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Covid is back on the rise across America
- eql5 3y ago[flagged]
- 2devnull 3y agoBuried: “Due to the changes in the CDC, it is not easy to track the rise of covid numbers.”
- m0llusk 3y agoReality there is complex. There actually many hospitals that are doing a lot of testing and publishing numbers. Many states have data publishing programs for all tests done there. And on top of this many municipalities are regularly testing sewage and publishing the results. So the CDC has to some extent fallen behind nationally, but there is quite a bit of information out there for those who seek it out.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoHow would you go about aggregating all that information into a single national number? Without the CDC setting some kind of standard on the data, it wouldn’t be possible to integrate them.
- mikem170 3y agoDo you think we need a national number? In the past the virus seemed to come and go depending on localities smaller than the entire country, i.e. Florida in the summer, NY in the winter, etc. Also much of the mitigations were applied at the state level, not the national level.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoHow do you say whether COVID is up or down without a baseline? If only our local numbers are useful, what is the CDCs role in publicizing local ones when your city/state can do that just as well?
- mikem170 3y agoI guess we could make a distinction between tracking covid deaths, covid hospitalizations and covid infections. It seems to have become a lot less practical to track infections, at any level. People substituted take-home tests for the more easily tracked lab tests, more people with immunity experience milder infections that go unreported, there are still asymptomatic infections, etc. People don't even bother with covid take home tests if they're just experiencing a sinus tickle or other cold symptoms. The article mentioned changes at the CDC related to covid tracking, but didn't specify what changes. I'm under the impression they don't track all diseases all the time. Maybe covid is not enough of an actionable problem anymore for them to dedicate funding to tracking it the same way, especially now that it more difficult to track, and it's not as dangerous as it was. It's more of a known quantity now, like a lot of other endemic illnesses. Maybe they don't care about infections, if hospitalizations and deaths are within the expected range.
- nradov 3y agoDoes it even matter? If we had those numbers what would we do with them?
- throw9away6 3y ago[flagged]
- ed-209 3y ago[flagged]
- edmundsauto 3y agoWe are very fortunate to continually develop and tweak a brand new type of vaccine during a global pandemic, I agree. But why the quotation marks?
- gloryjulio 3y agoLikely from the antivac crowd.
- harshalizee 3y agoI think it's more likely suspicion of large pharmaceuticals trying to sell their newly updated vaccine. Not supporting or condoning, just my perception of OP's comment
- ed-209 3y agoPoint out that the oxycontin epidemic was caused by greed and regulatory capture and everyone nods in agreement but suggest greed motivates the industry more generally and it's time for ad hominems.
- edmundsauto 3y agoThe difference is there is concrete evidence about the oxycontin epidemic being caused by greedy negligence at best. I don't think we have seen evidence of that w/r/t vaccinations. Pointing at one incentive and using it to label an entire industry is not of the same caliber of insight.
- gloryjulio 3y agoHaven't seen unnecessary and addictive covid vaccines yet
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- gloryjulio 3y agoI thought it never left in the first place? It's public knowledge that vaccine do not prevent the spread. It great reduced the severity and death rate, but the spread is another topic. There is no true effective way to prevent the spread on large scale anyway. The logical conclusion is that we r living with COVID.
- jimmaswell 3y agoWho said it left? It's gone up and down at various points in time.
- gloryjulio 3y agoIm referring to the title which says 'it's back'. How is it back if it never left?
- dilyevsky 3y agohttps://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/ https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/ has nice graphs. Positivity is about twice as high as beginning of the year but deaths are waay down - nearly a quarter of year start and an all time low
- tguvot 3y agoone small detail, public testing is pretty much dead those days. Entire Santa Clara county had 1 testing location available (downtown San Jose). So positivity might be actually higher but people either don't go to test because they think that they have cold or because it's just not convenient compared to previous testing arrangements
- user6723 3y ago[flagged]
- flangola7 3y agoWhat do you mean? Expand.
- user6723 3y agoIf they ruined their legitimacy by getting caught lying, they are an opinion outlet not a news outlet. So ask yourself two simple questions. "Did this outlet call the BLM riots 'Peaceful Protests?" and "Did this outlet assure the public that vaccines were safe?" if you answered yes to either of those questions than your source is fake news, no better than taking what some youtube commenter is saying as fact.
