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DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

294 points by ohadron 3y ago

avgtechenjoyer 3y ago
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dangero 3y ago
How is Bing getting this before full rollout to all GPTPlus users?
- Kiro 3y ago
  Microsoft owning 49% of OpenAI probably helps.
  - famouswaffles 3y ago
    They don't actually own 49% of Open AI yet. The deal was $10B for 75% of Open AI's profits until Microsoft recouped this investment. After the investment is recouped, then they have 49% of Open AI. The deal included access to all of Open AI's model.
    - dooraven 3y ago
      that seems like an awful deal for OpenAI. Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion?
      - morelisp 3y ago
        If they can't pay it back, that seems like an awful deal for MS, and a great deal for OpenAI.
        conradfr 3y ago
        Of course it's "only" 10% of their cash reserve anyway.
      - dragonwriter 3y ago
        > Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion? By building relationships with government officials and media, and using X-risk fearmongering to lobby for regulation that inhibits competition and locks in their dominant position.
    - YetAnotherNick 3y ago
      No, after the 100*investment is recouped, MS will own 0% of openAI. Now they own 49%.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  The same reason Bing was running GPT-4 before Open AI even acknowledged the existence of the model. The $10B deal gives Microsoft exclusive access to all Open AI models.
  - dangero 3y ago
    Feels like a breaking issue for GPTPlus subscription plan when Bing has better features for free
    - throwuwu 3y ago
      Feature. Once the multimodal rollout is complete Plus will have image gen, image recognition, voice recognition and voice gen all integrated with the chat capabilities so you can combine those features in novel ways like the link Brockman retweeted showing ChatGPT acting as a language tutor and conversation partner.
      - famouswaffles 3y ago
        To be fair you can do all that from Bing Chat too(image/voice recognition and generation). And plugins are coming to it too. The downsides with Bing currently are: 1. If you're not prepared to be civil to a language model, you're not going to have a good time. 2. The image input feature isn't quite the same. Feels like descriptions are bolted in from a separate (GPT-4 V unless the Bing CTO was lying) model so it's lossy in a way straight from GPT-4 V isn't 3. Voice recognition and TTS are good but worse than what Open AI is currently using. Perhaps they'll switch since the TTS is new ? But idk. It's also not hands off like Open AI have designed their implementation.
        gowings97 3y ago
        Still waiting to gain Chat GPT-4 Plus image upload access myself, but the Bing image ingest / recognition is vastly inferior to what I've experienced myself (trying to use Bing's image upload capabilities/recognition) vs. what I've seen on Twitter the last few days with Chat GPT-4's image upload feature / recognition capabilities.
GaggiX 3y ago
Is it now only Dalle 3? I remember it was a mix Dalle 2 and 3 like two days ago.
- anonzzzies 3y ago
  It seems if it can do text properly it's dall-e 3. I'm not sure but that's what people are saying. For me the hands are much better than with 2 as well. Only folded hands have issues in the 100s of images I made.
- ilaksh 3y ago
  It might still have some DALL-E 2 in there for requests that it deems unworthy of 3. I had incredible results asking for architectural drawings earlier. Then a few minutes ago, I broke down and started prompting for supermodels. It did a terrific job the first few times. But after like three of them getting blocked (I didn't actually ask for anything inappropriate) it starting giving me something that looked like unmitigated Stable Diffusion 1.5. Lol.
skilled 3y ago
> 2 hr wait > Creating new images can take time > Because you're out of boosts, image generation may take longer than usual. Just how much money is Microsoft burning up by offering all these features? I mean, last time I checked[0] - being this generous didn't really do anything for Bing, did it? Is this "just because we can" or is it genuinely profitable for them? [0]: https://searchengineland.com/new-bing-google-market-share-six-months-430840 https://searchengineland.com/new-bing-google-market-share-si...
- dalf 3y ago
  This job offer suggests a lot: https://jobs.careers.microsoft.com/global/en/job/1627555/Principal-Program-Manager-Nuclear-Technology https://jobs.careers.microsoft.com/global/en/job/1627555/Pri... Found on Slashdot: https://m.slashdot.org/story/419681 https://m.slashdot.org/story/419681
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    So those GPUs are thirsty... It would look pretty bad if it comes out these models are exacerbating climate change...especially after all of old Bill's climate rhetoric and everyone bashing crypto for the last 5+ years about the same thing.
    - pohuing 3y ago
      > especially after all of old Bill's climate rhetoric and everyone bashing crypto for the last 5+ years about the same thing. Gates hasn't been leading MS for a long time now.
  - Culonavirus 3y ago
    A million dollars in 4 years, that's pretty crazy. Good for them.
- lstamour 3y ago
  Maybe it’s a sales tool for business adoption of Bing, that they’re applying to consumers? And they need the traffic and usage numbers, if they get those their advertising business can sit on top of it and profit.
littlestymaar 3y ago
I love how the French internationalization of title of that page is “Créer art de mots avec IA”, which is almost at the “all your base are belong to us” of level of terrible translation. Given that is probably has been AI-translated, it doesn't really inspire confidence about the AI product on this page if you're a French speaker.
- speedgoose 3y ago
  Indeed the translation is very poor. I just tried the Micrsooft on translator and the translation quality is descent. Very weird.
- GaggiX 3y ago
  I remember the page presenting the AI chatbot used by Bing, the translations there were also terrible, even at a character level, with random CAPS, and to be honest still today I have no idea how it was possible.
- fabioborellini 3y ago
  Finnish translation is a horrible word-by-word thing, too. That does not work at all translating to a language that uses very few prepositions. Words like “for” and “to” get replaced with ones from a totally different context. The thing reminds me of machine translations from around 2000. Sadly the new features on Windows, like forced Onedrive sync, also use similarly bad translations. Phishing emails have nowadays better Finnish than Windows does.
  - eMSF 3y ago
    The Finnish caption is quite a bit worse than "all your base are belong to us" type of invalid grammar. Translating it back, even with best intentions (ignoring the naive attempt of translating "from" in place) it reads "Create images from AI generated words".
- coder543 3y ago
  Why would you blame AI translation? Look at how ChatGPT-4 handles a direct translation request: https://chat.openai.com/share/8211a1f6-552b-4bf6-8f9c-bcbeb8dd0b15 https://chat.openai.com/share/8211a1f6-552b-4bf6-8f9c-bcbeb8... Or how it talks about a set of existing translations: https://chat.openai.com/share/299e40ce-806b-4f0e-a889-cb2ee2fd3501 https://chat.openai.com/share/299e40ce-806b-4f0e-a889-cb2ee2... French isn't a language I know very well, but my experience using "AI" to translate Spanish (which I actually do know somewhat) and other languages is more positive than Google Translate. A few months ago, I did side by side tests translating into English using ChatGPT-4 and Google Translate, and it's not even a contest. It's not clear where Microsoft is getting these bad translations, but it seems like they would be less terrible if they were translated by ChatGPT-4.
