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Stack Overflow Is Down
- JaggerJo 3y agoconfirmed.
- resolutebat 3y agoNot fully down for me, just very slow?
- Andugal 3y agoA status page that is down at the same time as the real website is not a good status page...
- nayuki 3y agoYeah. There was someone a few years ago who said something like, "If your website doesn't have a status page, it does have one on Twitter". Wish I could find the quote source.
- rjmunro 3y agoThey have a twitter account for status updates, and that's not been updated since September: https://twitter.com/stackstatus https://twitter.com/stackstatus
- jagged-chisel 3y agoI believe the implication is that the rest of the world will complain about your service's status on Twitter.
- nayuki 3y agoSadly, it's now a matter of time before Twitter itself goes down. (Due to running out of money, staff getting fired, mismanagement, etc.)
- curtisblaine 3y agoIt's been a matter of time for a long time.
- digitallyfree 3y agoLikely it's hosted on the same infrastructure. The general recommendation is to host the status page on different provider so it's more likely to stay up.
- sigwinch28 3y agoThe pinned tweet for @StackStatus starts "With our recent status page improvements". https://twitter.com/StackStatus/status/1575844926884962305?s=20 https://twitter.com/StackStatus/status/1575844926884962305?s... The old status page https://stackstatus.tumblr.com https://stackstatus.tumblr.com is up, but not updated.
- brookst 3y agoThe medium is the message.
- belter 3y agoMaybe the Status page is down and the site is up? :-)
- PaulHoule 3y agoI was trying to use SO for the first time in months (got a really freaky problem with jestjs) and it was down.
- 255 3y agoIt successfully tells me that the website is down
- underlines 3y agoIt makes perfect sense: Create a static status page on yourserver.com/status.html and write: If you can't read this, it means the status of yourserver.com is: DOWN
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- TeMPOraL 3y agoDNS should have a mechanism for designating failover IPs, so you could e.g. host a static HTML saying "it's down" on some CDN as far as possible topologically from the rest of your network, so it displays when your status page is down too. However, status pages are first and foremost marketing tools, so I wouldn't expect anyone setting such mechanism up.
- marcosdumay 3y agoYou know, there's a proposal of treating HTTP names the same way SMTP works. That proposal includes adding low-priority servers that should be used only when the high priority fails. All the mainstream browsers have already said they won't ever implement it.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoI suppose that gets filed next to "browsers should really let us use SRV records to point at websites":\
- marcosdumay 3y agoSRV records are the thing I was talking about.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoOh, neat! Thanks for pointing that out; I somehow got this far in life without realizing that SRV records have priority and weight fields (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record has a decent summary) - I only knew that they let you specify a port, which would already be a huge advantage. Darn, now I'm even more annoyed that browsers don't handle them:(
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- apocalyptic0n3 3y agoSo is the status page from the looks of it.
- pil0u 3y agoWith all that's going on around LLMs and the fact that SO has been a major source of data, when I see SO down now, I wonder if they haven't just pulled the plug. I know it's a dumb thought, I'm curious if other people feel the same way.
- trollied 3y agoJust dump something you purchased for $1.8 billion?
- carlitossway 3y agoI'd do it, if I expected to charge $18 billion for information that the thing I just purchased used to offer for free.
- sp332 3y agoTo have/sell exclusive access to AI companies.
- nerdbert 3y agoThere's limited value if the site isn't continuing to amass new human-generated content. An "AI" that can only answer questions about technologies used until June 2023 will probably not change the world in the long term.
- saintradon 3y agoFirst reddit and now Stack Overflow? Rough couple of days for anyone googling things.
- john-radio 3y agoI had a bash question for ChatGPT earlier and I opened with "Okay, it's just you and me now..."
- mberlove 3y agoI've been plugging search engine result links for reddit and stackoverflow into archive.org to "bypass" - works more or less.
- kurthr 3y agoFor the moment: https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/ https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/
- 8organicbits 3y agoOne unexpected benefit of LLM (to me) is that it memorized large parts of the internet, so it has some backup like properties. SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized it already.
