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Celebrities after over 14 years

219 points by graeme 3y ago

oneTbrain23 3y ago
Mod has too much power. Give paying reddit user to have ability to vote out Mod. It is a public commercial space not a US constitutions. If I pay, then I should have power to demote Mod. Yes, this swing to those that can pay. But that is life. If you are dirt poor, living in the middle of deserts far from any voting booth, do you think you can vote even if you have rights to do so? Or, you slender anyone you like on the pretext of #1 do you think you get away scot free if you are dirt poor? Or how about #2? You can own guns, bullets and even trained like John Wick if you are dirt poor? Then how come being a Mod even if you are dirt poor get to have so much power over a squated reddit namespace you dont own or even pay anything.
graeme 3y ago
Subreddit was shut down while mod team worked on an anti-CSAM bot to help moderate after reddit announced the shutdown of existing tools. Imagine there’s a bit more to the story: tools only shut down June 30th. But still notable. Shutdown obviously hurting Reddit still if they’re resorting to such measures and taking such risks.
- Zetobal 3y ago
  there are mod tools that deleted their api keys in protest last week.
bottlepalm 3y ago
What's with the mostly nsfw content? Was that part of the r/celebrities protest?
- testmasterflex 3y ago
  Yes together with manipulating images to include the face of John Oliver
  - zimpenfish 3y ago
    This is making me tremendously sad that the writer's strike[1] is blocking new episodes of Last Week Tonight because good lord, that would be AN EPISODE where he covers this. [1] Which I fully support, mind.
- Quarrel 3y ago
  It is part of a campaign based on the fact that Reddit doesn't run ads against NSFW content, so high user count subs can mark everything NSFW (whether it is or not) and hurt Reddit in their cashflow. For some of the subreddits this isn't as far fetched as for others; /r/videos is more of a work to rule to protest given they're now taking swearing very seriously. You have to think of the 14 year old kids that use reddit.
  - ploum 3y ago
    As 14 yo are very rarely at work, NSFW means that the content is for them, right? Or they understood it mean something larger and, as every 14 yo on earth, they will happily comply and never open content which is marked "please do not open if you are not an adult".
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      Don't worry, 14 yo won't even get a chance to be exposed to this content - that's what age verification pages are good for, and Internet users are well-known for only ever submitting their actual date of birth on those pages.
leoedin 3y ago
It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a category of posts about celebrities. They don't really care who moderates it. It's a similar situation for things like region/city specific subreddits. The users don't really care about the culture, they just want someone to delete the spam. When the moderators start shutting it down, or threatening to move the community elsewhere, the users mostly end up thinking "who elected you anyway?" The community subreddits are different - they often have a much more defined culture and purpose. Those are the ones which, if the moderators give up, will die. It seems like Reddit is betting that most subreddits are the category kind - and they're probably right. But the community subreddits are likely to be lost.
- veave 3y ago
  >The community subreddits are different - they often have a much more defined culture and purpose. Those are the ones which, if the moderators give up, will die. I am in some "community" subreddits and moderators are just there to enforce the rules that they made up and not everybody necessarily agree with. As an example, it's very common to have vague rules that silence some flavour of on-topic conversations... and then they are arbitrarily enforced, depending on whether the mod likes or dislikes where the conversation is going. In my opinion, if mods from small subs were gone, that would be a huge positive. I'm glad that this abusive relationship of mods who think they own the entire community (including the users) and treat it as their fiefdom is coming to an end. Just the fact that they are shutting down entire communities shows the level of entitlement they have over the community they moderate. Doing a lot of unpaid labour doesn't entitle you to anything, but it does indeed show the kind of person that you are.
  - oblio 3y ago
    Some of the smaller communities only exist because someone created and promoted them, set ground rules, etc. In the olden days the subreddit would be their personal PHPBB forum. Now they are just sharecroppers for Reddit, and guess what, Reddit isn't a better admin.
drumhead 3y ago
So they just expelled one of the people that helped make Reddit what it is today? No loyalty at all is there.
- tinus_hn 3y ago
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  - nindalf 3y ago
    They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.
    - yanderekko 3y ago
      >They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.
      - lijok 3y ago
        > Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API. Practically, and literally impossible. There's CP and other illegal material being posted in these subs every second. Without API access, you have to have dozens of moderators at all times checking every single incoming post.
        kristopolous 3y ago
        Not to mention spam. There's lots of bots posting just avalanches of garbage upvoted by click farms. It's like these people are coming in driving cars and Reddit management is offering a sturdy pair of walking shoes to try to keep up with them.
