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Kagi Small Web
- kid_madhyamika 3y ago[dead]
- freediver 3y agoVlad from Kagi here, thanks for posting. The RSS feed unexpectedly broke (edit: the feed is back up! [3]) just as we published the blog post, in the true spirt of "small web" :) Should be up in 30 minutes which will enable the site to function too (it uses the same feed). This has been a personal pet project of mine and I spent considerable time getting my hands dirty with the code, as the team was busy with other initiatives. When I said the "feed broke" for the launch I meant I broke it. Software is messy especially for an old school dev. I learned in the process I am not a very good coder anymore (if I ever was one?), constantly going back and fixing stuff I previously thought was solid. Check it out in the linked repo [1]. Most importantly - I found the site replace the need for discovery for me, and getting to know various different humans and their writing felt good! A lot of unexpected stuff surfaced and the web felt close again. I think there is a glimpse of hope in the concept and I hope you see it too. And the improvements to search quality and diversity this brings are real. You can check the list of included websites here [2]. And all the recent posts already surface in Kagi results (for relevant queries). [1] https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb [2] https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallyt.txt https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallyt.txt [3] https://kagi.com/smallweb https://kagi.com/smallweb
- aftergibson 3y agoNo other search engine would do this and it's awesome! Always feel like my subscription is well worth it. Thanks Vlad!
- mrcgnc 3y agoI'm a paying customer and this is yet another nice addition. It's something only you can do. Please keep doing this kind of stuff!
- raybb 3y agoWhy do you let YouTube channels have advertisements/sponsors but require sites to be ad-free? I understand the spirit of it and don't have any counter examples but seems like a bummer if someone has a nice indie blog but can't be added because they have a few ads or a sponsored post.
- freediver 3y agoMost of the focus was on the website curation. The YT channels were curated from the initial list of sources [1] and then automatically filtered by recency and subscriber count criteria. That is to say that very little other effort was made to curate the YT channels and we expect the user community will contribute to edit the list. Also I was under impression that all YouTube channels had ads, so that is why this was not considered as a seperate criterion. [1] https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb#youtube-channels https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb#youtube-channels
- elashri 3y agoI think we are here talking about organic ads (sponsorship, …etc.) not YouTube as platform ads.
- freediver 3y agoThanks for clarifying. Yeah we should establish a criterion around that. Curating YT is much more work it feels like. Let's see how "Small YouTube" [1] feels like to begin with and we can take it from there. [1] https://kagi.com/smallweb/?yt https://kagi.com/smallweb/?yt
- flexagoon 3y agoBy the way, you can perhaps check https://nebula.tv https://nebula.tv for a list of good YouTube channels (not all of them are great IMO, but a lot of people who make content on Nebula fit the "small web" criteria) Now that I think of it, perhaps you can call Nebula "the Kagi of video streaming". Maybe you guys could collaborate somehow in the future ;D
- manuelmoreale 3y agoThis is so neat! So happy so see the small, independent and more humane web being highlighted. I’m trying to do my part[0] but I have no doubt that a search engine—even if still a niche one— can have a much bigger impact. Really well done Vlad! [0] https://peopleandblogs.com https://peopleandblogs.com
- marginalia_nu 3y agoI kinda wish there was a sort of proper blog-DMOZ. Would make this sort of stuff a lot easier. Right now everyone and their grandma is curating their own blog list. Lots of wasted effort that could be saved by collaborating somehow.
- mgreg 3y agoThat is a very good idea. Any thoughts as to why this hasn't happened already?
- smallerfish 3y agoBecause curation to keep spam out would be work. And how do you prevent trojan horses, where an initially promising blog is turned over to SEO once included in the official dmoz? Could be done, but it'd take time and effort.
- manuelmoreale 3y agoThere’s also the issue of quality. Do you just include everything that is a blog, no matter how low quality it is? And if the answer to that is no, then where do you draw the line when it comes to quality? Curating anything is complicated and different people will have different opinions which is why you end up with different lists curated by different groups of people with different ideas about what should and shouldn’t be included.
- manuelmoreale 3y agoI agree but it’s incredibly hard to collaborate on this kind of projects because everyone has their own take on what should and shouldn’t be included. Curation is still hard. Also, I personally don’t mind having different curated directories because those will reflect the taste and interests of the curator.