- saintradon 3y agoYeah definitely. My default thought process was always, ok I'll just get a cached version, but now it's like - lemme see what GPT-4 thinks about this problem first.
- tehbeard 3y agoIt may have memorized it, but recollection with accuracy is not it's strong suit.
- twelve40 3y ago> SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized memorized SO, also known as "stole". when i (and everyone else) write for SO, i give them permission to use what i write, but never did I sign up for the GPT theft of that data.
- angelmm 3y agoI'm curious how the status page is down too. Those pages are usually in a totally separated infrastructure.
- jaywalk 3y agoLooks like they use FireHydrant (https://firehydrant.com/ https://firehydrant.com/) for their status page. But if FireHydrant is having issues, they'd need Stack Overflow. It's a terrible coincidence.
- aloisdg 3y agohug of death?
- wombatpm 3y agoThey SHOULD be on separated infrastructure. Sometimes your separated infrastructure is not as separate as you think. True story. Northwest Airlines (prior to merger with Delta) was grounded for a couple of days in the 90's due to a backhoe cutting through their data and communication lines about 300 yards from their control center. Both vendors were using the same utility right of way. So separate systems, separate vendors, separate cables buried in the ground next to each other. One backhoe operator took them both out.
- qsantos 3y agoNo Reddit, no Stack Overflow. Thankfully, documentation and manuals are still on various platforms and not a single website.
- pixl97 3y agoCrap, ChatGPT is down too, guess I'm not getting anything done today.
- LordShredda 3y agoyou were not getting anything done anyways with that
- faeyanpiraat 3y agoYou are using it wrong
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoOr they're just doing something that's actually original and doesn't appear in the training data a million times already.
- rdlw 3y agoWhy are you doing something that hasn't been done a million times before? Suspicious. You're using it wrong.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y agoI'm probably doing my whole profession wrong. I should just shit out cookie cutter web apps and try to sucker VCs into funding them, just to make off with the dough. I could do it all from my couch now. ChatGPT webapp, ChatGPT some slides and stuff and just hire an actor to go do the pitch meeting in California for me.
- obituary_latte 3y agoIt's kind of surprising how relevant so many of my queries are to SO answers these days. This was kind of eye-opening. I wonder if I should start trying Bard or ChatGPT first?
- KingOfCoders 3y agoYes.
- lukevp 3y agoI agree. ChatGPT is a really good first place to start with a technical question, so long as the tech is mature enough. I’ve even given the LLM updated docs for a library that had changed since it had run its learning, and it was able to update the example to work with the new api based on the docs.
- mwint 3y agoCan you rephrase this? I'm having a hard time parsing it. Maybe I just need more coffee :)
- whimsicalism 3y agoThey're trying to say SO answers are helpful to them, but in a very odd way.
- obituary_latte 3y agoI was surprised to see how many of my searches were landing on SO this morning. It stood out because the site was not responding. Apparently, it was a stupid thing to say...
- assimpleaspossi 3y agoNo
- angelmm 3y agoAfter some time, I got a "We are currently offline for maintenance" message.
- xkcd1963 3y agoOh no, half of hackernews population will be jobless!
- gjsman-1000 3y agoMandatory reminder that you can download StackOverflow for offline use (at least, you can once it's back online): https://stackoverflow.blog/2022/10/20/introducing-the-overflow-offline-project/ https://stackoverflow.blog/2022/10/20/introducing-the-overfl... https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow.com_en_all_nopic_2022-07.zim https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow.... https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow.com_en_all_2023-05.zim https://download.kiwix.org/zim/stack_exchange/stackoverflow.... You would definitely be an elite at your job for situations like this...
- nerdchum 3y agoAwesome! Thanks!!!!
- BrentOzar 3y ago> you can download StackOverflow for offline use Probably not for long. They've already discontinued the public data dump: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389922/june-2023-data-dump-is-missing/390023#390023 https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389922/june-2023-da...
- nailer 3y agoThey should set up an old-style MSDN service where CD-ROMs arrive in your mailbox every month.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago:( That's unfortunate. At least you can still get May's dump which has plenty of material.