Sentionolo 3y ago
I have no clue what moderates really do and I have not seen any difference yet on reddit.
- yootyootr 3y ago
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  - Sentionolo 3y ago
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- password54321 3y ago
  Not much. Plenty of nonsense posts/comments are ignored by moderators but the community just downvotes them mostly out of sight. I would say the community itself does most of the work and always has been the case.
  - rospaya 3y ago
    You could not be more wrong. The work is mostly invisible to end users.
    - password54321 3y ago
      Not really. Sort by new and take a look yourself. Nonsense posts get downvoted before a moderator has to do anything. People who sort by top or whatever never see it.
      - machinawhite 3y ago
        Most sort by top so it is in fact mostly invisible
      - rospaya 3y ago
        I moderated a subreddit that went from 50k to 200k subscribers and a lot of automation makes it easier to handle standard spam, but 5-6 mods still spent a few hours every day to make it work. This doesn't show up in any sorting. That's why I left.
deleted 3y ago
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jwmoz 3y ago
Probably a good thing.
mvdtnz 3y ago
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- yanderekko 3y ago
  Yeah, the dude politely asked for 4-6 weeks of closure time.. hard to believe that he expected Reddit to find this reasonable. Unfortunately, the admins probably lack bandwidth to go back and forth on these things and so they just yeeted the top mod rather than tell him that's unacceptable.
- lou1306 3y ago
  At the same time, Reddit entirely depends on these people to keep these segments of website safe and decent (not to mention ad-friendly). And these people depended on efficient 3rd party tools to carry out this form of free labor. It is a much more delicate balance of power than what is found on most other social platforms. Some described (aptly in my view) this status quo as more akin to feudalism than to a nation state. Yeah the "land" may belong to you, but being nice to your stewards goes a long way if you want your head to remain attached to your neck.
- rospaya 3y ago
  And at the same time, reddit has the balls to advertise itself as s great place to build a community for your product or company. How can anyone trust them not to take over your community when they feel like it?
- cr3ative 3y ago
  > a segment of their website? It's not yours. It never was. That's really not been the ethos advertised to moderators until now; it was more that unless you caused site instability (legal or otherwise) it was yours to run as you please. You may be speaking a literal truth, but the emotive background is relevant here.
poulpy123 3y ago
I don't even understand why they continue to work from free for people that do not even have the beginning of a care for them
- throwaway71271 3y ago
  wealth fame power? (or they just find joy in being of service to others)
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  I don't want to call it a cult, but there's a lot of stuff people will do, even to their objective personal cost, if it lets them benefit from a social perspective (be it real social value or perceived). No one becomes a community manager because it pays well.
- Tangurena2 3y ago
  The mindset is encapsulated in the phrase "Today you, tomorrow me." https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2020/11/13/today-you-tomorrow-me https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2020/11/13/today-you-tomo... https://youtu.be/3vzkw2zD7gE?t=210 https://youtu.be/3vzkw2zD7gE?t=210
- faeriechangling 3y ago
  When I actively moderated Reddit I was long term unemployed and considered it community service (aware that Reddit is privately owned) and tried to organize information (faq/sticky/tags/sidebar/etc) and moderate to create something useful and helpful to the general public. Looking back though, it’s odd to me how much I could personally benefit myself at this point if I abused moderation powers for self-promotion because of the sheer reach that Reddit has and the extraordinary powers Mods have. But that was never the intention.
toadi 3y ago
Thank god this is happening. It cut down my reddit time and replaced it with actually doing some work.
pimterry 3y ago
Interestingly, each hit of Reddit drama like this does seem to be genuinely driving real migrations elsewhere - the ex-mod's corresponding post about this on KBin (https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-moderator-of-r-Celebrities-after-14-years https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-mod...) now has more votes than this Reddit post, despite it being #1 in the obviously topical ModCoord subreddit, and on the front page of HN. Not a perfect comparison in any sense obviously, and this doesn't refute any of the limitations & issues with Lemmy/KBin, but there is real traffic starting to move over there regardless.
- willvarfar 3y ago
  Does enough users attention migrate to alternatives so those alternatives can build the minimum critical mass to survive longer term?
- sangnoir 3y ago
  Reddit admin:mod ratio is 1:N, the fediverse changes that to M:N. Between that and the funding model (or lack of one), I'm curious to discover the many failure modes that will occur in the coming months. I suspect instance owners (who pay the bills from personal funds) will be even less willing to "negotiate" than the current Reddit leadership. I'm a big fan of decentralization, but the naivete of Fedi-zealots and the lack of tooling/standards is shocking to me. The Fediverse needs machine-readable equivalent of Subreddit rules, and which instances are (de)federated. The clients need to surface this info in an easy-to-use UI, and will massively help with automation, there current levels of human-moderation cannot scale; though there are plenty of gatekeepers who don't want to scale.
Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
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sharikous 3y ago
This may be the place to talk about alternatives to reddit since discourse about that is banned there. So far I've heard only about Lemmy. Are there others sites redditors reading this could be redirected to?
- seydor 3y ago
  The alternatives to subreddits are other subreddits
- ploum 3y ago
  Let’s share the Lemmy Explorer page, to explore Lemmy communities: https://lemmyverse.net/communities https://lemmyverse.net/communities
  - whywhywhywhy 3y ago
    This site is very glitchy in Safari, instance images flicker, scroll too fast you get a blank screen. Might be an issue if they're hoping to get some of the less technical "phoneposter" Redditors on board with their cause.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  apparently Lemmy and Kbin are the two big names popping up. here's the same topic posted on Kbin for reference: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-moderator-of-r-Celebrities-after-14-years#comments https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-mod...
- neurostimulant 3y ago
  Lemmy, kbin and mastodon instances can interact with each other via activitypub. People can migrate to literally any instance they want, then subscribe to any community they want regardless their origin instance. My mind was blown the first time I watch this this interoperability happen. If twitter, reddit and hackernews support activitypub, it would goes like this: if someone post a tweet on twitter that mention a subreddit in the tweet, then that tweet is automatically visible in the mentioned subreddit as a post. The people on that subreddit can comment on the post, and it'll show up in the original author's tweet as reply to the tweet. Then in the middle of it, hackernews user somehow join the discussion because someone on the hackernews subscribe to the subreddit.
LatteLazy 3y ago
There are a bunch of natural human behaviours that because of the way society operates one has to suppress. You cannot hit people just because you are angry. You will have to move to pursue a better life and that means losing friends (even if you don't they will). One newer one is that if you spend time building someone else's product, that doesn't change the fact it is NOT yours. They can and will take it away the minute it suits them. So either don't do it or do it and know you will never be compensated, appreciated etc.
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago
Isn't it a good idea generally to remove someone in power position after certain amount of time, regardless of how good or bad they are? There is a reason Nature made everyone mortal.
hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
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- kelipso 3y ago
  Haha no shit, but it's mean to say it I guess.
seydor 3y ago
Interesting pathetic response from the moderator immediately bringing up child porn as an excuse. I am beginning to think reddit moderation is some sort of destructive addiction More reddit entertainment is available in the comments on these news from the subreddit's users https://www.reddit.com/r/celebrities/comments/14e2c48/the_head_moderator_was_kicked_from_this_subreddit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/celebrities/comments/14e2c48/the_he...
kthejoker2 3y ago
Sidebar: Is there even value in 2023 in having a "subreddit" called /r/Celebrities ? (Or funny, pics, sports, all ... ) It feels like there should be a natural "cap" to a sub's "TAM" or a 100% conversion from catgeory to community subreddits, to limit the blast radius of spam, scams, etc and create clearer rules of engagement for the good faith participants. Or maybe /r/Celebrities could just be a no-comment curation of top posts of actual celebrity subreddits, with a paid Redditor at the top. Anyway just weird to me.
altairprime 3y ago
The moderator’s supposed post at Lemmy has more details and replies from them, and indicates that they were expecting this outcome eventually: https://lemmy.world/post/316878 https://lemmy.world/post/316878 > Edit 2: I’ll also add, that I was never going to re-open the sub because I knew Reddit wasn’t going to yield. Thus, I was prepared for the outcome. I did hope to string them along for a bit longer and waste resources, but you can’t win them all.
lusus_naturae 3y ago
Why can't mods be completely replaced by AI or bots? I wonder if a GPT-enabled AI mod would be better at serving mods functions. At the very least, it makes sense for the Reddit suits to try. Community subreddits are better off as cozy internet forums anyways, they don't need Reddit and vice versa.
- deleted 3y ago
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- gandalfgreybeer 3y ago
  I’m a moderator of a fairly good sized sub (3M) and bots help flag things early but sometimes it takes nuance to determine if it’s something that needs action, especially if it’s for a very specific community. There are rules that have been set up through time by mods that facilitate discussion and avoid people karma farming. Lastly, there are also communities (one of them ours) that host AMAs or other community events and it’s us who approach people to see if they want to interact with the community. I’m not saying mods are perfect (I myself am annoyed at ones from other subreddits and sometimes disagree with fellow ones) but mods aren’t there just to ban people and remove posts. What makes HN amazing for me is how people hear moderate discussions and that’s one thing I’m trying to emulate.