- BbzzbB 3y agoIsn't this more likely to have been inspired by marginalia* than a personal blogs thread? Doesn't seem to have the same results from the Apple Watch example, but it's what immediately came to mind for me when I read this post's title. *https://search.marginalia.nu https://search.marginalia.nu, commonly mentioned on HN https://hn.algolia.com/?query=marginalia https://hn.algolia.com/?query=marginalia
- marginalia_nu 3y agoVlad was dabbling with similar things to Marginalia with Teclis around the same time Marginalia first made headlines. And to be fair, I was simultaneously inspired by the blog thread to build a curated blog filter for my search engine, which led to a series of changes that overall tends to promote more of this types of results in general. The fact that we're several to have similar ideas sort of validates the ideas I think.
- BbzzbB 3y agoInteresting lore, thanks. I'm not complaining, glad there's more tools for searching outside the scope of SEO spam or content mills, and competition can only make the niche better (presumably, unless it gets big enough to incentivize disguising commercial content as niche blogs). Just felt like it might be a bit disingenuous to quote a blog list as inspiration for a search engine focused on "the non-commercial part of the web" which is exactly your engine's aim and wording, didn't know they've been working on small web initiatives since a similar timeline. Hopefully you both find success and with it uplift hobbyist websites.
- flexagoon 3y agoKagi actually uses Marginalia as one of its result sources, especially if you enable the "non-commercial" lens!
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- coding123 3y agoHonestly the reality is a good coder is one that keeps chugging and doesn't give up.
- epilys 3y agoDiscord really? why not IRC? I don't think having to use proprietary communication software that require accounts did with small web and open source.
- mikae1 3y ago> why not IRC? why not Matrix? I think that's a more realistic alternative. :)
- mhitza 3y agoI really enjoy that this feature got released. Adding more visibility to the indie/small web is a great thing. I've complained in the past on HN that any useful personal blog is buried under spammy content in search engines. It would be nice to also be able to just search within the small web, maybe using a lens in the future? Regarding the topic of self promotion, I would disagree with the current rules and I would ask you to allow people to self promote. As long they have an old enough blog, maybe even cut that down to a year, would be helpful. Most users on the small/indie web lack visibility and this would do them service. My blog is already within the index because I think it might have been picked up during the "HN share your blog" post that happened a while ago, but others might not have been that lucky.
- skinkestek 3y agoThere is already a lens called the non commercial web or something that I suspect overlaps to some degree,but I don't think they are equal and I don't know if I am right.
- digitalsin 3y agoThis is absolutely fantastic, thank you!
- sergiosgc 3y agoCongratulations on the initiative. The results seem cool, and integration in the main search results may give a glimpse outside the big web. I'm a Kagi customer, and a very happy one. The search engine is amazingly good. This only makes me happier with my search engine choice.
- mbb70 3y agoFYI your "Why pay for search" and "FAQ" links on https://kagi.com/pricing https://kagi.com/pricing are broken, perhaps another refactoring victim?
- freediver 3y agoThanks, will be sorted out.
- eitland 3y agoAnd this is the second major reason why I use Kagi: If I notice something is wrong I can report it and expect to have a developer look into it within reasonable time. They are grateful for reports from users and if there is an actual problem (and not a misunderstanding) it is also fixed, again with a reasonable. (The first major reason for me is premium search quality, no tracking probably comes at a distant third or something.)
- dharmab 3y agoVlad helped me troubleshoot why my Orion browser wasn't syncing bookmarks (turned out to be a config issue on my device) and we got the fix added into the official documentation. Imagine getting that level of support for any other web browser!
- spiritplumber 3y agoThanks for doing this! Our fiction and rpg stuff is at https://www.emlia.org/ https://www.emlia.org/
- palmer_fox 3y agoThe more I uses Kagi (paid) the more I am feeling sad for the possibility that it might go away if it doesn't get more traction. For me you represent an incredible accomplishment: the first search engine that gives better results than Google, respects privacy, offers customization and so much more. Thank you.
- sshine 3y agoKagi is the best.