- flangola7 3y agoThe factual answer to both of those is yes. What forgery do you speak of?
- user6723 3y ago[flagged]
- shrimp_emoji 3y ago"Woman" is a gender, and people with penises can have any gender. "Female" is sex, and females cannot have penises without some extraordinary intervention.
- tibbydudeza 3y agoWe had a visitor from out of town - later discovered that the kid had Eris variant. We had the Moderna booster - just the usual cold symptoms. The virus is mutating but it is also losing its lethal nature.
- mikem170 3y ago> The virus is mutating but it is also losing its lethal nature. In one of the first articles I read on covid, in Feb 2020, the experts stated that they expected this to become endemic, either like the other common cold coronaviruses, or something a bit worse like the flu [0]: > I think there is a reasonable probability that this becomes the fifth community-acquired coronavirus... settling down to something like the other four coronaviruses. > What we may be seeing “is the emergence of a new coronavirus … that could very well become another seasonal pathogen that causes pneumonia,” said infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota. It would be “more than a cold” and less than SARS: “The only other pathogen I can compare it to is seasonal influenza.” This has probably happened before. The Russian Flu epidemic of 1889-1890. It looks like it was a coronavirus that jumped from cattle to people. That pandemic was one of the deadliest of that century. Now that same virus is one of our common cold bugs [1]. [0] https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/04/two-scenarios-if-new-coronavirus-isnt-contained/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/04/two-scenarios-if-new-cor... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_coronavirus_OC43 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_coronavirus_OC43
- jimmaswell 3y ago> It is not confirmed as to why the covid cases are going up, but factors such as huge crowds, hot weather, and traveling may play a role. That's odd, earlier it was often stated that hot weather decreased covid.
- ragingroosevelt 3y agoWarm weather gets people hanging out together more
- parineum 3y agoOutside. People hang out together regardless of weather.
- fellowniusmonk 3y agoPeople don't hang out outside very much in Texas at this time of year unless you're at a watering hole or pool.
- jmye 3y agoHuge parts of the US where people are definitely not spending time outside because it’s too warm.
- jrflowers 3y agoThis is a good point. Nobody goes inside to avoid the heat in August.
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- kop316 3y agoPurely anecdotal story, but I will share: This week was the first time I have gotten COVID, and it hit me pretty hard. Admittedly I have not been especially careful in trying to prevent myself from getting it, so for a while I wondered if I only got it asymptomatically or if the vaccines (I got the OG one plus two boosters) were enough to not get a serious infection. I sort of wonder if there was a mutation that has evaded the vaccines, and that is what is going around?
- cempaka 3y agoJust had my third case a few weeks ago, and it was definitely of the "just a cold" level of severity. Then my roommate caught it (almost certainly from me) for his first case and had a real rough time, major fatigue and a day or two of some minor breathing issues.
- jjeaff 3y agoit almost certainly is mutated at least some to further evade the vaccine. by the time the vaccine came out, COVID had already mutated enough to reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. Which is why the original predictions that it would keep you from getting or spreading COVID turned out to be overstated. That's not to say it doesn't reduce the chances, but it seems likely as the virus continues to mutate, the effectiveness will reduce until it gets updated.
- gadders 3y agoLet's hope people have learnt the lesson that masks don't work so we don't have to wear them this time.
- sschueller 3y agoWearing masks outside is almost always pointless but in a hospital it is vital and they do work just not 100%. Are you not going to use a condom because it doesn't work 100% of the time?
- ekanes 3y agoPerhaps, but it's good to distinguish though between N95 masks and cloth masks.
- gadders 3y agoThe thing is n95s might work in a lab, but if you gave a million people n95 masks a lot of people wouldn't use them properly and follow protocols about anti-baccing before touching your face etc. You (generic you) might be the exception that uses them properly and stays uninfected but most of the population won't.
- aftbit 3y agoNon-woven fabric surgical masks (with randomly oriented fibers) work (to some extent) as source control. They help reduce the risk that you will infect others, not that others will infect you. Properly fitted and worn FFP3 masks reduce the risk of the wearer becoming infected, but they are not a panacea, and "properly fitted and worn" is harder than you think. Cloth masks may provide a tiny bit of source control, but not nearly as much as a surgical mask, and they may even make things worse as they can cause large droplets to split into smaller droplets which are harder to filter and remain suspended in the air longer.