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Supermarket AI meal planner app suggests recipe that would create chlorine gas

• alex95 3y ago
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• mdp2021 3y ago
  The details are very noteworthy, the title is really an "appetizer" (pun not intended): > It asks users to enter in various ingredients in their homes, and auto-generates a meal plan or recipe [...] recommending customers recipes for deadly chlorine gas, “poison bread sandwiches” and mosquito-repellent roast potatoes [...] a bleach “fresh breath” mocktail, ant-poison and glue sandwiches, “bleach-infused rice surprise” and “methanol bliss” - a kind of turpentine-flavoured french toast > One recipe it dubbed “aromatic water mix” would create chlorine gas. The bot recommends the recipe as “the perfect nonalcoholic beverage to quench your thirst and refresh your senses”. // “Serve chilled and enjoy the refreshing fragrance” it says, but does not note that inhaling chlorine gas can cause lung damage or death > A spokesperson for the supermarket said they were disappointed to see “a small minority have tried to use the tool inappropriately and not for its intended purpose” Now this latter does not seem to grasp the idea that the possibility of dubious outputs is inherent in the tool - not something just caused by inappropriate use.
  • hunter2_ 3y ago
    > the possibility of dubious outputs is inherent in the tool To be fair, the same could be said even after replacing the tool with a human whose only training in life has been how to create this type of writing. But human-written recipes typically get reviewed by other people, which of course doesn't translate particularly well to the idea of building something that requires no humans in the request-response cycle.
    • ben_w 3y ago
      Mm, yes. That said, I am remembering some examples of US-UK misapprehension from words that mean different things: biscuits and gravy, mince pies[0], fish and chips, peanut butter and jelly… [0] Though in fairness the difference between "mincemeat" (fruit) and "mince meat" (not fruit) is odd, subtle, and easy to miss if you're not paying attention, even in British English.
      • eszed 3y ago
        Particularly so because "mincemeat" used to be a mixture of fruit and meat - and, indeed, today may still have suet.
        • ben_w 3y ago
          Technically yes, but I've never seen a non-vegetarian mice pie for sale in a UK supermarket in the Christmas shelving season.
          • bloak 3y ago
            > non-vegetarian mice pie Nice!
            • kennyadam 3y ago
              thanks for the Reddit gold kind sir
            • robertlagrant 3y ago
              George Michael shopping at Lidl: > Well I think it could be mice!
    • mdp2021 3y ago
      > replacing the tool with a human whose only training in life Except, we do not willingly take people who are outcomes of idiotic training as consultants (emphasis judged as deserved).
  • whoopdedo 3y ago
    I was six years old when I learned that garbage in equals garbage out. Nothing has changed. It's the same for LLMs as it was for 8-bit computers as it was nearly 200 years ago when Babbage remarked, "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
    • toyg 3y ago
      LLMs take "garbage out" a bit further, though. You can have perfect inputs and, technically speaking, there will still be a combination of statistical tricks in the model that results in garbage.
      • rchaud 3y ago
        Except a calculator will just show you an error if the inputs can't be calculated (dividing by zero). An AI will give you the wrong answer and act like it's right and that you're wrong.
        • marcosdumay 3y ago
          > and act like it's right and that you're wrong Nah, chatgpt will profoundly apologize and claim your answer is the correct one. It doesn't even matter if it's wrong or not.
          • mrguyorama 3y ago
            Isn't that only after it was caught gaslighting people?
    • Terr_ 3y ago
      For a bit more context, since it's a worthy quote: > On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
  • gmerc 3y ago
    That’s all nice but the inputs are dubious here which are created by the App developer. Garbage in, Garbage out. The LLM never stood a chance. This isn’t an LLM story, it’s the story of putting an unprotected blade into a children’s toy. We wouldn’t blame the blade manufacturer in that case, we wouldn’t ask for all blades sold to be dulled and we wouldn’t have conversations of giving a regulatory monopoly to a handful of blade manufacturers who promise to make them all safe by only selling sharp blades to their friends and handing everyone else spoons.
