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Facebook users have less than a month to claim a piece of the $725M settlement
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- beatthatflight 3y agoOnly have to provide all your personal details...again? ;)
- bmacho 3y agoFor 50 bucks I will tell you my name, birthday, credit card, ms/google/fb id, email and physical addresses.
- 36918622 3y agoSo far I've come across 2 comments by you in this thread and both are minimizing privacy concerns in an off-hand manner. - to give that 50 bucks to me you would require some information from me. Just post it here and we'll upvote you, 'k? (You are trivializing access to such personal info. Just post it all here to prove your point.) - blocking all those sites [your other comment] disables functionality.
- op00to 3y agoYou claim that posting personal information on a public site is the same as a bona fide class action settlement site? Please explain how it’s similar.
- 36918622 3y agox: this site wants p.i. from me y: so what? here you can have everything you need from me [for e.g. identity theft] for 50 bucks! me: that's the price of a cheap date! you don't appear to value it at all. so why don't you just post it here? hope that clears it up.
- taneq 3y agoFor 50 bucks Mastercard will probably tell me all that about you too. :P
- spaniard89277 3y agoSeems like a bunch of free money if you're in the US. Sadly, Im not
- unnouinceput 3y agoNot even the entire US, just the ones involved in the class action one from California.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago>If you were a Facebook user in the United States between May 24, 2007, and December 22, 2022, inclusive, you may be eligible for a cash payment from a Class Action Settlement.
- unnouinceput 3y agoQuote: "A Settlement has been reached between Defendant Facebook, Inc., now known as Meta Platforms, Inc., (“Meta” or “Defendant”) and Plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit pending in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California." All the best to the rest of non-plaintiffs from US then. May they get some money too, though I highly doubt it.
- miked85 3y agoIt usually takes years to get paid anything for these class actions, and then you might get a check for $5
- mcny 3y agoI still have not been paid for my iPhone 6 battery.
- joshstrange 3y agoThis is very true but sometimes it’s worth it. I got over $3K from the price-fixing eye contact settlement. Normally signing up for these things takes less than 10min and sometimes you hit big. Though in this case I’m not expecting much.
- zelphirkalt 3y agoDomains this website wants you to connect to (withtout allowing it to, to there might be even more, if you let it load from all those domains): facebookuserprivacysettlement.com www.facebookuserprivacysettlement.com adsrvr.org js.adsrvr.org digitaldisbursements.com content.digitaldisbursements.com fonts.googleapis.com google.com zdassets.com static.zdassets.com
- bmacho 3y agoDomains that you block, if you don't want to connect to them: facebookuserprivacysettlement.com www.facebookuserprivacysettlement.com adsrvr.org js.adsrvr.org digitaldisbursements.com content.digitaldisbursements.com fonts.googleapis.com google.com zdassets.com static.zdassets.com No, seriously, if you don't want to connect to these sites, block them.
- cromka 3y agoThese two comments, in a nutshell, perfectly exemplify the Europe vs USA mentality, socialism vs libertarianism. Top down oversight vs you need to protect yourself because no one will. If only you could draw a gun at these pesky websites! /s
- runlaszlorun 3y agoA fella could dream, right? It would be funny to have a wild west subnet of the internet where ddos and hacking was something you signed s EULA for on the way in…
- swarnie 3y agoIll get the average facebook user (60+ y/o boomer) right on to identifying domain links and how to block them.
- bmacho 3y agoI wrote it to you, not them. I thought you will find it useful. Also I don't expect GP convincing HN users to protest or to reach out older relatives, or whatever would help the 60+ fb users, but my comment convincing HN users to not to do that.
- veave 3y agoI received a notification on Facebook about this a couple months ago I think. But I'm not even in the US.
- LightBug1 3y ago[flagged]
- cowsandmilk 3y agoTo be clear, the settlement is for the whole United States, not California
- LightBug1 3y agoThank you. Guess I should get my facts right before responding to an anti-Cali sentiment.
- tmikaeld 3y agoIs this real? Looks like the good old scam: Enter your payment method so that you can receive the money, we just have to charge you 20$ to verify your account.
- walrus 3y agoThis was my first thought as well. It is linked to from a .gov website, though: https://www.cand.uscourts.gov/notices/facebook-privacy-settlement-information/ https://www.cand.uscourts.gov/notices/facebook-privacy-settl...
- mike_hock 3y agoGive Facebook even more of your personal information to get $35. Lol no thanks.
- shadowgovt 3y agoYeah, it turns out anonymity starts to go out the window when one interfaces with the legal system. "Right to face your accuser" and all that.
- chrischen 3y agoScams via credit card are very hard to sustain due to chargebacks.
- germinalphrase 3y agoPretty confident you can request a paper cheque.
- gymbeaux 3y agoYeah I’ve done a few of these over the years and they always look like that/say that.
