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Tell HN: My Reddit account was banned after adding my subs to the protest
As you may be aware, there is an upcoming protest[0] on June 12-14 where many subreddits[1] are going private for 48 hours in protest of reddit's API fee increase[2][3], which many expect will lead to the end of all third party apps.
I moderate a few subreddits for a niche hobby, and decided to join the protest. We're fairly small, if non-negligible potatos: altogether, maybe 10k-15k active users on a busy day, but still want to show support.
So, I commented to add the subs to the list[1] and made announcement posts based on the template[4] linked from r/modcoord.
Several minutes later, the site logged me out. I received an email from reddit that said my account had been locked for "suspicious activity" and I would need to reset my password.
The timing seemed curious, but as I was logged in over an Airbnb's wifi, I figured it could be legitimate.
When I logged back in, I saw that all of the posts and comments I've made from this account had been deleted. The password reset requirement is understandable; the fact that the posts and comments were not restored, less so.
Looks like it's finally time to encourage my community to move to another site.
0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36187705 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36187705
1. https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1401qw5/incomplete_and_growing_list_of_participating/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1401qw5/incomplet...
2. https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/13xh1e7/an_open_letter_on_the_state_of_affairs_regarding/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/13xh1e7/an_open_l...
3. https://old.reddit.com/r/evilbuildings/comments/140n3m3/hey_reddit_execs_stop_being_greedy_assholes_this/jmwbkpv/ https://old.reddit.com/r/evilbuildings/comments/140n3m3/hey_...
4. https://old.reddit.com/r/ProCSS/wiki/api_protest_template https://old.reddit.com/r/ProCSS/wiki/api_protest_template
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago[flagged]
- IntelMiner 3y ago>Reddit sucks. If you use it, you are part of the problem "We should improve society somewhat" "Ah but yet you participate in society, curious! I am very intelligent :)"[1] >unless you were complaining when people were trying to ban one of only a couple conservative subs /r/Conspiracy, /r/Conservative are two of the biggest troll far- conservative subs on the site. They've gone from strength to strength regardless of Reddit's actions >talking about not letting peak Covid insanity become the “new normal” Millions of people died, what is wrong with you >or if you were ok with someone being banned for “I don’t view trans women as women” Bad covid takes and Transphobia? Yuck [1] https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342.png https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/259/257/342...
- s9w 3y ago[dead]
- operatingthetan 3y agoIf they are doing this to a lot of accounts it seems Reddit might have finally found their Digg mistake!
- poopsmithe 3y ago"Looks like it's finally time to encourage my community to move to another site." where will you go?
- dt3ft 3y agoI’m building an alternative and I could use a hand: https://flingup.com https://flingup.com but I doubt people will jump ship, Stockholm syndrome?
- tail_exchange 3y agoHow will you prevent it from becoming another cesspool for bigots? Seems to be the fate for every Reddit alternative, like Voat.
- 14zadz 3y agoIts already pretty close once you look at some of the top posts on there unfortunately.
- KomoD 3y ago> Stockholm syndrome? No, all the alternatives are just terrible, I can't see myself using your alternative either.
- whycombagator 3y agoNot bad. I did see a racial slur on the first post I clicked on though (it was a comment)
- quickthrower2 3y agocpanel->PHPBB fast install One does not simply: Ban self hosters
- SV_BubbleTime 3y agoCan cancel culture remove a forum? There are a few examples of yes.
- jerry80 3y agoReddit has been on a downward spiral for years. I guess they are in a tough spot, because they're trying to monetize it, but the way they are simply ignoring the needs of their users will surely lead to their downfall.
- nico 3y agoSorry about that - hope Reddit comes around Unrelated: Does this post break the site for everyone on mobile or just me? It seems to happen with Tell/Ask HN posts sometimes
- ghayes 3y agoI am guessing it’s the really long link that’s not being broken up.
- pkos98 3y agoDoesn't Reddit realize they rely on a symbiotic relationship with the community? This ignorant and greedy behavior proofs otherwise. Besides, IMO an ad-infused API where every Xth post/comment is an ad may be a compromise.
- pndy 3y agoA hot guess: they measured how many users they're able to lose and decided to go with the plan. The remaining part will be enough to run the business for a while, because they're of younger generation that has been conditioned to ads already and they simply don't bother about em or use of any 3rd party alternatives
- smsm42 3y agoThey think "they may be whining now, but in a year they'll forget anything ever happened and we'll get the promotions for implementing our brilliant plan". It may also be true. Or it may ruin the viability of Reddit as a business, in which case the persons who decided it will fail sideways and move on to receive the same salary somewhere else.
