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New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor

nullptr_deref 3y ago
Although this is informative article, I felt a little bad while reading the advertisement being shoved on. The sad part is the website doesn't work on mobile properly. And each link redirects to their internal website instead of original patent url. There is a patent ID and it is cool!
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  I don't have any problems with this website on my phone (Android, Firefox, not usually a combination that's tested), maybe there's some kind of extension or setting that's breaking your experience?
  - probably_wrong 3y ago
    I'm using Android + Firefox in Private Mode and I get the same issue - links redirect to stuff like https://tryslate.greyb.com/engage/USD712067S1 https://tryslate.greyb.com/engage/USD712067S1, but then all I get is a white page. I have a similar issue with imgur in Europe, but I don't care enough about either website to delve deeper.
    - flyaway123 3y ago
      > Uncaught (in promise) FirebaseError: Messaging: This browser doesn't support the API's required to use the Firebase SDK. (messaging/unsupported-browser). One of the console messages.
    - jeroenhd 3y ago
      I see, I can see the same thing happening here. I wonder what part of private navigation could be breaking the website? I have Firefox's tracking protection set to strict for normal browsing already, so I wasn't expecting a difference between private browsing and normal browsing. My guess is that it's this issue again: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542 but if that's the case I can't really blame the website here, other than that it doesn't show a fallback error message when Javascript crashes. Based on a sibling comment, I'm guessing this website is using Firebase Auth, which uses the IndexedDB API, which Mozilla has disabled for private browsing.
- scientific_ass 3y ago
  Hello nullptr, Thanks for sharing feedback about website and content. I will share it ahead with the authors. I think it wasn't their intention to advertise Apple here but if it is feeling like an advertisement, then they sure can improve they way they have portrayed this analysis. About their internal tool. I would be open to share your feedback about this as well if you share it with me. Would be open to hear feedback from other readers too. Please reply to my comment and I can share it ahead. Thanks.
ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
It’s an interesting article, but I feel two ways about it, as it’s quite clearly an ad for the company. However, I respect that they don’t hide that. A lot of articles are really “stealth ads,” masquerading as “news,” so it’s refreshing to see these folks just come out and say it. It is also genuinely interesting and original subject matter, not just reflected text from another site.
- scientific_ass 3y ago
  Hello ChrisMarshallNY, I know the author, thanks for sharing your views. I will share your feedback ahead. I do not think their intention is to advertise Apple because most of their articles are on analysis based on patent data.
  - netsharc 3y ago
    I think he meant the article is an ad for GreyB: > You can learn much about a company’s market value and upcoming business plans by analyzing patterns in its IP strategy. Being a pioneer in the IP R&D space, GreyB has the expertise and resources to help you cut through the noise and get actionable insights on a company or innovator.
    - scientific_ass 3y ago
      Oh, okay. Yes it makes sense. Will share this ahead as well. Thank you.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
      Yes, it was an ad for GreyB. It does look like they have a legitimate BI product. It isn't what I need, but I did appreciate the insight. Like I said, even though it is an ad, it is one that is actually useful as legitimate information.
mschuster91 3y ago
> Savant Systems, a Massachusetts-based home automation company, worked with Apple to create a mechanism for remotely controlling the motion of a vehicle using a wireless mobile device. They filed the patent application in 2014, which was granted in 2016. They submitted an updated patent in 2016, which was granted in 2019. Steve Jobs’s name was among the inventors in both these patents. How the fuck is this patent worthy? The patent describes nothing more than using a smartphone to remotely control a ship's various control methods backed by a data link that's monitored for link quality.
- guappa 3y ago
  In the blues brothers 2000 (1998) elwood drove the bluesmobile with a remote. I think that's prior art.
  - michaelmcdonald 3y ago
    In "Tomorrow Never Dies" (1997) James Bond drives his BMW remotely via a cell phone. Now there are multiple instances of prior art. EDIT: corrected which movie
    - sumtechguy 3y ago
      'watch this watch this' - back to the future.
- geon 3y ago
  The US patent system is a joke. Patents are basically granted for anything, and are expected to be resolved in courts.
  - amelius 3y ago
    Is the EU patent system any better?
    - mschuster91 3y ago
helsinkiandrew 3y ago
> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d1c08413/USD712067.pdf https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...
- froh 3y ago
  a design patent that is.
- onetimeuse92304 3y ago
  When you learn to patent ideas every idea looks like a patentable idea...
  - shapefrog 3y ago
    You should patent that process.
  - wslh 3y ago
    I would say something similar: it is very tempting to patent stuff when you can just trigger a whole patenting process with a single email or message.
    - onetimeuse92304 3y ago
      Exactly. I don't say it is not possible for somebody to have 400 original patents, but I think it is incompatible with also having a full time job as a CEO of a large company if you had to do them yourself. Also it is worth noting that ideas are a dime a dozen. Years ago I red Getting Things Done by David Allen and I set up my GTD system in Ultra Recall. Since then, I had the idea for the best personal information management system ever. Too bad, I carried the idea with me for too long and never executed on it. Recently I discovered that somebody had very similar idea and the application is called Notion. See, it does not matter if you have an idea, it only has any worth if you can also execute on it.
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johnbatch 3y ago
Seems like most are design patents. For all the graphs and charts it would be nice to know what percentage are design patents vs utility patents.
- scientific_ass 3y ago
  You're right. Most are design patents. Only 10.75% are utility patents.
api 3y ago
iOuija?
hulitu 3y ago
> New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor He's the only innovator left at Apple. /s