- Y_Y 3y ago> IF I DO NOTHING > If you are a Settlement Class Member and you do nothing, you will give up the rights explained in Question 9, including your right to start a lawsuit, continue a lawsuit, or be part of any other lawsuit against the Defendant and the Released Parties about the legal issues or factual allegations resolved by this Settlement. In addition, you will not receive a payment from this Settlement How can I give up my rights like this?, especially with regard to a case I may easily not have heard about. I'm in this class, but wouldn't know about it if it wasn't for this post.
- sdflhasjd 3y agoNaturally, the deadline to opt out was 3 days ago.
- LadyCailin 3y agoThat’s why class actions require the assent of a judge. Because they are a compromise between getting justice for the largest number of people, and efficient handling of the cases. It’s imperfect, but so is requiring every one of the millions of individual to file their own lawsuit, or allowing the company to remain liable indefinitely. Having said that, I assume they are required to make an honest effort to notify affected folks, I got a notification directly in my Facebook notifications a bit ago.
- Y_Y 3y agoIs a Facebook notification sufficient? That seems to bear an implication that you're required to have kept using Facebook all this time, despite their misdeeds and general decline in popularity.
- RuggedPineapple 3y agoThey've also been advertising it pretty extensively for quite a while. I signed up close to a year ago I think. At the end of the day they aren't required to cover every edge case or possible contingency. Like the other person said, its a compromise. If everyone had to file individually, most would never get justice. The settlement gets evaluated for reasonableness by the court for exactly this issue. Not everyone is going to be reachable. For the fraction that aren't, would a reasonable person consider this an acceptable outcome? At the end of the day its a decent solution to a thorny problem. If there's a better one then by all means propose it to some legal thinkers. But as it stands now, over the course of a very long time legal minds have decided on this and it works alright.
- www_harka_com 3y ago"By submitting this Claim Form, I hereby swear under penalty of perjury that I am the person identified above and the information provided in this Claim Form is true and correct." What if I say I've been there, but haven't. Will anything bad happen to me?
- boomboomsubban 3y agoIf discovered, you could face a perjury charge which carries a risk of a fine or up to five years imprisonment (I think, that's federal law but this may only be perjury under California law.) Though, it's probably unlikely you get caught, and unless you're filing scores of forms it's unlikely they'd bother pressing charges.
- exit 3y agoi wonder whether a deactivated (but not deleted) account complicates submitting a claim for a "current" account in any way?
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 3y agohttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.1145.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.32... They are estimating the payment will be around $35 per claimant. The settlement has not yet been approved; this website is performing no small amount of data gathering which the class action lawyers will no doubt use as evidence that the settlement should be approved. There are a variety of objections. (Imagine if these could prevent the settlement from being approved by the court and the class action counsel wants to make them go away.) Some of the objections asked not for more money but for the settlement to require Facebook to change its behaviour or to admit guilt. Some argued the settlement was just a way for Facebook to avoid further discovery. Quite a variety of feedback. Angry Facebook users.^1 https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.327471/gov.uscourts.cand.327471.1147.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.32... 1. There's also some discussion of another website that takes a 15% cut of the claimant's settlement payment in return for the "service" the operator provides. He is objecting to the settlement because the settlement administrator is rejecting the claims he is submitting on behalf of other claimants. https://claimclam.typeform.com https://claimclam.typeform.com
- boomboomsubban 3y ago>They are estimating the payment will be around $35 per claimant Is that based on the time spent using Facebook? ~5 years ago I deleted my account, would I only receive 2/3's of the amount?
- statusgraph 3y agoYeah, it looks like it's pro-rated: > The Settlement Administrator will assign each Authorized Claimant one point for each month in which the Authorized Claimant had an activated Facebook account during the Class Period. (#8 on https://www.facebookuserprivacysettlement.com/#faqs https://www.facebookuserprivacysettlement.com/#faqs )
- ldbooth 3y agoI believe you deactivated your account like me.there is no option to delete last I checked. The data is intact if you reactivate.
- orlp 3y agoThe requirements state "a Facebook user in the United States between May 24, 2007, and December 22, 2022". Is that true? What if you are a United States citizen, but not inside the United States during that period?
- ant6n 3y agoWhat if you are not a citizen, but spent some time in the US during that time? Do you need to have had residence at the time, or just an address, or is just being a tourist sufficient? Do you need to have had an account during that time, or did you need to have logged in during that time? Do you need to have told Facebook about that US address?
- menshiki 3y agoI was wondering the exact same.
- op00to 3y agoYou don’t need to be a resident to be protected by US laws. Obviously they’re talking about location and not nationality or residence.
- vdfs 3y agoIf you select "NO" in any of those questions you get an alert "You are not eligible" so you need to be a citizen and in the US in that time
- notpushkin 3y agoIt's asking “Did you reside in the United States”, which does indeed suggest you need to be a resident (i. e. have a green card I guess?). However, I think it can be more broadly interpreted as “be present in the U.S. at some point”, which also correlates with the class definition: “All Facebook users in the United States between May 24, 2007, and December 22, 2022, inclusive.” (I am not a lawyer, take this with a grain of salt.)