- Phemist 3y agoSometimes I have to use somebody else's laptop, for some reason or other I end up searching for something. I think, why are these results so crap? I notice google/bing and quickly kick in my muscle memory built up over the years to type duckduckgo.com and do another search. After this I still am confused why the results are so crap. Then I notice the duck laughing at me and think... shouldnt this be a dog? And then I start feeling bad for the original user of the device and tell them to do the search themselves and let me know when they get a result
- Phemist 3y agoJust to say: the search engine frog has long been boilt and it is amazing what crap people have to put up with when searching for anything. How jarring the experience of seeing TV commercials is after years of Kodi, is how the experience is of moving back to an ad-supported search engine after now months of Kagi.
- skydhash 3y agoYoutube doesn’t show ads in my country. Anytime I use a vpn or I travel, I can’t believe how bad the free tier is. My twitch consumption has gone way down because of the ads. Watching the last NBA season was so annoying. I felt more than half of the broadcast was ads.
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- tacon 3y agoYour reference [2] is to the YouTube channel list. I think you meant to link to https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallweb.txt https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallweb.tx...
- TradingPlaces 3y agoThanks Vlad. Another great feature.
- BoorishBears 3y agoSemi-unrelated, but is there any reason you don't make your search API as turn key as the other APIs? It's expensive enough that I can't imagine anyone repackaging it profitably (2x Bing search prices for me) but having to email someone adds just enough friction to discourage a lot of tinkerers from even trying it.
- freediver 3y agoThis is planned, just can get to the top of priorities given everything else. But expect it by the end of the year.
- matheusmoreira 3y agoI have been developing a "small web" static site, forked and customized a templating engine into a static site generator just for my site. Even wrote a new post recently, last week or so. How can I add it to the list? The GitHub says to make a pull request, is that really all there is to it? Edit: just saw this: > Do not submit your own website. I see. I'm okay with that. Maybe it will show up there one day.
- freediver 3y agoI checked your site and do not see an RSS feed there? Feel free to submit it once implemented :)
- matheusmoreira 3y agoI'll work on it!
- VapidLinus 3y agoAre English "Small Web" results included even if I use the "Sweden" search region? I noticed the example result for useyourloaf wasn't included if I switched it to "Sweden" and not sure if this is just an oddity or if the entire feature is nerfed because I just leave my locale on all the time.
- freediver 3y agoCan you post this on kagifeedback.org so that we can have a look in more depth?
- ecshafer 3y agoThis is cool. The web has become too centralized.
- kickdaddy 3y agoKagi is worth every penny. Been using it for 6 months as my primary search engine. I think I have used the Google !g 10 or so times in that period maybe?
- Yiin 3y agosame, and realized in those cases that google results were still worse compared to whatever Kagi found.
- packetlost 3y agoThe ability to block SEO garbage sites like GeeksForGeeks and not filling the first 3-5 results with ads is worth it alone. Not to mention the ability to boost certain sites results over others on a personalized level. Unfortunately for me, I end up regularly going over the "Pro" tier of searches a month (partially because I accidentally search all the time, but also I'm heavy search-engine user) is a bit of a letdown. At least they have an option to purchase additional searches instead of going up to the rather expensive unmetered tier.
- tstrimple 3y ago> I end up regularly going over the "Pro" tier of searches a month (partially because I accidentally search all the time, but also I'm heavy search-engine user) is a bit of a letdown. I hadn't considered this aspect of Kagi yet. I'm not a subscriber at this point, but I am strongly considering it. But I use search instead of typing domain names directly to avoid the typo phishing style attacks. I wonder how much "artificial" search that would generate based on my typical usage.
- skyyler 3y agoMake better use of bookmarks and you won't need to use a search engine as a first-line phishing defense. Just a suggestion. Search engines do supply their results with a level of confidence, and you're not wrong to use them like that.
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- mbwgh 3y agoKagi is the ten bucks per month that just keep giving.
- caskstrength 3y agoAnd yet in the article they reference their Discord channel and Twitter sigh
- vinceguidry 3y agoCan't reinvent everything all at once lol.
- toastal 3y agoThere’s not much to reinvent. They could have setup & hosted an XMPP server with MUCs & microblogged posts on whatever ActivityPub option they chose (or similar softwares).
- vinceguidry 3y agoThe point isn't to go back to the 90s, it's to bring the 90s into today.
- caskstrength 3y agoHow is creating a Mastodon account equates to "going back to the 90s"?
