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ChatGPT app for iOS

675 points by rememberlenny 3y ago

amagasaki 3y ago
Not available in Germany. That’s a pity.
prjed 3y ago
Tried this for few minutes, and it makes my phone run hot. Whats the CPU/GPu intensive work this app is doing on the device? I thought all the queries are sent to the server and no on device processing.
- spudlyo 3y ago
  It's using whisper to do speech to text, which is a non-trivial amount of on device processing. At least that's why I think it's heating up my phone, because that was the first thing I wanted to try.
  - prjed 3y ago
    I haven’t tried speech to text earlier. To me with or without speech to text, my device heats up
  - aledalgrande 3y ago
    Yeah I think these new models are going to burn through your battery like dried leaves, even if you have the very latest phones. I ran a reduced Vicuna on my 14 Pro and it heated up very quickly.
- ingenieroariel 3y ago
  Same, I tried Whisper and received a call right after and it was unusually hot.
tanepiper 3y ago
Don't Panic
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minimaxir 3y ago
This release is more relevant as there have been very many fake ChatGPT apps that leveraged OpenAI's branding. Case in point, the App Store release app subtitle is "The official app by OpenAI"
- tristanb 3y ago
  its basically impossible to find via app store search.
  - pb7 3y ago
    It takes some time to index.
  - notsrg 3y ago
    also had the same issue. Figured after the first page it would probably show up but I scrolled multiple pages and still nothing.
    - elboru 3y ago
      There’s a direct link on the article. It’s not available in my country though. Or at least that’s the error message I got. Update: “We're starting our rollout in the US and will expand to additional countries in the coming weeks”
  - dag11 3y ago
    Yeah. I saw this announcement, and searched both "chatgpt" and "open ai" (sic, as auto-suggested) in the App Store and gave up scrolling looking for it. The unofficial app logos look waaaay closer to the ChatGPT logo than the official white logo does, and the SEO (ASO?) seems poor. Not sure what either party can do about it though, but it's a disappointing situation.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
      Isn’t this what the Apple 30% tax is supposed to help pay for and facilitate? If it doesn’t solve this problem, what is its purpose and value?
gothep 3y ago
now that's what I call haptic feedback
- s3p 3y ago
  Yes!!!! What a nice touch from the devs.
- superbiome 3y ago
  Seems a bit unnecessary
callumw13 3y ago
Why not available in the UK?
- t1mmen 3y ago
  Unavailable in Canada, too :/
- ttul 3y ago
  Probably for regulatory reasons. They will eventually release it in all the app stores, but OpenAI has a lot of lawyers and they are very cautious.
rohitpaulk 3y ago
Only available in the US at the moment.
- exitb 3y ago
  I wonder what’s the reasoning behind limiting availability of an app for a product that’s already widely available.
  - lstamour 3y ago
    Legal, translation and limiting demand to a reasonable level with rolling release to other markets in future? That said, I also find it somewhat unfair, as likely does anyone not in the US :)
- unshavedyak 3y ago
  Also seems not to have Browsing / Plugins, as far as i can figure out at least
sharemywin 3y ago
Wonder what permissions it wants
- heliophobicdude 3y ago
  None so far! It hasn't even asked for my clipboard access.
- slantedview 3y ago
  So far just microphone access if you want to use voice to search.
- crakenzak 3y ago
  None
jd24 3y ago
Jeez, the app is impossible to find among all the fakes. I had to go to openai's website and use the link there.
- s3p 3y ago
  Same. I'm sure it will show up on search in a day or do.
- tailspin2019 3y ago
  The blatant OpenAI brand infringement in all the non-official apps is extremely frustrating. It just further weakens Apple’s arguments for their locked down store and app review process. How does anyone (outside HN perhaps) have any hope of finding the official one? And what are we (Apple users) paying our “Apple tax” for when the app store quality control processes have sunk so low?
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  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
    > And what are we (Apple users) paying our “Apple tax” for when the app store quality control processes have sunk so low? Lack of competition. If Android counts as competition then switch to Android.
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  - rvz 3y ago
    > How does anyone (outside HN perhaps) have any hope of finding the official one? Easy. Out of all the ChatGPT wrapper clones on the App Store, Apple will promote OpenAI's app first, and remove the fakes if they wanted to. Only a selected few 'approved' competitor AI chatbot apps on the App Store will be still around. This just shows that almost none of these AI chatbot apps have a moat and can be easily wiped out with a push of a red button, even if they are using the GPT-4 API.
rvz 3y ago
> This official app is free (no ads!), syncs your history across devices, and brings you the newest model improvements from OpenAI. It now looks like the short term ChatGPT copycat grifter apps on the App Store are now going to start packing their bags now. If they don't, Apple will do it for them. Expect this one to take over the app store and remain the top 10 apps for a very long time.
vachina 3y ago
Or use Poe, which also offers GPT-4 at the same price as a ChatGPT sub.
- s3p 3y ago
  Poe offers fewer GPT4 messages than OpenAI for the same price. Just wanted to add that context.
- oidar 3y ago
  Poe offers a comparatively smaller quantity of GPT-4 responses in comparison to a subscription to OpenAI's ChatGPT. The limitations of Poe result in a maximum allowance of 1090 responses per month, calculated by combining 3 response per day each with an additional 1000 responses. Conversely, an OpenAI ChatGPT subscription provides approximately 2250 responses. This estimation assumes the utilization of 75 GPT-4 responses per day, divided into three separate sessions of 25 responses each. It is possible to attain additional responses by initiating inquiries beyond the nine-hour window in the prior calculation. Poe necessitates a yearly commitment. As a consequence, if the costs of GPT-4 decrease significantly or a more advanced model becomes available, there is a potential risk of paying for Poe and not using it. Poe does offer access to Claude base model and limited access to the more advanced Claude models.
atlasunshrugged 3y ago
Wow, just tried to search organically and there are an awful lot of existing apps already spun up to give you access to ChatGPT. I wonder if Apple will help them be prioritized in the rankings or if they'll be pushed into spending ad dollars to appear at the top of the search.
- s3p 3y ago
  It's been out for less than 24 hours so I don't think Apple's App Store search index has had time to update the rankings. Give it a few days and I'll bet it becomes the number 1 result.
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ramesh31 3y ago
"This app requires iOS 16.1 or later" Pure laziness.
- Kon-Peki 3y ago
  A brand-new project in Xcode doesn't require iOS 16. You actually have to make use of OS features only available in 16+ to get your app limited like this. And beside, 5-year old iPhones support iOS 16; it's not too unreasonable to make use of these features.
- s3p 3y ago
  Huh?
reaperducer 3y ago
Its privacy report card is not great.
- s3p 3y ago
  It's not too bad. Notice how there's no section for "Data used to track you", only "Data linked to you"? They're not actively tracking users.
chachra 3y ago
NOT loving the excessive vibrations on the phone. It increases my anxiety somehow... I'd remove it honestly or make it 10% of what it is in certain cases only. I might be alone in this, but we've been trained for vibrations to mean something. Vibrating the phone on every line or response from ChatGPT seems excessive to me (and a battery drain as well!).
- agnokapathetic 3y ago
  You can turn off the "Haptic Feedback" in the app's settings
  - ksd482 3y ago
    Yes, and you should. I also have turned off vibrations for everything but phone calls, calendar events and reminders. Everything else has “Sounds” as off which turns off vibrations as well.
- evv 3y ago
  Yeah this is highly excessive and irregular use of haptics. I expect they will turn that off by default within a week. I turned off haptics immediately in settings, but most people will be complaining before they figure that out. It is annoying enough the way that ChatGPT drips out results, but now it acts as a low-quality hand massager and battery drain too? Not ideal, but the product is still very good and people will happily use it, regardless of these "extra features"
basisword 3y ago
US only. Great. Typical.
- betaby 3y ago
  Why it's a problem? EU should offer ChatGDPR as an alternative.
  - _justinfunk 3y ago
    ChatGDPR is funny tho.
    - below43 3y ago
      ChatGDPR: Thank you for your question. However, as a GDPR compliant chat bot, I must inform you that tracking user data for targeted advertising purposes requires collecting personal information and may infringe upon user privacy rights. I cannot provide guidance on implementing such functionality without explicit user consent.
golergka 3y ago
Just this week, GPT-4 helped me: * Find new artists to listen that combine techno with psytrance * Navigate a tricky personal communication situation * Debug a LOT of different issues * Write new code in a language I'm not really familiar with * Explore political ideas through simulated debate * Search current visa requirements * Find answers to some random history questions * Calculate whether my tent would be blown of a mountain cliff or not * Adjust a recipe to my taste, amount of servings and available ingridients * Name some very abstract variables * Remember a name of historical figure Sure, I could do most of these just with Google, but it would take me a lot more time. Sometimes 2, sometimes 10 times more. Can't wait when this app will be available in my region.