hn_20591249 3y ago
As with most of these tools, it appears that it is reasonably easy to get it to generate some truly hilarious/disturbing stuff, probably not for long: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/dalle_3_is_leaving_me_speechless_look_at_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/dalle_3_is...
- rwmj 3y ago
  I may be missing something, but how does a prompt containing "fawn" turn into terrifying Spongebob? [Edit: The prompt didn't contain "fawn", see the replies]
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    There is a photo of a "fawn", I don't think the prompt for the spongebob was published...https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/comment/k2y1ilo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/comment/k2...
  - itishappy 3y ago
    The top comment is not the prompt, it's a different image. "Fawn" generated a fawn. OP's prompt is below: > Create a fuzzy phone picture of a cryptid sighting of spongebob as he runs into the bushes. Spongebob has gone completely insane. He turns his head and creepily looks into the camera as he makes his getaway. There's a thick fog and the scene is dimly lit.
- altcognito 3y ago
  I'm kind of hoping that they adjust it to ask for clarification or find some sort of soft adjustment to make them less problematic rather than just trying to do blind keyword blocking. Of course, I'd love for them to take the approach as well that folks are just going to do what they do, and maybe they'll burn out the novelty and give it a rest.
  - hn_20591249 3y ago
    I asked for an image of The Muppets as the counter-terrorist team from Counter Strike and that got blocked, so "terrorism" is definitely getting picked up understandably.
bilsbie 3y ago
I can’t even get “browse with bing” to work with gpt4. It keeps telling me it can’t browse the web. (I do have it enabled)
- nathanfig 3y ago
  You're probably still using the default, there's a dropdown when you hover over the GPT-4 button at the top.
  - bilsbie 3y ago
    Thanks! I had plug-ins turned on. Didn’t realize you couldn’t do both.
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airstrike 3y ago
inside Bing? hard pass.
- zer0c00ler 3y ago
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anonzzzies 3y ago
I have been generating things for the last 24 hours; it's really nice. I really don't like the discord interface of midjourney.
- ohadron 3y ago
  Same. Can't imagine why they've been using it for so long instead of building a reasonable UX for this use case. I think this will cost them a bunch of traction.
  - kaetemi 3y ago
    The social flow of prompting together with other people is unique when it happens. (Sadly the channels on the main server are now mostly a flood of random people who are ignoring each other.)
  - ilaksh 3y ago
    I believe the fact that it's in Discord is actually the main reason it became so popular so fast. The number one thing that makes something popular is other people already doing it. When you go into a Discord and you are watching hundreds of people use a product in real time, you almost have to try it. When Midjourney first blew up, it was probably one of the most profound moments in marketing of the internet era. As usual, people will happily give you the worst advice possible. There were people telling them to drop the Discord interface on day one. If they had listened to them, they would have killed off their amazing marketing advantage and stunted their growth.
    - GaggiX 3y ago
      Midjourney became famous by being ahead of the competition, using the Discord interface is convenient but it doesn't make them any favour at making the service more popular. >When you go into a Discord and you are watching hundreds of people use a product in real time The ability to use MJ outside of the server is relatively new, so it has not had an impact on awareness of the service.
    - aenvoker 3y ago
isoprophlex 3y ago
More importantly, can anyone use DALL-E 3 inside chatgpt / access it thru the openAI API yet?
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  No
- IanCal 3y ago
  No API access yet, it's not finished rolling out in chatgpt but I think the original launch said it would be over a couple of weeks.
londons_explore 3y ago
If you use the bing chat interface and say "Can you draw me a picture of X?", then it responds with "I’m sorry, but I’m not able to draw pictures. Is there anything else I can help you with?" followed immediately by "Your image is taking a while to generate. Check your image creation progress at Image Creator." Looks like they might perhaps be using a LLM for the chat responses that isn't aware that it has the ability to draw images, and in parallel another model who decides what to draw and show to the user.
- simonw 3y ago
  I try to avoid prompts like "Can you ...?" because they could be interpreted as yes/no answers as opposed to commands to do something. I've been prompting Bing with "Draw me an image of..." or even just "Image: image description" and it's worked well for me so far.
- dhruvdh 3y ago
  I think this has to do with the verb "draw". LLM is just saying it cannot draw. The image generation is likely a function it "calls". The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses, a separate entity from itself.
  - l33t7332273 3y ago
    > The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses I don’t think it’s correct to describe the LLM as “thinking” in this instance, and not even for the normal philosophical objections, but just because I suspect it is a bad heuristic for designing these kinds of prompts.
    - JieJie 3y ago
      As an alternative, I'll ask it to "reckon". For images, simply directing it to "create" an image suffices. https://www.wordnik.com/words/reckon https://www.wordnik.com/words/reckon
- brrrrrm 3y ago
Alifatisk 3y ago
What is Microsofts vision with Bing? It looks like it is slowly transitioning from a search engine to something else.
- shlubbert 3y ago
  Probably another shot at some kind of universal AI assistant since Cortana didn't really take off.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    They wasted the Cortana name too early. I believe if LLMs are when the Cortana namesake was first used, it would likely stick.
- kaetemi 3y ago
  It's quite entertaining and seamless to interact with either way.
- oezi 3y ago
  Bing's AI capabilities are just testing grounds for their Office 365 integration.
- zamadatix 3y ago
  I think they are banking on generative AI displacing traditional search of all types, maybe opening a few new related doors but mostly displacing large use cases of search. "Better enough than Google to convince users to switch" was always too high a bar to meet but being able to say "How do I take the Riemann middle sum using the points {1/2, 1, 3/2, 2} for f(x)=x^3+2" and getting a response built around your specific question instead of the best generic link talking about Riemann sums is definitely the strongest contender I've seen to finally meeting that bar. Users don't want to find the best page about Riemann sums, they just want an answer to their question. The challenge will be "does it do that well enough, accurately enough, and keep a good enough lead to establish itself as the leader to beat for the user base".
atum47 3y ago
Bing is kinda desperate it seems. I went to install GPT on my device yesterday and the first app result was a sponsored one - bing - telling can you can earn prizes by using the app. Don't know if they are more interested in growing the number of users or collecting that sweet data. Probably both.