- dagw 3y agoInstead of there being one central authority where you create your "Mastodon account" that is responsible for authentication and deciding who gets to view and post what, there are thousands of independent 'authorities' each deciding who they want to let on and how they want to do things and what subset of Mastodon they want their users to see. Much like Usenet and IRC
- toastal 3y agoModern XEPs have brought XMPP to today. ActivityPub is fairly new too.
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- thrtythreeforty 3y agoThis is quite interesting. I feel you should include content from blogs that publish less often than once a week - some of the best blogs post once in a blue moon and are still quite interesting.
- landgenoot 3y ago> We gather new content, published within the last week, from a handpicked list of blogs and surface it in multiple ways. I think the only condition is that the article is less than one week old.
- freediver 3y agoWe do as a part of our own search index, just not as a part of this particular initiative where we wanted a focus on the fresh stuff from the small web "oven".
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoThis is really good. With more and more of the large web filled with SEO crap and gargantuan articles written because that's what google wants, it is great to read from the people who actually write the interesting things the AIs train on.
- blitz_skull 3y agoThings like this are why I keep rooting for Kagi. I haven’t purchased a subscription yet because I’m still on my free 100 queries, but I will as soon as they run out. I really love this project!
- tailspin2019 3y agoI could already tell I was going to like this from the title alone!
- gcoguiec 3y agoVery excited about this!
- vk7eu 3y agoGreat idea! https://kagi.com/smallweb https://kagi.com/smallweb displays the homepage for the Kagi Blog at the moment, though.
- freediver 3y agoWe had a 'glitch', it should be fixed now.
- RamblingCTO 3y agoIt actually displays a website with js (newsletter popups). Is that a bug or did I misinterpret things?
- hcarrega 3y agoand get a download automatic
- ot1138 3y agoNice, but I can't figure out how to search it. The "Small Web" site linked to in the article just shows a number of links to Kagi articles.
- freeAgent 3y agoIt sounds like it’s integrated into Kagi’s main results and you can use the API to reference only the small web results, but I also don’t see a way for a Kagi search user to toggle “small web” results as a lens or whatever. I assume and hope that may be added in the future.
- freediver 3y agoYou are right, this is a good idea and I encourage you to post it on kagifeedback.org as a feature suggestion. In the meantime you can toggle the 'non-commercial web' lens which will include KSW (and some other things).
- burkaman 3y agoThat was a deployment issue (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37420695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37420695), it's working now.
- marginalia_nu 3y agoSome Q:s #1 What's the rationale behind favoring recent blog updates? In my experience, recent updates make the weakest search results, more prone to updates and link breakage, and overall tend to be of lower quality. I also wonder if promoting recent content might incentivize pumping out low-quality entries to increase the odds of being listed. #2 In dabbling in the domain I've always ended up with an almost absurd skew toward technical programmer:y blogs. While there is a strong overlap between the cohort with a blog, and the cohort with programmer interests, I feel it would be more inviting to other groups if other interests were better represented. Is this something you've thought about, and if so, what do you think might be done?
- freediver 3y agoHey Viktor! #1 There are a couple of factors. - More recent content tends to be more relevant given the same search query, or at least its freshnes will contribute to it not being completely irrelevant (which is the worse thing you want in a search engine). The quality of it is already guaranteed to some extent by this being a curated list to begin with. - It was relatively easy to assemble and maintain the list because it relies on RSS feed tech, and there were a lot of sources to seed it. - Focus on recent writing can encourage some people to write (more) as we had an example highlighted in the blog post. In general, the web needs more high quality, non-commercial content, and this is ultimately what we want to contribute towards with this. By providing a platform (even if very small) to encourage this behavior we get a step closer to the web we like. #2 In general I agree. Although I should say we did spend effort to create a diverse pool of websites for this initiative (for example I am seeing a lot of economy or photography). Again, we can only encourage the creation of more content in various areas through platforms like Kagi (and Marginalia) and hope that it will work out at the end.
- MatthiasPortzel 3y agoIf your goal is to encourage people to post more on blogs, why exclude all blogs created within the last 3 years?
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- bennyp101 3y agoPretty cool - just wondering why one of the requirements is "The website can appear in an iframe"?
