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Reddit permanently bans account of user advocating Lemmy migration

• nunez 3y ago
  This got me to finally check out Lemmy. Wow; this looks really good. I hope there is an Apollo-like client that will let me aggregate Lemmy instances that I subscribe to.
• maltfield 3y ago
  Because Lemmy is federated, it may be difficult for reddit users migrating to lemmy to find their subreddits. Here's a guide to help reddit users find popular lemmy communities and subscribe to them across different instances * https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-find-subreddits-communities/ https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-...
• wincy 3y ago
  Reddit is scummy, but isn’t Lemmy some weird crypto scam thing?
  • RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
    More of a federated/ mastadon version of reddit. So it depends on which instances you are looking at.
  • dindresto 3y ago
    Lemmy uses the W3C ActivityPub standard for federation. No blockchain involved.
  • zeekaran 3y ago
    No, it's merely a federated reddit alternative which is why we're discussing it here.
  • pierat 3y ago
    Nope, not at all. Lemmy is a Fediverse equivalent of Reddit. Mastodon is a Fediverse equivalent to Twitter and Facebook. There's no correlation to Lemmy and any sort of shitcoin, OTHER THAN lemmy server operators asking for donations. You can learn more here, including how to join a Lemmy server, or to make your own. https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/
  • wkat4242 3y ago
    I didn't find anything about that on Google or Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(software) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(software)
  • masklinn 3y ago
    AFAIK no, it's a fediverse thing. They do have crypto donation links (alongside a bunch of others), but the main devs seem to have more communistic tendencies (what with the big Che github avatars).
  • rsynnott 3y ago
    One of the more irritating things the crypto people did was to convince the general public that federated services were something they'd come up with, or even that they were only possible through the good offices of The Almighty Blockchain. In practice, federated services that people actually use are generally not crypto-y.
  • GartzenDeHaes 3y ago
    Lemmy is a communist tankie. Not sure what happened to it, but there used to be a T72 tank in their logo.
    • sudosysgen 3y ago
      That's lemmygrad
• smilespray 3y ago
  Well, now I know about Lemmy. Streisand effect.
  • RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
    Lemmys ok. It needs more users to be useful. I don't think the critical threshold is very high.
    • jsnell 3y ago
      It clearly can't handle more users, so that's a bit of a problem.
      • hkt 3y ago
        It is a federated piece of software with an instance whose admins clearly didn't realise they were going to get the HN hug of death and an exodus of reddit users today. The application's architecture, as I understand it, is largely horizontally scalable but I'd guess its operations team for the main instance either doesn't have a bottomless pit of money, or hasn't had to deal with user floods of this scale before. In other words: give them a break.
      • RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
        Its federated. If you have a problem with that, host an instance.
      • sudosysgen 3y ago
        The software is fine, it can handle a few thousand active simultaneous connections on a fairly standard machine, and is indefinitely horizontally scalable (limited of course by whatever DB you use). I'm pretty sure the admins just haven't specced it for more than the low loads they normally get.
        • shagie 3y ago
          ... Imagine if Apollo was able to just flip a switch and point it at Lemmy with 2.3k r/s. Who's gonna pay that server bill?
• makapuf 3y ago
  Seems an illustration of The jell-o effect. The more you smash it, the more it splashes everywhere.
  • DirectorKrennic 3y ago
    Redditors: The more you tighten your grip on third party apps, the more users will slip through your fingers. Reddit: Not after we demonstrate the power of this ban hammer. In a way, you have determined the choice of the alternative platform that'll be censored first.
  • yonaguska 3y ago
    Yep, now I'll be checking out Lemmy, when I previously had no idea it existed, I rarely use reddit anymore as it is.
• RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
  This has been fun to watch. Reddits been working to deteriorate its quality for a long time. The major disappointment is that they aren't a publicly traded company so there is no way to make money on their downfall.
  • super256 3y ago
    I thought the whole idea of locking down the API, heavily promoting reddit awards + avatars and pushing of the official app is done to have growth and a better valuation when they go public?
    • RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
      You can have/ believe anything you like. If you think those things increase their value, and want them to go public, I want them to go public too. I just don't agree/ have the same thesis about their value and where it is derived that you do.
      • super256 3y ago
        > If you think those things increase their value I do! But just the paper value. The maximum value for humanity would be if they would've just kept going like a few years ago, I guess? But I can understand if investors want ROI.