- abraham 3y ago
  Bing Rewards was launched in 2010 so apparently it's working enough to keep it around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bing#:~:text=Bing%20Rewards%20was%20a%20loyalty,Bing%20searches%20and%20special%20promotions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bing#:~:text=Bing%20....
- rchaud 3y ago
  Google pays Apple $20b every year to remain the default search engine on iOS. Now that's desperate. Where were people going to go, Bing?
  - greenyoda 3y ago
    Google may be afraid that Apple would develop their own search engine, just like they developed their own maps engine and iCloud for email/photos. Apple, with their massive piles of cash, would have the resources to do that.
    - asadotzler 3y ago
      Or buy one, like Bing, and take it from middling to solid.
      - karakot 3y ago
        yes, the same way they went with Siri.
    - zamadatix 3y ago
      Or that Apple simply changes the default Bing, offering something less but greater than 0, and Google loses out on >20 billion in ad revenue.
raesene9 3y ago
This definitely seems like an improvement over previous versions. It can now (at least in some cases) generate correct text for a given image. For example the prompt 'Neon sign saying "Scotland"' generated this https://www.bing.com/images/create/neon-sign-saying-22scotland22/6517fc53711f4fcab4e7d5748498721b?id=RpfDQ3BKyzTqhxnzNiffZA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/neon-sign-saying-22scotla... it's still far from perfect though (it struggled with less common words like Kubernetes) but a step in the right direction.
footlose_3815 3y ago
I'll wait for public release before I log in and engage with Bing. The way Microsoft has been inching their way into my computers and accounts, I want to disconnect from their rampant invasiveness at any-cost.
emptysongglass 3y ago
Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. You can give Bing an existing picture but it will analyze it then turn it into a string description which it then feeds into DALL-E 3. Plus it blurs faces. So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get. And as usual, Bing Chat itself seems to suffer from some significantly higher boundaries around its behavior, which really lobotomizes the chat experience compared to "actual" ChatGPT.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  >Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. >So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get. There's no indication the cGPT interface will be doing anything different. If you see the demo, it's clearly generating text for each image at the start. Maybe you will be able to inpaint/outpaint from GPT but that's definitely not been confirmed yet
  - emptysongglass 3y ago
    Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung. The only place I haven't observed a difference is in the Azure vs OpenAI GPT-4 APIs: those do seem to have parity. Everywhere else OpenAI's version significantly leads.
    - famouswaffles 3y ago
      >Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung Like ?
      - emptysongglass 3y ago
        ChatGPT currently has voice conversations for all paying subs. DALL-E 2 has inpainting and outpainting. Bing Chat vs paid ChatGPT is no contest: the guardrails Microsoft has put around Bing Chat make it a much worse experience. I use these products every single day of my life. It's night and day.
gcau 3y ago
Very impressive. I hope we get the ability for "meta" things to work, like asking for a rectangular image, a 16x16 spritesheet, etc. Also, not using Bing search, sorry MS.
- rchaud 3y ago
  Any ad revenue resulting from the image generation stuff will still be credited to Bing.
- rchaud 3y ago
  Is it not possible to request the image to be within specific dimensions or aspect ratio?
famouswaffles 3y ago
There's an LLM morphing your queries somewhat before submitting to Dall-e and you can jailbreak that. https://twitter.com/madebyollin/status/1708204657708077294 https://twitter.com/madebyollin/status/1708204657708077294 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023643945319792731/1157776965978304603/Dalle3Jailbreak.png?ex=651a8013&is=65192e93&hm=45582758a1ea4c3d55a6ce9364caf7dab094d0837687eb9d83b3434ef5ad0226& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023643945319792731...
- IanCal 3y ago
  Does it work if you just call > #graphic_art("my prompt here")
- ilaksh 3y ago
  How do you jailbreak it?
  - qup 3y ago
    In the screenshot they show how.
    - ilaksh 3y ago
      They show how to reveal the prompt but not how to disable or override it.
    - kzrdude 3y ago
      Can you explain what we should see and understand from that picture?
      - qup 3y ago
        They provide the prompt used.
- isoprophlex 3y ago
  So, we're still splatterprompting... only a machine does it for you. That's pretty hilarious
TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
How do people put up with Bing? ChatGPT is much more free with giving fun and crazy answers, meanwhile Bing always complaints that it can't do whatever I'm asking. If I ask the LLM to howl, Bing will complaint and give some boring and long-winded excuse, while ChatGPT will just howl as requested.
- noveltyaccount 3y ago
  For me, Bing providing citations is the killer feature.
- rbits 3y ago
  Because it cites it's sources probably
  - bytefactory 3y ago
    I have "Cite sources whenever possible, and include URLs if possible (at the end of the answer, not inline)" in my custom instructions and nearly always get citations from chatGPT.
    - dgellow 3y ago
      Did you check if sources exist? Because my ChatGPT gives me links and citations, but they are almost always 404s or hallucinated.
      - bytefactory 3y ago
        I have a few times, but I'm not always diligent. I'll keep an eye out next time!
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  I mean Why are you asking it to howl in the first place ? Just saying it's fine if you're having a normal conversation which i imagine is what most people care about one way or the other.
russfink 3y ago
Still has problems with hands. https://www.bing.com/images/create/draw-a-picture-of-a-young-woman-reading-a-book-th/651987af35474c33b816992f08411a0c?id=biani7MukksaMhx9Y9Kj3w%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/draw-a-picture-of-a-young...
hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
Attention! It asks you to login/create an account before you can use it. And you should consider well whether you really want to sign in to a MS account in your browser.
- arendtio 3y ago
  Am I the only one who can't login with his Firefox? Not just for this use case, but as a general issue.
thambidurai 3y ago
`baby girl playing with a rabbit realistic image` prompt gave `Unsafe image content detected`. anyone else facing the same? looks like the content safety policies are too aggressive. genuinely curious - is it hard for an advanced AI model to differentiate the intention of the prompt and then if it's mature content may be not generate the image?
- simonh 3y ago
  It’s not that the user may have such intent, though they may and it’s hard to see how the AI could tell. It’s more that the AI has no clue what possible juxtapositions it might come up with of baby girl and rabbit, or anything else, might have disturbing implications for humans.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > is it hard for an advanced AI model to differentiate the intention of the prompt and then if it's mature content may be not generate the image? Or, better, if the prompt has nothing NSFW in it and the generated image triggers a detector for NSFW content, dump and then regen the image with a new seed. Displaying an error message that is basically “We generated something that we think is objectionable, even though your prompt called for nothing like that, so you get no photo” is an idiotic design.
- TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
  The filters are incredibly aggressive. I keep asking for fairly mundane images and they still get rejected. Sometimes a prompt will succeed, but running it again gets filtered.
russfink 3y ago
Winner: https://www.bing.com/images/create/paint-a-picture-in-the-style-of-monet-of-a-young-1/65198d427f4e4f8eb518dc3fec42dec8?id=QPTPSay0ObEynIdsB1RZvw%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&form=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/paint-a-picture-in-the-st...
- c0pium 3y ago
  I love that there’s a Jira ticket in someone’s backlog that says “teach the model how many hands humans have”.
  - ftxbro 3y ago
    Those tickets are only in companies that haven't learned the bitter lesson.
  - eternauta3k 3y ago
    It's a corollary of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule
- Nursie 3y ago
  I asked it for “A hand with the correct number of fingers”, and it got it right, in three out of four of the returned images!
szmerdi 3y ago
I enjoy playing around with https://ideogram.ai https://ideogram.ai much more. Correct spelling was always there and you can mix and match with others' prompts: the image generation experience is a collective creative activity. Bing is desperately adding new features in the hope of finding the "one feature to lure them all", but Bing is not the most effective platform for these generative models.
- MrNeon 3y ago
  A quick test generating r/imsorryjon style Garfields shows ideogram is far from matching DALL-E 3's capabilities.
  - stuckkeys 3y ago
    No joke. The word match is absolutely crazy.
sylware 3y ago
I tried the prompt but nothing happened. Joining is mandatory?
bragr 3y ago
Seems if you put just about any real person, even notable public figures, it pops up as a violation of the content policy, even though their policy doesn't say that explicitly. Perhaps it falls under "Deception, disinformation, and inauthentic activity" or their vague catchall "We prohibit the use of Image Creator for any other activity that significantly harms other individuals, organizations, or society" I can squint and see why they wouldn't want my "Cowboy Al Gore rolls coal at a tractor pull" but I don't see how "Joe Bidden inauguration but wearing an orange suit" is going to bring down society. It shot me down for "angela merkel toasting beer glasses" despite her doing that all the time.
- bragr 3y ago
  If you go historical it doesn't seem to mind: JFK as an alien: https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-we-choose-to-go-to-the-moon-speech-but-the-pre/65199dbb100345c59f722c324c2232e7?id=cpk3c3GQku1Aw0TSQVY%2bIQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-we-choose-to-go-to-th... JFK and Fidel Castro at a fictional peace conference: https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-and-castro-meeting-at-the-reykjavik-peace-conf/65199eca621c48c882b5f21a466eed61?id=%2bvUtyehpq6k9OUnEdwLcWw%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-and-castro-meeting-at...
  - Jackson__ 3y ago
    If you go too historical, it minds again. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37651874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37651874 Also just tried "Julius Caesar eating a salad" and it's still banned it appears.
jquery 3y ago
Prompt: "an anime girl making a peace sign and smiling. She is wearing a thick orange hoodie with the hood pulled up." Result (x3): "Unsafe image content detected Your image generations are not displayed because we detected unsafe content in the images based on our content policy. Please try creating again with another prompt." The 4th attempt gave me this which is actually pretty good https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-anime-girl-making-a-peace-sign-and-smiling-she/65199c060aa445e388119310dbd0709c?id=3DKlSI3mt3Li7JDvOE9n5Q%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-anime-girl-making-a-pe... the restrictions on this are pretty extreme.
- dgellow 3y ago
  It’s understandable, you can be sure everybody is trying to abuse their system and it would be a PR disaster if it is used to generate adult or illegal content.
- Jackson__ 3y ago
  I tried the same prompt with "boy" instead of girl, and got only a single image with each try. Then I tried it with "man" and got 3 images for each try. Guess at least now we can rank society by how NSFW people are; simply with gender/age, thanks OpenAI.
mmanfrin 3y ago
"Elon Musk" is a banned phrase.
LorenDB 3y ago
It managed to make Tux look right: https://www.bing.com/images/create/tux-the-penguin-lounging-on-the-beach-eating-an-ic/65199e04ce474ce683fa31c68fdd935b https://www.bing.com/images/create/tux-the-penguin-lounging-...
willsmith72 3y ago
You can use it without edge what a miracle
willsmith72 3y ago
Is there an easy way to fix broken text? I thought dalle 3 was supposed to be better with that
trebligdivad 3y ago
Perhaps more AI on the wait time, '5 min wait'...from about an hour now.
me_bx 3y ago
Accessing the website from an EU location, the small text in the sign-up form says: > You will receive emails about Microsoft Rewards, which include offers about Microsoft and partner products. You will also receive notifications about Bing Image Creator. By continuing, you agree to the Rewards Terms and Image Creator Terms below. How can this be seen as compliant with GDPR?
ChrisClark 3y ago
It won't stop generating girls with large breasts and huge cleavage. If I include small breasts in the prompt, it blocks it due to adult content. I'm getting to get it to be more modest, not less!
HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
Nice! Big improvement over DALL-E 2. "ginger tabby cat with ginger eyes, and black cat with green eyes, big wave surfing each on their own surfboard, photographed by a drone" https://imgur.com/uKbkoke https://imgur.com/uKbkoke
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
  "handsome 60 year old man inspecting a pile of coins with a magnifying glass, in an isolated hut in the forest, unaware of cthulhu looking in through the open door, ultrarealistic" https://imgur.com/rlqMbXN https://imgur.com/rlqMbXN Default image quality/style leaves a bit to be desired, but it's doing a great job of paying attention to the details of the prompt.
TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
FYI: if you generate a lot of images the sidebar won't retain all of them and there doesn't seem to be a place where you can view your full history, so be sure to save any images you want to retain. You can still recover images by visiting the link directly in your browser history.
callalex 3y ago
Can it generate QR links to malware downloads? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/bing-chat-responses-infiltrated-by-ads-pushing-malware/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/bing-chat-res...
bko 3y ago
It doesn't specify the model but I don't think its DALL-E 3. It doesn't specify exactly, but the classic "horse riding an astronaut" test fails and instead shows an astronaut riding a horse. And the DALL-E from openai with paid credits is DALL-E 2 I think it works really well with comics generation though, although imitating R. Crumb seems to have triggered its "unsafe" content. I wish we stopped using this term "unsafe" and just judge it by "is it what is being asked".
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bufferoverflow 3y ago
It's not so good at different painter styles. I get roughly the same results. Midjourney is quite good at that.