- rtavares 3y agoThey did not discountinue it. They are uploading June data dump and it's expected that the automatic data dumps are re-enabled by end of day Friday: https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/390200 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/390200
- techterrier 3y agoHopefully it's enjoying a comfortable retirement now that GPT is here.
- myko 3y agoGPT probably generates a lot of its programming related answers based on StackOverflow. I wonder what the quality of GPT would be for future developers if SO did retire!
- nailer 3y agoGoddamnit, I found an answer and then edited it with a link to the upstream docs yesterday, and wanted to find that link again. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72440961/how-to-connect-my-postgresql-database-to-sveltekit-and-run-queries https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72440961/how-to-connect-...
- xingped 3y agoI always got a chuckle out of the joke that StackOverflow devs must be the best devs because when StackOverflow goes down, they don't have StackOverflow to look at for answers, haha.
- hyperliner 3y agoYou just made me spray my laptop with coffee. Such a good one!
- charcircuit 3y agoThere are mirrors and offline archives of the site.
- telotortium 3y agoThat was also a joke at Google
- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoGoogle might make your resume look better, but jokes don't work like that.
- telotortium 3y agoThe joke is not that Google developers are so good. Rather, the code base and infrastructure at Google are not the industry standard, so googling to solve your issues wouldn't help you very much. However, Google does have its own internal search engine, Moma, that fulfills a similar role, and code search is also heavily relied upon as well. Google developers fear the day when both of these could go down.
- digitalsushi 3y agoI believe a coffee maker is humankind's finest engineering, then: A machine that can be used by a person who hasn't had coffee.
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- dhruvarora013 3y agoOutlink to https://downdetector.com/status/stackoverflow/ https://downdetector.com/status/stackoverflow/ since their native status checker (stackstatus.net) is also down!
- cubefox 3y agoWhen Twitter was new, it was down every few weeks. It wasn't a big deal though. Turns out you can be down for 87 hours per year and still have >99% uptime.
- pmontra 3y agoBy the way Start time: June 15, 2023 | 9:00pm End time: June 15, 2023 | 10:00pm We are performing a software upgrade on network equipment that will cause some traffic to be dropped for about 1 minute, during the device restart. I wonder which time zone. No idea where they are in the USA.
- hanniabu 3y ago> Planned maintenance scheduled for Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 21:00 UTC https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/maintenance+or+maintenance?tab=Newest https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/maintenance+...
- dtjc 3y agoIt tells me: Start time: June 15, 2023 | 11:00pm End time: June 16, 2023 | 12:00am So I guess it's in our time zone? I'm in GMT+2.
- napsterbr 3y agoYep. I mean, it's nice that we don't have to do the timezone math, but they still should include the timezone to avoid confusion.
- hnarn 3y agoAutomatic time zone translation is moronic if you don’t indicate that automatic translation has happened before displaying it to the user. Also, assuming that the time zone set on the client machine is the same that the reader expects is usually true, but not always. There’s a reason most technical or “professional” communication of time zones happens in UTC, and the conversion is left up to the reader.
- gregmac 3y agoThis is one of those UI conventions that would be good, but is actually unusable and ruined because there's too much other bad UIs that don't even think about time zones.
- deanebarker 3y agoIt went to read-only status before going down, so I assume it's a planned maintenance event.
- alach11 3y agoThis outage seems to only affect users who are logged in. Try a private browser window if you need access.
- francisofascii 3y agoNah. Doesn't seem to matter.
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- lordnacho 3y ago"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoWhat a waste of empty space, I have to scroll to find the information..
- ineedasername 3y agoAs of now, 3:46 PM GMT, stack overflow is up and not just read-only, I am able to comment.
- MuffinFlavored 3y agoHow many people's first reactions were "it might as well stay down because I just go to GPT-4 now instead"? /s I wonder how much their traffic is down overall.
- fragkakis 3y agothank god ChatGPT has read all of SO
- comprev 3y agoOne joking theory as to why various CDNs were having issues on Monday is because their engineers usually turn to Reddit for answers...