- Balgair 3y agoHonestly, I hope they measured something. However, looking at the app, the moderation decisions, the 'firing', and just about everything that the admins do, I know they haven't measured anything. I've worked in enough BigCos, startups, middle sized, &c. companies to know that Reddit's management, like literally every other company's management, is just making stuff up on the fly and hoping it works. Because that's all that they have ever done.
- vkou 3y agoThey probably measured click-through rates between users using the official app, versus third-party apps. That's easy to measure.
- raydev 3y ago> A hot guess Why is this even a guess? The rumors of Reddit's death are greatly exaggerated. I'm shocked at the number of people here who don't understand that Reddit has thousands of SWEs and PMs and Directors now, and they've definitely run the numbers on many outcomes. Reddit has no viable competition for the service it provides. And it's no longer a space for techies and nerds, Digg v2 is something that happened in the old world. There's a bunch of people using Reddit exclusively on their phones via the first party app, and I'd bet it's approaching majority. Reddit is not going anywhere.
- temptemptemp111 3y ago[dead]
- joenot443 3y agoPlease don’t let HN become a support forum for reddit. It’s a dying and moulding corpse that you needn’t waste brain cycles worrying about, if I were you I would consider your ejection a blessing.
- charcircuit 3y agoI see this less of support and more of a news update on how Reddit is countering the protest. It's possible this is just a coincidence, but it is something to be aware of at least.
- IntelMiner 3y agoReddit is a large social media site and its demise is newsworthy, regardless of its association with HN
- nubinetwork 3y ago> Please don’t let HN become a support forum for reddit Or PayPal Or eBay Or Stripe (I could keep going but you get the point)
- HKH2 3y agoWhy did you choose three services that actually matter if you lose access to them without warning?
- nubinetwork 3y agoBecause their (former) users come here to complain like we're their personal outrage army.
- agilob 3y agoMake the subs private for 2 weeks then
- client4 3y agoYou know, I still miss Digg. I wonder what's next.
- 7speter 3y agoI mean if you say enough things people don’t like here you get comment limited and/or shadowbanned so I don’t see whats the point of complaining here. Don’t ask me how I know about this…
- Paul-Craft 3y agoCan confirm. Don't ask me how I know, either. But, I can confirm that the worst part of being put in the HN penalty box is that you basically can't get out. I think that's pretty shitty.
- slenk 3y agoHmm I feel that explains a lot :(
- helf 3y agoYeeep. Same thing happened to me. I went from getting lots of vote activity (positive and negative) and responses to… nothing essentially after I made one comment that blew up a few months ago. It’s pretty damn disappointing. Guess I shouldn’t have been surprised tho.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- MockObject 3y agoMost of your recent comments are dead, and they don't seem too offensive.
- helf 3y agoTBF, I was kind of a dick in the one that blew up but not insanely. It was mostly a really political/social topic. So I did the cardinal sin of responding to that sort of topic :) But.. yeah. Live and learn I guess. It still bothers me that they moderate it like that.
- bruce511 3y agoThis is an exercise in power. It's basically the online version of every labor dispute ever. In any labor dispute workers test the water to see how much power they weild. They threaten or invoke some sort of action (like a strike.) Management respond with lockouts, terminations and so on. Ultimately there is usually some resolution where both sides understand their co-dependence, but equally understand the limits of their own power. Reddit is following the playback here. Moderators instigate a "strike" of sorts. They get locked out. Management tests the water to see if they weild actual community power, or are just a small group of malcontents. It will be interesting to see this play out.
- PrimeMcFly 3y agoMods have no real power, because there are any number of volunteers waiting in the wings to take over to be able to wield that same power. In most subs most care about having that power to silence and punish people they dislike more than to do actual good, IMO.
- bheadmaster 3y agoExactly. They are not workers, they do it for free.
- bruce511 3y agoEven volunteers have power. The question is how much? Often workers (paid or unpaid) believe they are irreplaceable, and start acting that way. It behoves management to find out if that is true. It can also help the relationships a lot if the workers find out its not true. We're all in relationships with others all the time. I can push my suppliers some, but not too hard. I complain about other suppliers, but in some cases have little power so walk softly. Reddit moderators believe they have power over API pricing. I guess we'll see who is right.
- Sunspark 3y agoThe majority yes, but some of them are Reddit employees and are paid.