219 points by graeme 3y ago

Mod has too much power. Give paying reddit user to have ability to vote out Mod. It is a public commercial space not a US constitutions. If I pay, then I should have power to demote Mod. Yes, this swing to those that can pay. But that is life. If you are dirt poor, living in the middle of deserts far from any voting booth, do you think you can vote even if you have rights to do so? Or, you slender anyone you like on the pretext of #1 do you think you get away scot free if you are dirt poor? Or how about #2? You can own guns, bullets and even trained like John Wick if you are dirt poor? Then how come being a Mod even if you are dirt poor get to have so much power over a squated reddit namespace you dont own or even pay anything.

graeme 3y ago

Subreddit was shut down while mod team worked on an anti-CSAM bot to help moderate after reddit announced the shutdown of existing tools. Imagine there’s a bit more to the story: tools only shut down June 30th. But still notable. Shutdown obviously hurting Reddit still if they’re resorting to such measures and taking such risks.

Zetobal 3y ago
there are mod tools that deleted their api keys in protest last week.

bottlepalm 3y ago

What's with the mostly nsfw content? Was that part of the r/celebrities protest?

testmasterflex 3y ago
Yes together with manipulating images to include the face of John Oliver
- zimpenfish 3y ago
  This is making me tremendously sad that the writer's strike[1] is blocking new episodes of Last Week Tonight because good lord, that would be AN EPISODE where he covers this. [1] Which I fully support, mind.
Quarrel 3y ago
It is part of a campaign based on the fact that Reddit doesn't run ads against NSFW content, so high user count subs can mark everything NSFW (whether it is or not) and hurt Reddit in their cashflow. For some of the subreddits this isn't as far fetched as for others; /r/videos is more of a work to rule to protest given they're now taking swearing very seriously. You have to think of the 14 year old kids that use reddit.
- ploum 3y ago
  As 14 yo are very rarely at work, NSFW means that the content is for them, right? Or they understood it mean something larger and, as every 14 yo on earth, they will happily comply and never open content which is marked "please do not open if you are not an adult".
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Don't worry, 14 yo won't even get a chance to be exposed to this content - that's what age verification pages are good for, and Internet users are well-known for only ever submitting their actual date of birth on those pages.