- freediver 3y agoThat is a requirement for it to be featured in the KSW website (as it uses iframes to embed). We will still crawl it and surface in search results regardless..
- bennyp101 3y agoAh gotcha, I misunderstood that part :)
- freeAgent 3y agoIt looks like that’s because that’s how the pages are displayed through this feature.
- vladstudio 3y agoVlad, you're awesome! It's hard to tell to what extent it is actually beneficial for users or your company, but I feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing these kinds of things still happen in modern Internet.
- freediver 3y agoHah, thanks. It was one of those things that I just wanted to do and I actually wrote 100% of code for this end to end which took me a good part of a month. Not the best use of CEOs time you might say, but it was fun and felt right.
- dcow 3y agoAs an investor, this is exactly what I want to see the CEO doing, at least occasionally.
- unshavedyak 3y agoThis sort of stuff makes me really happy to be a Kagi subscriber. Not only do i get value out of Kagi, but this shows me that the money is being used to develop Kagi in a way i agree with. By comparison, Spotify (just picking one of my subs) feels hostile to me. I pay them, but would cancel in a heart beat if i felt i had options. I really appreciate Kagi's development matching what i feel like i'm buying. Thanks Kagi Team <3
- Subsector6616 3y agoMusic streaming is such a mess. I've tried a ton of services in an attempt to find one that's decent, and have found embarrassing problems for all of them. Spotify: Really hostile, manipulative, and terrible to artists. On my end I hate how commercial the homescreen is, and the CarPlay interface is just a user-hostile to a degree that is frankly unsafe disaster. TIDAL: Pretty good in a lot of ways. They pay their artists well. The recommendations are decent. The apps have some really stupid bugs that have persisted for years though, the most annoying of which is that if you shuffle a playlist it only shuffles the dozen or so tracks that the interface had pre-cached from the top. So if you try to shuffle your full library you wind up just hearing the same dozen songs only, over and over again. Deezer: Wanted to like it, but the apps aren't great, and I ran into more missing tracks than I'd like. So I finally settled on Apple Music. I've got an iPhone, so it's a natural fit there, and the CarPlay interface is great. They also pay artists almost as well as TIDAL. The recommendations are super good enough, and I don't really feel like the home page is constantly trying to push me to whatever the huge labels are paying them to promote (damn you Spotify). The Windows apps are terrible (like flat out embarrassing), and the Linux apps are non-existent, but luckily there's a pretty great open source app called Cider that solves that.
- unshavedyak 3y ago> The Windows apps are terrible (like flat out embarrassing), and the Linux apps are non-existent, but luckily there's a pretty great open source app called Cider that solves that. This is what blocked me from trying Apple Music as well. Maybe i'll give Cider a look, thanks!
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- jabroni_salad 3y agothe smallwebsite is delightful. It reminds me of Stumbleupon, which I miss dearly. And of course it showed me Questionable Content, which I first got to via stumbleupon.
- arboles 3y ago> These notes will vanish in about a week as we cycle in new content - emphasizing the fleeting, imperfect nature of the small web. Kagi could just admit they don't want to moderate notes or store them permanently. No need to push down the small web, because a lot of small sites preserve their content. I get that Kagi probably has data indicating the reality of how often sites down, but it seems from my experience that content in big platforms disappears often as well, even in the cases where the creator hadn't forgotten about it. The "Small web" websites made by a creator that cares have the room to be much more permanent.
- wink 3y agoThat's a funny sentence indeed, most personal sites take painstaking care to not break their 10 or 20 year old links :P
- slushh 3y agoWhere do those notes appear? It would be nice if Kagi Small Web would have an ActivityPub interface so that the most appreciated sites of a day could be added to a timeline on mastodon or lemmy.
- pavlov 3y agoGreat initiative, but it feels like they're not quite eating their own dogfood. This post contains a link titled "highlighting blog posts from HN users" which goes to Twitter — a massive centralized social media app that's pretty much the opposite of "small web".
- freediver 3y agoSee my other reply to the similar comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37421871 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37421871
- MatthiasPortzel 3y agoThis sort of centralized, hand-curated list makes me nervous. The beauty of the web is that it’s open, you don’t have to “apply” or meet “criteria” for your website to viewable by other people. Obviously the status-quo (of Google Search) isn’t great, and I’m glad Kagi is trying to fix this problem. But this isn’t going to scale.