- Agree2468 3y ago
  > Name some very abstract variables Curious what you mean by this?
  - golergka 3y ago
    Unfortunately, I can't answer this question without breaking my NDA
    - layer8 3y ago
      Didn’t you already break your NDA by having ChatGPT name your variables?
      - tough 3y ago
        NDA didn't say no talking to LLMs
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  Mobile web works. I don't know if their signups block non-US phone numbers (they require a phone number for surveillance, er, security purposes).
jmacd 3y ago
This app appears to be region locked. Not available in Canada.
lame-robot-hoax 3y ago
I have access to plugins, browsing, etc. through the website but not through the app. Hopefully they bring that over soon.
unethical_ban 3y ago
Didn't they bring it to iOS with https://chat.openai.com https://chat.openai.com ? Normalize people using the web. And FirefoxAndroid... don't refresh an idle tab unless I tell you to!
- nozzlegear 3y ago
  One problem I have with their website is that it constantly signs me out. It’s why I ended up downloading an app (GeePeeTee had the best privacy policy I could find) to use their service personally.
  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    A valid complaint, though that isn't a lack of capability in the browser, it's a big of the site. I think that happened to me a while back, but I haven't had a problem with it in weeks.
    - nozzlegear 3y ago
      Don't get me wrong, I'm someone who prefers a browser over apps as well. I'll have to give their website a try again, maybe it's not an issue any longer.
sidcool 3y ago
They are rolling out software at breathtaking pace!
crakenzak 3y ago
I really like how it has the open ai whisper speech-to-text model built in so you can use your voice to talk to the model.
theusus 3y ago
Not for iPad :(
fuomag9 3y ago
Not available in Italy lol
- wkat4242 3y ago
  That's already been reverted. https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-is-available-again-users-italy-spokesperson-says-2023-04-28/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-is-available-agai... Edit: Oh ok you mean the app, I thought you meant ChatGPT in general because Italy banned it for a bit. I think it will come soon, when I had an app in the store and I added a country it also didn't appear straight away.
can16358p 3y ago
Unavailable in my region? Seriously?
Flatcircle 3y ago
Couldn't find it searching the App Store, had to go onto safari, go to OpenAi's website and then click the link which re-directed me to the App Store
- valine 3y ago
  That’s typical for most new apps. It takes apple a day or two to index everything.
theonemind 3y ago
What does this add over opening chat.openai.com in Safari? It seems like I could perhaps browse conversation history offline (but I can't tell for sure), and voice dictation. I've just used it in Safari with no problems, so I want to know if any compelling reasons exist to use the app. I'd guess it includes additional tracking enabled by an app and other undesirable aspects of an app.
- trts 3y ago
  If all it does is avoid making me re-authenticate several times a week that alone is worth the install for me.
- m3kw9 3y ago
  Better ui experience: snapper, could use many UI/background features from the sdk that isn’t available from the web app.
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- sherbondy 3y ago
  Now they can start to compete more directly with things like Siri and soon Google’s Assistant on somewhat more equal footing, though neither OS provides quite the hooks for third party apps to directly subvert them, though maybe this will change with some of the more extreme antitrust provisions in motion in the European Union.
- jeffgreco 3y ago
  It’s actually less functional than the web interface — plugins and web browsing features are unavailable. But it does do a LOT of haptic.
  - blueberrychpstx 3y ago
    Haptic can be turned off via settings
  - ianmcgowan 3y ago
valine 3y ago
Works really well. I'm happy to have an official app. I've never been entirely comfortable with passing my chats through a third party, I prefer to keep the number of people eavesdropping on me to a minimum. Here's to hoping it doesn't log you out constantly like the web app.
motyar 3y ago
- Couldn't find it searching the App Store. - Go to OpenAi's website and then click the link which re-directed me to the App Store - Not available in your country!
- Msurrow 3y ago
  Gradual rollout.
disjunct 3y ago
So this is why they changed the model dropdown to buttons, more touch friendly.
- awestroke 3y ago
  Also much better in every way
nobrains 3y ago
UAE: This app is currently not available in your country or region.
- berot3000 3y ago
  Same for EU?
aaroninsf 3y ago
My experience: - literally impossible to find on the App store, even when searched for by its exact name caps and all; only able to get it by navigating from OpenAI page - weekend-project level UX - no access to my Beta plugins or browsing My conclusion: This is a placeholder, not a product.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  > literally impossible to find on the App store If you can't find it by the title, that's an App Store issue, not a product issue.
- ZeroCool2u 3y ago
  In new chats yes, you can't use plugins, but you can create a new minimal chat on desktop with plugins, code interpreter, or browser and it seems to work fine when you open that convo in the app history.
eclectic29 3y ago
"This app requires iOS 16.1 or later".
wejick 3y ago
Waiting the android one, will love it. Btw is there anyway to export or do quick copy paste over long conversation? Seems like not possible to easily scroll and select the whole convo.
- blueberrychpstx 3y ago
  Yep! There is an export button that allegedly will export all and send to your email.
- int_19h 3y ago
  Not sure if it's in the app, but on their website, if you go to Settings -> Data Control, there's a button to export all your conversations.
voisin 3y ago
Wish this was available in Canada. Super pumped to have easier mobile access than the website.
cheshire137 3y ago
I wonder if they’ll release an iPad app too, I’d appreciate that.
joewhale 3y ago
I misclicked a birthday year that’s too recent and no matter what, I’m no longer able to login with any method now. Sad.
- Mistletoe 3y ago
  My experience too. It had one of those idiotic calendars you have to scroll back painfully so I said F it ok today is my birthday. Then it locked me out and said they can't serve me. Tried to log in with another email and it still wouldn't let me. I uninstalled the app and thus my introduction to the world of AI on my phone was complete.
paulvs 3y ago
It's not available on the Paraguayan App Store yet. The same thing happened with ChatGPT itself, it wasn't available in Paraguay for a couple of months and no explanation as to why. I get that it's a free research preview and they don't have to, but it would be nice if I could get these things when most others do. I can switch stores but would need to cancel subscriptions.
- circuit10 3y ago
  I think it's only in the US at the moment
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NikolaNovak 3y ago
I clicked on the link on my PC. Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI") I opened App Store on my iPhone and typed the name of the app, verbatim. The official/correct app was not in the first 20 entries (which is as far as I was willing to scroll). Which, to me: 1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and is probably easier 2. Doesn't actually seem to solve the problem 3. Puts to shame all the touted benefits of a "walled garden/closed ecosystem".
- psychphysic 3y ago
  They are fighting an uphill battle against a never ending wave of products that are often well meaning but named too similarly too. Not that HN wants to admit it when gpt4all gpt4free etc comes up
  - gtirloni 3y ago
    Is "GPT" a registered trademark in the AI space?
    - nailer 3y ago
      They did apply for one IIRC. Which is silly, but people apply to trademark all kinds of generic terms.
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- pmuk 3y ago
  Are you outside the US? I got the same results, but then realised it's only available in the US at the moment.
  - NameError 3y ago
    I am in the US and had the same issue - ended up installing it by finding the announcement post and clicking through from there.
noelbautista91 3y ago
>The ChatGPT app is free to use and syncs your history across devices Chat history on the mobile app took a while to sync. In the time it synced, I asked ChatGPT is history is synced across devices. It said: (paraphrasing) "History is separate from the app and desktop, due to privacy considerations and the way the system was designed" I see my history now after 5 minutes of waiting on the app
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  For future reference, any information ChatGPT has "about itself" (as you seem to have asked) would have to be hard-coded into its context. Usually, it's a safe bet that if you ask it questions like that - it's going to come up with some handwavey nonsense that sounds like the "privacy-preserving" approach. Or in short, ChatGPT doesn't have any clue about the details of the various frontends used to serve it.
dharma1 3y ago
US only :/
notShabu 3y ago
Using "Add to Home Screen" for the chat.openai.com URL actually is better for now IMO. It has more features like selecting GPT-4 sub-models with browsing, plugins, etc... Kudos to the responsive CSS