  • Eji1700 3y ago
    I mean, everyone had similar views about twitter and it's still kicking around just fine.
    • _zn02 3y ago
      For some value of "just fine" https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-twitter-documents-ad-revenue-down-elon-musk-denials-report-2023-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-twitter-documents-ad-... Not that it's worth much but I recently deleted my Twitter account (and then a few weeks later, also, my Reddit account)
• wkat4242 3y ago
  It would be really nice if an Exodus could be started before their IPO. That would really kick them in the nuts. Maybe they'd even sell it to a party that cares about the users.
• andersa 3y ago
  Well, considering I am getting this on clicking the link: 404: FetchError: invalid json response body at http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site http://lemmy:8536/api/v3/site? reason: Unexpected token 'T', "Timeout oc"... is not valid JSON This site is clearly not prepared to handle any kind of migration from reddit.
  • miyuru 3y ago
    you can read it using another instances, beauty of fediverse. https://lemmy.ca/post/580103 https://lemmy.ca/post/580103 https://feddit.dk/post/19972 https://feddit.dk/post/19972
    • andersa 3y ago
      Interesting, thanks for the links. Does seem mysterious to me though that the id of the post is different on each of them.
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• maerF0x0 3y ago
  IMO the FTC and courts (supreme?) should be stepping in here, and more generally, stating that communications platforms must not censor freedom of speech, nor censor in an anticompettive way. If I want to talk about Hondas on Twitter, Elon should be barred from censoring that. If I want to talk about Bitchute on Youtube, Alphabet must allow that. If I want to use my macbook pro to write windows software, Apple must not block it. etc.
  • feyes 3y ago
    That's not how freedom of speech works at all. These are not publicly funded platforms. They are businesses and as such need to censor speech in order to maintain relationships with businesses. Twitter is a great example. They start to loosen up on the hate speech and advertisers flee while simultaneously clamping down on anti government speech. I do not support free speech absolutism for private businesses because of this. It just doesn't make good business sense.
    • maerF0x0 3y ago
      Multiple people saying the same thing so I guess I'll reply to yours. However these are communications platforms. So is it clear that if AT&T wanted it could say I cannot talk about my silly hats only club, they could intervene to block my communications? Or if my landlord felt I shouldn't have a specific sign (not signs in general), or even to just say words they dont agree with, they could bar that from their property? Or if I wanted to wear a democrat colored pair of shorts to a (business owned) pool they could bar that dress code? These are all business contexts in which I'm using the business owners property as a customer/consumer and hypothetically being barred from an action. I dont see how it's so different for communications platforms like Reddit/FB/YT Perhaps America is far less free than I realized.
      • anoonmoose 3y ago
        > AT&T Kind of fuzzy. Iirc, land lines no, cell phones yes, Internet yes. > landlord Probably extremely specific to state/county/town > democrat shorts Political affiliation is only a protected class in an extremely small number of areas, so most likely, yes
• dzader 3y ago
  Reddit is also basically hard down right now and has been for 30+ minutes and not a peep from their status page. Trying to impress investors by lying about their shitty site.
  • pmarreck 3y ago
    works just fine over here
• eimrine 3y ago
  Does Lemmy allows the same behaviour of moderators if they want to be such? I am searching a Reddit alternative with no ability to delete anything. The only acceptible for me censoureship is having a special forum branch with spam, trolls, nsfw and any other unwanting behaviour with no rights to write anywhere else for those who get banhammered.
  • re-actor 3y ago
    Anything without the ability to delete user content becomes instantly unusable due to spam, pornbots and (if the site get big enough) CSAM.
    • eimrine 3y ago
      Then CSAM point becomes kind of a religion for social networks. Either a social network is able to resist government's urge of terrorism prevention and child protection (I am referencing to some famous meme on censourship) or its moderator's ego is going to have an endless growing exposed in banning some users with some fancy excuses. Now try to convince me that Lemme is not a spam from Reddit's PoV.
      • jrflowers 3y ago
        How do you stop your website from being filled with CSAM? “Religion” aside, what do you actually do with your mouse and keyboard when you see CSAM pop up on a website that you pay for?