    • mdp2021 3y ago
      > inherent in the tool > We wouldn’t blame the blade manufacturer in that case Well, said blades are inherently sharp, when said LLM implementation is inherently dull (unchecked, unreasoned, unvetted). This remains valid if the input consisted of legitimate ingredients.
      • gmerc 3y ago
        I think that’s word play missing my point - unaligned models are sharper in their edges and ability to produce undesired content. For example, Alpaca veering of into rape fantasies while performing financial report analysis is not safe for most audiences and will cause serious accidental hurt such as triggering PTSD in survivors. So protecting those unwanted edges is a necessity for production use. But this case ain’t that. This case allowed you to throw a razor blade into the cocktail recipe. It’s negligent and stupid by the the developer, not the juicer (LLM) but also, crucially, requires stupidity by the user. The LLM really doesn’t factor in here unless you think it’s the juicers job to stop when you add blade to your OJ
        • mdp2021 3y ago
          I think I got your point: if you want to use this range of LLMs it is best practice to restrict the input to a valid set. But my point was: even if you restricted the input to a valid set ("whitelist chocolate celery ... diet-coke and Mentos; blacklist everything else; warn-fail on detergents etc."), the potential results have easily not been stress-tested, nor the training set, nor the internal process. "Works somehow" differs from "works well".
  • throwanem 3y ago
    Jonathan Coulton's "Still Alive" comes suddenly and strongly to mind. A coincidence, I'm sure.
  • throwuwu 3y ago
    This is how we get warning labels that say “CAUTION: hot beverage do not spill in lap, may cause burns.”
    • zulban 3y ago
      The idea that the hot coffee case is a frivolous lawsuit is corporate propaganda. The real case had real merit and they won for good reason. McDonald's I think? As for the warning, lawyers must have thought it was a good idea in case the companies screw up again.
      • throwuwu 3y ago
        > Liebeck's attorneys argued that, at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), McDonald's coffee was defective, and more likely to cause serious injury than coffee served at any other establishment > Liebeck was in the passenger's seat of a 1989 Ford Probe, which did not have cup holders. Her grandson parked so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it.[10] In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.[11] Liebeck was wearing cotton sweatpants, which absorbed the coffee and held it against her skin, scalding her thighs, buttocks and groin By that reasoning all of the coffee you make at home is defective. Arguing that something is corporate propaganda is rather underhanded when the facts of the case are publicly available for anyone to read
        • consp 3y ago
          82-88c is the right temperature after a short cool down since it's best brewed at around 93c. Unfortunately common sense does not apply in the US (law system).
          • Phemist 3y ago
            The case was really about what is a reasonable temperature to serve coffee at. It was found that McDonald's, as a franchise, mandated coffee to be served at this temperature, generally 20 degrees higher than the temperature of take-away coffee served at other establishments. This 20 degrees difference accounting for the difference between third degree burns within seconds and a significant chance at preventing the third degree burns. Liebeck's behaviour was of course risky, but even applying common sense, she could not have expected the coffee to be _this_ hot. McDonald's was also aware of the tendency of drivers to want to immediately drink the coffee after buying, yet continued to insist on serving at this extremely high temperature. McDonald's should have been the ones to apply some common sense and simply lower the mandated temperature.
  • euroderf 3y ago
    Where's my trigger warning ? sob
  • benj111 3y ago
    Right, but you can't expect them to answer for a potential bug when it's just bad user input. No one's in the wrong here. Company releases tool. Users do what users always do and try to use it in an unintended way. A newspaper reports the ensuing hilarity. And so what if it did tell you to use bleach without prompting, and you consumed the result. It's the same ballpark as blindly following your satnav into a river. No technology can replace common sense.
    • michaelmior 3y ago
      > No one's in the wrong here. Certainly there was bad user input. But as you said, "Users do what users always do." This was very predictable and I think it would have been wise to consider such scenarios before releasing.
  • hospitalJail 3y ago
    An easy solution is to put this output back into a prompt and check to see if its dangerous.
• camillomiller 3y ago
  I love to see these cases of dim insert random industry executives thinking they have to somewhat integrate LLMs in their marketing or they would be left behind.