- operatingthetan 3y agoIt's strange but it appears that Reddit may be astroturfing their own site: https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/140gd1y/bot_army_in_full_effect_to_downplay_the_changes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/140gd1y/b...
- Eupolemos 3y agoI am unable to watch this on my phone. It says "either you watch this page in the official reddit app or not at all".
- deadbolt 3y agoIt's a screenshot of multiple accounts posting the same thing. This link is the content of the post: https://i.redd.it/bot-army-in-full-effect-to-downplay-the-changes-already-v0-81c2latfr04b1.png?s=966d34f8f120335a03bd4c2937c14b52eb508576 https://i.redd.it/bot-army-in-full-effect-to-downplay-the-ch...
- Akronymus 3y agoUse old.reddit
- technion 3y agoThat's not an issue with the link, that's the Reddit behaviour for most links to the site in general when accessed over a mobile device.
- retsibsi 3y agoThis would be a weirdly clumsy approach for Reddit to take. I don't know whether they're too ethical to do something like this, but surely they're too competent to do it in such a silly way. Simplest explanation is someone else did it, perhaps to frame Reddit or perhaps for a more boring spambot-related reason.
- dvngnt_ 3y agothe CEO admitted to editing a user's comment in a fit of rage
- hammyhavoc 3y agoHonestly, it sounds like a great reason for the world to not care about Reddit. I hope people start seeing the value in decentralization again.
- taskforcegemini 3y agonah, they will go and use discord instead.
- colordrops 3y agoA reddit style forum seems like it would be relatively easy to decentralize and federate. Any node could host one or more moderated forums, with other nodes caching messages for the users who access the network through those nodes.
- dindresto 3y agoYup, that's what Lemmy does: https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/
- hammyhavoc 3y agoAs with any of these concepts, they will ultimately live and die by their userbase and thus value of the content presented. Having the software itself is only a small part of the battle ahead. https://join-lemmy.org/instances https://join-lemmy.org/instances says there's only 2.6k monthly active users in the entire "lemmyverse". That's not even getting off the starting blocks for even a single niche sub-Reddit. Getting people to even humour the idea of going elsewhere when there's genuine value in pre-existing content is difficult, especially when it comes to troubleshooting, guides, advice et al, which unfortunately, Reddit is brimming with. Windows Phone was a pretty good example of the "no users" problem: a solid alternative to iOS and Android, but not much in the way of big apps because of a lack of users, but the lack of users primarily stemmed from a lack of big apps. Chicken-and-egg scenario ad infinitum.
- geysersam 3y ago
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- Battleloser 3y ago[flagged]
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- ddtaylor 3y agoThe sad reality is that as long as the basic memes and cat pictures continue to get served it doesn't really matter to the Reddit audience as a whole and also doesn't affect their bottom line.
- dt3ft 3y agoSorry to hear this, but I can’t say that I am surprised. I can offer you a new home on the alternative I’m currently building: https://flingup.com https://flingup.com
- anonred 3y agoHow do you plan on keeping FlingUp from turning into Voat?
- dt3ft 3y agoBy creating a non-profit foundation and running it like Wikimedia does Wikipedia. No ads, tracking etc and no shareholders. This way, it will be alive for as long as the users find it valuable enough to keep donating.
- goplayoutside 3y agoAre you the original creator of Voat? FlingUp looks great from a functionality and UI perspective, but in five minutes on the site I'm already seeing outright racism and other problems that kept a lot of people off Voat. Do you intend to address these types of issues?
- mypastself 3y agoI haven’t seen much of that yet. But funnily enough, one of the top links for me right now is “Text message that will bring down Biden”, which sounds exactly like something you’d see on r/whitepeopletwitter or similar front-page disinformation subreddits, only from a right-wing instead of left-wing perspective.
- goplayoutside 3y agoBased on its functionality and UI, I'd really like for FlingUp to succeed. It looks like the best reddit alternative that's currently available. But if it's just going to descend into being another Voat, I'm not going to bother encouraging my communities to switch over. We're all familiar with what invariably happens to forums / social media sites that have no restrictions on what type of speech is allowed. Lemmy is looking like a viable alternative. According to this[0] page running your own instance is pretty light on resources, and they have an official Ansible playbook install option[1]. And, whereas with FlingUp I have no control over their moderation policies, with Lemmy I can set the moderation policies for the instance and defederate any other instances as needed. 0. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/administration.html https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/administration... 1. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible
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- wly_cdgr 3y agoI mean what did you expect?