  • hkt 3y ago
    >I am searching a Reddit alternative with no ability to delete anything. Good luck with that: between libel and illegal pornography whoever operated such a service would very quickly be inundated with legal woes. The fact is community standards exist for a reason: they don't need to be absolutely permissive, only permissive enough
  • willcipriano 3y ago
    If you don't want to post porn, Gab allows all legal speech otherwise. > We strive to ensure that the First Amendment remains the Website’s standard for content moderation. We will make best efforts to ensure that all content moderation decisions and enforcement of these terms of service does not punish users for exercising their God-given right to speak freely. > As a general rule, written expression that is protected political, religious, symbolic, or commercial speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution will be allowed on the Website. User Contributions absolutely must in their entirety comply with all applicable federal, state, and local regulations in the United States. https://gab.com/about/tos https://gab.com/about/tos
• yosito 3y ago
  While Reddit is pulling a Digg, Lemmy is pulling a Reddit.
  • duped 3y ago
    Crashing under load? \s
    • AviationAtom 3y ago
      Beauty of the Fediverse? https://beehaw.org/post/439761 https://beehaw.org/post/439761
  • bobsmooth 3y ago
    Hosting jailbait?
  • AviationAtom 3y ago
    A copy of this particular post: https://beehaw.org/post/439761 https://beehaw.org/post/439761 Other interesting posts about Lemmy and scaling: https://beehaw.org/post/434849 https://beehaw.org/post/434849 https://beehaw.org/post/438094 https://beehaw.org/post/438094
• moepstar 3y ago
  As if Reddit needs any more bad publicity recently... or don't they care and welcome any publicity?
• anoonmoose 3y ago
  There's also some weird drama going on over a user complaining about Lyft's response to an issue, and then Lyft responding to the user's post with their real name (which was not attached to the reddit account). If Reddit removed the comment I haven't seen that yet, so the two stories feel vaguely similar in a way. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/142094g/i_was_doxxed_on_reddit_by_the_official_reddit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/142094g/i_was_...
  • dingusdew 3y ago
    The part that gets me about this one is that doxxing is a bannable offense on reddit, but they're clearly not banning the lyft corporate account that did the doxxing. On my end, they have removed the offending comment (finally) but it's pretty clear that they have different rules for corporations and people, since the account is not banned.
  • dontupvoteme 3y ago
    Thanks for reminding me why reddit is garbage, what a shitshow that link is
  • johnnyanmac 3y ago
    tangential, but that graveyard sort of reminds me why I left reddit. I understand that there are a lot of off topic comments, but surely there must be some better way to encourage proper moderation than having a mod delete 80% of the comments, remove the post (which in and of itself wasn't rulebreaking AFAIK), then lock the post. Then after all that have the mod speak from an ivory tower about how "Y'all can't behave". It just all feels a bit power-trippy in my eyes.
    • anoonmoose 3y ago
      I can't particularly agree in this case. I don't think /r/legaladvice is better off having a thousand incorrect, off-topic responses to a question. It was locked when I saw it first and I didn't think that was weird- they usually do that once approximately correct advice has come in but people are still replying. The post being removed surprised me but then again, I don't know that there's really an actionable legal question here, so it was mostly just a lightning rod. And complaining about how people can't behave feels reasonable to me when people aren't following the rules. I got plenty of issues with reddit but I don't actualy agree with any of your complaints here.
• BowBun 3y ago
  Funny to see people quick to make fun of a project for not being able to instantly handle a spike in requests, which most of their own apps wouldn't either! Reddit has been around nearly 20 years to harden their infrastructure. Relax and give them a minute. Their page loads for me now that I've typed this out, anyway.
  • paxys 3y ago
    Who is making fun of it?
  • riceart 3y ago
    Let’s be real here this system is flawed at its core though. This can’t even handle the load of some moderately popular PHP forums with simple deployment or even this site nothing took decades to harden. And this is due to gross flaws in architecture, IMNSHO. Comparing it to Reddit is silly. And yes I’m sure there are more than a few here that can honestly say their servers could handle this load - it isn’t much.
    • sudosysgen 3y ago
      Care to point out the core flaws? As far as I'm concerned there aren't any core issues. There are a lot of queries to a single DB which is one the same server, but there's nothing preventing you from running the DB on another server and sharding it if need be. I wouldn't call that a core architectural issue because the way you set up your DB is not core to the architecture.