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  > It has more features like selecting GPT-4 sub-models with browsing, plugins, etc... Well yeah, if you have early access to those features. Most do not.
  - stevanl 3y ago
    FYI they're now available for everyone. Just need to enable them in ChatGPT settings.
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armatav 3y ago
Does it use Whisper for transcription? (also transcription API call is bugged AF right now)
- blueberrychpstx 3y ago
  I wouldn't see why it wouldn't use Whisper. I just wish they could have gotten whisper.cpp working for live transcription on device. But you can also turn on Voice Control and type with your voice without using Open AI - iOS dictation is getting better but not quite on par with Whisper by any stretch.
armatav 3y ago
The people complaining that you can’t find it by searching verbatim: this is always the case for the first 1-2 days with an iOS app launch.
- ccooffee 3y ago
  The problem also occurs when searching for any low-ranking results in the iOS store, regardless of getting the exact name correct. A friend released a crossword game, and when searching the exact name of the app, it still comes up as the seventh result behind one ad and five other (much more popular) crossword apps with different names.
- swyx 3y ago
  but this is openai we are talking about, you'd think apple would fast track them towards ranking higher at least to not make apple look terrible
  - armatav 3y ago
    I really do think it's just that some index/ranking doesn't get updated for about 24-48 hours - it always seemed to me to be a system issue. Plus, OpenAI has the link on their site, which will bolster the couple days initial release traffic.
- detrites 3y ago
  Why doesn't Apple fix this? It seems like no matter how their backend architecture works, they could surely find a way even just to manually whitelist new big name apps from well-known companies to the top of search results. Why wouldn't they do that? It's only bad for everyone that instead there's this total shitshow litany of garbage presented to the user instead. It's bad for customers, bad for the app suppliers, and bad for Apple themselves. Totally bizarre.
ericskiff 3y ago
I was excited to try this because I want to be able to use ChatGPT hands-free in certain circumstances. The ideal would be to put it into voice assistant mode, have it listen to me and then answer after a sufficient break in speech. From what I can see, this app lags behind their web interface a bit, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had some approval trouble at Apple and will be rolling out updates more frequently now that the official app is out the door. As it stands, the voice transcription feature returns an API error and it doesn't seem to have any option to read the response to you with text to speech. I'm hopeful to see what updates they roll out in the coming weeks
- spullara 3y ago
  There are some great Siri shortcuts that work with the OpenAI API. Edit: I am using this one https://github.com/Yue-Yang/ChatGPT-Siri https://github.com/Yue-Yang/ChatGPT-Siri
  - ShamelessC 3y ago
    Do go on - I'd love something like this.
    - swyx 3y ago
      yes please, i feel like i am dreadfully underusing iOS Workflows and Siri, and need more inspiration to integrate it into my life
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oluwie 3y ago
Bye bye Google.
- kernal 3y ago
  More like bye bye ChatGPT knock-offs.
aloer 3y ago
For people outside the US: use a second apple account with Region set to US. I have used this many times for country specific public transport or delivery apps but same thing works here. You do not lose access to other apps, sync features or subscriptions. Go into the App Store app, not your phone settings, click your profile and scroll all the way down to log out. Then log in with a US account, download the app and switch again. You can continue using the US only apps after switching back
- gnrlst 3y ago
  do updates work if i switch back to my original account?
  - aloer 3y ago
    Good point. That doesn’t work, need to log in with the US account first. Or remain logged in. Works fine for me though. I have barely any apps that need updating
  - lstamour 3y ago
    Yes they work but you will be prompted to sign in with the account that bought the app by entering its password. Auto-updates sometimes work but only if you’ve entered the password for the account recently. Some work was done around iOS … 14 maybe? to try and improve this experience, but iOS is still not fully multi-account. And strange things sometimes happen to DRM content, in-app purchases and music libraries.
- drclau 3y ago
  How can you create a US account? Don't they ask for a credit/debit card and/or phone number?
  - jimstr 3y ago
    I bought a $20 US gift card on ebay and redeemed that into a new US account
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alphabetting 3y ago
I wonder how Microsoft and the Bing team feel about this.
- unnouinceput 3y ago
  Considering this is Microsoft's baby, I think they feel quite good about this getting to front of HN.
syntaxing 3y ago
Is the GPT-4 access still limited to 25 messages every 3 hours for iOS?
- elashri 3y ago
  While it doesn't specify on the app that the limit is 25 messages every 3 hours. It mentions that GPT-4 access is limited and usage caps are reset regularly, but doesn't specify how much.
neom 3y ago
Gonna be cool when I can take a photo with this and ask CGPT what's in the photo/translate/how to repair/etc.
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CSMastermind 3y ago
Is there an iOS SDK to leverage their APIs? Seems like they'd need one to build this app so it would be nice for them to release it to the broader dev community.
- zwily 3y ago
  The OpenAI APIs are pretty easily accessible over HTTP. Not sure what an iOS SDK would bring to the table.
rvalue 3y ago
Is it prepared to handle markets like India and China?
extr 3y ago
GPT-4 works great, super impressive, but I am significantly less impressed by OpenAI as a business. I'm still locked out of creating a work account because I used up the two accounts-per-phone number limit that they have hardcoded (with no way to free up one of those slots by deleting an account) and can't create a new account. Dozens of posts on their support forum about the same thing, basically impossible to get any kind of human support from them to resolve it.
- johnmcd3 3y ago
  Had the same experience. The solution is just to use a family member's phone number. The phone number isn't ever used again and is just used to limit automated signups as far as I can tell.
- furyofantares 3y ago
  I had the same issue; I did delete one of the accounts and -- still the same issue.
jonkiddy 3y ago
I recently read a news article that Sam Altman is attending the Bilderberg Meeting [0]. The timing is perfect. [0] https://bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2023/participants-2023#:~:text=Altman%2C%20Sam https://bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2023/partici...
drewda 3y ago
> P.S. Android users, you're next! ChatGPT will be coming to your devices soon. I'm getting a good chuckle out of this. The thought-leaders have been warning us that large language models will put 99% of professionals out of work and will threaten the nature of human existence... and yet today's leading LLM apparently can't be used to generate code for a boilerplate user interface using the Android SDK.
- make3 3y ago
  Ridiculous take on multiple fronts, man. -> The thing was released like two months ago, think what LLMs will do in like 10 years. -> They likely want an industrial scale indestructible app for their multi-million $ product, they can take at least three months to build it.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Considering they have hundreds of employees who are literally experts in using GPT-4, including evaluating it's code output, I think it's fair to expect they could produce an 'industrial scale indestructible' android app simultaneously with the iOS app. Especially considering GPT-4 was, allegedly, complete by August 2022. If it doesn't even enable 2x or 3x the output after a half year of familiarization then I think it's a lot harder to use for businesses then commonly suggested.
    - sebzim4500 3y ago
      How do you know it hasn't 3x their output? For all we know this app was written by one guy while he was waiting for his code to compile.
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        Because then management would be very short sighted to not assign 2 more guys waiting for their code to compile to complete the android app simultaneously.
runjake 3y ago
The top search results for "openai chatgpt" are all fakes/scamware. Be sure you use the official link from the linked page.
furyofantares 3y ago
Seems noticeably faster text generation on iOS than on the web, not sure if I'm imagining it?
wkat4242 3y ago
I'd be worried downloading it because there's so many fake spyware ChatGPT apps in the store. But I have Android anyway.. Hopefully that will come too!
- qumpis 3y ago
  What does spyware mean in this context? Some phishing-like cover websites prompting users to input their credentials of openai? Apart from that, I thought Apple handled permission handling well?
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    I don't know exactly, I have not come across any myself. But I heard it's a thing (probably read about it here): https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chatgpt-is-now-being-used-by-hackers-to-spread-dangerous-malware-dont-fall-for-this https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chatgpt-is-now-being-used-by-...
BugsJustFindMe 3y ago
Why is this an app? What does it enable that the website can't?
- tempestn 3y ago