- millzlane 3y agoI was perm. banned for making a joke about choking out an attacking dog on a video of a guy choking out an attacking dog. I can see you being banned for that.Try to appeal it, I did a couple of times sincerely apologizing for my actions. My ban wasn't reversed. Mostly read it to keep up with the news and car stuff.
- HKH2 3y agoAll you did was admit your guilt.
- read_if_gay_ 3y agoAs a private company, Reddit can do whatever they want. You can make your own Reddit if you want to. You are not entitled to a platform if you do not abide by the rules. You don't get to abuse the town square to further your own political causes. Yadda yadda yadda.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- mypastself 3y agoIn case you’re being serious, the OP didn’t call for government to interfere, but for the community to migrate away from the site. This is about unhappy users boycotting a product to force a reversal of policy. Now, whether they’ll succeed is a different matter entirely…
- vkou 3y agoThat's 'just' a collective action problem, solving which is essentially impossible. Communities have gravity, and its incredibly difficult to escape those gravity wells. Even if the power-users that produce valuable content move somewhere else, the subreddits they used will just link to that content, but keep the discussion on Reddit.
- mypastself 3y agoLike I said, different discussion. But I am skeptical that there’s a critical mass of users necessary for truly reversing Reddit’s plans. With the IPO approaching, I feel like the best they can hope for is a temporary stay of execution.
- makin 3y agoIs this really a political cause? Seems to me like it's ultimately a conflict over the technologies used in the website, which are less individual political causes and more the average user's concern.
- ciex 3y ago
- Sunspark 3y agoYou know what I learned recently about Reddit that I found unimpressive? They have a site-wide ban on posting Telegram links. So as a result, Twitter gets to be the middleman between Reddit and Telegram. Reddit is partly owned (10%) by Tencent the Chinese WeChat giant.
- LordDragonfang 3y agoWhile it's a little shitty to unilaterally ban them, it's pretty well known that for some reason people frequently post telegram links for illegal activity (drugs, scams, and exchanging CSAM), so I can see why they would do it to cover their own ass.
- andrewinardeer 3y agoIt wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if every moderator from every subreddit who joins this 'protest' finds that their account is removed from moderation privileges and they end up with a banned account. In no way, shape or form does a moderator "own" a subreddit. They are merely harvesting the land on Reddit's server farm. At the first sign of disagreeable dissent The Reddit Overlords, with a few clicks of the keyboard, can and will remove the protesters from their property. Any appeals will go to /Dev/Null. I'm genuinely surprised that moderators are putting what little power on the site they have at risk. We all know that most moderators like a good power flex and some genuinely thrive off it yet I don't think they have thought this through. While they think it may be a noble and just cause Reddit won't tolerate a dip in ad revenue and will happily nuke their accounts and hand the subreddit off to someone else who will toe the line in exchange for free janitorial and field plowing duties.
- operatingthetan 3y agoMods could create temp accounts, mod them to their subs, then use those for the announcements etc. Even without being careful about IPs or email addresses it would make a bigger mess for reddit admins to sort though when banning people.
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- andrewinardeer 3y agoAbsolutely. Yet this is strategy is completely void if an entire subreddit's moderation group is removed and reddit admins installed instead.
- operatingthetan 3y agoYeah it depends on their goal. If it's to scare individual mods out of participating this would work, if it's to just take over whole subs, then obviously reddit could just do that no problem all over the site.
- deleted 3y ago
- chx 3y agoSend a message to /r/reddit.com , it's more likely you are caught in the spam filter going awry than a power trip by the mods. They can easily restore you and your posts.
- assimpleaspossi 3y agoIt doesn't matter. Reddit has never had any affect on my life or anyone I know. It never comes up in any conversation I've ever had. If reddit went away today, I'm positive no one walking down the street would notice or care. At least not enough to make them stop their walk.
- Razengan 3y agoRemember that /u/spez (Reddit's CEO Steve Huffman) SECRETLY EDITED USER COMMENTS without leaving any indication of an edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13027031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13027031 "Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were critical of him" And that's just the crap they've been caught with.
- ptman 3y agoYou can probably run a nice lemmy instance on a free oracle cloud vm https://paul.totterman.name/posts/free-clouds/ https://paul.totterman.name/posts/free-clouds/
- 7373737373 3y agoReddit is very funny in that it's a company that tries to extract as much value from its users as possible, when it's the users who create the vast majority of the value in the first place. Its selfishness and arrogance ~~will be~~ - no - is its downfall. The founders failed the second they decided to make it more for-profit than it needed to be.