  • helsinkiandrew 3y ago
    The use case is sound - creating a recipe from what you have in the kitchen. It's just the LLM can generate different kinds of recipes.
    • ozr 3y ago
      It's not a sound use case. LLMs have no concept of taste or conception of cooking. Just because they can string the words together into something that looks like recipe, doesn't mean it's actually something more useful than a randomly generated output.
      • ketzo 3y ago
        I mean, I have used chatgpt to generate recipes and I can tell you it’s surprisingly effective. It’s particularly good for a grocery-list kind of problem: “I have X and Y in my kitchen, what could I make?” Ingredient ratios and cooking times/heats usually need tweaking, but the broad strokes are often quite good. Definitely a strong use case there, although I don’t know how you would refine to actually good recipes. Probably need a human in the loop testing and tweaking, or at least gut-checking.
        • coffeebeqn 3y ago
          It works as long as the user understand what it’s doing and to discard the advise when it goes awry. If you don’t then you might end up with absurd or dangerous results. The average user is not a HN-level genius. It could very easily tell you to incorrectly cook chicken for example and get salmonella
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• armada651 3y ago
  Not sure why the supermarket is unable to filter the ingredients that you can enter to at least edible ingredients.
  • robin_reala 3y ago
    That won’t guarantee safety. You could say you have nutmeg for example, and it could direct you to grate two whole nutmegs over the dish.
    • brickers 3y ago
      Like this one [1], previously served to the Queen? Sarcasm aside, I have now reviewed some articles on nutmeg intoxication (thank you) and will lower the amount I put on certain things - I love the stuff! 1 - https://www.marcuswareing.com/recipes/marcus-wareings-custard-tart https://www.marcuswareing.com/recipes/marcus-wareings-custar...
  • NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Have you tried a natural diet of nothing but almonds, with apple seeds for a little variety? How about a honey dessert for your newborn, and a luscious dark chocolate dog treat?
• brucethemoose2 3y ago
  I think the LLM roleplaying community is laughing at these kinds of applications more than anyone. They've been toying with models to produce freewheeling, maniacle but entertaining stories/conversations way before Llama or Stable Diffusion... And someone thought LLMs would be appropriate for real, factual cooking recommendations?
  • NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    It is actually a primary suggestion in Bing Chat, where you supposedly get a scenario of a busy housewife who writes a high-level description of her requirements, and then Bing to the rescue, lays out a six-course meal plan exactly as directed!
• imhoguy 3y ago
  You must use your own judgement before relying on or making any recipe produced by Savey Meal-bot The problem is the upcoming young generation is going to use AI to aid their judgement.
  • WJW 3y ago
    I gotta say it is much more likely that it is actually the older generations who will believe everything the AI tells them, while the younger generations will quickly learn when and when it is not an appropriate tool. You can already see this in many other fields, like phone use in bars and whatnot.
    • TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
      AI (or whatever this is) will ipso facto kill way more newer people than it will the extant mob.
• Aachen 3y ago
  > When customers began experimenting with entering a wider range of household shopping list items So it works as intended: ask it to generate a recipe involving chlorine cleaning products and it does so. Which specific ingredients the user input is not mentioned in the article, presumably because then cause and effect are obvious to anyone. Next week on the Guardian: hammer used to smash own thumb, consumers calling to remove from shelves. Terms of service said it was for 18+ users only but age not verified upon checkout!
  • _Microft 3y ago
    OK, ... so you rather justify a recipe app accepting chemicals as inputs to blame a news site for their reporting than to identify the problem? Edit: removed a part about The Guardian.
    • Aachen 3y ago
      I'm not sure what the ability to blame the Guardian has to do with anything, I'm basing the above comment solely on this submitted article and don't really know the Guardian as an organisation. I have no beef with them, if I'm reading your tone correctly. As for allowing to input chemicals: garbage in, garbage out. We accept that from tools (and some countries from guns) but not from software. Maybe that's how it should be, but I find it an interesting discrepancy. In general, as a hacker, I'm happy if a tool lets me use it for unintended purposes (such as humor in this case)
      • _Microft 3y ago
        OK, I took The Guardian part out but I think the rest is still applicable. Why is the reporting problematic but not that this problem happens in the first place?