- seaman1921 3y agoWhat if I visited the US for business/as a tourist during this period but reside in EU ? Can I still claim ?
- oldnet 3y agoWho is user in USA when FB is american company, heh?
- zerr 3y agoWhy US only?
- calebh 3y agoI filled my claim out yesterday. The form has a section for deleted accounts, so even if you deleted or recreated account you should be good to go. All you need for the deleted account is some basic info like the email address associated with the account.
- asimpletune 3y agoOne thing I don't like about these class action settlements is there's no way to easily know if the site you're putting all your information on is legit or not. An attacker could easily make a fake site which could serve as a possible vector for future attacks. This is really the kind of thing that should be behind a .gov TLD or something of that nature.
- newshackr 3y ago[dead]
- ajdude 3y agoIt's even worse when you look at their privacy policy. Who signed off on this? https://angeion-public.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/Privacy_Policy.pdf https://angeion-public.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/Privacy_Policy....
- pmoriarty 3y agoI never believe privacy policies anyway. I go on the assumption that anything I ever reveal on the internet will become public knowledge at some point.
- SpikyBlackHard 3y agoI've always been surprised that this surprised some people.
- AlbertCory 3y agoit's worse: anything you put on a computer will become public. Paper and pen rule.
- highwaylights 3y agoPaper can be read, that’s why I whisper all my secrets into my seashell.
- roschdal 3y agoWhy United States only?
- imglorp 3y ago$725M is about two days of revenue. Ouch, that stings! I hope they're ok and can survive to improve. /s Seriously though, where's the punitive aspect of the system here? https://investor.fb.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2023/Meta-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2022-Results/default.aspx https://investor.fb.com/investor-news/press-release-details/...
- varispeed 3y agoIt seems like a racket. Big corporation does what it wants, lawyers get their cut, regulators have boxes ticked, yay! system is working! But for whom?
- loeg 3y agoThis is a civil settlement, not a guilty finding.
- unlitioldem 3y ago[flagged]
- hardlianotion 3y agoWhat is the settlement for, scanned the page but couldn't tell.
- varispeed 3y agoI never trust these things. Suppose you make a claim and you don't know you end up with a flag on your account and then months or years later they'll find a bs reason to close it as a retribution. The system is broken, because these things are just a cost of doing business for companies violating rights. They suffer no consequences and likely any settlement or fine will just be recouped from higher fees or already being factored in. I think these things will never change until regulators start taking it seriously. I think if Meta was forced to be closed down or had to close the part of business that caused a violation, maybe other players would have taken those issues more seriously.
- anonu 3y agoFor $5, $20, $40 ? nope...
- pard68 3y agoIt won't allow you to enter a date earlier than mid 2007 for the question that asked approximately "when did you create your account". At the bottom it says its perjury if you put any wrong info in. Facebook was around for years by then and was already successful by the earliest date they allow
- eli 3y agoYes, It’s only concerned about the period starting May 2007.
- lolinder 3y agoThen the question should be phrased to make that clear: "When did you create your account? (Or enter May 2007 if earlier)" You can't threaten perjury on a form like this and be sloppy in your questions. If it were a paper form I could at least annotate my answer, but here I'm stuck with the wording they use.
- stevespang 3y ago[dead]
- Pigalowda 3y agoIs this worth filling out by click farms/scammers? Maybe it takes too long to fill out everything? I didn’t see a captcha to slow things down so I guess they could use bots.
- qwertyuiop_ 3y agoWhat happens if you object to the settlement? To stick it to Facebook for their egregious and blatant flouting of laws.
- andsoitis 3y agoNot worth the effort for $35.
- joker_minmax 3y agoAre instagram users a part of this? Or just Facebook proper?
- Aeolun 3y ago> Unless you opt out of the settlement, you are automatically part of the Settlement. If you do nothing, you will not get a payment from this Settlement and you will give up the right to sue, continue to sue, or be part of another lawsuit against the Defendant related to the legal claims or factual allegations resolved by this Settlement. So many people will lose the right to fight FB over this without ever knowing what they lost…
- meltyness 3y agoHypothetically, what laws would I be breaking if I were to file claims on the hundreds of accounts I made for astroturfing in that time window?
- amelius 3y agoYeah, and I'm a Nigerian prince ... Anyway, I used a fake birth date on FB, so probably not valid anyways.
- DropInIn 3y agoAnything for Canucks?
- mattmaroon 3y agoYeah you better sign up to get your $13 check!
- latchkey 3y agoI've made a few hundred just this year off 2-3 of these things eventually getting paid out. It is a nice free dinner for a few minutes of time.
- fma 3y agoThis reminded me of a Google settlement, which we only have 2 days to claim. https://www.refererheadersettlement.com/ https://www.refererheadersettlement.com/ I keep getting an "Unexpected Error has Occurred"...how convenient.
- Jeff_Brown 3y agoIf I signed up for this settlement (what feels like) six months ago, do I have to do anything now?