporary_f....
  - Waterluvian 3y ago
    Oh thanks. I didn’t even realize they’re articles. It’s quite cool to see the military utilized to support research purposes. Not that this is new, but it’s a pretty decent way to get extra value out of necessary exercise.
    - ianburrell 3y ago
      Polar Star is Coast Guard. Coast Guard is technically armed service but they do search and rescue, and law enforcement. They are under Homeland Security.
      - sillywalk 3y ago
        Interestingly, I found this bit interesting (emphasis mine), I never knew they deployed much overseas, much less for that long. "The Coast Guard, which has been conducting operations around the world for centuries now, is a branch of the U.S. military and can support military operations if called upon to do so. However, it has a unique legal status that also allows it to conduct law enforcement activities and it is situated within the Department of Homeland Security, rather than the Department of Defense." https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40360/u-s-coast-guard-cutter-enters-the-tense-black-sea-highlighting-the-services-overseas-presence https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40360/u-s-coast-guard-...
anovikov 3y ago
Which is the third CSG that's being sent to Israel coast?
- photochemsyn 3y ago
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  - rrr_oh_man 3y ago
    > Hacker News is a blackout zone for the current violent events What do you base that on? Other than "political event X" not being relevant to _Hacker News_ by itself?
    - photochemsyn 3y ago
      There's a search function at the bottom of the page, try sorting a search for something like 'Gaza' by date and counting the number of comments on each story. 26 days ago this story was published, which got 593 comments - and then the plug was pulled. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38045514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38045514
  - maratc 3y ago
    > Hacker News is a blackout zone for the current violent events taking place in what used to be called "the Levant" This is not limited to either "violent" events or "the Levant" — HN is not about any type of "current events" anywhere. This is clearly outlined right there in the Guidelines: > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
    - photochemsyn 3y ago
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throw0101b 3y ago
Does this show the current location of the USS Jimmy Carter? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter > Seabed warfare has been brought into sharp focus by Russia’s ongoing efforts to map undersea infrastructure. And by the September 2022 with the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic. There is no suggestion that the USS Jimmy Carter was involved in the Nord Stream incident (it wasn’t!). But the attack shows the relevance of these capabilities. Most seabed warfare however is closer to espionage than sabotage. And the American submarines excel. * https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/04/u-s-navy-to-get-new-unique-submarine-virginia-ssw/ https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/04/u-s-navy-to-get... * https://www.navalnews.com/tag/seabed-warfare/ https://www.navalnews.com/tag/seabed-warfare/
- rtkwe 3y ago
  No subs are on the map at all if you look at it. Secrecy is their main defense so giving even approximate locations is a no no.
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darklycan51 3y ago
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- ajmurmann 3y ago
  If the Roman empire could fall, we finally would have the glorious dark ages
dzonga 3y ago
all those ships in japan / in the pacific. ready to strike china if need be.
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- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  Southeast asia has had US military presence for longer than communist or even democratic china has existed. Japan and the Philippines for example are still pretty much American possessions from a military, economic, and foreign policy perspective, despite the guise of self determination for the populace.
- Hayvok 3y ago
  Now overlay all of the bases, airfields, and other assets throughout the Pacific. There are several islands that are effectively stationary aircraft carriers. In the event of any Pacific war with the Americans you would be staring down 8-10 super-carrier groups, another 8 smaller carriers and a dozen or so islands each equivalent to a super-carrier’s power. Most nations would struggle to defeat a single carrier group. Imagine fighting twenty.
  - paganel 3y ago
    Why would China venture into the Pacific? That would bring no strategic benefits to them. More generally, I think that the US is preparing to fight the last big war that they’ve been involved in (meaning WW2), instead of preparing for the next one. Again, China won’t venture towards Midway or Hawaii, actually, I think that Imperial Japan might have had a better chance had it decided to focus on the land war (mostly in China) instead of risking it all at Midway.
    - nradov 3y ago
      No one expects China to actually invade Midway or Hawaii. However, they do want to secure their sea lines of communication including Taiwan, the Paracel Islands, the Spratly Islands, and the Malacca Strait. Due to lack of natural resources and overpopulation they depend on imports of food, fertilizer, fossil fuels, and iron ore just to survive. Hypothetically if they were to invade Taiwan they might take the risk of conducting long-range strikes against US bases in the theater in order to degrade our ability to respond. Japan in 1941 had no chance to succeed long term by focusing on a land war in China because they were being cut off from access to crucial raw materials. To be clear I am not justifying their aggressive and genocidal military actions. Just pointing out that from that perspective their attacks on Midway and Hawaii made a certain amount of strategic sense and had at least a small chance of working.
082349872349872 3y ago
this projection has the large advantage of familiarity, but for naval assets I prefer Spilhaus, eg https://porteconomicsmanagement.org/wp-content/uploads/Map-Passages-with-Shipping-Routes-Spilhaus-1.pdf https://porteconomicsmanagement.org/wp-content/uploads/Map-P...
stn8188 3y ago
Ah I think this year marks two decades since the Coast Guard's Patrol Forces Southwest Asia (PATFORSWA) started operating in the Persian Gulf. Interesting to see it on a fleet tracker, as it's basically a permanent fixture at this point. They even have been replacing the old Island Class patrol boats with a brand new class. I'm not sure if I'm misremembering but I seem to recall hearing a plan of the Coast Guard getting out of there within about a year of my time ('09).

65 points by stefankuehnel 3y ago

Waterluvian 3y ago

Interesting that they include the Polar Star. I assume it’s not leading any sort of group and is sailing independently.

