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Hayao Miyazaki, in the documentary "The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness" (2013): Interviewer: "Aren't you worried about [Studio Ghibli]'s future?" HM: "The futu
by belugacat 3y ago
Hayao Miyazaki, in the documentary "The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness" (2013):
Interviewer: "Aren't you worried about [Studio Ghibli]'s future?"
HM: "The future is clear. It's gonna fall apart. I can already see it. What's the use worrying? It's inevitable. "Ghibli" is just a random name I got from an airplane. It's only a name."
- fidotron 3y agoYep. This is near the better end of possible outcomes given at least they have a track record of respecting legacy and showing the value of archives. The idea that Ghibli as a major production concern would outlast Hayao Miyazaki was obvious nonsense, and you can almost feel the relief of Goro.
- makeitdouble 3y agoYes. I think this also comes less as a shock as the new generation of directors have a number of studios willing to give them a chance (including new studios beasically founded for a single director, or even single piece). Ghibli can stay an icon of a glorious past area, in good hands.
- HenryBemis 3y ago"We'll Always Have Paris" is the phrase that came to my mind. If we are lucky, the Ghibli will be the empty shell holding the royalties/rights/etc of the Miyazaki (and other) produced movies. If we are unlucky, someone will use the brand name to start producing (en masse) garbage, selling it to Netflix, and Netflix will be pushing garbage low-quality, hi-speed cartoons.
- nordsieck 3y ago> If we are unlucky, someone will use the brand name to start producing (en masse) garbage, selling it to Netflix, and Netflix will be pushing garbage low-quality, hi-speed cartoons. I would really hate to see the Ghibli version of "rings of power"
- dwighttk 3y agoDon’t have to watch it… we’ll always have the books… maybe one day I’ll forget watching the first third of The Hobbit in 3D
- hx8 3y agoAfter Game of Thrones season 3 I've began ignoring film adaptations of books I enjoy. I think the risk of tarnishing my experience with a good book is much worse than any possible film enhancement I've experienced. The screenshots from Blade Runner 2 and Dune do look cool though.
- aftbit 3y agoI only read the first Dune book, but I feel like the recent-ish movie did a pretty good job following what happened in the book.
- KineticLensman 3y agoThe third Dune book (arguably the second) actually illustrates this general point about decline as well. Run screaming from the subsequent books
- yongjik 3y agoI think the second and the third was okay, but the fourth was... hmm maybe "decline" is not the right word, it was as if I walked into my favorite coffee shop and they decided to drop a bunch of bricks and PVC pipes on my laps because that's what they do now. (Can't talk about later books - I kinda stopped there and never picked up again. Maybe I should.)
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoGod Emperor is a slog, but sets the groundwork for Heretics and Chapterhouse, and they're in my opinion very good. I've re-read Chapterhouse more than any of the others. But I think he meant for there to be a final one to follow it, and so it closes off somewhat unsatisfactorily.
- xwdv 3y agoWho cares? The past has happened, and nobody can change it, nobody can go back and unmake those movies we saw. Nobody can take the memories away. The point is it doesn’t matter anymore. Someone can take the name and make mass produced garbage, you don’t have to watch it. Ghibli doesn’t mean anything. Let it go. People care too much about keeping everything exactly the same.
- MangoCoffee 3y ago>Someone can take the name and make mass produced garbage This hit hard. Disney bought Lucasfilm. Look at Indiana Jones 5, I don't think anyone ask for it, but Disney made it and it's a major flop.
- mcpackieh 3y agoI agree, but it seems like many people are incapable of thinking this way. See the number of people who say that new star wars ruined old star wars, "ruined their childhood" even. How? How can a new movie ruin an old movie? Causality does not work in that direction. But some people think it does and the illogicality of their position doesn't change the fact of how they genuinely feel.
- autoexec 3y ago> How? How can a new movie ruin an old movie? I think it must be kind of like desecrating a corpse. Maybe watching someone dig up and do something prolonged and unthinkable to the body of your dead grandmother can't undo all the lovely years you had together, but if witnessing that act enraged you, you might find that suddenly every time you see her photo or visit her grave you're reminded of what you saw and that it upsets you all over again.
- ryandrake 3y agoNot saying I fully buy it but I think the fans’ point is that what Disney is doing to Star Wars today is diminishing the entirety of Star Wars, the average of past + present. Every new Transformers or Indiana Jones or Ice Age makes the overall work worse, regardless of whether you even see it.
- moomin 3y agoImagine if DC purchased it and started running plots with Lady Eboshi having a smackdown with Ozymandias.
- teawrecks 3y agoWaiting for them to train an AI on Miyazaki's art/writing style and pump out a bunch of junk.
- reso 3y agoSpirited Away 2: Rise of the Bathhouse
- micromacrofoot 3y agoProbably a bit of a double-edged sword because frankly Hayao does not seem to care for Goro all that much.
- the_af 3y agoI'm not sure I understand... this news indicates that Goro will not be leading Ghibli. So what would be the double-edged sword?
- Mistletoe 3y agoI’m also confused, does he not like his own son?
- jd3 3y agoHe was a self-described absentee father, stated that being around his son made him anxious, dissuaded Goro from getting into animation, and was critical and generally unsupportive of the three films that Goro directed. Goro even stated that he only got to know his father through his films since Hayao was never around. Goro was raised by his mother, who quit pursuing her dream of working as an animator in order to raise him.
- Der_Einzige 3y agoGoros films to be fair were pretty bad. Tales from the earth sea in particular is shockingly bad.