  Apps can open faster than a webpage, for one thing, which is convenient for a tool you're using all the time. (I say this as someone who resisted making an app for AutoTempest for years based on the same logic, but finally caved to the fact that a lot of people just prefer them. Something I'm now coming to understand as I wait eagerly for a ChatGPT app...)
unicornmama 3y ago
Not available for my region. Sad.
jonplackett 3y ago
Says not available in my region (UK)?
olgeni 3y ago
"Not available in your country", as usual.
hedora 3y ago
So, does this run on iOS, or is it a wrapper of some privacy invading cloud thing? It says it syncs between devices. Is it E2E sync, which is kind of table-stakes for the iOS ecosystem at this point?
- danielrhodes 3y ago
  What does E2E sync mean here? They already know what you wrote because you submitted it to them, similar to a Google search.
  - hedora 3y ago
    Oh, so it's still a cloud thing. Quaint. :-) I wasn't sure, since people are complaining that it makes their phones hot, and it's only a matter of time before this stuff runs locally. I guess that answers my question, though.
    - furyofantares 3y ago
      It's mostly odd that you called ChatGPT "some privacy invading cloud thing"
    - qumpis 3y ago
      Can someone chime in if local runtimes are likely to come soon? Can 10B params or so contain all the compressed contents of the internet?
- woodrowbarlow 3y ago
  gpt only exists in the cloud. openai has not released the model weights publicly. llama is the closest thing that you can run yourself.
puma_ambit 3y ago
Thank you to the team there that worked on getting this out. I'm very excited to use it!
jkkorn 3y ago
I was a little upset I had to scroll through and endless series of "OpenAI" apps, but then I realized they locked the app to the US Appstore only. Pity
BulgarianIdiot 3y ago
"App Not Available The app is currently not available in your country or region" FFS, I'm a ChatGPT Plus subscriber, but I can't get the app. Why would they even restrict this?
nojvek 3y ago
Yeah can't find app on appstore even by searching. All the top ones are not by OpenAI.
tagyro 3y ago
Funnily enough I've been in contact with the Apple Support Team complaining about the scam "GPT" apps. Their reply, verbatim: "We take reports of fraudulent behavior very seriously. Please provide the following so we can investigate the situation: Steps to reproduce the behavior: Screenshots of the behavior on the iTunes Store or App Store: Names and links to the Apps: After we receive this information, our team will investigate your concern." Am I supposed to provide unpaid work for a $2 trillion company? Also, worth mentioning the "tracking" of the "official" app: The following data may be collected and linked to your identity: Contact Info Identifiers Diagnostics User Content Usage Data Thanks, but no thanks! Disclosure: I developed an iOS app that uses the OpenAI API, but somehow managed to not include any tracking. AKME is free and doesn't include any tracking. The app supports a BYOK (Bring Your Own Key) model, as well as buying in-app tokens https://apps.apple.com/app/akme-ai-knowledge/id6446436196 https://apps.apple.com/app/akme-ai-knowledge/id6446436196
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  Are they scam apps, though? If they use any GPT model or API they're real apps. Just because OpenAI didn't make an app first doesn't mean they're the only ones that can create apps for interfacing with GPT networks.
  - tagyro 3y ago
    Here is a thorough analysis by Alex Kleber - https://privacyis1st.medium.com/the-dark-side-of-the-mac-app-store-how-scam-apps-and-shady-developers-are-preying-on-users-b28062642e6 https://privacyis1st.medium.com/the-dark-side-of-the-mac-app... Yes, there are multiple scam apps
    - Gunnerhead 3y ago
      I read the article, basically there are multiple duplicate apps that do the same thing but with slightly different UI from the same developer. These apps implement UX that violates Apple’s design guidelines. Surprisingly, the reviews are not fake just users are often asked to review the app. I fail to see the scam portion of it? The app seems to deliver what it promised using the GPT API.
quux 3y ago
Digging the use of haptics across this app.
FranklinMaillot 3y ago
I've been using the Bing app for my mobile AI needs. It works on Android, has voice input and is allegedly powered by GPT4.
- codethief 3y ago
  Thanks, I've been looking for an "official" GPT app for Android for ages! Minor annoyances after trying it out for a few minutes: 1) The app requires you to sign up for conversations longer than 5 exchanges. 2) It disables my keyboard's word suggestions and instead forces its own – English – word suggestions upon me, making it very hard to write in e.g. Spanish. 3) Even typing in English is weirdly difficult – there is some lag and no autocorrection. 4) The text-to-speech and speech-to-text algorithm only supports English. But hey, better than nothing.
  - FranklinMaillot 3y ago
    Strange, I don't experience the issues you describe. I can type like in any other app, with keyboard suggestions, even in French.
    - codethief 3y ago
      Weird. Notably, I'm seeing similar (even worse) issues when I use the chat on Bing.com with Firefox (using User Agent Switcher): I can barely type – the JS always overrides ("corrects") my input.
superbiome 3y ago
Unfortunately no beta internet plug-in access in iOS app even when I have it through their website.
jwr 3y ago
"This app is not available in your country or region" Seriously? When is this idiotic corporate idea going to die? Internet has no regions. (BTW, I pay for ChatGPT plus)
- yosito 3y ago
  Unfortunately, the internet is getting more and more balkanized. What people see in one country is becoming completely different from what people see in another country, and often things are completely inaccessible between countries. Not to mention that even within countries it's becoming impossible to see the same things as someone else.
  - nickybuzz 3y ago
    Wow, TIL "balkanize" is a word. I love that!
  - jwr 3y ago
    I thought this idiocy would end with the failure of DVD Regions (remember those?), a lesson would be learned and we would all move on. But now I see this kind of crap from companies pretending to be at the forefront of technology and it has me not just frustrated, but worried. Do people at OpenAI realize how much bad will this kind of segregation causes? Because make no mistake, this is segregation: you divide your users into "better" ones and "worse" ones.
- dog321 3y ago
  The internet most definitely has 'regions' when it comes to laws and resulting potential liability.
- nickpp 3y ago
  Google’s Bard is not available in the EU, afaik.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    They even made it unavailable in Europe full stop, except for the UK, where it was available from the start. Switzerland, Turkey, Norway etc. These countries don't even have GDPR, which is an EU law.
aledalgrande 3y ago
Assume this won't work with custom API keys?
stavros 3y ago
I spent an hour writing a small Signal bot, and I've had ChatGPT on my phone for ages. The experience is the best out of any client I've used, as it's just a chat. I prefer it over a full fledged app.
- ZeroCool2u 3y ago
  This is actually quite appealing to me. Do you mind if I ask what if any framework you used to do this?
  - stavros 3y ago
    I used signald, pysignald, and ChatGPT-bot: https://pypi.org/project/chatgpt-bot/ https://pypi.org/project/chatgpt-bot/ I can probably publish the code somewhere, if you're interested.
    - ZeroCool2u 3y ago
      Thank you so much for the reply! Yes, no pressure, but if you feel like it, that would be great :)
      - stavros 3y ago
        Here it is: https://www.pastery.net/ymxvaf/ https://www.pastery.net/ymxvaf/
        ZeroCool2u 3y ago
        Thank you!
kernal 3y ago
What a cesspool the AppStore is. It's awash in ChatGPT backend clients that are either subscription based and/or use dark patterns.
satyarohith 3y ago
App not available in India yet.
jshchnz 3y ago
For all those curious about what is in the ChatGPT iOS app, this thread does a deep dive: https://twitter.com/emergetools/status/1659283367710322702 https://twitter.com/emergetools/status/1659283367710322702
NoFace350 3y ago
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riemannzeta 3y ago
Sigh. Another iOS only launch.
n_ary 3y ago
Sadly, more and more, releases these days means U.S. only. Here in Germany, App store tells me, not available in your region or country. That been said, Bing-App is pretty good so far, waiting to look at openAI one. Far too many fake ones masquerading as chatGPT apps and it is really painful to see my friends paying for some of these fake ones to remove adverts and trying to figure out how to make it do things.
teekert 3y ago
Not available in my country sadly (the Netherlands).
nikolay 3y ago
Again, the notorious iOS-first... It's 2023 and releasing multi-platform fully-feature apps is easy!
markuta 3y ago
The app appears to be region locked, at least from the UK.
holistio 3y ago
Anyone know of a reason why this isn't available on the UK app store?
yayr 3y ago
it seems to be not available in all countries yet. Can't find it in the German app store.
insomagent 3y ago
Not available in Taiwan... why?
coolandsmartrr 3y ago
Not available outside of US App Store? Not sure why they restrict by geography
outcoldman 3y ago
Unfortunately they disabled ability to install it on Apple silicon macOS :(
pcdoodle 3y ago
Everyone want their 30% cut.
marcopicentini 3y ago
It's not available for outside US.
oger 3y ago
Not available in several European markets...
jdthedisciple 3y ago
Why did it take them so long to the point where there are a million wrapper apps out there anyway?
kunalgupta 3y ago
Lmao literally can’t login, crashes every which way i try

