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IIRC only version 15 has USB-C support, so you're missing being able to charge (... without having to carry around a separate charger that is incompatible with

IIRC only version 15 has USB-C support, so you're missing being able to charge (... without having to carry around a separate charger that is incompatible with everything else out there. And you'll need to take a charger with you everywhere as the battery on a 3 or 4 year old phone is probably at or close to 1000 cycles)

sambazi 3y ago
brilliant play to make convergence to the standard a major buying decision
- close04 3y ago
  The decision is almost never iPhone vs. nothing, or iPhone vs. Android. It’s iPhone 15 vs. iPhone <15. Most recent (if not all) of the sales driven by this feature alone are probably canibalized from other Apple models so it doesn’t look like a “play”.
bayindirh 3y ago
I have a Sony made cable which supports both Lightning and MicroUSB, and it's MFI certified. I carry an Spigen combo 48W USB-C/USB-A charger, said cable and a 2M USB-C cable, and I can charge every electronic thing I have on me on any trip. Yes, Having all USB-C is nice, but a USB-C iPhone won't change anything for me, since I need to have a MicroUSB cable with me, anyway.
basisword 3y ago
You’d think people carried around half a dozen devices and charging cables were like hose pipes the way people complain about carrying them. An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has. I’m guessing 99% of people charge their phone at night and that charger rarely moves from its position.
- wildrhythms 3y ago
  When I'm traveling I don't want to carry around multiple cables when I don't have to. I've been using Android for years because I can travel with a single charging brick, a single usb-c male to male cable, and I can charge everything: my phone, my laptop, my battery bank, and I can use the same cable to charge between those devices too. It's bliss.
  - matwood 3y ago
    You never charge anything at the same time? The best travel charge solution I have found is a stand that unfolds and can charge AirPods, a phone, and my Apple Watch all at once.
- fakedang 3y ago
  > An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has. It is. It's another thing I need to keep in mind when packing up when I frequently travel, it's a liability when it gets lost or damaged because then I'll have to go looking around for a store which stocks Lightning cables, and it's an issue when I'm visiting someone and need to juice up, and he/she doesn't have the cable with them. If I do get a replacement, I have to make sure I'm not being ripped off because the high price of a Lightning charger makes it very appealing to fraudsters selling duplicate shit online or in stores. The old connector and USB-C are both ubiquitous enough that even if I end up somehow in a remote village, I'll find someone a walk or drive away with a reasonably working charger for sale.
- sp0rk 3y ago
  > You’d think people carried around half a dozen devices and charging cables were like hose pipes the way people complain about carrying them. An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has It's probably a real problem if you're bothered by the frequency of complaints about it.
- lazide 3y ago
  It’s been an irritating problem for me when I travel. I always either have too many cables, or somehow missed the one I need. On the device set I bring, I have 5 different types of cables. Anker makes some nice cables with adapters built in, which helps. They don’t handle high power draw though (laptop, power bank). USB-B (toothbrush) Microusb (garmin GPS tracker) Lightning (AirPods, iPhone) USB-C (power brick, laptop) Garmin watch charge cable And of course, some of these are easy to find USB-C ended cables for, others not and it’s USB-A
  - tzs 3y ago
    > Anker makes some nice cables with adapters built in, which helps E.g., [1]. Micro-B with captive USB C and Lightning adapters. [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07215381G/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07215381G/
    - lazide 3y ago
      That’s the one!
matwood 3y ago
> without having to carry around a separate charger Separate cable. I've only used usb-c charger bricks for years.
- JimDabell 3y ago
  You don’t even need a separate cable! Every iPhone released in the past six years, including the iPhone 11 Pro Max, has supported wireless charging using the same standard Qi protocol that other phones use to charge.
  - orev 3y ago
    People complaining about carrying around an extra (small, lightweight) cable are definitely not traveling with the hockey puck you need for Qi charging. Size and weight matters when traveling, and Qi chargers simply never get near the travel bags. Multiple 12 inch cables are far superior (space/weight wise)
    - matwood 3y ago
      Something like this works very well for travel. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKPCXZQY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKPCXZQY
      - orev 3y ago
        That does look pretty nice, but it’s still much bigger and heavier than a few 12” cables (and far more expensive)
DougBTX 3y ago
> a separate charger After the last round of EU charger regs, it was just a cable!
- tzs 3y ago
  It was just a cable long before the EU regulations. Apple mobile devices have been chargeable from a USB port starting with the 3rd generation iPod introduced in 2003, which was around 7 years before the EU regulation requiring USB micro-B chargers.
HumblyTossed 3y ago
Cable. Not charger. And I usually have multiple cables so I don’t have to charge my devices linearly in time.
- HPsquared 3y ago
  Don't even need a full cable, just an adapter.
WithinReason 3y ago
Just get a universal cable for $30 and save $970: https://rollingsquare.com/collections/cables https://rollingsquare.com/collections/cables

sambazi 3y ago

brilliant play to make convergence to the standard a major buying decision

close04 3y ago
The decision is almost never iPhone vs. nothing, or iPhone vs. Android. It’s iPhone 15 vs. iPhone <15. Most recent (if not all) of the sales driven by this feature alone are probably canibalized from other Apple models so it doesn’t look like a “play”.