- hotdogscout 3y agoKokuriko-zaka Kara was really good though. Better than Miyazaki's earlier work (Sherlock Hound, Conan, Lupin). I find them very simple and mediocre compared to anything of that time or even 60's anime like 009.
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- moomin 3y agoI want to see more from Hiromasa Yonebayashi, though.
- hinkley 3y agoThere are adults now that grew up with Ghibli films. And not just from HBO playing an abridged Nausicaa on a loop as filler. Certainly Miyazaki has succeeded in keeping the wheels on long enough that there’s a cadre of people out there that have a deep psychological investment in preserving the legacy. It won’t be Miyazaki’s Ghibli, but it could be something.
- jonhohle 3y agoBut why can’t it be something else? Does the name matter apart from the creators? If I see Miyazaki on a poster, I’m going to be interested. There’s been enough Ghibli without him that I know the studio isn’t magic, it’s him. Not saying the non-Miyazaki stuff is terrible, but certainly not the same quality.
- emodendroket 3y agoI don’t know. How many people visited Disneyland this year?
- the_af 3y agoI certainly don't want Ghibli to become Japan's Disneyland.
- mnky9800n 3y agoGood news is Japan already has a Disneyland.
- emodendroket 3y agoThere’s always room for another.
- astrange 3y agoJapan is actually relatively short on things to do considering how many tourists they get. There's some proposals to build another large theme park in Yokohama IIRC.
- imachine1980_ 3y agoi dont doubt they have bigger places trying to buy it but decide local company whit good track record.
- amelius 3y ago> The future is clear. It's gonna fall apart. I can already see it. I wonder how he thinks of the future of animation now, after the introduction of StableDiffusion and others.
- lairv 3y agohttps://youtu.be/7EvnKYOuvWo?si=KjIPP5LtZvab_Ls5 https://youtu.be/7EvnKYOuvWo?si=KjIPP5LtZvab_Ls5 Well he didn't seem very fond of it even before it was created
- caust1c 3y agoWow, thanks for sharing. Last line of that clip hits hard :(
- frozenlettuce 3y agoI find it amusing given that in Princess Mononoke one of the villians loses an arm - does he sees that a punishment? Does he think that a bad person deserves that? Wasn't it also "disrescpectful" to his disabled friend? IMO that is just people making-up emotional arguments to trash the younger generation to keep them in control.
- morelisp 3y agoWhat a profound misreading of both his comments on the animation and Princess Mononoke.
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- peoplefromibiza 3y ago> does he sees that a punishment? No, that's what happens in nature when two different worlds collide. And you accept it, like Lady Eboshi does.
- hotdogscout 3y ago>that is just people making-up emotional arguments to trash the younger generation to keep them in control. I think Miyazaki's just an old conservative emotional man. He probably doesn't think very hard or rationally about his taste.
- astrod 3y agoSounds perfect, like the embodiment of the cherry blossom and its inevitability death after a beautiful short life.
- tmtvl 3y agoOnly to then be hit by Resurrection Butterfly, which looks scary as anything. It isn't quite as bad as it looks, though.
- GuB-42 3y agoIt is even more evident that it is just a name if you consider that Nausicaa is not a Studio Ghibli film. It is the film that lead to the creation of the studio and my personal favorite, but technically, it wasn't part of it.
- bitwize 3y agoI've felt the same way about Gainax, from whom all the good original people departed, forming splinter studios while Gainax's "loose management" ran it into the ground. These days the company is known for tax fraud and embezzlement in its history, as well as sexual misconduct against a minor committed by its president. But Evangelion is a Studio Khara (Hideaki Anno's studio) property now, so it's safe.
- kridsdale3 3y ago> sexual misconduct against a minor I thought that Japan had some of the most permissive laws in the world for that. (I'm making no moral judgement, only legal) If what happened was a violation of even that, then Jesus. (I have not looked up this incident at all)
- bitwize 3y agoYeah, Japan is starting to crack down on that now. And because nude photos were involved, child pornography laws could be invoked anyway.
- gabereiser 3y agoThe value is not in the ability to make stories, it’s now the aesthetic of “Ghibli” they covet. It’s unique style of art that told the greatest stories in a way that was relatable to children and adults alike. Knowing it will end, knowing one’s own impermanence, is the mark of a true master. さようなら
- wodenokoto 3y agoThank you for the quote. I think I’ve commented before something to the point of “what’s left for Ghibli?” Their most promising young directors left to start their own studio, Goro Miyazaki has his good and bad movies, but doesn’t look like the strength to carry on the legacy on his own. And then what? Well, nothing. The buck ends with Miyazaki and maybe that is okay. Ghibli has managed to produce movies with an unrivaled charm, but that is not to say other directors don’t make absolutely amazing animated movies in Japan.
- coffeebeqn 3y agoIt’s already unusual that a small movie studio has survived this long
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- EGreg 3y agoIronically - the expression “studio ghibli” in Russian actually embodies that fate for the studio LOL
- omneity 3y agoThe beauty of impermanence, masterfully illustrated. Rest in peace mr. Miyazaki and thank you for making the world a better place with your stories.
- bluerooibos 3y agoWhat's also hilarious is his reaction to some creepy looking computer generated art/animation which for some reason they chose to make look like it had a disability. “I am utterly disgusted,” he says. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it, but I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.” Worth a watch if you want a laugh - https://youtu.be/ngZ0K3lWKRc?si=JuIRf79ac5X3FogI https://youtu.be/ngZ0K3lWKRc?si=JuIRf79ac5X3FogI
- noneoftheaboveu 3y agoPlease provide reference and many thanks for pinpointing this interview