675 points by rememberlenny 3y ago

Not available in Germany. That’s a pity.

Tried this for few minutes, and it makes my phone run hot. Whats the CPU/GPu intensive work this app is doing on the device? I thought all the queries are sent to the server and no on device processing.

spudlyo 3y ago
It's using whisper to do speech to text, which is a non-trivial amount of on device processing. At least that's why I think it's heating up my phone, because that was the first thing I wanted to try.
- prjed 3y ago
  I haven’t tried speech to text earlier. To me with or without speech to text, my device heats up
- aledalgrande 3y ago
  Yeah I think these new models are going to burn through your battery like dried leaves, even if you have the very latest phones. I ran a reduced Vicuna on my 14 Pro and it heated up very quickly.
ingenieroariel 3y ago
Same, I tried Whisper and received a call right after and it was unusually hot.

tanepiper 3y ago

Don't Panic

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minimaxir 3y ago

This release is more relevant as there have been very many fake ChatGPT apps that leveraged OpenAI's branding. Case in point, the App Store release app subtitle is "The official app by OpenAI"

tristanb 3y ago
its basically impossible to find via app store search.
- pb7 3y ago
  It takes some time to index.
- notsrg 3y ago
  also had the same issue. Figured after the first page it would probably show up but I scrolled multiple pages and still nothing.
  - elboru 3y ago
    There’s a direct link on the article. It’s not available in my country though. Or at least that’s the error message I got. Update: “We're starting our rollout in the US and will expand to additional countries in the coming weeks”
- dag11 3y ago
  Yeah. I saw this announcement, and searched both "chatgpt" and "open ai" (sic, as auto-suggested) in the App Store and gave up scrolling looking for it. The unofficial app logos look waaaay closer to the ChatGPT logo than the official white logo does, and the SEO (ASO?) seems poor. Not sure what either party can do about it though, but it's a disappointing situation.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
    Isn’t this what the Apple 30% tax is supposed to help pay for and facilitate? If it doesn’t solve this problem, what is its purpose and value?

gothep 3y ago

now that's what I call haptic feedback

s3p 3y ago
Yes!!!! What a nice touch from the devs.
superbiome 3y ago
Seems a bit unnecessary

callumw13 3y ago

Why not available in the UK?

t1mmen 3y ago
Unavailable in Canada, too :/
ttul 3y ago
Probably for regulatory reasons. They will eventually release it in all the app stores, but OpenAI has a lot of lawyers and they are very cautious.

rohitpaulk 3y ago

Only available in the US at the moment.

exitb 3y ago
I wonder what’s the reasoning behind limiting availability of an app for a product that’s already widely available.
- lstamour 3y ago
  Legal, translation and limiting demand to a reasonable level with rolling release to other markets in future? That said, I also find it somewhat unfair, as likely does anyone not in the US :)
unshavedyak 3y ago
Also seems not to have Browsing / Plugins, as far as i can figure out at least

sharemywin 3y ago

Wonder what permissions it wants

heliophobicdude 3y ago
None so far! It hasn't even asked for my clipboard access.
slantedview 3y ago
So far just microphone access if you want to use voice to search.
crakenzak 3y ago
None

jd24 3y ago

Jeez, the app is impossible to find among all the fakes. I had to go to openai's website and use the link there.

s3p 3y ago
Same. I'm sure it will show up on search in a day or do.
tailspin2019 3y ago
The blatant OpenAI brand infringement in all the non-official apps is extremely frustrating. It just further weakens Apple’s arguments for their locked down store and app review process. How does anyone (outside HN perhaps) have any hope of finding the official one? And what are we (Apple users) paying our “Apple tax” for when the app store quality control processes have sunk so low?
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
  > And what are we (Apple users) paying our “Apple tax” for when the app store quality control processes have sunk so low? Lack of competition. If Android counts as competition then switch to Android.
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- rvz 3y ago
  > How does anyone (outside HN perhaps) have any hope of finding the official one? Easy. Out of all the ChatGPT wrapper clones on the App Store, Apple will promote OpenAI's app first, and remove the fakes if they wanted to. Only a selected few 'approved' competitor AI chatbot apps on the App Store will be still around. This just shows that almost none of these AI chatbot apps have a moat and can be easily wiped out with a push of a red button, even if they are using the GPT-4 API.

rvz 3y ago

> This official app is free (no ads!), syncs your history across devices, and brings you the newest model improvements from OpenAI. It now looks like the short term ChatGPT copycat grifter apps on the App Store are now going to start packing their bags now. If they don't, Apple will do it for them. Expect this one to take over the app store and remain the top 10 apps for a very long time.

vachina 3y ago

Or use Poe, which also offers GPT-4 at the same price as a ChatGPT sub.

s3p 3y ago
Poe offers fewer GPT4 messages than OpenAI for the same price. Just wanted to add that context.
oidar 3y ago
Poe offers a comparatively smaller quantity of GPT-4 responses in comparison to a subscription to OpenAI's ChatGPT. The limitations of Poe result in a maximum allowance of 1090 responses per month, calculated by combining 3 response per day each with an additional 1000 responses. Conversely, an OpenAI ChatGPT subscription provides approximately 2250 responses. This estimation assumes the utilization of 75 GPT-4 responses per day, divided into three separate sessions of 25 responses each. It is possible to attain additional responses by initiating inquiries beyond the nine-hour window in the prior calculation. Poe necessitates a yearly commitment. As a consequence, if the costs of GPT-4 decrease significantly or a more advanced model becomes available, there is a potential risk of paying for Poe and not using it. Poe does offer access to Claude base model and limited access to the more advanced Claude models.

atlasunshrugged 3y ago

Wow, just tried to search organically and there are an awful lot of existing apps already spun up to give you access to ChatGPT. I wonder if Apple will help them be prioritized in the rankings or if they'll be pushed into spending ad dollars to appear at the top of the search.

s3p 3y ago
It's been out for less than 24 hours so I don't think Apple's App Store search index has had time to update the rankings. Give it a few days and I'll bet it becomes the number 1 result.

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ramesh31 3y ago

"This app requires iOS 16.1 or later" Pure laziness.

Kon-Peki 3y ago
A brand-new project in Xcode doesn't require iOS 16. You actually have to make use of OS features only available in 16+ to get your app limited like this. And beside, 5-year old iPhones support iOS 16; it's not too unreasonable to make use of these features.
s3p 3y ago
Huh?

reaperducer 3y ago

Its privacy report card is not great.

s3p 3y ago
It's not too bad. Notice how there's no section for "Data used to track you", only "Data linked to you"? They're not actively tracking users.

chachra 3y ago

NOT loving the excessive vibrations on the phone. It increases my anxiety somehow... I'd remove it honestly or make it 10% of what it is in certain cases only. I might be alone in this, but we've been trained for vibrations to mean something. Vibrating the phone on every line or response from ChatGPT seems excessive to me (and a battery drain as well!).

agnokapathetic 3y ago
You can turn off the "Haptic Feedback" in the app's settings
- ksd482 3y ago
  Yes, and you should. I also have turned off vibrations for everything but phone calls, calendar events and reminders. Everything else has “Sounds” as off which turns off vibrations as well.
evv 3y ago
Yeah this is highly excessive and irregular use of haptics. I expect they will turn that off by default within a week. I turned off haptics immediately in settings, but most people will be complaining before they figure that out. It is annoying enough the way that ChatGPT drips out results, but now it acts as a low-quality hand massager and battery drain too? Not ideal, but the product is still very good and people will happily use it, regardless of these "extra features"

basisword 3y ago

US only. Great. Typical.

betaby 3y ago
Why it's a problem? EU should offer ChatGDPR as an alternative.
- _justinfunk 3y ago
  ChatGDPR is funny tho.
  - below43 3y ago
    ChatGDPR: Thank you for your question. However, as a GDPR compliant chat bot, I must inform you that tracking user data for targeted advertising purposes requires collecting personal information and may infringe upon user privacy rights. I cannot provide guidance on implementing such functionality without explicit user consent.

golergka 3y ago

Just this week, GPT-4 helped me: * Find new artists to listen that combine techno with psytrance * Navigate a tricky personal communication situation * Debug a LOT of different issues * Write new code in a language I'm not really familiar with * Explore political ideas through simulated debate * Search current visa requirements * Find answers to some random history questions * Calculate whether my tent would be blown of a mountain cliff or not * Adjust a recipe to my taste, amount of servings and available ingridients * Name some very abstract variables * Remember a name of historical figure Sure, I could do most of these just with Google, but it would take me a lot more time. Sometimes 2, sometimes 10 times more. Can't wait when this app will be available in my region.