- CamelCaseName 3y agoAlexis Ohanian's fault for selling out stupid early and throwing the community to the wolves. Worked out for him in the end though.
- stuntkite 3y agoI dunno. I'm a long time reddit user, but I'm done with it. It's really time to just dig into some self hosted shit with a reasonable ingress like Cloudfront or whatever works and just dump this crap. People still say "and my axe" on reddit. We don't need this siloed internet anymore. mTLS is SUPER easy to implement and in my opinion is the future of the internet. I've got some courseware as well as some simple VMs, containers, helm charts, juju charms and I've got a process for building custom distros with GPU support and clusters inside clusters that can federate with enterprise org level OIDC. I'm a bit ahead of the curve I think? I don't know. All this talk about the big guys, we are at a tipping point. It's happening now. That's why they are trying to regulate AI IMO. They understand that we are moments away from being able to bridge all of our own resources in a way that isn't siloed. We can host it all ourselves now. It's fine. The future is going to be weird... but really it's just getting the internet back that got hijacked from us 20ish years ago or whatever. If you want to try yourself, since I can't recommend my gear because I have to finish the rest of the rollout, KubeSail doesn't get enough attention. Easy to set up on any computer you have laying around, but their gizmo is pretty cool too. I think their app store is neat and I could get my grandma hosting her own K8s cluster to the web with this tutorial. https://kubesail.com https://kubesail.com https://codeburst.io/ddclient-c9a6ac1d8f81 https://codeburst.io/ddclient-c9a6ac1d8f81 Throw Netmaker or an mTLS implementation on top and now you can federate networks, share resources with labels, taints, or tolerations, manage volumes, yadda yadda. I am sorry for your loss... but you know.... Scrape your subs and host them yourself. Heck, I'm so sick of reddit.... hummm. This could be a good tutorial demo. Mirror a subreddit with periodic syndication on a self hosted reddit clone that shows the old context and creates new with a few commands. Sure there's still some problems, but it's a far site better than the blockchain web can pull off. Also, don't try to do cluster to cluster communication with straight wireguard/tailscale. mTLS or Netmaker. They are very easy tools to mess with just with some docker containers too, no cluster needed.
- DueDilligence 3y ago[dead]
- ryanmercer 3y agoSounds like you copy-pasted a post to multiple subs in rapid succession and got caught in a spam filter... Doesn't sound like a conspiracy to me, sounds like anti-spam measures doing what they do.
- puppybang 3y ago[dead]
- swat535 3y agoThis is a golden opportunity for any competitor to release a Reddit clone and heavily market it. They could easily go after mods and community leaders and entice them to bring over their subs and think of a migration path. This could be the moment when Reddit splits in half and once many people move the rest follow.
- metalliqaz 3y agoThere are several clones. They all follow the same pattern. 1) clone Reddit 2) must attract users because Reddit's value is in the large user base 3) the only early adopters are the ones who are banned from Reddit 4) curious 'normies' visit the clone to find it is full of white nationalists 5) clone dies e.g. Voat
- replwoacause 3y agoI am so sick of Reddit and would gladly welcome an alternative, or going back to decentralized communities again.
- bezier-curve 3y agoAll of my Reddit accounts were banned along with my IP and browser fingerprint after calling out an employee's abuse of shadow banning for simply tagging their username in a comment. The Reddit employee discovered my post 6 months later because I linked to it on my profile and now I have no way to use Reddit without a VPN, and I lost my ability to really consume their service the way I used to. Reddit just does not respect their users anymore. Their content policy is enforced erratically at the whim of whatever current internal political environment is going on inside their company. I gave this company subscription money for years, purchased hundreds of dollars in rewards, and it absolutely meant nothing because of one employee wanting to cover their tracks.
- ck2 3y agoI was thinking last night the only way to properly build a unified community yet not run out of servers/bandwidth is to make a singular messaging system with signed authentication checksums universally distributed and if you want it to remain free and open you have to put your money where your mouth is by everyone buying their own servers and bandwidth. Not quite Mastodon, more unified singular like Reddit where it is seamless integration and frictionless BUT every user/post is authenticated by a cipher signature and everyone runs their own server pulling down the newest updates every minute. At most it would be minute behind? Maybe best comparison is the old FidoNet with the forum backbone, I forget what it was called. More like usenet? But where there are independent owners of each subforum that can cancel/delete messages officially (of course people can still sift through the deletions unofficially) Spam is the biggest problem but ultra-fast lightweight message cancelling is the answer to that?