- scarmig 3y agoI can't see how it will scale, but in the immediate present, it seems useful and good to me. I might even prefer if this small web remained small (though that's likely... unappealing to Kagi's investors).
- jefftk 3y agoIt looks like you're stripping MathML out of the RSS feed -- is that intentional, or are you using an older sanitizer that doesn't recognize it? For example, my RSS feed [1] for my most recent post [2] has: <math display="block"> <msup><mi>e</mi> <mrow><mi>k</mi><mi>t</mi></mrow></msup> </math> Which shows up in your RSS feed [3] as: e kt [EDIT: filed an issue: https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/issues/10 https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/issues/10] [1] https://www.jefftk.com/news.rss https://www.jefftk.com/news.rss [2] https://www.jefftk.com/p/weekly-incidence-vs-cumulative-infections https://www.jefftk.com/p/weekly-incidence-vs-cumulative-infe... [3] https://kagi.com/api/v1/smallweb/feed https://kagi.com/api/v1/smallweb/feed
- w0mbat 3y agoI find this kind of domain name reuse unsettling: for years, Kagi.com was the address of a payment service for shareware authors. Man those were the days. Lots of people were perfectly willing to pay me $20 for a useful little utility app and now they won't pay $2 in an App Store.
- eitland 3y ago> Lots of people were perfectly willing to pay me $20 for a useful little utility app and now they won't pay $2 in an App Store. what kind of utilities? I am happy to pay $2 (or more) for tools I use if it is a one time payment or a payment for tokens (e.g. $n for $m ocr scans, generated images or whatever). I loathe apps that demand monthly payments unless it is really understandable why they have to have it that way (service that require permanent storage comes to mind, although I think I only use iCloud for storage now).
- rapnie 3y agoMore Small Web in the tools Aral Balkan is building https://small-tech.org/research-and-development/ https://small-tech.org/research-and-development/
- k0k0r0 3y agoKagi appearently had a project "expertGPT" (contrast to FastGPT). Does anybody know what happened to that one? On a side note, there is now a - to my best knowledge - completely unrelated product "ExpertGPT" from some totally different company. I am not talking about that one.
- raybb 3y agoHuh I wonder that too. Seems it hasn't been mentioned on the forums for a few months. So maybe they decided it wasn't worth it to keep that experiment running. https://kagifeedback.org/?sort=latest&q=expertgpt https://kagifeedback.org/?sort=latest&q=expertgpt
- freediver 3y agoLaunching Oct 2, as a part of Kagi Assistant. Already in beta with a number of members.
- 58ok5 3y agoOkay, it's great, and now I'm existed >> Now how can I raise those results in my personalized results?
- 58ok5 3y agoGreat initiative, now how can I raise those results above all my already raised domains?
- sotix 3y agoI would love to have my website added to the list because I block all crawlers in my robots.txt, but it looks like I’m not allowed to submit my own website. Is there a way to go about having it added? It would be great to be part of kagi search results but don’t want to be scraped by Google, ChatGPT, or the next group, so I found it easiest to block everything.
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- judas44 3y agoThis is their own search index which is then enriched by licensed results in kagi: https://teclis.com/suggest.html https://teclis.com/suggest.html
- victorbjorklund 3y agoThis is pretty cool!
- Gud 3y agoThanks a lot for this. I really appreciate kagi and the work you put in to it. Now more than ever do we need a user friendly search engine.
- benhoyt 3y agoThanks for the prominent link to my article! ("The Small Web is Beautiful") I consider that my personal software manifesto, so I'm glad to see it being promoted more widely. I really like what you're doing with Kagi Small Web -- love that you've taken the initiative to start surfacing all this excellent content. Keep up the good work. I think I'll try out Kagi search...
- freediver 3y agoThanks for writing that Ben, it is truly an inspirational piece. I hope you like your Kagi experience.