Agree2468 3y ago
> Name some very abstract variables Curious what you mean by this?
- golergka 3y ago
  Unfortunately, I can't answer this question without breaking my NDA
  - layer8 3y ago
    Didn’t you already break your NDA by having ChatGPT name your variables?
    - tough 3y ago
      NDA didn't say no talking to LLMs
unethical_ban 3y ago
Mobile web works. I don't know if their signups block non-US phone numbers (they require a phone number for surveillance, er, security purposes).

jmacd 3y ago

This app appears to be region locked. Not available in Canada.

lame-robot-hoax 3y ago

I have access to plugins, browsing, etc. through the website but not through the app. Hopefully they bring that over soon.

unethical_ban 3y ago

Didn't they bring it to iOS with https://chat.openai.com https://chat.openai.com ? Normalize people using the web. And FirefoxAndroid... don't refresh an idle tab unless I tell you to!

nozzlegear 3y ago
One problem I have with their website is that it constantly signs me out. It’s why I ended up downloading an app (GeePeeTee had the best privacy policy I could find) to use their service personally.
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  A valid complaint, though that isn't a lack of capability in the browser, it's a big of the site. I think that happened to me a while back, but I haven't had a problem with it in weeks.
  - nozzlegear 3y ago
    Don't get me wrong, I'm someone who prefers a browser over apps as well. I'll have to give their website a try again, maybe it's not an issue any longer.

sidcool 3y ago

They are rolling out software at breathtaking pace!

crakenzak 3y ago

I really like how it has the open ai whisper speech-to-text model built in so you can use your voice to talk to the model.

theusus 3y ago

Not for iPad :(

fuomag9 3y ago

Not available in Italy lol

wkat4242 3y ago
That's already been reverted. https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-is-available-again-users-italy-spokesperson-says-2023-04-28/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-is-available-agai... Edit: Oh ok you mean the app, I thought you meant ChatGPT in general because Italy banned it for a bit. I think it will come soon, when I had an app in the store and I added a country it also didn't appear straight away.

can16358p 3y ago

Unavailable in my region? Seriously?

Flatcircle 3y ago

Couldn't find it searching the App Store, had to go onto safari, go to OpenAi's website and then click the link which re-directed me to the App Store

valine 3y ago
That’s typical for most new apps. It takes apple a day or two to index everything.

theonemind 3y ago

What does this add over opening chat.openai.com in Safari? It seems like I could perhaps browse conversation history offline (but I can't tell for sure), and voice dictation. I've just used it in Safari with no problems, so I want to know if any compelling reasons exist to use the app. I'd guess it includes additional tracking enabled by an app and other undesirable aspects of an app.

trts 3y ago
If all it does is avoid making me re-authenticate several times a week that alone is worth the install for me.
m3kw9 3y ago
Better ui experience: snapper, could use many UI/background features from the sdk that isn’t available from the web app.
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sherbondy 3y ago
Now they can start to compete more directly with things like Siri and soon Google’s Assistant on somewhat more equal footing, though neither OS provides quite the hooks for third party apps to directly subvert them, though maybe this will change with some of the more extreme antitrust provisions in motion in the European Union.
jeffgreco 3y ago
It’s actually less functional than the web interface — plugins and web browsing features are unavailable. But it does do a LOT of haptic.
- blueberrychpstx 3y ago
  Haptic can be turned off via settings
- ianmcgowan 3y ago

valine 3y ago

Works really well. I'm happy to have an official app. I've never been entirely comfortable with passing my chats through a third party, I prefer to keep the number of people eavesdropping on me to a minimum. Here's to hoping it doesn't log you out constantly like the web app.

motyar 3y ago

- Couldn't find it searching the App Store. - Go to OpenAi's website and then click the link which re-directed me to the App Store - Not available in your country!

Msurrow 3y ago
Gradual rollout.

disjunct 3y ago

So this is why they changed the model dropdown to buttons, more touch friendly.

awestroke 3y ago
Also much better in every way

nobrains 3y ago

UAE: This app is currently not available in your country or region.

berot3000 3y ago
Same for EU?

aaroninsf 3y ago

My experience: - literally impossible to find on the App store, even when searched for by its exact name caps and all; only able to get it by navigating from OpenAI page - weekend-project level UX - no access to my Beta plugins or browsing My conclusion: This is a placeholder, not a product.

paulddraper 3y ago
> literally impossible to find on the App store If you can't find it by the title, that's an App Store issue, not a product issue.
ZeroCool2u 3y ago
In new chats yes, you can't use plugins, but you can create a new minimal chat on desktop with plugins, code interpreter, or browser and it seems to work fine when you open that convo in the app history.

eclectic29 3y ago

"This app requires iOS 16.1 or later".

wejick 3y ago

Waiting the android one, will love it. Btw is there anyway to export or do quick copy paste over long conversation? Seems like not possible to easily scroll and select the whole convo.

blueberrychpstx 3y ago
Yep! There is an export button that allegedly will export all and send to your email.
int_19h 3y ago
Not sure if it's in the app, but on their website, if you go to Settings -> Data Control, there's a button to export all your conversations.

voisin 3y ago

Wish this was available in Canada. Super pumped to have easier mobile access than the website.

cheshire137 3y ago

I wonder if they’ll release an iPad app too, I’d appreciate that.

joewhale 3y ago

I misclicked a birthday year that’s too recent and no matter what, I’m no longer able to login with any method now. Sad.

Mistletoe 3y ago
My experience too. It had one of those idiotic calendars you have to scroll back painfully so I said F it ok today is my birthday. Then it locked me out and said they can't serve me. Tried to log in with another email and it still wouldn't let me. I uninstalled the app and thus my introduction to the world of AI on my phone was complete.

paulvs 3y ago

It's not available on the Paraguayan App Store yet. The same thing happened with ChatGPT itself, it wasn't available in Paraguay for a couple of months and no explanation as to why. I get that it's a free research preview and they don't have to, but it would be nice if I could get these things when most others do. I can switch stores but would need to cancel subscriptions.

circuit10 3y ago
I think it's only in the US at the moment

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NikolaNovak 3y ago

I clicked on the link on my PC. Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI") I opened App Store on my iPhone and typed the name of the app, verbatim. The official/correct app was not in the first 20 entries (which is as far as I was willing to scroll). Which, to me: 1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and is probably easier 2. Doesn't actually seem to solve the problem 3. Puts to shame all the touted benefits of a "walled garden/closed ecosystem".

psychphysic 3y ago
They are fighting an uphill battle against a never ending wave of products that are often well meaning but named too similarly too. Not that HN wants to admit it when gpt4all gpt4free etc comes up
- gtirloni 3y ago
  Is "GPT" a registered trademark in the AI space?
  - nailer 3y ago
    They did apply for one IIRC. Which is silly, but people apply to trademark all kinds of generic terms.
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pmuk 3y ago
Are you outside the US? I got the same results, but then realised it's only available in the US at the moment.
- NameError 3y ago
  I am in the US and had the same issue - ended up installing it by finding the announcement post and clicking through from there.

noelbautista91 3y ago

>The ChatGPT app is free to use and syncs your history across devices Chat history on the mobile app took a while to sync. In the time it synced, I asked ChatGPT is history is synced across devices. It said: (paraphrasing) "History is separate from the app and desktop, due to privacy considerations and the way the system was designed" I see my history now after 5 minutes of waiting on the app

ShamelessC 3y ago
For future reference, any information ChatGPT has "about itself" (as you seem to have asked) would have to be hard-coded into its context. Usually, it's a safe bet that if you ask it questions like that - it's going to come up with some handwavey nonsense that sounds like the "privacy-preserving" approach. Or in short, ChatGPT doesn't have any clue about the details of the various frontends used to serve it.