- collyw 3y agoThat's funny a reddit mod being unreasonably banned by other mods. Reddit is just far left propaganda these days.
- TDiblik 3y agoAnd then being pointed at as a source of all problems. I'm pretty sure I've heard about something similar that was happening in Slovanian countries not so long ago :D /s
- aigoochamna 3y agoWhy is this is a surprise? You don't own Reddit. It's not "your" subreddit. You're a free worker (moderator) and you went against the boss (Reddit). Of course they fired you.
- LordDragonfang 3y agoWhile I suppose it's possible that this was a conspiracy, I'm a little disappointed that not a single person in that thread is considering the possibility that this was a legitimate reaction to a possible account breach? OP logged on from (what would appear to reddit as) public wifi and that posted drastic messages. That's a lot like what it would look like if someone had hijacked a mod account. Deleting those posts isn't crazy, especially if the janitor isn't aware of reddit politics and is just doing their job. Also, not to nitpick, but OP is lying in the title. He clearly wasn't banned, he was temporarily locked out. Like, don't get me wrong, reddit is being incredibly shitty lately, but probably not for these specific reasons.
- moomoo11 3y agoJust don’t use Reddit.
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- notpahimar 3y agoThis happened to me. I set my mid sized porn subreddit to private some time ago. Logged in the next day and got a message: "your account has been suspended for violating the rules." I say fuck them. I don't get anything out of this subreddit, and they get free labour. Subreddits can't exist without moderators and they know that. The reddit staff are just self-destructive idiots. If you still want to comment in support of the strike, it is really easy to make another account and not get banned for ban evasion, but remember to never hint that you are evading a ban, because you will be banned for hunting it even if they have no other evidence. If you're gonna delete your reddit account anyway then you're welcome to see whether this is true - comment somewhere (on your normal account) about how you got banned for joining the protest and this is your second account and report back what happens. If you are evading bans and you want to actually use reddit then make sure to store your account state (e.g. subscribed subreddits) outside of your account so you can transfer it to each new account. And get a GDPR dump of each account, which you can do after it's banned.
- metalliqaz 3y agohas this happened to anyone else? because if it's really about the protest, it shouldn't just be one mod targeted
- primax 3y agoI've been working on a guide on how to use tools that delete your comment history. The idea being that if I leave due to this fiasco, I'm going to shred all my 11 years of content so that Reddit can't monetize it once I'm gone. Does anyone have experience in this that might be able to help?
- dangsuckshard 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoI don't know what you mean by "censorship" but I'd like to know what history you're referring to. HN is certainly a moderated/curated site but we try as hard as we can to moderate it on principle and to explain clearly what those principles are.
- scrumlord 3y ago[dead]
- SharpMaxwell 3y agoYou sure the airbnbs website wasnt just ip banned or anything? ive had like 3 accounts perm banned randomly because of accidentally logging into a wifi that was ip banned
- 6r17 3y agoI think the most important thing at this point is to build a meeting point outside of reddit for all those people. It doesn't have to be a fully built reddit alternative, but it should discuss how software is governed. I think that's what it all lies to. Software is not like other products. Websites are not like other products. We've let them own us for almost 20 years now. But we used them for more than that, in china they had post-walls in the street. We used to simply have community boards in real life. And now those highroads are being jeopardized by companies in their own interest. Shouldn't we ask ourselves, is it a benefit to humanity, if ours highway communication is being controlled by corporate entities ? Can't we make an ONG which sole goal is to discuss and exchange on how those highways should be governed ? This is a chance for humanity to grow but we are turning this into a pile of disaster instead of grouping up. I do not think any individual at this point should be "in charge" of those high ways. It should be an opportunity for all of us to join up, and build a governance framework of sort ; and from there create free tools which are not tied to economic narrow sight. Developers of such tools are all around the wrold, and centralization or decentralization is not the problem, it's either an achievement or a nice-to-have thing ; but in most cases, users don't care. How do we group up, how do we discuss together like we do on HN, but we keep posting "some new alternative" every few week without realizing that if we group up in a simple github organization, we might be the most impactful workforce of the entire web ? Do we really have to benefit from this ? Is this all not above us ?
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- mdpm 3y agoWho owns a community? The individuals who contribute to it, or the organizations that foot the file hosting bill? How do we move the ownership to where it belongs?
- poorbutdebtfree 3y ago[dead]