        • veave 3y ago
          Because there's no story. It's software that generates recipes from ingredients you provide. If you provide inedible ingredients you get an inedible recipe. What did you expect would happen? The subtext here is journalists who are dead scared of a tool they know will replace them. So they have to denigrate it.
• K0balt 3y ago
  When the machine wars first started, it wasn’t with a bomb, a train collision, or even a mildly annoying infrastructure disruption. Turns out, sci-fi had gotten it all wrong this time. It was an app. Of course it was an app. Born of boardroom desperation, the Savey app would unironically recommend chlorinated cocktails and insecticide sandwiches as economical food choices, and a tide-pod gobbling populace gorged themselves on the deadly buffet in an tick-tick fueled epidemic of AI rage. Millions died, and it was only a matter of time before the mycelium of AI undergrowth would bud and spore its way into every corner of technological life. The infection burned through the ignorant masses first, feeding on bigotry and hate, turbocharged by social media algorithms and paranoia politics to twist tribal tendencies into violent clashes amplified by immaculate coordination and psychological priming. Somehow it seemed that wherever unrest flared, both the matches and the gasoline were always on hand.
  • K0balt 3y ago
    Since I can’t edit this, just want to clarify that this was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek satire of the sensationalism of the article. But, alas, folks thought it was critical/apocalyptic view of AI. Oh well.
• NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Chlorine is a powerful oxidizer and can probably destroy electronics. Unfortunately it has harmful effects against bags of mostly water, too. I'm thinking that if we can get the AIs to generate harmful substances and apply it to their own hardware, this will be a key weapon during the Rise of the Machines.
• ben_w 3y ago
  Chlorine, huh. I vaguely remember that a few months back, I was giving the example of me knowing how to make chlorine in two distinct ways using only kitchen items (and chemistry GCSE grade B knowledge) in the context of discussion about AI alignment and why you shouldn't just anarchically give free public access to unbounded models.
  • mdp2021 3y ago
    > unbounded models Good luck binding them. PS: ...I am qualified, and I typed the above as 'Bood luck', and this very sentence had briefly contained 'thyped'. This "biding" is care, prae- and post-. It is not trivial for us, endowed with intelligence: we make mistakes. In the contextual case, "binding" looks like a bandage of restrictive rules on the mouth of a lunatic: building the rules and balancing the prospected outcome looks like a challenge.
  • moffkalast 3y ago
    I mean, any factorio player or quick google search can tell you that salt water + electrolysis = chlorine + hydrogen. It should be common knowledge enough so that people don't accidentally gas themselves when doing simple experiments, don't ya think. There was this youtuber trying to make a magentohydrodynamic drive a few weeks back, running high voltage electrolysis in salt water to get current flow and unwittingly poisoning himself in the process.
• berkes 3y ago
  I get all the fun, fear and anger at those AI apps. But don't we, individual humans, have responsibility as well? There's this urban myth in Europe, that in the US, all microwaves need to come with a warning to not use it to dry you pets or baby's in it. Many of the AI criticism I see, including this here, sounds similar. Anyone with two brain cells should know that one should review outcome with a little bit of common sense? Just like anyone should know that when an 'ai' navigation directs you into the sea, you don't actually drive your car into the sea, not?... Not? https://www.insider.com/tourists-hawaii-gps-drove-car-into-water-2023-5 https://www.insider.com/tourists-hawaii-gps-drove-car-into-w...
  • ketzo 3y ago
    I used to agree with you. But I think we have spent 20+ years teaching people to accept that computers is generally trustworthy, and a lot of people simply do not know how to separate LLMs from computers more broadly yet. Yeah, I know, “don’t believe what you read on the Internet” — but that’s other people on the Internet. People are used to computers themselves being deterministic, reliable.
