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Try out Bard, it's coding is much improved in the last 2 weeks. I've unfortunately switched over for the time being.
by okdood64 3y ago
Try out Bard, it's coding is much improved in the last 2 weeks. I've unfortunately switched over for the time being.
- bbotond 3y ago“Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!”
- sintezcs 3y agoSame for me, I’m in Estonia :(
- corgihamlet 3y agoYou can use a VPN to use an American connection, it doesn't matter where your Google account is registered.
- bbotond 3y agoThanks, I’ll try it! (I’m in Hungary)
- airgapstopgap 3y agoNot necessarily American, you just have to avoid EU and, I believe, Russia/China/Cuba etc.
- column 3y agoI'm in Switzerland and Bard is locked out, we do not go by EU laws because we are not part of the EU. We have plenty of bilateral deals but still.
- GTP 3y agoBut don't you sill have privacy laws very similar to the GDPR?
- pavlov 3y agoIn practice Switzerland adopts EU law with minor revisions because doing otherwise would lock Swiss businesses out of the EU internal market. The Swiss version of GDPR is coming in September: https://www.ey.com/en_ch/law/a-new-era-for-data-protection-in-switzerland-are-you-ready https://www.ey.com/en_ch/law/a-new-era-for-data-protection-i...
- rxyz 3y agoGoogle's passion for region locking is insane to me
- bwb 3y agoIts a legal thing, not something they want to do
- EForEndeavour 3y agoWhat law prohibits Google from making Bard available outside the USA?
- simse 3y agoIt's blocked in the EU because they don't want to/can't comply with GDPR.
- flyvemaskine 3y ago[dead]
- anticensor 3y agoIt is not GDPR, it is available in some countries outside the EU with GDPR-like privacy regimes.
- leucineleprec0n 3y agoThis is naïve though. Regulation — especially such as this — has to be enforced and there is obviously room to over and under interpret the text of the law on a whim, or varying fines. OAI knows this and looking at the EU lately, what they’re doing is wise.
- PinguTS 3y agoWhich is interesting, because if they can't comply within the EU, then how do they comply outside of the EU. With that I mean, if they have concerns that there is private data of EU citizens somewhere in that, then that is also in there for users outside of the EU. That said, they do not comply with GDPR anyway. If that its not the case, then they could also enable it for users within the EU.
- scottfr 3y agoThe Bard model (Bison) is available without region lock as part of Google Cloud Platform. In addition to being able to call it via an API, they have a similar developer UI to the OpenAI playground to interactively experiment with it. https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative/language/create/text https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative/langua...
- lee101 3y ago[dead]
- taosx 3y agoThank you!
- sumedh 3y agoIs that free or do you have to pay? Also do you need to change the options like Token Limit etc?
- pverghese 3y agoIt's completely free. No tokens nothing.
- Gasp0de 3y agoBut it can't be used unless I enable billing, which I am not willing to do after reading all the horror stories about people getting billed thousands overnight. I'm not willing to take the risk that I forget some script and it keeps creating charges.
- skinnymuch 3y agoUse a CC or debit that can limit charges. Privacy.com is a generic one. There’s others. Also Capital One, Bank of America, Apple Card and maybe some others have some semblance of control over temporary CCs. Ideally one would want to be able to have a cap on the amount that can be spent in a given period. Thanks for this! I had a temporary Cap One card on my cloud accounts. I’m going to switch them to Privacy.com ones to limit amount if I can’t find another solution.
- AndyNemmity 3y agoI just tried Bard based on this comment, and it's really, really bad. Can you please help me with how you are prompting it?
- moffkalast 3y agoIf you have to worry about prompting, it already tells you everything one needs to know about how good the model is.
- Tostino 3y agoI don't think that's true at all. Think of it like setting up conversation constraints to reduce the potential pitfalls for a model. You can vastly improve the capability of just about any LLM I've used by being clear about what you specifically want considered, and what you don't want considered when solving a problem. It'll take you much farther, by allowing you to incrementally solve your problem in smaller steps while giving the model the proper context required for each step of the problem-solving process, and limiting the things it must consider for each branch of your problem.
- pverghese 3y agoDon't know what you are doing? But Bard is so much faster than openai and its answers are clearer and more succint.
- minihat 3y agoThis is just... false. Bard is not just a little worse than gpt-4 for coding, it's more like several orders of magnitude worse. I can't imagine how you are getting superior outputs from Bard.
- BeefySwain 3y agoCan you give an example of a prompt and the output for each that you find Bard to be better for?
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- qwepjn2oi3j 3y agoNo thanks! I have better things to do than feeding that advertising behemoth. What I like about ChatGPT is that I don't see any ads at all!
- arcticbull 3y ago> What I like about ChatGPT is that I don't see any ads at all! For now. It's just a marketing tool/demo site, like ITA Matrix was/is. The ads are vended by Bing.
- TeMPOraL 3y agoThat you know of. Don't you worry, if there is any medium, place or mode of interaction people spend time on, advertising will eventually metastasize to it, and will keep growing until it completely devalues the activity and destroys most of the utility it provides.
- chaxor 3y agoGoogle (Deepmind) actually has the people and has developed the science to make the best AI products in the world, but unfortunately Bard seems to be thrown together in an afternoon by an intern, and then handed off to a hoard of marketing people. It's not good right now. Deepmind is one of the best scientifically, they just don't really make products. OpenAI is essentially the direct opposite of that.
- ape4 3y agoI asked it to review some code a couple days ago - the comments while valid english were nonsense