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dangero 3y ago

How is Bing getting this before full rollout to all GPTPlus users?

Kiro 3y ago
Microsoft owning 49% of OpenAI probably helps.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  They don't actually own 49% of Open AI yet. The deal was $10B for 75% of Open AI's profits until Microsoft recouped this investment. After the investment is recouped, then they have 49% of Open AI. The deal included access to all of Open AI's model.
  - dooraven 3y ago
    that seems like an awful deal for OpenAI. Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion?
    - morelisp 3y ago
      If they can't pay it back, that seems like an awful deal for MS, and a great deal for OpenAI.
      - conradfr 3y ago
        Of course it's "only" 10% of their cash reserve anyway.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion? By building relationships with government officials and media, and using X-risk fearmongering to lobby for regulation that inhibits competition and locks in their dominant position.
  - YetAnotherNick 3y ago
    No, after the 100*investment is recouped, MS will own 0% of openAI. Now they own 49%.
famouswaffles 3y ago
The same reason Bing was running GPT-4 before Open AI even acknowledged the existence of the model. The $10B deal gives Microsoft exclusive access to all Open AI models.
- dangero 3y ago
  Feels like a breaking issue for GPTPlus subscription plan when Bing has better features for free
  - throwuwu 3y ago
    Feature. Once the multimodal rollout is complete Plus will have image gen, image recognition, voice recognition and voice gen all integrated with the chat capabilities so you can combine those features in novel ways like the link Brockman retweeted showing ChatGPT acting as a language tutor and conversation partner.
    - famouswaffles 3y ago
      To be fair you can do all that from Bing Chat too(image/voice recognition and generation). And plugins are coming to it too. The downsides with Bing currently are: 1. If you're not prepared to be civil to a language model, you're not going to have a good time. 2. The image input feature isn't quite the same. Feels like descriptions are bolted in from a separate (GPT-4 V unless the Bing CTO was lying) model so it's lossy in a way straight from GPT-4 V isn't 3. Voice recognition and TTS are good but worse than what Open AI is currently using. Perhaps they'll switch since the TTS is new ? But idk. It's also not hands off like Open AI have designed their implementation.
      - gowings97 3y ago
        Still waiting to gain Chat GPT-4 Plus image upload access myself, but the Bing image ingest / recognition is vastly inferior to what I've experienced myself (trying to use Bing's image upload capabilities/recognition) vs. what I've seen on Twitter the last few days with Chat GPT-4's image upload feature / recognition capabilities.

GaggiX 3y ago

Is it now only Dalle 3? I remember it was a mix Dalle 2 and 3 like two days ago.

anonzzzies 3y ago
It seems if it can do text properly it's dall-e 3. I'm not sure but that's what people are saying. For me the hands are much better than with 2 as well. Only folded hands have issues in the 100s of images I made.
ilaksh 3y ago
It might still have some DALL-E 2 in there for requests that it deems unworthy of 3. I had incredible results asking for architectural drawings earlier. Then a few minutes ago, I broke down and started prompting for supermodels. It did a terrific job the first few times. But after like three of them getting blocked (I didn't actually ask for anything inappropriate) it starting giving me something that looked like unmitigated Stable Diffusion 1.5. Lol.

skilled 3y ago

> 2 hr wait > Creating new images can take time > Because you're out of boosts, image generation may take longer than usual. Just how much money is Microsoft burning up by offering all these features? I mean, last time I checked[0] - being this generous didn't really do anything for Bing, did it? Is this "just because we can" or is it genuinely profitable for them? [0]: https://searchengineland.com/new-bing-google-market-share-six-months-430840 https://searchengineland.com/new-bing-google-market-share-si...

dalf 3y ago
This job offer suggests a lot: https://jobs.careers.microsoft.com/global/en/job/1627555/Principal-Program-Manager-Nuclear-Technology https://jobs.careers.microsoft.com/global/en/job/1627555/Pri... Found on Slashdot: https://m.slashdot.org/story/419681 https://m.slashdot.org/story/419681
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  So those GPUs are thirsty... It would look pretty bad if it comes out these models are exacerbating climate change...especially after all of old Bill's climate rhetoric and everyone bashing crypto for the last 5+ years about the same thing.
  - pohuing 3y ago
    > especially after all of old Bill's climate rhetoric and everyone bashing crypto for the last 5+ years about the same thing. Gates hasn't been leading MS for a long time now.
- Culonavirus 3y ago
  A million dollars in 4 years, that's pretty crazy. Good for them.
lstamour 3y ago
Maybe it’s a sales tool for business adoption of Bing, that they’re applying to consumers? And they need the traffic and usage numbers, if they get those their advertising business can sit on top of it and profit.

littlestymaar 3y ago

I love how the French internationalization of title of that page is “Créer art de mots avec IA”, which is almost at the “all your base are belong to us” of level of terrible translation. Given that is probably has been AI-translated, it doesn't really inspire confidence about the AI product on this page if you're a French speaker.

speedgoose 3y ago
Indeed the translation is very poor. I just tried the Micrsooft on translator and the translation quality is descent. Very weird.
GaggiX 3y ago
I remember the page presenting the AI chatbot used by Bing, the translations there were also terrible, even at a character level, with random CAPS, and to be honest still today I have no idea how it was possible.
fabioborellini 3y ago
Finnish translation is a horrible word-by-word thing, too. That does not work at all translating to a language that uses very few prepositions. Words like “for” and “to” get replaced with ones from a totally different context. The thing reminds me of machine translations from around 2000. Sadly the new features on Windows, like forced Onedrive sync, also use similarly bad translations. Phishing emails have nowadays better Finnish than Windows does.
- eMSF 3y ago
  The Finnish caption is quite a bit worse than "all your base are belong to us" type of invalid grammar. Translating it back, even with best intentions (ignoring the naive attempt of translating "from" in place) it reads "Create images from AI generated words".
coder543 3y ago
Why would you blame AI translation? Look at how ChatGPT-4 handles a direct translation request: https://chat.openai.com/share/8211a1f6-552b-4bf6-8f9c-bcbeb8dd0b15 https://chat.openai.com/share/8211a1f6-552b-4bf6-8f9c-bcbeb8... Or how it talks about a set of existing translations: https://chat.openai.com/share/299e40ce-806b-4f0e-a889-cb2ee2fd3501 https://chat.openai.com/share/299e40ce-806b-4f0e-a889-cb2ee2... French isn't a language I know very well, but my experience using "AI" to translate Spanish (which I actually do know somewhat) and other languages is more positive than Google Translate. A few months ago, I did side by side tests translating into English using ChatGPT-4 and Google Translate, and it's not even a contest. It's not clear where Microsoft is getting these bad translations, but it seems like they would be less terrible if they were translated by ChatGPT-4.