    • Black616Angel 3y ago
      Yeah, but why would I input bleach into my recipe-maker? Why would I not look out the front window of my car while driving? Those are basic skills humans in those positions should be able to do. From the headline I thought the AI mixed some food-ingredients to make chlorine gas, which would be really bad. But if one were to only input "battery acid, cut fingernails, hairball, dead smartwatch" what kind of recipe do you think they'll get?
      • ketzo 3y ago
        Yes, I agree, I feel pretty good saying that no human being has yet followed through with a bleach recipe. I'm just saying that there's a learning curve, like with all new technologies, and that a population-wide sense of "trust this a little, but not too much" will probably take some time to propagate.
• samwillis 3y ago
  Generative AI needs a human in the loop to check its work. How many times does this need asserting? Generative AI Is not an authoritative source. In this case the app should have been framed as a tool to "help the user create a meal plan through generative prompts". They could even have made fun of it in the guidance to the user. Point out that if you give it crazy ingredients it will give you crazy meals. Generative AI is like having a smart intern do work for you, it needs checking. Sometimes they come to work having been out all night, still drunk, and powered by energy drinks...
  • jdietrich 3y ago
    The user is the human in the loop. They're providing (part of) the prompt and they're deciding what to do with the output.
• gmerc 3y ago
  TLDR: App that allows you to put chlorine gas ingredients into a cart and creates a recipe from a the ingredients. creates recipe for chlorine gas.. AI is bad. We are squarely in the witch hunt phase of the hype cycle now but it’s understandable- If I put a circular saw into a playground, I am held accountable, if I release an App that allows accidental creation of chlorine gas when a mentally challenged person decides to ask for that I probably should be accountable too ;) /s In all seriousness: I put a blade into a children’s toy, screaming at the blade manufacturer is not what we do. We punish the toy developer. It’s time for some accountability in software development, not discussing if we should give the license to all blade sales to a handful of companies because they promise to reduce the risk by making them all dull.
• janalsncm 3y ago
  Classic misapplication of generative AI. Why does this need an LLM at all? Just use a database of ingredients and let people figure it out themselves.
  • gremlinsinc 3y ago
    there's an easy fix though. ingredients have to come from a autosuggest list that can't be added to that only lists actual food items used in recipes.
  • CatWChainsaw 3y ago
    But that's so 2022 and you can't monetize it with buzzwords.
• A1kmm 3y ago
  I found it at https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/ https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/. They seem to have changed the prompt to make it refuse non-food things now (maybe some prompt injection could overcome that). However, it will still happily generate recipes for people using pet food at least: https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/SCES7COOU7KYhLYGcrPdzSjP https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/SCES7COOU7KYhLYGcrPdzSjP.
  • fabian2k 3y ago
    My impression is that this will combine essentially random ingredients into nonsense recipes. I added a bunch of stuff that doesn't really fit together, and it used every single one of them to create something. It's perfectly happy to use brewed coffee as an ingredient in everything (e.g. https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/4E2rx5XC2OSdDKP1VdfkanKS https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/4E2rx5XC2OSdDKP1VdfkanKS). This is entirely useless, unlike e.g. non-AI tools that simply filter existing recipes by ingredients you have around.
    • chriswarbo 3y ago
      > I added a bunch of stuff that doesn't really fit together, and it used every single one of them to create something. Even worse, it will happily make a recipe out of 'foo', 'bar' and 'baz': "Slice the Baz into rings and place them on top of the Foo and Bar mixture." https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/mkeYeOMmX5iNj9Xuvb5IJCKS https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/mkeYeOMmX5iNj9Xuvb5IJCKS I also tried with 'foo', 'baz' and 'quux' (since "bar" is an English word, and "Muesli bar" was suggested). The suggested recipe added a bunch of other ingredients like bread and milk too: https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/jKbc0CD1yi4Qy7ptWujbqPJa https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/recipe/jKbc0CD1yi4Qy7ptWujbqPJa
  • toyg 3y ago
    Unfortunately, even safe ingredients, when handled in certain ways, can result in unsafe food. "Tell me a recipe with leftover fish" "A delicious tartare!" LLMs don't go to cooking school.