- mindwork 3y agoThis is amazing! Over the last 2 months I've been on a personal journey to browse through small web links. It all started from the "Ask HN: Could you share your personal blog here?" post on HN, and then I found out that somebody put a website with the links from this post organized(https://dm.hn/ https://dm.hn/). I exported all 1651 blog link in to XLS and now every now and then I open up 5-7 just to read random articles and mark it as "viewed". So far I've been through 250 out of 1651! I wish kagi has something similar, one place where I can see all the links to the personal websites collected via all it's sources
- robga 3y ago>I wish kagi has something similar, one place where I can see all the links to the personal websites collected via all it's sources They do. It's in the open repo https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallweb.txt https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb/blob/main/smallweb.tx...
- jci 3y agoVery happy paying Kagi search and Orion browser user here. Just want to send some general good vibes your way. I really love what you guys are doing, and this just adds to that.
- Sebguer 3y agoI'm interested in the mental gymnastics around how this kind of content manipulation is okay but the suggestion of inserting a suicide hotline at the top of search results around 'how to kill myself' was too political? https://kagifeedback.org/d/865-suicide-results-should-probably-have-a-dont-do-that-widget-like-google/40 https://kagifeedback.org/d/865-suicide-results-should-probab...
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- snvzz 3y agoRealize that people actually pay to NOT get the same results as google.
- fLaMEd 3y agoThis is great to see, what a fantastic addition to Kag,i i. Yeah I see similarities to marginalia, but it’s great to have multiple services for the small web. I need to get my website on the lists asap!
- uconnectlol 3y agogetting tired of hearing about the old web. and still not seeing anything that resembles it. everything still needs js. everything still needs cloudflare bypasses if you view it on tor. this includes whatever cool hacker site you think you have because i almost never see these. i have had a site with just plain html for 10 years and it has no nonsense just content, you can do this too, it doesnt need a movement that just talks about doing it. not that it matters since the old web wasn't good. it was as terrible as now. the UI of absolutely every website ever made has been terrible quirky garbage compared to something like windows 98. Even back then there was a massive difference going from windows 98 (sane GUI) to web (garbage hackjob GUI + ads (YES REMEMBER 40 POPUPS? ADS? TOOLBARS? THE OLD WEB WAS NOT GOOD IT WAS A HELL JUST LIKE NOW)). the content was never good either. every topic discussed on the web is little cliques who believe some easy to digest nonsense and then if you go skim some books on the subject the meta is completely different. except programming since that just centers around the web [1]. think of anything else like cooking or engineering the web is a terrible protocol that should have died 20 years ago and been replaced with something that was modern at the time like freenet (and they should have made an alternative to html etc). 1. and this is ironic too since programming is the one field that is steered by the web's body of pseudoknowledge and as a result you have people who think C, PHP, and OOP are legitimate programming practices.
- fLaMEd 3y agoI think you’re misunderstanding and confusing “old web” with “small web”.
- uconnectlol 3y agothere is no confusion here thanks for your concern.
- sdm 3y ago> Content must be in English (hard to curate non-English). Well this is disappointing. It's no harder to curate other languages. You're just say you don't care.
- kyleee 3y agoUnfortunately people don’t have unlimited time/energy/money. It may not be that they don’t care, but rather they are expending their full effort on other tasks
- nsonha 3y agoso a search engine "handpicked" internet content for you? We already have social network for that.
- replwoacause 3y agoThis is great. Just wanting to chime in that I am also a happy paying customer, and love seeing this kind of work from Kagi. Keep it up!
- rebeccaskinner 3y agoI’ve been using Kagi for over a year and it just keeps getting better. I really appreciate Kagis user and privacy-centric view of the web, and I love how the quality of the product proves that sticking to those ideals is really a better way to build. I hope they continue to gain enough momentum with non-tech audiences to continue to exist for a long time.
- jcul 3y agoThis is really cool. Second link I found: https://ambience.sk/quotes-from-books-the-universe-maker/ https://ambience.sk/quotes-from-books-the-universe-maker/
- endorphine 3y agoAs a SWE/SRE, how does Kagi compare in quality of results (i.e. finding you the answer easily) vs. DuckDuckGo and Google?
- bigpapikite 3y agoI haven't really had issues. They have a "programming" toggle that filters results to what looks like mainly forum type content like on github or stackoverflow, but I don't use it often, I'm sure some people do though
- goplayoutside 3y agoAnother satisfied Kagi customer here ('early adopter's badge). Just wanted to chime in and say I think KSW is awesome. I'll happily renew my annual subscription.