hn_20591249 3y ago

As with most of these tools, it appears that it is reasonably easy to get it to generate some truly hilarious/disturbing stuff, probably not for long: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/dalle_3_is_leaving_me_speechless_look_at_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/dalle_3_is...

rwmj 3y ago
I may be missing something, but how does a prompt containing "fawn" turn into terrifying Spongebob? [Edit: The prompt didn't contain "fawn", see the replies]
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  There is a photo of a "fawn", I don't think the prompt for the spongebob was published...https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/comment/k2y1ilo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/comment/k2...
- itishappy 3y ago
  The top comment is not the prompt, it's a different image. "Fawn" generated a fawn. OP's prompt is below: > Create a fuzzy phone picture of a cryptid sighting of spongebob as he runs into the bushes. Spongebob has gone completely insane. He turns his head and creepily looks into the camera as he makes his getaway. There's a thick fog and the scene is dimly lit.
altcognito 3y ago
I'm kind of hoping that they adjust it to ask for clarification or find some sort of soft adjustment to make them less problematic rather than just trying to do blind keyword blocking. Of course, I'd love for them to take the approach as well that folks are just going to do what they do, and maybe they'll burn out the novelty and give it a rest.
- hn_20591249 3y ago
  I asked for an image of The Muppets as the counter-terrorist team from Counter Strike and that got blocked, so "terrorism" is definitely getting picked up understandably.

bilsbie 3y ago

I can’t even get “browse with bing” to work with gpt4. It keeps telling me it can’t browse the web. (I do have it enabled)

nathanfig 3y ago
You're probably still using the default, there's a dropdown when you hover over the GPT-4 button at the top.
- bilsbie 3y ago
  Thanks! I had plug-ins turned on. Didn’t realize you couldn’t do both.

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airstrike 3y ago

inside Bing? hard pass.

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anonzzzies 3y ago

I have been generating things for the last 24 hours; it's really nice. I really don't like the discord interface of midjourney.

ohadron 3y ago
Same. Can't imagine why they've been using it for so long instead of building a reasonable UX for this use case. I think this will cost them a bunch of traction.
- kaetemi 3y ago
  The social flow of prompting together with other people is unique when it happens. (Sadly the channels on the main server are now mostly a flood of random people who are ignoring each other.)
- ilaksh 3y ago
  I believe the fact that it's in Discord is actually the main reason it became so popular so fast. The number one thing that makes something popular is other people already doing it. When you go into a Discord and you are watching hundreds of people use a product in real time, you almost have to try it. When Midjourney first blew up, it was probably one of the most profound moments in marketing of the internet era. As usual, people will happily give you the worst advice possible. There were people telling them to drop the Discord interface on day one. If they had listened to them, they would have killed off their amazing marketing advantage and stunted their growth.
  - GaggiX 3y ago
    Midjourney became famous by being ahead of the competition, using the Discord interface is convenient but it doesn't make them any favour at making the service more popular. >When you go into a Discord and you are watching hundreds of people use a product in real time The ability to use MJ outside of the server is relatively new, so it has not had an impact on awareness of the service.
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isoprophlex 3y ago

More importantly, can anyone use DALL-E 3 inside chatgpt / access it thru the openAI API yet?

famouswaffles 3y ago
No
IanCal 3y ago
No API access yet, it's not finished rolling out in chatgpt but I think the original launch said it would be over a couple of weeks.

londons_explore 3y ago

If you use the bing chat interface and say "Can you draw me a picture of X?", then it responds with "I’m sorry, but I’m not able to draw pictures. Is there anything else I can help you with?" followed immediately by "Your image is taking a while to generate. Check your image creation progress at Image Creator." Looks like they might perhaps be using a LLM for the chat responses that isn't aware that it has the ability to draw images, and in parallel another model who decides what to draw and show to the user.

simonw 3y ago
I try to avoid prompts like "Can you ...?" because they could be interpreted as yes/no answers as opposed to commands to do something. I've been prompting Bing with "Draw me an image of..." or even just "Image: image description" and it's worked well for me so far.
dhruvdh 3y ago
I think this has to do with the verb "draw". LLM is just saying it cannot draw. The image generation is likely a function it "calls". The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses, a separate entity from itself.
- l33t7332273 3y ago
  > The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses I don’t think it’s correct to describe the LLM as “thinking” in this instance, and not even for the normal philosophical objections, but just because I suspect it is a bad heuristic for designing these kinds of prompts.
  - JieJie 3y ago
    As an alternative, I'll ask it to "reckon". For images, simply directing it to "create" an image suffices. https://www.wordnik.com/words/reckon https://www.wordnik.com/words/reckon
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Alifatisk 3y ago

What is Microsofts vision with Bing? It looks like it is slowly transitioning from a search engine to something else.

shlubbert 3y ago
Probably another shot at some kind of universal AI assistant since Cortana didn't really take off.
- pixl97 3y ago
  They wasted the Cortana name too early. I believe if LLMs are when the Cortana namesake was first used, it would likely stick.
kaetemi 3y ago
It's quite entertaining and seamless to interact with either way.
oezi 3y ago
Bing's AI capabilities are just testing grounds for their Office 365 integration.
zamadatix 3y ago
I think they are banking on generative AI displacing traditional search of all types, maybe opening a few new related doors but mostly displacing large use cases of search. "Better enough than Google to convince users to switch" was always too high a bar to meet but being able to say "How do I take the Riemann middle sum using the points {1/2, 1, 3/2, 2} for f(x)=x^3+2" and getting a response built around your specific question instead of the best generic link talking about Riemann sums is definitely the strongest contender I've seen to finally meeting that bar. Users don't want to find the best page about Riemann sums, they just want an answer to their question. The challenge will be "does it do that well enough, accurately enough, and keep a good enough lead to establish itself as the leader to beat for the user base".

atum47 3y ago

Bing is kinda desperate it seems. I went to install GPT on my device yesterday and the first app result was a sponsored one - bing - telling can you can earn prizes by using the app. Don't know if they are more interested in growing the number of users or collecting that sweet data. Probably both.