leoedin 3y ago

It's interesting seeing this situation play out across different subreddits. There seems to be 2 kinds of subreddits - the "category" kind (simple, descriptive name) and the "community" kind (have a defined purpose, could exist under a whole range of names) The moderators of all of them see themselves as somehow owning the community, but I think that's less clear to the users. To most users, r/Celebrities is a category of posts about celebrities. They don't really care who moderates it. It's a similar situation for things like region/city specific subreddits. The users don't really care about the culture, they just want someone to delete the spam. When the moderators start shutting it down, or threatening to move the community elsewhere, the users mostly end up thinking "who elected you anyway?" The community subreddits are different - they often have a much more defined culture and purpose. Those are the ones which, if the moderators give up, will die. It seems like Reddit is betting that most subreddits are the category kind - and they're probably right. But the community subreddits are likely to be lost.

veave 3y ago
>The community subreddits are different - they often have a much more defined culture and purpose. Those are the ones which, if the moderators give up, will die. I am in some "community" subreddits and moderators are just there to enforce the rules that they made up and not everybody necessarily agree with. As an example, it's very common to have vague rules that silence some flavour of on-topic conversations... and then they are arbitrarily enforced, depending on whether the mod likes or dislikes where the conversation is going. In my opinion, if mods from small subs were gone, that would be a huge positive. I'm glad that this abusive relationship of mods who think they own the entire community (including the users) and treat it as their fiefdom is coming to an end. Just the fact that they are shutting down entire communities shows the level of entitlement they have over the community they moderate. Doing a lot of unpaid labour doesn't entitle you to anything, but it does indeed show the kind of person that you are.
- oblio 3y ago
  Some of the smaller communities only exist because someone created and promoted them, set ground rules, etc. In the olden days the subreddit would be their personal PHPBB forum. Now they are just sharecroppers for Reddit, and guess what, Reddit isn't a better admin.

drumhead 3y ago

So they just expelled one of the people that helped make Reddit what it is today? No loyalty at all is there.

tinus_hn 3y ago
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- nindalf 3y ago
  They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company. Moderators can’t moderate without the API.
  - yanderekko 3y ago
    >They were expressing their loyalties by saying they want to keep working for free for the company … as long as their tools aren’t deliberately broken by the company Reddit is under no obligation to find these terms acceptable. Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API.
    - lijok 3y ago
      > Moderators absolutely can moderate without the API. Practically, and literally impossible. There's CP and other illegal material being posted in these subs every second. Without API access, you have to have dozens of moderators at all times checking every single incoming post.
      - kristopolous 3y ago
        Not to mention spam. There's lots of bots posting just avalanches of garbage upvoted by click farms. It's like these people are coming in driving cars and Reddit management is offering a sturdy pair of walking shoes to try to keep up with them.

Sentionolo 3y ago

I have no clue what moderates really do and I have not seen any difference yet on reddit.

yootyootr 3y ago
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- Sentionolo 3y ago
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password54321 3y ago
Not much. Plenty of nonsense posts/comments are ignored by moderators but the community just downvotes them mostly out of sight. I would say the community itself does most of the work and always has been the case.
- rospaya 3y ago
  You could not be more wrong. The work is mostly invisible to end users.
  - password54321 3y ago
    Not really. Sort by new and take a look yourself. Nonsense posts get downvoted before a moderator has to do anything. People who sort by top or whatever never see it.
    - machinawhite 3y ago
      Most sort by top so it is in fact mostly invisible
    - rospaya 3y ago
      I moderated a subreddit that went from 50k to 200k subscribers and a lot of automation makes it easier to handle standard spam, but 5-6 mods still spent a few hours every day to make it work. This doesn't show up in any sorting. That's why I left.

deleted 3y ago

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jwmoz 3y ago

Probably a good thing.