      • riceart 3y ago
        It’s a federated system without any of the affordances that would make it usable (or particularly interesting to me). Literally load balancing by going to a long list of alternate instances. The sites own documentation just says, find one that works, and if that shits the bed find another. This is a UX agreeable to a very tiny and idiosyncratic group (as evidenced by Mastodon once the Elon is evil hype died. Yes of course in theory you can beef up any instance, and shard, and add a caching and queueing layer while you’re at it. And tada you’ve just redid Reddit.
• pronoiac 3y ago
  Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20230606170826/https://lemmy.ml/post/1152281 https://web.archive.org/web/20230606170826/https://lemmy.ml/...
• goplayoutside 3y ago
  I moderate a few modestly sized subreddits for a niche hobby -- regular stuff, nothing that could be regarded as morally questionable or a ToS issue -- to the tune of 10k-15k active users on a busy day. My account was suspended for "suspicious activity" the other day[1], and some of my less active subreddits were also banned. While extenuating circumstances (described in the post linked below) mean it's plausible this was an overzealous spambot, the timing is curious, as I had just added my subs to the protest, and was in the process of communicating with the mods of some fairly large subreddits about joining the protest. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36192312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36192312
  • A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
    It seems petty. That said this decentralization effort ( if users moving to other products can be called that ) may be good overall. I was getting weary of Reddit, Discord and few other entities owning nearly the entire market.
  • NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
    The real question here is this: What have reddit administrators done in the last 10 years that makes you the person reading this comment believe that they deserve the benefit of doubt? On the off chance it was an overzealous anti-spam bot, but you accused them of dirty dealings anyway, is this a form of injustice so awful that you would feel remorse the rest of our life for the false allegations? I know what my answer is.
• rjh29 3y ago
  I hope Lemmy does well, but I don't think it's going to replace Reddit (and that's likely fine in the eyes of the Lemmy team) Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit. Nobody wants to choose a server. We just want reddit without the bullshit. It's the same issue with Mastodon. Mastodon is down over 1 million users since last December, and I bet that's related to how difficult it is to sign up and to find other users on the platform. https://searchengineland.com/mastodon-shows-declined-growth-despite-concerns-with-twitter-392787 https://searchengineland.com/mastodon-shows-declined-growth-... Don't take my word for it either: https://lemmy.ml/post/1149624 https://lemmy.ml/post/1149624
  • derbOac 3y ago
    I don't know. I'm skeptical about lemmy taking off but for a different reason — there's a sort of chicken and egg problem with content. It's tough to attract users without attractive users. Bluesky has tried to address that with selective invites and whether or not it happens organically with lemmy who knows. Using lemmy though, it seems a lot more intuitive to me than mastodon. I can find topic communities on other servers easily, and the community-server match issue seems like a better fit than mastodon in some ways. Mastodon never has quite clicked with me, but lemmy does, maybe even more so than reddit itself. The limits to me using lemmy right now are content not ux. Mostly I use reddit for relatively obscure topics. But already I'm seeing cat photos of the sort I'd see on the main page of reddit so maybe it's a time thing.
  • freediverx 3y ago
    > Nobody wants a federated, slow, difficult to use version of reddit Nobody wants a first party Reddit app with a terrible user interface, algorithmic timelines, and obnoxious advertising.
  • maltfield 3y ago
    Because Lemmy is federated, it may be difficult for reddit users migrating to lemmy to find their subreddits. Here's a guide to help reddit users find popular lemmy communities and subscribe to them across different instances * https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-find-subreddits-communities/ https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-...
• DueDilligence 3y ago
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• expertentipp 3y ago
  Whoaaaa, myself got permanent suspension on multiple reddit accounts few hours ago. Not related to this topic though. What's happening in reddit?!
  • bombcar 3y ago
    Three obvious bot accounts followed an account I don't even use anymore all at once, something fucky is happening.
• norir 3y ago
  The funny thing is that the reaction of these platforms when someone advocates for communications elsewhere is to ban those people rather than try to improve their system so that people don't want to leave (reddit is hardly the only platform to act this way). Personally, I'd rather try to build something so excellent that if someone proposes an alternative, most people wouldn't want to leave because I am meeting their needs so well. If the platform is so sclerotic that it can't be meaningfully improved and people are clamoring to leave, there is little they can do prevent an inevitable mass exodus anyway.
