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A full episode of South Park generated by AI
- RyanAdamas 3y agoSo much for the writers strike; also love how Cartman's voice is becoming more like the others given AI has to track Parker's voice changes over the years.
- dvngnt_ 3y agonot yet. the writing isn't professional quality. might help for drafting though
- nradov 3y agoAnd that is one of the main issues in the current WGA strike. Under the previous contract, writers were paid less for editing an existing script than for writing an original script. They are worried that producers will cut their incomes by using AI to write rough drafts, then pass it over to human writers to redo.
- wonderwonder 3y agoI read a claim stating that studios were requesting that actors sign over their ai generated likeness to the studios in perpetuity. Which if accurate is insane. Dude could appear for 5 minutes in a movie as an extra, get paid $500 and then never get paid again but show up in hundreds of movies.
- ars 3y agoWhy is that insane? He worked for 5 minutes only. Most people don't get paid over and over for working just once. And in any case it would be easy enough to create a hybrid likeness that combines a few people, with the final result looking like none of them, if you have an issue with the image of someone being used.
- stonogo 3y agoHow the hell do you build an acting career if the studios can just photgraph you once and then use your likeness forever? It's obviously exploitative. This is why unions exist.
- ars 3y agoIt's not meant for people who are planning an acting career. There's only like 10,000 or so people in the entire guild who have an acting career (using SAG-AFTRA's figures), the rest only do it occasionally. And of those, barely 3,000 actually make any real money. Acting is not really a viable job career in general, except for those few who get lucky. > This is why unions exist. I know, they exist to keep their members in jobs. But the world is changing, and their jobs are changing.
- RyanAdamas 3y agoI don't think you understand what the future holds. Everyone can have a studio scan their bodies and faces and then they can be the ones in the movies. No more actors.
- wonderwonder 3y agoHe works for 5 minutes because he is never hired again because they have rights to his likeness and can just drop an animated him into any movie. They could make him the main actor in a block buster and he gets $0.
- jeron 3y agoif you showed this to the studios and told them that it would only get better from here, I think the strike may never end - the promise of infinitely generated TV ready writing is something studios would find irresistible
- BasedAnon 3y agothat is until AI obsoletes the TV format entirely because it can produce new content constantly
- ars 3y agoThe studios know about this, and yes, that's what they are expecting. But I expect the AI will always require adjustments from humans, not AI on its own. And that's what the studio's want: AI output, with edits from humans, including both writers and actors. And that's exactly what the union doesn't want, and they are right, this will mean a significant change in their jobs. But time moves on, and technology gets better. They might be able to delay this (I expect a contract without AI, for now), but as soon as some independent studio starts creating good AI+human output the studios aren't going to do that again.
- nemo44x 3y agoWhy do we need the studios then?
- mattl 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36781061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36781061
- hotdogscout 3y agoGPT-4 is too politically correct to emulate South Park and it shows.
- all2 3y agoThere's a dead comment here that mentions the political correctness of the model used to generate the episode. I think this is valid criticism, especially because efforts to "clean" training data of limiting ideologies has shown some fruit.
- scarface_74 3y agoYeah, all of my previous jailbreaks like my Andrew Dice Clay one stopped working. I use to be able to get it to say crazy stuff about either Obama or Trump. But I can’t break it anymore. On the other hand “PC” is usually used by the Right. I couldn’t get it to say anything that’s not neutral.
- RajT88 3y agoIn its current form, it was adopted by the right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness For my money, I've yet to get a coherent answer as to why a simple ask regarding common courtesy ("don't be a dick to people who aren't like you") is a bad thing. People immediately shoot off on tangents about freedom of speech, and "Cultural Marxism" (lol) and what-have-you.
- hotdogscout 3y agoIt's probably a matter of exposure. Would you apply "don't be a dick to people who aren't like you" to cis people? To white people? It's generally where the friction is at. Some people call it Cultural Marxism because Marxism excuses violence when done by the proletariat against the bourgeois and some leftists excuse violence from "oppressed" identities towards "oppressor" identities.
- RajT88 3y ago> Some people call it Cultural Marxism because Marxism excuses violence when done by the proletariat against the bourgeois and some leftists excuse violence from "oppressed" identities towards "oppressor" identities. There's rather more to that turn of phrase than you are aware of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_th...
- xivzgrev 3y agoWow that’s actually better than I expected. The Seinfeld show was awkward and clearly AI. The scene with the pig was actually funny - the AI only tells racist jokes because it’s trained on the internet. Assuming AI came up with that, that’s amazing
- gdcohen 3y agoWhat's amazing to me is that without reading (watching?) too much into it, and me not being a seasoned South Park viewer, this could easily pass as a real episode.
- latexr 3y ago> this could easily pass as a real episode. Hard disagree. The animation, pacing, sound, everything is of considerable lower quality. You can watch full episodes on their website to compare. https://www.southparkstudios.com/seasons/south-park https://www.southparkstudios.com/seasons/south-park
- joe_the_user 3y agoSkimming the video, 100% of the dialog was plodding, tedious, unfunny and predictable. I don't know South Park very well but I know snappy dialog is somewhat needed. Just as much, endless vacuous paragraphs on the potential and dangers of AI seems unlikely to be what sustains interest in show.
