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Oldest footprints in North America push back human arrival
- smegsicle 3y agowill we ever find anything that humans haven't touched ???
- bryanlarsen 3y agoDinosaurs?
- whatshisface 3y agoEvery dinosaur found was excavated by a human.
- jetrink 3y agoSeveral dogs are credited with finding dinosaur fossils, but I will grant you that they were not allowed to perform the excavation.
- smegsicle 3y agothey literally didn't let those poor dogs do their favorite part made them watch
- AdmiralAsshat 3y agoThe difficulty was getting the dog to part with the dinosaur bone once it had dug one up.
- smegsicle 3y agokilled by them too
- User23 3y agoPerhaps not everyone realizes that every year thousands (millions?) of people go out to shoot dinosaurs, often of the duck-billed variety.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoWe're having dinosaur for dinner tonight.
- Acrobatic_Road 3y agoand often with guns of the long-ass variety
- nickthegreek 3y agoThat’s a fossilized remnant, not a dinosaur.
- diogenes4 3y agoskeleton of theseus etc
- irrational 3y agoYou’ve never touched a bird? Find someone with chickens and ask if you can touch their dinosaur.
- debatem1 3y agoPretty sure we haven't touched the sun and I find that almost every day.
- p1necone 3y agoWe just gotta land there at night.
- doodlebugging 3y agoIsn't it nighttime on the other side of the sun? We could just buzz on around there and hang out in the shade.
- venantius 3y agoWooooosh.
- charonn0 3y agoAt night it's called the moon.
- dekhn 3y agothere is no dark side of the moon matter of fact, it's all dark
- thegabriele 3y agoWe actually "touch" nothing: https://www.quora.com/If-were-made-of-atoms-and-atoms-cant-touch-how-do-we-touch-other-people https://www.quora.com/If-were-made-of-atoms-and-atoms-cant-t...
- carapace 3y agoThere are vast portions of the North American continent that have never been visited by any human modern or ancient.
- bagels 3y agoWhy do some of the feet seem to have four or six toes?
- codetrotter 3y agoWell, relatedly: The median number of legs for a human being is 2. The average is slightly less. So most people have an above average number of legs. But also, footprints with just four toes could also be because of one of the toes not carrying enough weight to make a legible print.
- permo-w 3y agorelatedly, the average number of brains in the human body is just over 1, so most people have below average brains
- pinkmuffinere 3y agoThis is news to me — can you elaborate? Is this a cannibalism joke?
- permo-w 3y agoever seen a pregnant woman?
- pinkmuffinere 3y agoAh, fair enough. I think I prefer it as a cannibalism joke though lol
- nealabq 3y ago... or the movie Alien? Altho that's also a kind of pregnancy.
- riley_dog 3y agoWouldn't the median be 1? Most folks have 2 legs, but some have 1 or even 0. The median would be 2 if some people had 4 legs.
- informalo 3y agohttps://archive.ph/qbNbZ https://archive.ph/qbNbZ
- BMorearty 3y agoI'm confused by this article. It says "New evidence adds to work showing people made these prints [in New Mexico] sometime between 21,000 and 23,000 years ago." It supposedly contradicts experts' belief for decades that "the first people in the Americas migrated from Siberia across the Bering Strait on a land bridge exposed during the last glacial maximum, sometime between 26,500 and 19,000 years ago. How is that contradictory?
- diogenes4 3y agoI believe that "sometime between 26,500 and 19,000 years ago" is an appositive marking the beginning of the land bridge's accessibility, not the time of migration. What they should have said is that the broadly accepted conservative time frame for migration is somewhere between 14kya and 19kya, as the white sands footprints have dating issues that complicate accepting them at face value. The liberal interpretations of the evidence—especially in northern Canada and Alaska—can push evidence back to more than 33kya—I've seen dating for 44kya, iirc, which is very contentious and not broadly accepted. That said I don't have a wapo subscription, so that's my best guess.
- hinkley 3y agoIt wasn’t so long ago we thought 12500 years was about the right time.
- AlotOfReading 3y agoIt's been well over a decade since Monte Verde became widely accepted (2008-2010ish). Only a couple more years till it can vote.
- hinkley 3y agoIt’s been decades since most people here took a natural history class. World is full of doctors spewing fifteen year out-of-date medical knowledge. Not everyone is going to be up on recent-ish events in your little niche. You’re in for a lot of rough conversations.
- fredgrott 3y agoIt was not the land bridge, it was the island chain below it as then with sea levels at it's lowest it would be easy to island hop and with the benefit of being able to island hop and follow food animal migrations. Remember Kayak is an Inuit word...
- jcranmer 3y agoModern Inuit are descended from Thule culture, which spreads into the Arctic around 1100 CE. It's not clear when kayaks first develop; the oldest clear reference to one I can find involves a toy kayak dated to ~500CE in an Alaskan culture that probably influenced the Inuit.
- mitchbob 3y agoThe magazine of the Museum of New Mexico recently had a longer article about the research: https://www.elpalacio.org/2023/05/history-science-mythology-and-the-first-americans/ https://www.elpalacio.org/2023/05/history-science-mythology-...