• bastardoperator 3y ago
  Seems like reddit really wants to kill their IPO. People are getting banned left and right and I have a ton of bots flooding my friend requests. A part of me thinks it's all scripted to boost user numbers and engagement.
• kats 3y ago
  They always try to say that it's the big bad guy vs the good little guy, but a lot of the time it's not true. One comment said the user posted a lot of spam that they didn't mention in their post.
  • pgoggijr 3y ago
    The author addresses that comment in an edit - seems like the commenter stretched the truth a bit. Manually cross-posting shouldn't be a suspendable/bannable offense
    • shagie 3y ago
      How many posts before it does? From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36216654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36216654 there is this image: https://i.imgur.com/scny5VP.png https://i.imgur.com/scny5VP.png That's more than the dozen (now nine) that show up in https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/duplicates/13xy42u/now_that_reddit_has_become_greedy_with_its_api/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/duplicates/13xy42u/now_th...
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• nosebob 3y ago
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  • etskinner 3y ago
    People might want to avoid having the same thing happen with a reddit clone 10-20 years in the future. Federation allows communities to decide their own fate instead of having decisions handed out from on high
    • lost_tourist 3y ago
      Sure, but only nerds will use them (not necessarily a bad thing) and will never go mainstream because of the difficulty to set up and search. Monolithic site like Reddit don't have that issue at all, you log in and away you go. Until someone makes federation that easy, I only see a Reddit replacement being of similar design and composition to Reddit.
      • sudosysgen 3y ago
        Email is federated and everyone manages to use it just fine. It's possible the UX can be improved, in which case I'd invite you to contribute.
  • opportune 3y ago
    I know in the context of Lemmy this is an unfair criticism, but for the 99.99% of Reddit users not technical enough, or technical enough but not motivated enough, to run this software on their own any replacement needs to be an actual running site and not OSS that helps you set up a site.
  • johnnyanmac 3y ago
    Gotta ask the users who decided on it. It could be as simple as "it popped up first on google". FWIW, I heard of Lemmy loosely before this (But I have spent a lot of time looking at alternatives to reddit). I heard of Throat as well be never browsed it. Never heard of rDrama.
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• b8 3y ago
  Aaron Swartz would be disappointed in Reddit's actions such as this.
  • RosanaAnaDana 3y ago
    We can carry on his spirit through our work. Lemmy is a great example of that spirit.
    • causi 3y ago
      Do you know a good writeup about him? Everyone in the know feels very differently about him than I do so clearly my opinion is wrong, but I haven't been able to find out why and change my mind.
• downWidOutaFite 3y ago
  When Elon did this it did seem to work and it crushed the migration to Mastodon. Elon seems to be inspiring other tech CEOs which is worrying as a SWE since Elon is explicit about thinking that SWEs are pampered and need to be knocked down a few pegs.
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  • celdon25 3y ago
    > Elon seems to be inspiring other tech CEOs which is worrying as a SWE since Elon is explicit about thinking that SWEs are pampered and need to be knocked down a few pegs. Can confirm first-hand that this is not merely a "seems to be".
• mrguyorama 3y ago
  Let me guess; This is one of the accounts that was just posting the same "Migrate to lemmy!" message in every single thread talking about the protest next week. Spam is spam guys.
  • SmashPingu 3y ago
    Everything about this seems incredibly suspect. Reddit wouldn't ever ban anyone for suggesting an alternative (there's a whole subreddit dedicated to that). This just seems to be a shill capitalizing on the news, plain and simple.
    • bobsmooth 3y ago
      >Reddit wouldn't ever ban anyone for suggesting an alternative They absolutely do. Try linking to rdrama.net, you'll get shadowbanned.
      • SSLy 3y ago
        > Try linking to rdrama.net, you'll get shadowbanned. On whole plebbit or just some subs?
        • bobsmooth 3y ago
          Whole site. I've heard that you'll get banned even for a DM with the url.
    • Foomf 3y ago
      Seems to be working too. I hadn't even heard of lemmy until I saw this post on HN.
    • mcherm 3y ago
      > there's a whole subreddit dedicated to that Which one?
      • shagie 3y ago
• psychphysic 3y ago
  No you must be mistaken, Reddit is perfect, Twitter is bad.