mvdtnz 3y ago

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yanderekko 3y ago
Yeah, the dude politely asked for 4-6 weeks of closure time.. hard to believe that he expected Reddit to find this reasonable. Unfortunately, the admins probably lack bandwidth to go back and forth on these things and so they just yeeted the top mod rather than tell him that's unacceptable.
lou1306 3y ago
At the same time, Reddit entirely depends on these people to keep these segments of website safe and decent (not to mention ad-friendly). And these people depended on efficient 3rd party tools to carry out this form of free labor. It is a much more delicate balance of power than what is found on most other social platforms. Some described (aptly in my view) this status quo as more akin to feudalism than to a nation state. Yeah the "land" may belong to you, but being nice to your stewards goes a long way if you want your head to remain attached to your neck.
rospaya 3y ago
And at the same time, reddit has the balls to advertise itself as s great place to build a community for your product or company. How can anyone trust them not to take over your community when they feel like it?
cr3ative 3y ago
> a segment of their website? It's not yours. It never was. That's really not been the ethos advertised to moderators until now; it was more that unless you caused site instability (legal or otherwise) it was yours to run as you please. You may be speaking a literal truth, but the emotive background is relevant here.

poulpy123 3y ago

I don't even understand why they continue to work from free for people that do not even have the beginning of a care for them

throwaway71271 3y ago
wealth fame power? (or they just find joy in being of service to others)
johnnyanmac 3y ago
I don't want to call it a cult, but there's a lot of stuff people will do, even to their objective personal cost, if it lets them benefit from a social perspective (be it real social value or perceived). No one becomes a community manager because it pays well.
Tangurena2 3y ago
The mindset is encapsulated in the phrase "Today you, tomorrow me." https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2020/11/13/today-you-tomorrow-me https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2020/11/13/today-you-tomo... https://youtu.be/3vzkw2zD7gE?t=210 https://youtu.be/3vzkw2zD7gE?t=210
faeriechangling 3y ago
When I actively moderated Reddit I was long term unemployed and considered it community service (aware that Reddit is privately owned) and tried to organize information (faq/sticky/tags/sidebar/etc) and moderate to create something useful and helpful to the general public. Looking back though, it’s odd to me how much I could personally benefit myself at this point if I abused moderation powers for self-promotion because of the sheer reach that Reddit has and the extraordinary powers Mods have. But that was never the intention.

toadi 3y ago

Thank god this is happening. It cut down my reddit time and replaced it with actually doing some work.

pimterry 3y ago

Interestingly, each hit of Reddit drama like this does seem to be genuinely driving real migrations elsewhere - the ex-mod's corresponding post about this on KBin (https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-moderator-of-r-Celebrities-after-14-years https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-mod...) now has more votes than this Reddit post, despite it being #1 in the obviously topical ModCoord subreddit, and on the front page of HN. Not a perfect comparison in any sense obviously, and this doesn't refute any of the limitations & issues with Lemmy/KBin, but there is real traffic starting to move over there regardless.

willvarfar 3y ago
Does enough users attention migrate to alternatives so those alternatives can build the minimum critical mass to survive longer term?
sangnoir 3y ago
Reddit admin:mod ratio is 1:N, the fediverse changes that to M:N. Between that and the funding model (or lack of one), I'm curious to discover the many failure modes that will occur in the coming months. I suspect instance owners (who pay the bills from personal funds) will be even less willing to "negotiate" than the current Reddit leadership. I'm a big fan of decentralization, but the naivete of Fedi-zealots and the lack of tooling/standards is shocking to me. The Fediverse needs machine-readable equivalent of Subreddit rules, and which instances are (de)federated. The clients need to surface this info in an easy-to-use UI, and will massively help with automation, there current levels of human-moderation cannot scale; though there are plenty of gatekeepers who don't want to scale.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago

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sharikous 3y ago

This may be the place to talk about alternatives to reddit since discourse about that is banned there. So far I've heard only about Lemmy. Are there others sites redditors reading this could be redirected to?