WJW 3y ago
It does mention in the article that: USCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10) began its journey to toward Antarctica in support of its yearly trip to McMurdo Sound. So it's probably sailing alone right now, but other (cargo) ships will join it later. See also the last paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Contemporary_functions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Contemporary_f....
- Waterluvian 3y ago
  Oh thanks. I didn’t even realize they’re articles. It’s quite cool to see the military utilized to support research purposes. Not that this is new, but it’s a pretty decent way to get extra value out of necessary exercise.
  - ianburrell 3y ago
    Polar Star is Coast Guard. Coast Guard is technically armed service but they do search and rescue, and law enforcement. They are under Homeland Security.
    - sillywalk 3y ago
      Interestingly, I found this bit interesting (emphasis mine), I never knew they deployed much overseas, much less for that long. "The Coast Guard, which has been conducting operations around the world for centuries now, is a branch of the U.S. military and can support military operations if called upon to do so. However, it has a unique legal status that also allows it to conduct law enforcement activities and it is situated within the Department of Homeland Security, rather than the Department of Defense." https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40360/u-s-coast-guard-cutter-enters-the-tense-black-sea-highlighting-the-services-overseas-presence https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40360/u-s-coast-guard-...

anovikov 3y ago

Which is the third CSG that's being sent to Israel coast?

photochemsyn 3y ago
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- rrr_oh_man 3y ago
  > Hacker News is a blackout zone for the current violent events What do you base that on? Other than "political event X" not being relevant to _Hacker News_ by itself?
  - photochemsyn 3y ago
    There's a search function at the bottom of the page, try sorting a search for something like 'Gaza' by date and counting the number of comments on each story. 26 days ago this story was published, which got 593 comments - and then the plug was pulled. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38045514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38045514
- maratc 3y ago
  > Hacker News is a blackout zone for the current violent events taking place in what used to be called "the Levant" This is not limited to either "violent" events or "the Levant" — HN is not about any type of "current events" anywhere. This is clearly outlined right there in the Guidelines: > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
  - photochemsyn 3y ago
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throw0101b 3y ago

Does this show the current location of the USS Jimmy Carter? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter > Seabed warfare has been brought into sharp focus by Russia’s ongoing efforts to map undersea infrastructure. And by the September 2022 with the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic. There is no suggestion that the USS Jimmy Carter was involved in the Nord Stream incident (it wasn’t!). But the attack shows the relevance of these capabilities. Most seabed warfare however is closer to espionage than sabotage. And the American submarines excel. * https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/04/u-s-navy-to-get-new-unique-submarine-virginia-ssw/ https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/04/u-s-navy-to-get... * https://www.navalnews.com/tag/seabed-warfare/ https://www.navalnews.com/tag/seabed-warfare/

rtkwe 3y ago
No subs are on the map at all if you look at it. Secrecy is their main defense so giving even approximate locations is a no no.
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darklycan51 3y ago

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ajmurmann 3y ago
If the Roman empire could fall, we finally would have the glorious dark ages

dzonga 3y ago

all those ships in japan / in the pacific. ready to strike china if need be.

deleted 3y ago
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kjkjadksj 3y ago
Southeast asia has had US military presence for longer than communist or even democratic china has existed. Japan and the Philippines for example are still pretty much American possessions from a military, economic, and foreign policy perspective, despite the guise of self determination for the populace.
Hayvok 3y ago
Now overlay all of the bases, airfields, and other assets throughout the Pacific. There are several islands that are effectively stationary aircraft carriers. In the event of any Pacific war with the Americans you would be staring down 8-10 super-carrier groups, another 8 smaller carriers and a dozen or so islands each equivalent to a super-carrier’s power. Most nations would struggle to defeat a single carrier group. Imagine fighting twenty.
- paganel 3y ago
  Why would China venture into the Pacific? That would bring no strategic benefits to them. More generally, I think that the US is preparing to fight the last big war that they’ve been involved in (meaning WW2), instead of preparing for the next one. Again, China won’t venture towards Midway or Hawaii, actually, I think that Imperial Japan might have had a better chance had it decided to focus on the land war (mostly in China) instead of risking it all at Midway.
  - nradov 3y ago
    No one expects China to actually invade Midway or Hawaii. However, they do want to secure their sea lines of communication including Taiwan, the Paracel Islands, the Spratly Islands, and the Malacca Strait. Due to lack of natural resources and overpopulation they depend on imports of food, fertilizer, fossil fuels, and iron ore just to survive. Hypothetically if they were to invade Taiwan they might take the risk of conducting long-range strikes against US bases in the theater in order to degrade our ability to respond. Japan in 1941 had no chance to succeed long term by focusing on a land war in China because they were being cut off from access to crucial raw materials. To be clear I am not justifying their aggressive and genocidal military actions. Just pointing out that from that perspective their attacks on Midway and Hawaii made a certain amount of strategic sense and had at least a small chance of working.

082349872349872 3y ago

this projection has the large advantage of familiarity, but for naval assets I prefer Spilhaus, eg https://porteconomicsmanagement.org/wp-content/uploads/Map-Passages-with-Shipping-Routes-Spilhaus-1.pdf https://porteconomicsmanagement.org/wp-content/uploads/Map-P...

stn8188 3y ago

Ah I think this year marks two decades since the Coast Guard's Patrol Forces Southwest Asia (PATFORSWA) started operating in the Persian Gulf. Interesting to see it on a fleet tracker, as it's basically a permanent fixture at this point. They even have been replacing the old Island Class patrol boats with a brand new class. I'm not sure if I'm misremembering but I seem to recall hearing a plan of the Coast Guard getting out of there within about a year of my time ('09).