• seydor 3y ago
  If reddit backs down , their are losing future shareholders. Markets like companies that are complete @holes and monetize their unfair advantage.
• rsynnott 3y ago
  Is Musk running Reddit, now, too, as a hobby? This all feels oddly reminiscent of Twitter at the end of 2022, when you could briefly be banned for merely uttering the dread word 'mastodon'. Reddit seems to be doing a mistake-for-mistake replay of Twitter's recent API restriction/protectionism screwups.
  • lost_tourist 3y ago
    I think it's similar, but this time it's to take a private company and do an IPO. Bean counters hate when a corp provides a free service, literally -hate- it, as it's hard to quantify except as a loss in the loss column. It's even harder to justify with the quarter-to-quarter management style of public companies. Thus free APIs for 3rd party apps had to go. And here we are...
• mmaunder 3y ago
  I think the voting system on reddit confuses users into thinking it's a democracy. It's a business owned by Tencent and Fidelity investments with a valuation of over $10B.
• srslack 3y ago
  They've been permanently banning for bullshit for the last few years or so. Reddit is just a Tiktok sewer at this point. My 15 year old, probably would've been 16 closing on 17 year old account right now, account was permanently banned for "harassment" for asking a moderator which rule I'd broken in their subreddit. Of course, only one message was sent to them, and I was muted with no response. My post in question was contradicting another poster (or was it the mod themselves? who knows) and asking for sources for their assertions. The administration sees niche communities as just an annoyance. They're currently exploiting non-English Language oriented communities and sockpuppeting accounts with poor machine translations to build language-specific communities around the Tiktok sewer subreddits. Congrats to kn0thing, spez, et al. on your "community" "engagement" and good luck on the exit!
• iamleppert 3y ago
  If you spend "countless hours of your personal time" working on a commercial web site for free, that just makes you a fool. Stop spending your life and time working for a corporation that couldn't care less about you and isn't compensating you. When that corporation decides it is done with you, you can't cry over it. You gave away your most valuable asset - time for free to a company that made money off of you. The minute Hacker News starts to monetize I'm gone like a fart in the wind.
  • scrollaway 3y ago
    > The minute Hacker News starts to monetize I'm gone like a fart in the wind. I have some gaseous news for you.
  • tiedieconderoga 3y ago
    HN runs ads to benefit YCombinator. Notice how you can't comment on the "<YC-funded startup> is hiring <roles>" posts.
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• bogwog 3y ago
  I just noticed that lemmy.ml has a 2 day old post saying they're overloaded with users, then the post links to an instance list which shows that lemmy.ml has "1.3k users per month", and the entire lemmyverse only has 3.3k users per month. This makes me wonder: 1. Are those counters outdated/not live, or does the main lemmy instance really struggle with just 1.3k users per month? 2. Even if the counters are stale and the current numbers are much higher, the thought that a community with just 1.3k users will be able to handle a sudden influx of millions of new users without falling apart seems insane from a moderation/content point of view (even if the servers can handle it) I don't use reddit, but I would love to see a mass migration away from them to a competitor, as that type of competition is the only thing that can prevent corporations from exploiting customers in the free market. But I have doubts about Lemmy being the answer here. The last time I remember a mass migration was when Voat was a thing, although that was mostly nazis/assholes nobody wants to talk to anyways. Voat wasn't federated or anything, but IIRC they managed to scale up and survived for a couple of years. Idk if the site operators found investors or anything like that (unlikely due to the user base), but I think that centralized approach is the only way you'll be able to make a lasting dent on a site like reddit. Imagine if Twitter decided to do a 180 and embrace third party apps and launch their own reddit competitor, to steal third party reddit app users. That would be awful and funny.
• diogenescynic 3y ago
  I was banned for saying that Marvel movies were boring in /r/movies. The mods of Reddit are absolutely why it's not an investable company. You can't express an opinion that they disagree with or you're at the whim of totally arbitrary gatekeepers.
  • CyberDildonics 3y ago
    I was once banned in a subreddit that hated crpto currencies for saying "crypto currencies exist"
• lakomen 3y ago
  Installing Lemmy without Docker or rather their docker-compose has not been possible, despite it being reported since beginning of this year. No matter what version, it doesn't compile because of some file not found error without additional info. One of the maintainers just arrogantly wrote something like," only the official way is supported". I was following what was written on their documentation. But you can neither have a version installed and compiled by you, or a docker managed service without all the other services of compose. e.g. no local non-docker database. For me that's a red flag. Ignorance and arrogance. But they want my resources so they can federate content in my hardware on their site. I don't think so.