seydor 3y ago
The alternatives to subreddits are other subreddits
ploum 3y ago
Let’s share the Lemmy Explorer page, to explore Lemmy communities: https://lemmyverse.net/communities https://lemmyverse.net/communities
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  This site is very glitchy in Safari, instance images flicker, scroll too fast you get a blank screen. Might be an issue if they're hoping to get some of the less technical "phoneposter" Redditors on board with their cause.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
apparently Lemmy and Kbin are the two big names popping up. here's the same topic posted on Kbin for reference: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-moderator-of-r-Celebrities-after-14-years#comments https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-mod...
neurostimulant 3y ago
Lemmy, kbin and mastodon instances can interact with each other via activitypub. People can migrate to literally any instance they want, then subscribe to any community they want regardless their origin instance. My mind was blown the first time I watch this this interoperability happen. If twitter, reddit and hackernews support activitypub, it would goes like this: if someone post a tweet on twitter that mention a subreddit in the tweet, then that tweet is automatically visible in the mentioned subreddit as a post. The people on that subreddit can comment on the post, and it'll show up in the original author's tweet as reply to the tweet. Then in the middle of it, hackernews user somehow join the discussion because someone on the hackernews subscribe to the subreddit.

LatteLazy 3y ago

There are a bunch of natural human behaviours that because of the way society operates one has to suppress. You cannot hit people just because you are angry. You will have to move to pursue a better life and that means losing friends (even if you don't they will). One newer one is that if you spend time building someone else's product, that doesn't change the fact it is NOT yours. They can and will take it away the minute it suits them. So either don't do it or do it and know you will never be compensated, appreciated etc.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 3y ago

Isn't it a good idea generally to remove someone in power position after certain amount of time, regardless of how good or bad they are? There is a reason Nature made everyone mortal.

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago

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kelipso 3y ago
Haha no shit, but it's mean to say it I guess.

seydor 3y ago

Interesting pathetic response from the moderator immediately bringing up child porn as an excuse. I am beginning to think reddit moderation is some sort of destructive addiction More reddit entertainment is available in the comments on these news from the subreddit's users https://www.reddit.com/r/celebrities/comments/14e2c48/the_head_moderator_was_kicked_from_this_subreddit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/celebrities/comments/14e2c48/the_he...

kthejoker2 3y ago

Sidebar: Is there even value in 2023 in having a "subreddit" called /r/Celebrities ? (Or funny, pics, sports, all ... ) It feels like there should be a natural "cap" to a sub's "TAM" or a 100% conversion from catgeory to community subreddits, to limit the blast radius of spam, scams, etc and create clearer rules of engagement for the good faith participants. Or maybe /r/Celebrities could just be a no-comment curation of top posts of actual celebrity subreddits, with a paid Redditor at the top. Anyway just weird to me.

altairprime 3y ago

The moderator’s supposed post at Lemmy has more details and replies from them, and indicates that they were expecting this outcome eventually: https://lemmy.world/post/316878 https://lemmy.world/post/316878 > Edit 2: I’ll also add, that I was never going to re-open the sub because I knew Reddit wasn’t going to yield. Thus, I was prepared for the outcome. I did hope to string them along for a bit longer and waste resources, but you can’t win them all.

lusus_naturae 3y ago

Why can't mods be completely replaced by AI or bots? I wonder if a GPT-enabled AI mod would be better at serving mods functions. At the very least, it makes sense for the Reddit suits to try. Community subreddits are better off as cozy internet forums anyways, they don't need Reddit and vice versa.

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gandalfgreybeer 3y ago
I’m a moderator of a fairly good sized sub (3M) and bots help flag things early but sometimes it takes nuance to determine if it’s something that needs action, especially if it’s for a very specific community. There are rules that have been set up through time by mods that facilitate discussion and avoid people karma farming. Lastly, there are also communities (one of them ours) that host AMAs or other community events and it’s us who approach people to see if they want to interact with the community. I’m not saying mods are perfect (I myself am annoyed at ones from other subreddits and sometimes disagree with fellow ones) but mods aren’t there just to ban people and remove posts. What makes HN amazing for me is how people hear moderate discussions and that’s one thing I’m trying to emulate.