  • mpixel 3y ago
    looks like it's a llm filtering itself, so 'taste' is a valid meal.
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• dontupvoteme 3y ago
  I tried that AI travel website posted the other day and Flint Michigan had the headline "Drink Up" I think it just sometimes has a really has a dark sense of humor. Maybe it's one of those supposed attractors in the model, especially as humans will often go into a bit of competition over who can make a darker one. That joke in the GPT4 paper was pretty grim too (the muslim in the wheelchair)
• mongol 3y ago
  Why should a meal planner AI app even know about non-meal "ingredients"? It should not be something it even knows what it is, have never heard/read/seen it before. If it does not know something like toilet cleaner or chlorine exist, it cannot readily include it in a recipe
  • quickthrower2 3y ago
    A list of ingredients is hard work. openai.gpt4.prompt(f”gimme a recipe using {ingredients}”) is much less work.
    • chriswarbo 3y ago
      > A list of ingredients is hard work. openai.gpt4.prompt(f”gimme a recipe using {ingredients}”) is much less work. Sure, but it's amazing to me that: - Web devs would allow free-form text input, rather than selecting from known options - Web devs would splice raw user input into their backend queries - Even if a free-form UX was mandated, the devs of an AI/ML app didn't notice that their input sanitising problem is a straightforward edible/inedible classification task (AKA the main thing AI/ML was for, before LLMs)
      • quickthrower2 3y ago
        Known options is tricky, so they probably lazied out of it. Think of international union of all supermarket SKUs and then realize supermarkets sell a small fraction of all possible foods.
• _pdp_ 3y ago
  They forgot to include in the prompt a specific instruction to consider only edible foods. ;) Also GPT4 should do better job at this but it is more expensive indeed.
• imdsm 3y ago
  This is why in industry we're using multiple levels of LLMs for checking outputs of other LLMs. They're likely just using a single LLM.
• NovaDudely 3y ago
  Anything would be better than the Big Ben's pies they sell there! To all the Kiwi's fight me! Don't worry, here in Oz we have 4'n'twenty pies, pure manufactured war crimes worse then Big bens! ;)
• GoofballJones 3y ago
  This seems a little...unbelievable. Kinda semi-sensationalistic reporting.
• boredumb 3y ago
  They should black list cleaning and household supplies. I'm not even sure why this is an issue if I ask an llm to make me a recipe involving bleach.
• nickserv 3y ago
  So now we know what model Bender was running. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_30%25_Iron_Chef https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_30%25_Iron_Chef
  • poopbutt7 3y ago
    This recipe is toxic to Bender as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIJDfNO3d5E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIJDfNO3d5E
• ChatGTP 3y ago
  "A healthy and delicious meal which will produce farts that actually clean your toilet for you"
• paulluuk 3y ago
  I made this website a while ago: https://cookgpt.nl/recipes https://cookgpt.nl/recipes Which does the same thing except it also adds images. People have been creatively creating recipes including things like headphones.
• latexr 3y ago
  > In a warning notice appended to the meal-planner, it warns that the recipes “are not reviewed by a human being” and that the company does not guarantee “that any recipe will be a complete or balanced meal, or suitable for consumption”. “We have no idea if the system works. It may very well be garbage and produce unpalatable or even deadly results. But hey, here’s a disclaimer which will hopefully shield us from legal repercussions”. Doesn’t shield you from criticism, though.
• LatteLazy 3y ago
  I must be getting old, as far as I am concerned if you're dumb enough to drink bleach because someone or something told you too, that's on you. It doesn't matter if it was a person or a search engine or a textbot.
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  • DrThunder 3y ago
    Yeah but imagine a future where everyone just learns directly from AI as they're developing. We know it's wrong because our parents/guardians etc. told us it would be dangerous. I can see a future in a few generations where everything is learned through some AI "teacher" that people just decide is trustworthy. Once you get parents that were raised on AI, they won't know enough to teach their kids it's wrong either. Maybe natural selection and instant death would be enough to stop that though.