• irrational 3y ago
  I signed up for Lemmy and was approved. Then I tried to create a community. It never worked. I tried numerous times on different computers, but it just spins and spins after clicking the create button. I have no idea why since there are no error messages. If they really want Lemmy to succeed, they need to do a lot more work to make it user friendly.
• bioemerl 3y ago
  Yeah, read their thread on China if you want to see the real face of Lemmy. Nobody should be migrating there.
  • EamonnMR 3y ago
    Link?
    • bioemerl 3y ago
      https://lemmy.ml/post/1150805 https://lemmy.ml/post/1150805 Lemmy is run by tankies.
• celdon25 3y ago
  Note: If you actually agree with the OP, you should put your money where your mouth is and edit your Reddit history with this tool, to point to OP's post. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
• brightball 3y ago
  IMO if Reddit manages to bring itself down with all of these actions it will be a net good for society. Somehow, it's always skipped when people discuss the evils of social media referencing Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok but IMO Reddit has been just as bad if not worse for misleading information.
• yunohn 3y ago
  > I moderated as many subs as over 25, many of them had atleast over 1k people, some as many as 200k if not more. To be clear, mods also ban people for spamming. So this user was well aware of and has probably enforced this rule countless times on other redditors.
• EMCymatics 3y ago
  https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/9c3a287202ed2fdae8e40e2ef3428cd4.jpg https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/9c3a287202ed2fdae8e40e2ef...
• sam-uk 3y ago
  Kbin seems better IMHO https://kbin.social/ https://kbin.social/ https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/src/branch/develop/src https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/src/branch/develop/src
  • dbzer0 3y ago
    Can you explain why? I'm trying to decide between lemmy and kbin and I can't figure out how to judge them.
    • stevenhubertron 3y ago
      Kbin is the better option if you want a reddit clon
• sam-uk 3y ago
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• efitz 3y ago
  I don’t know who/what Lemmy or “LemmyMigration” is. I don’t know if they share the same values as me or if I would find them abhorrent. But if what they were saying was legal, then I am strongly opposed to social media having the right to silence them. Reddit in particular has less of an argument to support such censorship since no “off-topic” argument applies. If you don’t like what’s said on a particular subreddit, don’t go there. Start a new one with a topic that takes the diametrically opposed position. Section 215 assumed good faith on the part of internet companies. We’ve seen now that they will manipulate content visibility for ideology and profit; i don’t give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. F** them.
• Atlas667 3y ago
  Nothing to see here, just platforms naturally developing under capitalism. Just like the development of any other industry their purpose gently transforms into maximizing shareholder value and not to provide equal value to the consumer, this, contrary to a superficial analysis, does not contradict the existence of the industry itself. Because in order to contradict the industry there must be an equal amount of power on both sides (of consumer and supplier) which we would use to prevent the use value drop to us. But that's the thing with capitalism: they own the far reaching platforms themselves, the live at the forefront of capabilities. So where is power left? Any resistance must occur "underground" where there is usually very little exposition. This is akin to wanting powertool manufacturers to standardize some battery interfaces. While it may be convenient to us, they have no incentive to do that and we have no power to force them besides boycott, which in a world with millions of people with millions of needs, is impractical unless you have mass media support, which is in itself almost an impossibility. This will happen to any popular platform that maximizes profits; this happens to every popular platform with private ownership where private owners are (legally/existentially) incentivized to maximize profits. This cannot happen in popular platforms whose aims are not maximizing profits; this cannot happen in popular platforms that have no individual owner. But a time where this is feasible has not arrived yet. I think a good example of this is standards, which can allow individuals to get rich, but not an individual. This can be leveraged even more to prevent mass users to suffer from capitalizing of the ones with capital.
• stiltzkin 3y ago
  At the end of the day people want to move to something that works with Apollo or RiF, and that's something Lemmy lacks. Best second alternative I come across is Tildes, is invite only and is like how Reddit was few years ago, without the memes, AI bots, astroturfing and glowies. There is an alternative being developed in nostr worth keep an eye.