dharma1 3y ago

US only :/

notShabu 3y ago

Using "Add to Home Screen" for the chat.openai.com URL actually is better for now IMO. It has more features like selecting GPT-4 sub-models with browsing, plugins, etc... Kudos to the responsive CSS

ShamelessC 3y ago
> It has more features like selecting GPT-4 sub-models with browsing, plugins, etc... Well yeah, if you have early access to those features. Most do not.
- stevanl 3y ago
  FYI they're now available for everyone. Just need to enable them in ChatGPT settings.
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armatav 3y ago

Does it use Whisper for transcription? (also transcription API call is bugged AF right now)

blueberrychpstx 3y ago
I wouldn't see why it wouldn't use Whisper. I just wish they could have gotten whisper.cpp working for live transcription on device. But you can also turn on Voice Control and type with your voice without using Open AI - iOS dictation is getting better but not quite on par with Whisper by any stretch.

armatav 3y ago

The people complaining that you can’t find it by searching verbatim: this is always the case for the first 1-2 days with an iOS app launch.

ccooffee 3y ago
The problem also occurs when searching for any low-ranking results in the iOS store, regardless of getting the exact name correct. A friend released a crossword game, and when searching the exact name of the app, it still comes up as the seventh result behind one ad and five other (much more popular) crossword apps with different names.
swyx 3y ago
but this is openai we are talking about, you'd think apple would fast track them towards ranking higher at least to not make apple look terrible
- armatav 3y ago
  I really do think it's just that some index/ranking doesn't get updated for about 24-48 hours - it always seemed to me to be a system issue. Plus, OpenAI has the link on their site, which will bolster the couple days initial release traffic.
detrites 3y ago
Why doesn't Apple fix this? It seems like no matter how their backend architecture works, they could surely find a way even just to manually whitelist new big name apps from well-known companies to the top of search results. Why wouldn't they do that? It's only bad for everyone that instead there's this total shitshow litany of garbage presented to the user instead. It's bad for customers, bad for the app suppliers, and bad for Apple themselves. Totally bizarre.

ericskiff 3y ago

I was excited to try this because I want to be able to use ChatGPT hands-free in certain circumstances. The ideal would be to put it into voice assistant mode, have it listen to me and then answer after a sufficient break in speech. From what I can see, this app lags behind their web interface a bit, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had some approval trouble at Apple and will be rolling out updates more frequently now that the official app is out the door. As it stands, the voice transcription feature returns an API error and it doesn't seem to have any option to read the response to you with text to speech. I'm hopeful to see what updates they roll out in the coming weeks

spullara 3y ago
There are some great Siri shortcuts that work with the OpenAI API. Edit: I am using this one https://github.com/Yue-Yang/ChatGPT-Siri https://github.com/Yue-Yang/ChatGPT-Siri
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  Do go on - I'd love something like this.
  - swyx 3y ago
    yes please, i feel like i am dreadfully underusing iOS Workflows and Siri, and need more inspiration to integrate it into my life
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oluwie 3y ago

Bye bye Google.

kernal 3y ago
More like bye bye ChatGPT knock-offs.

aloer 3y ago

For people outside the US: use a second apple account with Region set to US. I have used this many times for country specific public transport or delivery apps but same thing works here. You do not lose access to other apps, sync features or subscriptions. Go into the App Store app, not your phone settings, click your profile and scroll all the way down to log out. Then log in with a US account, download the app and switch again. You can continue using the US only apps after switching back

gnrlst 3y ago
do updates work if i switch back to my original account?
- aloer 3y ago
  Good point. That doesn’t work, need to log in with the US account first. Or remain logged in. Works fine for me though. I have barely any apps that need updating
- lstamour 3y ago
  Yes they work but you will be prompted to sign in with the account that bought the app by entering its password. Auto-updates sometimes work but only if you’ve entered the password for the account recently. Some work was done around iOS … 14 maybe? to try and improve this experience, but iOS is still not fully multi-account. And strange things sometimes happen to DRM content, in-app purchases and music libraries.
drclau 3y ago
How can you create a US account? Don't they ask for a credit/debit card and/or phone number?
- jimstr 3y ago
  I bought a $20 US gift card on ebay and redeemed that into a new US account
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alphabetting 3y ago

I wonder how Microsoft and the Bing team feel about this.

unnouinceput 3y ago
Considering this is Microsoft's baby, I think they feel quite good about this getting to front of HN.

syntaxing 3y ago

Is the GPT-4 access still limited to 25 messages every 3 hours for iOS?

elashri 3y ago
While it doesn't specify on the app that the limit is 25 messages every 3 hours. It mentions that GPT-4 access is limited and usage caps are reset regularly, but doesn't specify how much.

neom 3y ago

Gonna be cool when I can take a photo with this and ask CGPT what's in the photo/translate/how to repair/etc.

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CSMastermind 3y ago

Is there an iOS SDK to leverage their APIs? Seems like they'd need one to build this app so it would be nice for them to release it to the broader dev community.

zwily 3y ago
The OpenAI APIs are pretty easily accessible over HTTP. Not sure what an iOS SDK would bring to the table.

rvalue 3y ago

Is it prepared to handle markets like India and China?

extr 3y ago

GPT-4 works great, super impressive, but I am significantly less impressed by OpenAI as a business. I'm still locked out of creating a work account because I used up the two accounts-per-phone number limit that they have hardcoded (with no way to free up one of those slots by deleting an account) and can't create a new account. Dozens of posts on their support forum about the same thing, basically impossible to get any kind of human support from them to resolve it.

johnmcd3 3y ago
Had the same experience. The solution is just to use a family member's phone number. The phone number isn't ever used again and is just used to limit automated signups as far as I can tell.
furyofantares 3y ago
I had the same issue; I did delete one of the accounts and -- still the same issue.

jonkiddy 3y ago

I recently read a news article that Sam Altman is attending the Bilderberg Meeting [0]. The timing is perfect. [0] https://bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2023/participants-2023#:~:text=Altman%2C%20Sam https://bilderbergmeetings.org/meetings/meeting-2023/partici...

drewda 3y ago

> P.S. Android users, you're next! ChatGPT will be coming to your devices soon. I'm getting a good chuckle out of this. The thought-leaders have been warning us that large language models will put 99% of professionals out of work and will threaten the nature of human existence... and yet today's leading LLM apparently can't be used to generate code for a boilerplate user interface using the Android SDK.

make3 3y ago
Ridiculous take on multiple fronts, man. -> The thing was released like two months ago, think what LLMs will do in like 10 years. -> They likely want an industrial scale indestructible app for their multi-million $ product, they can take at least three months to build it.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Considering they have hundreds of employees who are literally experts in using GPT-4, including evaluating it's code output, I think it's fair to expect they could produce an 'industrial scale indestructible' android app simultaneously with the iOS app. Especially considering GPT-4 was, allegedly, complete by August 2022. If it doesn't even enable 2x or 3x the output after a half year of familiarization then I think it's a lot harder to use for businesses then commonly suggested.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    How do you know it hasn't 3x their output? For all we know this app was written by one guy while he was waiting for his code to compile.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      Because then management would be very short sighted to not assign 2 more guys waiting for their code to compile to complete the android app simultaneously.

runjake 3y ago

The top search results for "openai chatgpt" are all fakes/scamware. Be sure you use the official link from the linked page.

furyofantares 3y ago

Seems noticeably faster text generation on iOS than on the web, not sure if I'm imagining it?

wkat4242 3y ago

I'd be worried downloading it because there's so many fake spyware ChatGPT apps in the store. But I have Android anyway.. Hopefully that will come too!

qumpis 3y ago
What does spyware mean in this context? Some phishing-like cover websites prompting users to input their credentials of openai? Apart from that, I thought Apple handled permission handling well?
- wkat4242 3y ago
  I don't know exactly, I have not come across any myself. But I heard it's a thing (probably read about it here): https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chatgpt-is-now-being-used-by-hackers-to-spread-dangerous-malware-dont-fall-for-this https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chatgpt-is-now-being-used-by-...