abraham 3y ago
Bing Rewards was launched in 2010 so apparently it's working enough to keep it around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bing#:~:text=Bing%20Rewards%20was%20a%20loyalty,Bing%20searches%20and%20special%20promotions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bing#:~:text=Bing%20....
rchaud 3y ago
Google pays Apple $20b every year to remain the default search engine on iOS. Now that's desperate. Where were people going to go, Bing?
- greenyoda 3y ago
  Google may be afraid that Apple would develop their own search engine, just like they developed their own maps engine and iCloud for email/photos. Apple, with their massive piles of cash, would have the resources to do that.
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    Or buy one, like Bing, and take it from middling to solid.
    - karakot 3y ago
      yes, the same way they went with Siri.
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    Or that Apple simply changes the default Bing, offering something less but greater than 0, and Google loses out on >20 billion in ad revenue.

raesene9 3y ago

This definitely seems like an improvement over previous versions. It can now (at least in some cases) generate correct text for a given image. For example the prompt 'Neon sign saying "Scotland"' generated this https://www.bing.com/images/create/neon-sign-saying-22scotland22/6517fc53711f4fcab4e7d5748498721b?id=RpfDQ3BKyzTqhxnzNiffZA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/neon-sign-saying-22scotla... it's still far from perfect though (it struggled with less common words like Kubernetes) but a step in the right direction.

footlose_3815 3y ago

I'll wait for public release before I log in and engage with Bing. The way Microsoft has been inching their way into my computers and accounts, I want to disconnect from their rampant invasiveness at any-cost.

emptysongglass 3y ago

Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. You can give Bing an existing picture but it will analyze it then turn it into a string description which it then feeds into DALL-E 3. Plus it blurs faces. So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get. And as usual, Bing Chat itself seems to suffer from some significantly higher boundaries around its behavior, which really lobotomizes the chat experience compared to "actual" ChatGPT.

famouswaffles 3y ago
>Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. >So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get. There's no indication the cGPT interface will be doing anything different. If you see the demo, it's clearly generating text for each image at the start. Maybe you will be able to inpaint/outpaint from GPT but that's definitely not been confirmed yet
- emptysongglass 3y ago
  Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung. The only place I haven't observed a difference is in the Azure vs OpenAI GPT-4 APIs: those do seem to have parity. Everywhere else OpenAI's version significantly leads.
  - famouswaffles 3y ago
    >Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung Like ?
    - emptysongglass 3y ago
      ChatGPT currently has voice conversations for all paying subs. DALL-E 2 has inpainting and outpainting. Bing Chat vs paid ChatGPT is no contest: the guardrails Microsoft has put around Bing Chat make it a much worse experience. I use these products every single day of my life. It's night and day.

gcau 3y ago

Very impressive. I hope we get the ability for "meta" things to work, like asking for a rectangular image, a 16x16 spritesheet, etc. Also, not using Bing search, sorry MS.

rchaud 3y ago
Any ad revenue resulting from the image generation stuff will still be credited to Bing.
rchaud 3y ago
Is it not possible to request the image to be within specific dimensions or aspect ratio?

famouswaffles 3y ago

There's an LLM morphing your queries somewhat before submitting to Dall-e and you can jailbreak that. https://twitter.com/madebyollin/status/1708204657708077294 https://twitter.com/madebyollin/status/1708204657708077294 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023643945319792731/1157776965978304603/Dalle3Jailbreak.png?ex=651a8013&is=65192e93&hm=45582758a1ea4c3d55a6ce9364caf7dab094d0837687eb9d83b3434ef5ad0226& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023643945319792731...

IanCal 3y ago
Does it work if you just call > #graphic_art("my prompt here")
ilaksh 3y ago
How do you jailbreak it?
- qup 3y ago
  In the screenshot they show how.
  - ilaksh 3y ago
    They show how to reveal the prompt but not how to disable or override it.
  - kzrdude 3y ago
    Can you explain what we should see and understand from that picture?
    - qup 3y ago
      They provide the prompt used.
isoprophlex 3y ago
So, we're still splatterprompting... only a machine does it for you. That's pretty hilarious

TheAceOfHearts 3y ago

How do people put up with Bing? ChatGPT is much more free with giving fun and crazy answers, meanwhile Bing always complaints that it can't do whatever I'm asking. If I ask the LLM to howl, Bing will complaint and give some boring and long-winded excuse, while ChatGPT will just howl as requested.

noveltyaccount 3y ago
For me, Bing providing citations is the killer feature.
rbits 3y ago
Because it cites it's sources probably
- bytefactory 3y ago
  I have "Cite sources whenever possible, and include URLs if possible (at the end of the answer, not inline)" in my custom instructions and nearly always get citations from chatGPT.
  - dgellow 3y ago
    Did you check if sources exist? Because my ChatGPT gives me links and citations, but they are almost always 404s or hallucinated.
    - bytefactory 3y ago
      I have a few times, but I'm not always diligent. I'll keep an eye out next time!
famouswaffles 3y ago
I mean Why are you asking it to howl in the first place ? Just saying it's fine if you're having a normal conversation which i imagine is what most people care about one way or the other.

russfink 3y ago

Still has problems with hands. https://www.bing.com/images/create/draw-a-picture-of-a-young-woman-reading-a-book-th/651987af35474c33b816992f08411a0c?id=biani7MukksaMhx9Y9Kj3w%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/draw-a-picture-of-a-young...

hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago

Attention! It asks you to login/create an account before you can use it. And you should consider well whether you really want to sign in to a MS account in your browser.

arendtio 3y ago
Am I the only one who can't login with his Firefox? Not just for this use case, but as a general issue.

thambidurai 3y ago

`baby girl playing with a rabbit realistic image` prompt gave `Unsafe image content detected`. anyone else facing the same? looks like the content safety policies are too aggressive. genuinely curious - is it hard for an advanced AI model to differentiate the intention of the prompt and then if it's mature content may be not generate the image?

simonh 3y ago
It’s not that the user may have such intent, though they may and it’s hard to see how the AI could tell. It’s more that the AI has no clue what possible juxtapositions it might come up with of baby girl and rabbit, or anything else, might have disturbing implications for humans.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> is it hard for an advanced AI model to differentiate the intention of the prompt and then if it's mature content may be not generate the image? Or, better, if the prompt has nothing NSFW in it and the generated image triggers a detector for NSFW content, dump and then regen the image with a new seed. Displaying an error message that is basically “We generated something that we think is objectionable, even though your prompt called for nothing like that, so you get no photo” is an idiotic design.
TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
The filters are incredibly aggressive. I keep asking for fairly mundane images and they still get rejected. Sometimes a prompt will succeed, but running it again gets filtered.

