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I started drinking milk a year or two ago. Most milks have vitamin D added. It has made a stark difference in my life and it wasn't until I was looking back say

• hatsunearu 3y ago
  Milk has loads of other nutrients. It's literally supposed to be a meal replacement for baby cows. Might be because of anything to be honest.
• chrisco255 3y ago
  Vitamin D is fat soluble. The fat in milk helps your body to absorb it better.
  • ec109685 3y ago
    You don’t need much fat to absorb vitamin D and amount of fat you eat with the supplement doesn’t really affect the level in your bloodstream: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23427007/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23427007/ “ We conclude that absorption was increased when a 50,000 IU dose of vitamin D was taken with a low-fat meal, compared with a high-fat meal and no meal, but that the greater absorption did not result in higher plasma 25(OH)D levels in the low-fat meal group.”
    • diydsp 3y ago
      That study focused on infrequent megadoses... check out studies like this on that give modest daily doses: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30691521/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30691521/ Or this meta-regression of 43 studies: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24993750/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24993750/
      • ec109685 3y ago
        Right, but they don’t show you need a lot of fat to help with absorption.
• RadixDLT 3y ago
  but doesn't pasteurization kill any vitamins and nutrients?
  • random3 3y ago
    How would this affect the added vitamin and fat?
    • xattt 3y ago
      It helps the poster build a straw man argument.
  • nkmnz 3y ago
    No, it doesn't.
    • cultofmetatron 3y ago
      of course it does. pasteurization involves rapidly heating and cooling the milk to kill off bacteria and viruses. Thats going to denature a lot of enzymes as well as change the structure of a lot of proteins. To say that no vitamins or nutrition is affected is an incredulously false to make here
      • mtizim 3y ago
        I think the parent meant "`for any choice of (∀) nutrient, pasteurization kills nutrient` evaluates to false" Rather than "`any nutrient (∃), pasteurization kills nutrient` evaluates to false" - which is what you seem to be responding to.
  • vixen99 3y ago
    A study back in 1974 reported that vit. D in milk was unaffected by pasteurization, boiling, or sterilization. Hartman, A. M., and L. P. Dryden. 1974. Vitamins in milk and milk products. Pages 325–401 in Fundamentals of Dairy Chemistry. 2nd ed. B. H. Webb, A. H. Johnson, and J. A. Alford, ed. AVI/ Van Nostrand Reinhold, New York, NY. Different cooking methods for other foods can alter the D content but not drastically it seems. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29548435/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29548435/)
• diydsp 3y ago
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  • PuffinBlue 3y ago
    19 videos! That’s quite the pile of research.
    • vile_wretch 3y ago
      More like a pile of clickbait and quackery. The video from a holistic dentist is enough to invalidate the entire list in my eyes. Holistic dentistry suggests that oil pulling can repair cavities, that cavities disrupt "meridians" in the body and can then cause cancer and other wild ideas. Not to mention the fact that having mercury amalgam fillings removed (a big topic in holistic dentistry) is far more dangerous than having them in your mouth.
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        • gordian-mind 3y ago
          Why didn't you do that, instead of collecting clickbait YouTube videos?
          • diydsp 3y ago
            Nice troll account you've got there. Pity if someone were to have saved the results from the recent alias-account finder and unmask you... Anyway as i said above i have been wanting to go through all of the dozens of references but i have other projects, a long drive to work, and little desire to please others. i have taken the step of standing on others' shoulders and collecting their work. Spoon-feeding it to people who have made up their minds to not consider science has lately sagged on my list of desires.
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• puttycat 3y ago
  I started taking vitamin D supplements (D3 pills) after getting a blood test with below norm vitamin D level. Saw an immediate improvement in concentration, mood and energy throughout the day. (this is merely anecdotal, of course) I don't see how milk itself is related though.
  • red-iron-pine 3y ago
    Aye, vit d in pill form is cheap and abundant. doesn't require a huge farm to produce and is stable for a lot longer than a couple liters of milk. I take 1000-3000 IUs with dinner at night a couple times a week and sleep like the dead.