- kristofferR 3y agoThey actually had an episode about "the dangers of AI" recently (the boys used ChatGPT to avoid having to text with their needy girlfriends), it was VASTLY better than this fan made one. https://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/8byci4/south-park-deep-learning-season-26-ep-4 https://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/8byci4/south-park-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvrg1SJhL_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvrg1SJhL_Q
- 93po 3y agoHaving played with ChatGPT a lot to generate scripts, this episode is as boring and formulaic as every other script it generates. Cartman uses the word "baby" at the end of a sentence, as an example, which is wildly out of character for him.
- CSMastermind 3y agoDiscussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36782314 I'll readd my comment from that thread: This isn't AI generated it was created with some assistance from AI. They used AI to generate character dialog and voices (easily the worst parts of the video) while the humans guided the plot and picked the lines of dialog that would be used. The backgrounds were AI generated in collaboration with humans iterating on the prompt and hand selecting the results. The characters were animated traditionally including the intro.
- bryancoxwell 3y agoSounds like more work than making an episode without AI to be honest.
- TillE 3y agoGiven that they were originally cranking episodes out in less than a week, yeah probably. I remember being astonished when their Elian Gonzalez episode aired four days after the raid, directly referencing it.
- philjohn 3y agoTake a look at the documentary "Six days to air", where they follow the making of the Human Cent-ipad episode.
- pests 3y agoI remember the same for the Terri Schiavo fiasco.
- 93po 3y agoThey weren't cranking out episodes in a week. They cranked out a single episode that was largely already written and planned in a week.
- joe_the_user 3y agoThe dialogue seems obviously terrible and especially terrible for what's supposed to be a show with a "dark, surreal humor that satirizes a large range of subject matter". 80% of the discussion involved earnest regurgitation of for-and-against arguments for the use of AI. I presume if AI hadn't been the topic then it would have the characters talk about the merits and drawbacks of mid-range jets for small airlines or similarly exciting topics.
- binkHN 3y agoOh dear. I see a wave of horrible AI-generated cartoon videos targeting kids coming to a YouTube near you soon…
- postsantum 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate
- teawrecks 3y agoyeah it feels like we've already hit rock bottom as far as child content on YouTube...i don't want to be proven wrong though.
- Imnimo 3y agoThis paper rings a lot of alarm bells for me. It's rambling, written in a very odd style, and contains a lot of useless figures. Is this one of those fake paper pranks or something?
- CSMastermind 3y agoYou know that would actually be meta level genius if this is really an experiment in seeing if AI can generate a paper that will get accepted.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoThat's been done already, and long before chatGPT
- stephencoyner 3y agoIt seems like it could well be fake. The Twitter account that launched this paper [1] links to a website [2] for the company with a fake address and what seems like fake employees (they all have no LinkedIn profiles). The address is 500 Baudrillard Drive, San Francisco, CA 94127 which doesn't exist, but Jean Baudrillard [3] was a French sociologist and philosopher focused on media, culture, technological communication, and the concept of “hyperreality” 1: https://twitter.com/fablesimulation https://twitter.com/fablesimulation 2: https://www.thesimulation.co/ https://www.thesimulation.co/ 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard
- joe_the_user 3y agoIronically, while the paper is incoherent, it's weird terminology and reasoning makes it more entertaining than the generated episode: "While using and prompting a large language model as part of the process can introduce "several30 challenges". Some of them, like hallucinations, which introduce uncertainty or in more creative terms "unexpectedness", can be regarded as creative side-effects to influence the expected story outcome in positive ways."
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- yardshop 3y agoIf it gets any better, then Matt and Trey can really say: Dey dook rr jerbs!!
- red-iron-pine 3y agotoook ur jorbs! but seriously tho, would be a great crossover episode
- cwkoss 3y agoWeird watching south park with zero humor in it. Its giving 'pokemon go to the polls' energy - people using a random pop culture reference to flaccidly try to promote their ideological preference. I hated it, and was only impressed until I realized how much manual human labor went into its construction. The editorial influence of the humans involved was far too heavy handed. I would have preferred something alien, weird and incoherent. Here's an example of what AI can actually do - full synthesis of script, visuals and audio. It is incoherent but also strangely unsettling: https://www.tiktok.com/@never_ever_never_land/video/7253149022129638682 https://www.tiktok.com/@never_ever_never_land/video/72531490...
- idonotknowwhy 3y agoThat video you linked looks like homeland season 1!
- lazyweb 3y agoWow, incredible video. That's what I imagine could be the last few seconds of semi conscious hallucination by some poor Warhammer40K space traveller during a gellar field failure.
- SV_BubbleTime 3y agoIDK about anything else, but Mett Porker is pretty damn funny.
- theptip 3y ago> The Slot Machine Effect refers to a scenario where the generation of AI-produced content feels more like a random game of chance rather than a deliberate creative process. This is due to the often unpredictable and instantaneous nature of the generation process. Current off-the-shelf generative AI systems do not support or encourage multiple creative evaluation steps in context of a long-term creative goal I’m really interested to see the new UIs we come up for this. Rather than a sequential conversation, perhaps more like a tree of possible dialogs/scenes.
- Dwedit 3y agoAI Cartman sounds absolutely nothing like Cartman.
- demaga 3y agoIt would be OK-ish if it was purely AI-generated. But given how much manual effort it took to create this, it is not that impressive.
- mvdtnz 3y agoI don't think writers have much to worry about for a long long time. Nor animators.
- stevefan1999 3y agoMy childhood relived :)
- htk 3y agoMisleading title.