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Its not even summer in Brazil yet! They're just coming out of winter, right? Are there any Brazilians on HN?

goenning 3y ago
Yes, but there is no winter on that region, it’s always 30+ https://weatherspark.com/y/28814/Average-Weather-in-Manaus-Brazil-Year-Round https://weatherspark.com/y/28814/Average-Weather-in-Manaus-B...
cesarb 3y ago
> Its not even summer in Brazil yet! They're just coming out of winter, right? > Are there any Brazilians on HN? Of course! As the sibling comment indicated, the region in question is near the equator, where the "winter" versus "summer" distinction is less relevant (though AFAIK it does have "wet" versus "dry" seasons). I live much further south (this country is huge), where seasons are more relevant, and around here we're leaving an abnormal winter; last week we had summer-like temperatures, to the point that we broke the previous record in both country-wide and region-wide electricity consumption (due to all the cooling loads, hot days always consume more electricity compared to cold days).
- orwin 3y ago
  I have friends living in French Guyana (both work for the space program), they told me the two seasons were rather 'wet' and 'very wet' there.
marcosdumay 3y ago
This doesn't matter much on the Amazon. I live a few thousands of kilometers south from it, it is still doesn't matter a lot here. Brazil is passing through an abnormally hot season, but those come from chaotic reasons that can happen on any time at all. Around here the summer tends to be hotter than the winter, but it's a slightly biased coin-toss. At the Amazon, it's much more random (slightly biased into being the hottest at the fall).
virgulino 3y ago
Winter ended on October 23 here in Brazil. Two days later, Belo Horizonte, the capital of the state of Minas Gerais, recorded the hottest day in history. 38.6oC, 101oF. The hottest day since 1910. It wasn't the hottest day of September or spring. It was the hottest day in recorded history. Hotter than the summer record. I'm in the far south of Brazil. Known for its cold. Brazilians come here to feel the cold, to do cold weather tourism. This entire winter has been absolutely bonkers. Heat wave after heat wave. https://www.vox.com/climate/23864998/heat-wave-south-america-brazil-australia-argentina-hemisphere-winter https://www.vox.com/climate/23864998/heat-wave-south-america... https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/25/americas/extreme-heat-south-america-brazil-climate-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/25/americas/extreme-heat-sou... And it's not just the heat. It's the crazy swings. There are people here who are hearing the word "cyclone" for the very first time. And dying in the process. While it was still winter. The town of Muçum is no more. Cyclones were thought to be impossible in the South Atlantic until recently. https://www.todayonline.com/world/least-39-dead-cyclone-hits-brazils-southernmost-state-2249716 https://www.todayonline.com/world/least-39-dead-cyclone-hits... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_tropical_cyclone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_tropical_cyclon... I know very little about the climate of the Amazon. I know that it's such a vast system that it has its own climate rules. We are only just beginning to understand how it works. But we have already discovered in recent years that the Amazon rainforest has a direct and gigantic impact on the climate and rainfall of the rest of Brazil. And the lake where the dolphins died is deep in the heart of the Amazon. The entire state has declared a state of emergency because of the drought. https://www.google.com/maps/place/3%C2%B019%2719.9%22S+64%C2%B045%2718.9%22W/@-3.3041561,-64.7409975,498205m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d-3.3221944!4d-64.75525?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/place/3%C2%B019%2719.9%22S+64%C2... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/29/brazil-sends-emergency-aid-to-drought-hit-amazon-state_6140588_4.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/29/b... I'm worried about what kind of hell it's going to be like here in the summer. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/26/brazil-temperature-spring-heatwave-weather-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/26/brazil-tempera...

Yes, but there is no winter on that region, it’s always 30+ https://weatherspark.com/y/28814/Average-Weather-in-Manaus-Brazil-Year-Round https://weatherspark.com/y/28814/Average-Weather-in-Manaus-B...

cesarb 3y ago

> Its not even summer in Brazil yet! They're just coming out of winter, right? > Are there any Brazilians on HN? Of course! As the sibling comment indicated, the region in question is near the equator, where the "winter" versus "summer" distinction is less relevant (though AFAIK it does have "wet" versus "dry" seasons). I live much further south (this country is huge), where seasons are more relevant, and around here we're leaving an abnormal winter; last week we had summer-like temperatures, to the point that we broke the previous record in both country-wide and region-wide electricity consumption (due to all the cooling loads, hot days always consume more electricity compared to cold days).

orwin 3y ago
I have friends living in French Guyana (both work for the space program), they told me the two seasons were rather 'wet' and 'very wet' there.

marcosdumay 3y ago

This doesn't matter much on the Amazon. I live a few thousands of kilometers south from it, it is still doesn't matter a lot here. Brazil is passing through an abnormally hot season, but those come from chaotic reasons that can happen on any time at all. Around here the summer tends to be hotter than the winter, but it's a slightly biased coin-toss. At the Amazon, it's much more random (slightly biased into being the hottest at the fall).

virgulino 3y ago

Winter ended on October 23 here in Brazil. Two days later, Belo Horizonte, the capital of the state of Minas Gerais, recorded the hottest day in history. 38.6oC, 101oF. The hottest day since 1910. It wasn't the hottest day of September or spring. It was the hottest day in recorded history. Hotter than the summer record. I'm in the far south of Brazil. Known for its cold. Brazilians come here to feel the cold, to do cold weather tourism. This entire winter has been absolutely bonkers. Heat wave after heat wave. https://www.vox.com/climate/23864998/heat-wave-south-america-brazil-australia-argentina-hemisphere-winter https://www.vox.com/climate/23864998/heat-wave-south-america... https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/25/americas/extreme-heat-south-america-brazil-climate-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/25/americas/extreme-heat-sou... And it's not just the heat. It's the crazy swings. There are people here who are hearing the word "cyclone" for the very first time. And dying in the process. While it was still winter. The town of Muçum is no more. Cyclones were thought to be impossible in the South Atlantic until recently. https://www.todayonline.com/world/least-39-dead-cyclone-hits-brazils-southernmost-state-2249716 https://www.todayonline.com/world/least-39-dead-cyclone-hits... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_tropical_cyclone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_tropical_cyclon... I know very little about the climate of the Amazon. I know that it's such a vast system that it has its own climate rules. We are only just beginning to understand how it works. But we have already discovered in recent years that the Amazon rainforest has a direct and gigantic impact on the climate and rainfall of the rest of Brazil. And the lake where the dolphins died is deep in the heart of the Amazon. The entire state has declared a state of emergency because of the drought. https://www.google.com/maps/place/3%C2%B019%2719.9%22S+64%C2%B045%2718.9%22W/@-3.3041561,-64.7409975,498205m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d-3.3221944!4d-64.75525?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/place/3%C2%B019%2719.9%22S+64%C2... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/29/brazil-sends-emergency-aid-to-drought-hit-amazon-state_6140588_4.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/29/b... I'm worried about what kind of hell it's going to be like here in the summer. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/26/brazil-temperature-spring-heatwave-weather-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/26/brazil-tempera...