• botencat 3y ago
  "I started eating [Y that has a lot of stuff in it, including X] -> started feeling better -> Y must be good for you"
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• jawerty 3y ago
  Can't agree more once I started prioritizing Vitamin D in my diet and getting hours of sun if possible it's like a 180 with mental health. Eggs are a great source as well.
• m00dy 3y ago
  can't really tolerate lactose, can't even digest it literally. Any alternatives for that ? currently living in northen-europe.
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  • puttycat 3y ago
    Vitamin D pills.
  • ojosilva 3y ago
    Look for lactose-free milk, typically color-coded in purple tones.
  • limograf 3y ago
    You can charge up mushrooms with vitamin D (D2) by placing them in direct sunlight for 30 minutes. Any ordinary mushrooms. So salmon (D3) and charged mushrooms would do just as well.
  • nuxi 3y ago
    If you're not vegetarian you can try cod liver oil, e.g: https://www.norwegianpharma.com/our-products/norsk-tran https://www.norwegianpharma.com/our-products/norsk-tran https://www.mollers.com/product/mollers-tran/ https://www.mollers.com/product/mollers-tran/
  • RadixDLT 3y ago
    A2 milk
• BossingAround 3y ago
  Milk consumption is pretty horrible for the environment (and I'm not even mentioning what happens to animals on milk farms). I say that as a (full-of-shame) milk drinker, but recommending milk because of vitamin D is pretty ridiculous to me. There are so many vitamin D pills that are much cheaper than milk, and much better for the environment while having the same function.
  • armatav 3y ago
    Environment won’t care, drink milk
  • _zoltan_ 3y ago
    I drink milk from my local farm, and they sell their beer. Win win.
  • Gareth321 3y ago
    Medicine, computers, and building materials for EVs and well insulated homes are also "horrible" for the environment. We gladly make that sacrifice because we're happy with the trade. I understand you aren't, and that's fine. It should also be noted that not all dairy production is equal. New Zealand, for example, produces milk with a much lower carbon footprint (https://www.dairynz.co.nz/media/5794851/carbon-footprint-of-milk-production.png https://www.dairynz.co.nz/media/5794851/carbon-footprint-of-...). The formula isn't a secret. Grass fed cows produce less methane and CO2. There is also amazing research on reducing methane production by up to 98% by supplementing the diet of cows with seaweed (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/seaweed-alternative-could-cut-down-on-methane-from-cows#:~:text=Just%20counting%20the%201.5%20billion,emissions%2C%20according%20to%20one%20study https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/seaweed-a....). The point being, advocating for abstention is rarely a winning strategy. Instead we should use technology and policy to improve our production methods. Then we can save the environment and continue to enjoy products we consider to be important to our lifestyles. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
    • myshpa 3y ago
      > reducing methane production by up to 98% The burps are not everything. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23738600/un-fao-meat-dairy-livestock-emissions-methane-climate-change https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23738600/un-fao-meat-dair... "many peer-reviewed studies, ... put livestock emissions at between 14.5 percent and 19.6 percent of the world’s total" "... it doesn’t factor in the significant climate benefits we’d get if we freed up some of the land now dedicated to livestock farming and allowed forests to return, unlocking their potential as “carbon sinks” that absorb and sequester greenhouse gases from the air. Scientists call this the opportunity cost of animal agriculture’s land use. Because animal farming takes up so much land — nearly 40 percent of the planet’s habitable land area — that opportunity cost is massive ... "One study found that ending meat and dairy production could cancel out emissions from all other industries combined over the next 30 to 50 years." > we can save the environment and continue to enjoy products we consider to be important to our lifestyles No, we can't. Without Changing Diets, Agriculture Alone Could Produce Enough Emissions to Surpass 1.5°C of Global Warming (2018) https://www.wri.org/insights/without-changing-diets-agriculture-alone-could-produce-enough-emissions-surpass-15degc https://www.wri.org/insights/without-changing-diets-agricult... Agriculture production as a major driver of the Earth system exceeding planetary boundaries https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320356605_Agriculture_production_as_a_major_driver_of_the_Earth_system_exceeding_planetary_boundaries https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320356605_Agricultu... IPCC: Slashing Emissions From Meat Crucial to Climate Action https://sentientmedia.org/ipcc-report-food-system/ https://sentientmedia.org/ipcc-report-food-system/ Why the food system is the next frontier in climate action https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/04/why-the-food-system-is-the-next-frontier-in-climate-action/ https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/04/why-the-food-syst...