bayindirh 3y ago

I have a Sony made cable which supports both Lightning and MicroUSB, and it's MFI certified. I carry an Spigen combo 48W USB-C/USB-A charger, said cable and a 2M USB-C cable, and I can charge every electronic thing I have on me on any trip. Yes, Having all USB-C is nice, but a USB-C iPhone won't change anything for me, since I need to have a MicroUSB cable with me, anyway.

basisword 3y ago

You’d think people carried around half a dozen devices and charging cables were like hose pipes the way people complain about carrying them. An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has. I’m guessing 99% of people charge their phone at night and that charger rarely moves from its position.

wildrhythms 3y ago
When I'm traveling I don't want to carry around multiple cables when I don't have to. I've been using Android for years because I can travel with a single charging brick, a single usb-c male to male cable, and I can charge everything: my phone, my laptop, my battery bank, and I can use the same cable to charge between those devices too. It's bliss.
- matwood 3y ago
  You never charge anything at the same time? The best travel charge solution I have found is a stand that unfolds and can charge AirPods, a phone, and my Apple Watch all at once.
fakedang 3y ago
> An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has. It is. It's another thing I need to keep in mind when packing up when I frequently travel, it's a liability when it gets lost or damaged because then I'll have to go looking around for a store which stocks Lightning cables, and it's an issue when I'm visiting someone and need to juice up, and he/she doesn't have the cable with them. If I do get a replacement, I have to make sure I'm not being ripped off because the high price of a Lightning charger makes it very appealing to fraudsters selling duplicate shit online or in stores. The old connector and USB-C are both ubiquitous enough that even if I end up somehow in a remote village, I'll find someone a walk or drive away with a reasonably working charger for sale.
sp0rk 3y ago
> You’d think people carried around half a dozen devices and charging cables were like hose pipes the way people complain about carrying them. An extra cable in a bag is not a real problem anyone really has It's probably a real problem if you're bothered by the frequency of complaints about it.
lazide 3y ago
It’s been an irritating problem for me when I travel. I always either have too many cables, or somehow missed the one I need. On the device set I bring, I have 5 different types of cables. Anker makes some nice cables with adapters built in, which helps. They don’t handle high power draw though (laptop, power bank). USB-B (toothbrush) Microusb (garmin GPS tracker) Lightning (AirPods, iPhone) USB-C (power brick, laptop) Garmin watch charge cable And of course, some of these are easy to find USB-C ended cables for, others not and it’s USB-A
- tzs 3y ago
  > Anker makes some nice cables with adapters built in, which helps E.g., [1]. Micro-B with captive USB C and Lightning adapters. [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07215381G/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07215381G/
  - lazide 3y ago
    That’s the one!

matwood 3y ago

> without having to carry around a separate charger Separate cable. I've only used usb-c charger bricks for years.

JimDabell 3y ago
You don’t even need a separate cable! Every iPhone released in the past six years, including the iPhone 11 Pro Max, has supported wireless charging using the same standard Qi protocol that other phones use to charge.
- orev 3y ago
  People complaining about carrying around an extra (small, lightweight) cable are definitely not traveling with the hockey puck you need for Qi charging. Size and weight matters when traveling, and Qi chargers simply never get near the travel bags. Multiple 12 inch cables are far superior (space/weight wise)
  - matwood 3y ago
    Something like this works very well for travel. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKPCXZQY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKPCXZQY
    - orev 3y ago
      That does look pretty nice, but it’s still much bigger and heavier than a few 12” cables (and far more expensive)

DougBTX 3y ago

> a separate charger After the last round of EU charger regs, it was just a cable!

tzs 3y ago
It was just a cable long before the EU regulations. Apple mobile devices have been chargeable from a USB port starting with the 3rd generation iPod introduced in 2003, which was around 7 years before the EU regulation requiring USB micro-B chargers.

HumblyTossed 3y ago

Cable. Not charger. And I usually have multiple cables so I don’t have to charge my devices linearly in time.

HPsquared 3y ago
Don't even need a full cable, just an adapter.

WithinReason 3y ago

Just get a universal cable for $30 and save $970: https://rollingsquare.com/collections/cables https://rollingsquare.com/collections/cables