Although this is informative article, I felt a little bad while reading the advertisement being shoved on. The sad part is the website doesn't work on mobile properly. And each link redirects to their internal website instead of original patent url. There is a patent ID and it is cool!

jeroenhd 3y ago
I don't have any problems with this website on my phone (Android, Firefox, not usually a combination that's tested), maybe there's some kind of extension or setting that's breaking your experience?
- probably_wrong 3y ago
  I'm using Android + Firefox in Private Mode and I get the same issue - links redirect to stuff like https://tryslate.greyb.com/engage/USD712067S1 https://tryslate.greyb.com/engage/USD712067S1, but then all I get is a white page. I have a similar issue with imgur in Europe, but I don't care enough about either website to delve deeper.
  - flyaway123 3y ago
    > Uncaught (in promise) FirebaseError: Messaging: This browser doesn't support the API's required to use the Firebase SDK. (messaging/unsupported-browser). One of the console messages.
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    I see, I can see the same thing happening here. I wonder what part of private navigation could be breaking the website? I have Firefox's tracking protection set to strict for normal browsing already, so I wasn't expecting a difference between private browsing and normal browsing. My guess is that it's this issue again: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1639542 but if that's the case I can't really blame the website here, other than that it doesn't show a fallback error message when Javascript crashes. Based on a sibling comment, I'm guessing this website is using Firebase Auth, which uses the IndexedDB API, which Mozilla has disabled for private browsing.
scientific_ass 3y ago
Hello nullptr, Thanks for sharing feedback about website and content. I will share it ahead with the authors. I think it wasn't their intention to advertise Apple here but if it is feeling like an advertisement, then they sure can improve they way they have portrayed this analysis. About their internal tool. I would be open to share your feedback about this as well if you share it with me. Would be open to hear feedback from other readers too. Please reply to my comment and I can share it ahead. Thanks.

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago

It’s an interesting article, but I feel two ways about it, as it’s quite clearly an ad for the company. However, I respect that they don’t hide that. A lot of articles are really “stealth ads,” masquerading as “news,” so it’s refreshing to see these folks just come out and say it. It is also genuinely interesting and original subject matter, not just reflected text from another site.

scientific_ass 3y ago
Hello ChrisMarshallNY, I know the author, thanks for sharing your views. I will share your feedback ahead. I do not think their intention is to advertise Apple because most of their articles are on analysis based on patent data.
- netsharc 3y ago
  I think he meant the article is an ad for GreyB: > You can learn much about a company’s market value and upcoming business plans by analyzing patterns in its IP strategy. Being a pioneer in the IP R&D space, GreyB has the expertise and resources to help you cut through the noise and get actionable insights on a company or innovator.
  - scientific_ass 3y ago
    Oh, okay. Yes it makes sense. Will share this ahead as well. Thank you.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
    Yes, it was an ad for GreyB. It does look like they have a legitimate BI product. It isn't what I need, but I did appreciate the insight. Like I said, even though it is an ad, it is one that is actually useful as legitimate information.

mschuster91 3y ago

> Savant Systems, a Massachusetts-based home automation company, worked with Apple to create a mechanism for remotely controlling the motion of a vehicle using a wireless mobile device. They filed the patent application in 2014, which was granted in 2016. They submitted an updated patent in 2016, which was granted in 2019. Steve Jobs’s name was among the inventors in both these patents. How the fuck is this patent worthy? The patent describes nothing more than using a smartphone to remotely control a ship's various control methods backed by a data link that's monitored for link quality.

guappa 3y ago
In the blues brothers 2000 (1998) elwood drove the bluesmobile with a remote. I think that's prior art.
- michaelmcdonald 3y ago
  In "Tomorrow Never Dies" (1997) James Bond drives his BMW remotely via a cell phone. Now there are multiple instances of prior art. EDIT: corrected which movie
  - sumtechguy 3y ago
    'watch this watch this' - back to the future.
geon 3y ago
The US patent system is a joke. Patents are basically granted for anything, and are expected to be resolved in courts.
- amelius 3y ago
  Is the EU patent system any better?
  - mschuster91 3y ago

helsinkiandrew 3y ago

> The last patent Jobs applied for was the dramatic glass cube for the entrance to the Apple store on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, New York A patent for a glass cube! https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d1c08413/USD712067.pdf https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/28/89/c3/fd8ac1d...

froh 3y ago
a design patent that is.
onetimeuse92304 3y ago
When you learn to patent ideas every idea looks like a patentable idea...
- shapefrog 3y ago
  You should patent that process.
- wslh 3y ago
  I would say something similar: it is very tempting to patent stuff when you can just trigger a whole patenting process with a single email or message.
  - onetimeuse92304 3y ago
    Exactly. I don't say it is not possible for somebody to have 400 original patents, but I think it is incompatible with also having a full time job as a CEO of a large company if you had to do them yourself. Also it is worth noting that ideas are a dime a dozen. Years ago I red Getting Things Done by David Allen and I set up my GTD system in Ultra Recall. Since then, I had the idea for the best personal information management system ever. Too bad, I carried the idea with me for too long and never executed on it. Recently I discovered that somebody had very similar idea and the application is called Notion. See, it does not matter if you have an idea, it only has any worth if you can also execute on it.

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johnbatch 3y ago

Seems like most are design patents. For all the graphs and charts it would be nice to know what percentage are design patents vs utility patents.

scientific_ass 3y ago
You're right. Most are design patents. Only 10.75% are utility patents.

api 3y ago

iOuija?

hulitu 3y ago

> New Apple patents have Steve Jobs credited as an inventor He's the only innovator left at Apple. /s