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• mjrpes 3y ago
  Did you take before/after blood tests to confirm you had low blood levels and that drinking milk helped? A cup of milk is roughly 150iu, while recommended supplements range from 600 to 2000iu. Also, lactose-free milk is common nowadays.
  • TACIXAT 3y ago
    I had taken one a long while ago in a checkup and my levels were abysmally low. That explained why I was miserable at the time. Supplemented for a bit and it was a stark turn around, but I fell out of the habit of doing it and forgot. I drink a half gallon a day easily.
• fnordpiglet 3y ago
  This is why, even though as a programmer I’m congenitally unfit for it, I go outside sometimes. Sunlight also gives you vitamin D, and has all sorts of other benefits. As I don’t go outside often I’m not particularly concerned about skin cancer and am generally skeptical of the idea that terrestrial life is maladapted to the Sun. I buy over exposure has bad long term effects, but the current view seems to be you need to wear sunblock for any level of exposure. That just seems wildly unlikely and the fact the body needs sunlight to produce essential stuff like vitamin D further reinforces my belief that we are over correcting into unhealthy zones.
  • Azure88 3y ago
    As a person not from america, the fact that this is the main view is worrying to me. Over here in the UK it's 100% normal to just use the rule of thumb that as long as you try not to get burnt, it's healthy to get some sun. No sunblock needed unless you know you'll be out in it for many hours without shade like if you go to the beach or a long walk.
    • fnordpiglet 3y ago
      The dermatologist cartel in the US advices zero unprotected sun exposure. There’s evidence this is a contributor to high cholesterol levels in the US.
      • borski 3y ago
        Ah yes, the “dermatologist cartel” of untrustworthy white coats. rolls eyes Please provide sources for the evidence you speak of.
        • toolz 3y ago
          It's really not a hard thing to google. > Sunscreen also blocks our skin from making vitamin D, but that’s OK, says the American Academy of Dermatology, which takes a zero-tolerance stance[1] on sun exposure: “You need to protect your skin from the sun every day, even when it’s cloudy,” it advises on its website. Better to slather on sunblock, we’ve all been told, and compensate with vitamin D pills. -- https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science/ https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/sunscreen-sun-... 1: https://www.aad.org/media/stats-vitamin-d https://www.aad.org/media/stats-vitamin-d
• opportune 3y ago
  Even better, eat fatty fish! This may sound weird but adding consistent sardines/herring/mackerel/salmon to your diet can be life changing. They are nutrient powerhouses, they’re the best dietary sources of both vitamin D and DHA/EPA fatty acids. Of course, they’re also good sources of protein. Most people I’ve mentioned this to will say something like “but they’re so fishy” or think that sardines are disgusting cat food. At least for canned sardines, what a lot of people don’t know is that there is a wide range of quality in both the packing and actual fish - fishy odors are from a chemical TMAO that is a byproduct of decomposition and anecdotally is more common in the cheap brands. There are brands like Matiz and Nuri that have much higher quality sardines; they’re also physically much larger than what you might think sardines are supposed to look like, with only 3 or so fish per tin. I also like this new brand Minna for a slightly cheaper option.
  • red-iron-pine 3y ago
    mmmmm heavy metals and microplastics
    • opportune 3y ago
      Small fish like sardines have very low amounts of heavy metals to the point it’s negligible. I couldn’t confidently tell you anything about microplastics though https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/are-sardines-healthy-and-safe-to-eat/sardines/ https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/are-sardines-healthy-and...
• News-Dog 3y ago
  Unsweetened and Unflavored Pot-set 'Greek Style' Yogurt before bedtime is my preference : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt >* European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) determined that lactose intolerance can be alleviated, by ingesting live yogurt cultures (lactobacilli) that are able to digest the lactose in other dairy products.*