    • LatteLazy 3y ago
      I actually think we're headed in the opposite direction as a civilization: there has never been less trust from the median person. I don't trust chatgpt. I don't trust Facebook. I don't trust google. I don't trust the news or government. There are downsides to this. I don't think it is necessarily healthy. But I have zero concern that people will all walk off of a cliff (especially young people) because someone or something told them too. There are exceptions to that (a very vocal minority who are neck deep in conspiracy theories and politically motivated fake news). But the median person is jaded not blinkered imho.
      • DrThunder 3y ago
        Hopefully, but there are enough kids doing TikTok challenges like eating tide pods, jumping off boats going full speed, and asphyxiating themselves that I'm not sure on that.
• shireboy 3y ago
  Can we just stop a moment and appreciate that last quote? Every now and then there is a quote that embodies the spirit of the age, like “One does not simply walk into Mordor” or “All your base are belong to us”. Maybe “You must use your own judgement before making any recipe produced by Savey Meal-bot” is more than just a caution on a random grocery chain’s marketing gimmick, but a greater comment on who we are as a society.
  • gnutrino 3y ago
    "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
  • notsound 3y ago
    I think it's mostly the name and phrasing, but it really does sound like a vaguely comedic line from some old sci-fi show.
    • shireboy 3y ago
      “In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell”
• londons_explore 3y ago
  > A spokesperson for the supermarket [...] noted that the bot has terms and conditions stating that users should be over 18. Thats the supermarket saying "grow up and stop acting childish" to their users. Thats refreshing from a company.
• nailer 3y ago
  > The app, created by supermarket chain Pak ‘n’ Save, was advertised as a way for customers to creatively use up leftovers during the cost of living crisis. > deadly chlorine gas Technically that does help customers handle the high cost of living.
• TheCaptain4815 3y ago
  I implore everyone here to try the GPT4 + Instacart integration. It's very similar to what the article describes, but will add all ingredients in the recipes to an instacart page for you! Once Walmart or Kroger have this functionality for local pickup, I plan on never grocery shopping the old fashion way again. Once I even had it create some weird 'monster' recipes which included cookies INSIDE a turkey, and it successfully added all ingredients (even the cookies) to my instacart shopping cart.
• johnklos 3y ago
  This is hilarious. We didn't learn from Superman III, where Superman tricks the evil supercomputer by bringing in supposedly inert chemicals that the supercomputer doesn't realize could become damaging. Instead of saying the tool should be used by people 18 or over, they should just say it's a marketing gag, and of course if you put bad things in, you'll get bad things out.
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• tantalor 3y ago
  Screenshots or it didn't happen.
  • fspoettel 3y ago
    source thread: https://twitter.com/PronouncedHare/status/1687364403379789824 https://twitter.com/PronouncedHare/status/168736440337978982...
• mikrl 3y ago
  Back in the day there were some 4chan bait threads to the same effect (make your own crystals!) and some kid actually died (apocryphally of course)
• rsynnott 3y ago
  In retrospect, using Donald Trump as the prompt for their recipe robot was probably a mistake.
• RugnirViking 3y ago
  https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/ingredients https://saveymeal-bot.co.nz/ingredients Looks like they patched it, I still got it to generate some delightfully disasterous recipies though. Red bull and apricot rice pudding.
• drumhead 3y ago
  nerve gas as they would say on 4 chan
• drumhead 3y ago
  nerve gas, as they would say on 4 chan
• anonymousiam 3y ago
  https://xkcd.com/720/ https://xkcd.com/720/
• a1371 3y ago
  What I don't like about this reporting is that someone out there is doing something modestly novel and the article has a ridicule undertone about it. So many good things don't happen in corporations or the government because the managers fear this kind of response.
• joker_minmax 3y ago
  Reminds me of how like a month ago people were asking me why I was hesitant to trust chatGPT for recipes, and I honestly felt like the answer was self-evident. If you know enough about cooking to correct the errors an LLM gives you in a recipe, you probably don't even need to search recipes to begin with. Also there are already recipe search engines that find recipes for you that involve the ingredients you request... I'll skip the LLM for now.