BugsJustFindMe 3y ago

Why is this an app? What does it enable that the website can't?

tempestn 3y ago
Apps can open faster than a webpage, for one thing, which is convenient for a tool you're using all the time. (I say this as someone who resisted making an app for AutoTempest for years based on the same logic, but finally caved to the fact that a lot of people just prefer them. Something I'm now coming to understand as I wait eagerly for a ChatGPT app...)

unicornmama 3y ago

Not available for my region. Sad.

jonplackett 3y ago

Says not available in my region (UK)?

olgeni 3y ago

"Not available in your country", as usual.

hedora 3y ago

So, does this run on iOS, or is it a wrapper of some privacy invading cloud thing? It says it syncs between devices. Is it E2E sync, which is kind of table-stakes for the iOS ecosystem at this point?

danielrhodes 3y ago
What does E2E sync mean here? They already know what you wrote because you submitted it to them, similar to a Google search.
- hedora 3y ago
  Oh, so it's still a cloud thing. Quaint. :-) I wasn't sure, since people are complaining that it makes their phones hot, and it's only a matter of time before this stuff runs locally. I guess that answers my question, though.
  - furyofantares 3y ago
    It's mostly odd that you called ChatGPT "some privacy invading cloud thing"
  - qumpis 3y ago
    Can someone chime in if local runtimes are likely to come soon? Can 10B params or so contain all the compressed contents of the internet?
woodrowbarlow 3y ago
gpt only exists in the cloud. openai has not released the model weights publicly. llama is the closest thing that you can run yourself.

puma_ambit 3y ago

Thank you to the team there that worked on getting this out. I'm very excited to use it!

jkkorn 3y ago

I was a little upset I had to scroll through and endless series of "OpenAI" apps, but then I realized they locked the app to the US Appstore only. Pity

BulgarianIdiot 3y ago

"App Not Available The app is currently not available in your country or region" FFS, I'm a ChatGPT Plus subscriber, but I can't get the app. Why would they even restrict this?

nojvek 3y ago

Yeah can't find app on appstore even by searching. All the top ones are not by OpenAI.

tagyro 3y ago

Funnily enough I've been in contact with the Apple Support Team complaining about the scam "GPT" apps. Their reply, verbatim: "We take reports of fraudulent behavior very seriously. Please provide the following so we can investigate the situation: Steps to reproduce the behavior: Screenshots of the behavior on the iTunes Store or App Store: Names and links to the Apps: After we receive this information, our team will investigate your concern." Am I supposed to provide unpaid work for a $2 trillion company? Also, worth mentioning the "tracking" of the "official" app: The following data may be collected and linked to your identity: Contact Info Identifiers Diagnostics User Content Usage Data Thanks, but no thanks! Disclosure: I developed an iOS app that uses the OpenAI API, but somehow managed to not include any tracking. AKME is free and doesn't include any tracking. The app supports a BYOK (Bring Your Own Key) model, as well as buying in-app tokens https://apps.apple.com/app/akme-ai-knowledge/id6446436196 https://apps.apple.com/app/akme-ai-knowledge/id6446436196

jeroenhd 3y ago
Are they scam apps, though? If they use any GPT model or API they're real apps. Just because OpenAI didn't make an app first doesn't mean they're the only ones that can create apps for interfacing with GPT networks.
- tagyro 3y ago
  Here is a thorough analysis by Alex Kleber - https://privacyis1st.medium.com/the-dark-side-of-the-mac-app-store-how-scam-apps-and-shady-developers-are-preying-on-users-b28062642e6 https://privacyis1st.medium.com/the-dark-side-of-the-mac-app... Yes, there are multiple scam apps
  - Gunnerhead 3y ago
    I read the article, basically there are multiple duplicate apps that do the same thing but with slightly different UI from the same developer. These apps implement UX that violates Apple’s design guidelines. Surprisingly, the reviews are not fake just users are often asked to review the app. I fail to see the scam portion of it? The app seems to deliver what it promised using the GPT API.

quux 3y ago

Digging the use of haptics across this app.

FranklinMaillot 3y ago

I've been using the Bing app for my mobile AI needs. It works on Android, has voice input and is allegedly powered by GPT4.

codethief 3y ago
Thanks, I've been looking for an "official" GPT app for Android for ages! Minor annoyances after trying it out for a few minutes: 1) The app requires you to sign up for conversations longer than 5 exchanges. 2) It disables my keyboard's word suggestions and instead forces its own – English – word suggestions upon me, making it very hard to write in e.g. Spanish. 3) Even typing in English is weirdly difficult – there is some lag and no autocorrection. 4) The text-to-speech and speech-to-text algorithm only supports English. But hey, better than nothing.
- FranklinMaillot 3y ago
  Strange, I don't experience the issues you describe. I can type like in any other app, with keyboard suggestions, even in French.
  - codethief 3y ago
    Weird. Notably, I'm seeing similar (even worse) issues when I use the chat on Bing.com with Firefox (using User Agent Switcher): I can barely type – the JS always overrides ("corrects") my input.

superbiome 3y ago

Unfortunately no beta internet plug-in access in iOS app even when I have it through their website.

jwr 3y ago

"This app is not available in your country or region" Seriously? When is this idiotic corporate idea going to die? Internet has no regions. (BTW, I pay for ChatGPT plus)

yosito 3y ago
Unfortunately, the internet is getting more and more balkanized. What people see in one country is becoming completely different from what people see in another country, and often things are completely inaccessible between countries. Not to mention that even within countries it's becoming impossible to see the same things as someone else.
- nickybuzz 3y ago
  Wow, TIL "balkanize" is a word. I love that!
- jwr 3y ago
  I thought this idiocy would end with the failure of DVD Regions (remember those?), a lesson would be learned and we would all move on. But now I see this kind of crap from companies pretending to be at the forefront of technology and it has me not just frustrated, but worried. Do people at OpenAI realize how much bad will this kind of segregation causes? Because make no mistake, this is segregation: you divide your users into "better" ones and "worse" ones.
dog321 3y ago
The internet most definitely has 'regions' when it comes to laws and resulting potential liability.
nickpp 3y ago
Google’s Bard is not available in the EU, afaik.
- cubefox 3y ago
  They even made it unavailable in Europe full stop, except for the UK, where it was available from the start. Switzerland, Turkey, Norway etc. These countries don't even have GDPR, which is an EU law.

aledalgrande 3y ago

Assume this won't work with custom API keys?

stavros 3y ago

I spent an hour writing a small Signal bot, and I've had ChatGPT on my phone for ages. The experience is the best out of any client I've used, as it's just a chat. I prefer it over a full fledged app.

ZeroCool2u 3y ago
This is actually quite appealing to me. Do you mind if I ask what if any framework you used to do this?
- stavros 3y ago
  I used signald, pysignald, and ChatGPT-bot: https://pypi.org/project/chatgpt-bot/ https://pypi.org/project/chatgpt-bot/ I can probably publish the code somewhere, if you're interested.
  - ZeroCool2u 3y ago
    Thank you so much for the reply! Yes, no pressure, but if you feel like it, that would be great :)
    - stavros 3y ago
      Here it is: https://www.pastery.net/ymxvaf/ https://www.pastery.net/ymxvaf/
      - ZeroCool2u 3y ago
        Thank you!

kernal 3y ago

What a cesspool the AppStore is. It's awash in ChatGPT backend clients that are either subscription based and/or use dark patterns.

satyarohith 3y ago

App not available in India yet.

jshchnz 3y ago

For all those curious about what is in the ChatGPT iOS app, this thread does a deep dive: https://twitter.com/emergetools/status/1659283367710322702 https://twitter.com/emergetools/status/1659283367710322702

NoFace350 3y ago

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riemannzeta 3y ago

Sigh. Another iOS only launch.

n_ary 3y ago

Sadly, more and more, releases these days means U.S. only. Here in Germany, App store tells me, not available in your region or country. That been said, Bing-App is pretty good so far, waiting to look at openAI one. Far too many fake ones masquerading as chatGPT apps and it is really painful to see my friends paying for some of these fake ones to remove adverts and trying to figure out how to make it do things.

teekert 3y ago

Not available in my country sadly (the Netherlands).

nikolay 3y ago

Again, the notorious iOS-first... It's 2023 and releasing multi-platform fully-feature apps is easy!

markuta 3y ago

The app appears to be region locked, at least from the UK.

holistio 3y ago

Anyone know of a reason why this isn't available on the UK app store?

yayr 3y ago

it seems to be not available in all countries yet. Can't find it in the German app store.

insomagent 3y ago

Not available in Taiwan... why?