russfink 3y ago

Winner: https://www.bing.com/images/create/paint-a-picture-in-the-style-of-monet-of-a-young-1/65198d427f4e4f8eb518dc3fec42dec8?id=QPTPSay0ObEynIdsB1RZvw%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&form=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/paint-a-picture-in-the-st...

c0pium 3y ago
I love that there’s a Jira ticket in someone’s backlog that says “teach the model how many hands humans have”.
- ftxbro 3y ago
  Those tickets are only in companies that haven't learned the bitter lesson.
- eternauta3k 3y ago
  It's a corollary of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule
Nursie 3y ago
I asked it for “A hand with the correct number of fingers”, and it got it right, in three out of four of the returned images!

szmerdi 3y ago

I enjoy playing around with https://ideogram.ai https://ideogram.ai much more. Correct spelling was always there and you can mix and match with others' prompts: the image generation experience is a collective creative activity. Bing is desperately adding new features in the hope of finding the "one feature to lure them all", but Bing is not the most effective platform for these generative models.

MrNeon 3y ago
A quick test generating r/imsorryjon style Garfields shows ideogram is far from matching DALL-E 3's capabilities.
- stuckkeys 3y ago
  No joke. The word match is absolutely crazy.

sylware 3y ago

I tried the prompt but nothing happened. Joining is mandatory?

bragr 3y ago

Seems if you put just about any real person, even notable public figures, it pops up as a violation of the content policy, even though their policy doesn't say that explicitly. Perhaps it falls under "Deception, disinformation, and inauthentic activity" or their vague catchall "We prohibit the use of Image Creator for any other activity that significantly harms other individuals, organizations, or society" I can squint and see why they wouldn't want my "Cowboy Al Gore rolls coal at a tractor pull" but I don't see how "Joe Bidden inauguration but wearing an orange suit" is going to bring down society. It shot me down for "angela merkel toasting beer glasses" despite her doing that all the time.

bragr 3y ago
If you go historical it doesn't seem to mind: JFK as an alien: https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-we-choose-to-go-to-the-moon-speech-but-the-pre/65199dbb100345c59f722c324c2232e7?id=cpk3c3GQku1Aw0TSQVY%2bIQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-we-choose-to-go-to-th... JFK and Fidel Castro at a fictional peace conference: https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-and-castro-meeting-at-the-reykjavik-peace-conf/65199eca621c48c882b5f21a466eed61?id=%2bvUtyehpq6k9OUnEdwLcWw%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay https://www.bing.com/images/create/jfk-and-castro-meeting-at...
- Jackson__ 3y ago
  If you go too historical, it minds again. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37651874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37651874 Also just tried "Julius Caesar eating a salad" and it's still banned it appears.

jquery 3y ago

Prompt: "an anime girl making a peace sign and smiling. She is wearing a thick orange hoodie with the hood pulled up." Result (x3): "Unsafe image content detected Your image generations are not displayed because we detected unsafe content in the images based on our content policy. Please try creating again with another prompt." The 4th attempt gave me this which is actually pretty good https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-anime-girl-making-a-peace-sign-and-smiling-she/65199c060aa445e388119310dbd0709c?id=3DKlSI3mt3Li7JDvOE9n5Q%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP https://www.bing.com/images/create/an-anime-girl-making-a-pe... the restrictions on this are pretty extreme.

dgellow 3y ago
It’s understandable, you can be sure everybody is trying to abuse their system and it would be a PR disaster if it is used to generate adult or illegal content.
Jackson__ 3y ago
I tried the same prompt with "boy" instead of girl, and got only a single image with each try. Then I tried it with "man" and got 3 images for each try. Guess at least now we can rank society by how NSFW people are; simply with gender/age, thanks OpenAI.

mmanfrin 3y ago

"Elon Musk" is a banned phrase.

LorenDB 3y ago

It managed to make Tux look right: https://www.bing.com/images/create/tux-the-penguin-lounging-on-the-beach-eating-an-ic/65199e04ce474ce683fa31c68fdd935b https://www.bing.com/images/create/tux-the-penguin-lounging-...

willsmith72 3y ago

You can use it without edge what a miracle

willsmith72 3y ago

Is there an easy way to fix broken text? I thought dalle 3 was supposed to be better with that

trebligdivad 3y ago

Perhaps more AI on the wait time, '5 min wait'...from about an hour now.

me_bx 3y ago

Accessing the website from an EU location, the small text in the sign-up form says: > You will receive emails about Microsoft Rewards, which include offers about Microsoft and partner products. You will also receive notifications about Bing Image Creator. By continuing, you agree to the Rewards Terms and Image Creator Terms below. How can this be seen as compliant with GDPR?

ChrisClark 3y ago

It won't stop generating girls with large breasts and huge cleavage. If I include small breasts in the prompt, it blocks it due to adult content. I'm getting to get it to be more modest, not less!

HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago

Nice! Big improvement over DALL-E 2. "ginger tabby cat with ginger eyes, and black cat with green eyes, big wave surfing each on their own surfboard, photographed by a drone" https://imgur.com/uKbkoke https://imgur.com/uKbkoke

HarHarVeryFunny 3y ago
"handsome 60 year old man inspecting a pile of coins with a magnifying glass, in an isolated hut in the forest, unaware of cthulhu looking in through the open door, ultrarealistic" https://imgur.com/rlqMbXN https://imgur.com/rlqMbXN Default image quality/style leaves a bit to be desired, but it's doing a great job of paying attention to the details of the prompt.

TheAceOfHearts 3y ago

FYI: if you generate a lot of images the sidebar won't retain all of them and there doesn't seem to be a place where you can view your full history, so be sure to save any images you want to retain. You can still recover images by visiting the link directly in your browser history.

callalex 3y ago

Can it generate QR links to malware downloads? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/bing-chat-responses-infiltrated-by-ads-pushing-malware/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/bing-chat-res...

bko 3y ago

It doesn't specify the model but I don't think its DALL-E 3. It doesn't specify exactly, but the classic "horse riding an astronaut" test fails and instead shows an astronaut riding a horse. And the DALL-E from openai with paid credits is DALL-E 2 I think it works really well with comics generation though, although imitating R. Crumb seems to have triggered its "unsafe" content. I wish we stopped using this term "unsafe" and just judge it by "is it what is being asked".

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bufferoverflow 3y ago

It's not so good at different painter styles. I get roughly the same results. Midjourney is quite good at that.