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Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities
- agilob 4y agoAll of the links go to some fishy domain c212.net which is blocked by µblock lists.
- 0000000000100 4y agoBizarre choice for a domain huh, googlecloudpresscorner.com… With all the domains in the world, they pick one that almost looks fake. Why not presscorner.google.com? (Or why not their TLD…) Anyways, I look forward to some new improvements in Gitlab. Seems a little vague on the details, but I think some different flavors of LLMs should prove interesting. Seems likely it’d spit out different results than what OpenAI might give you. Might indicate that Gitlab is going the direction of getting swallowed by Google though. Feels like these tech companies are playing Katamari and swallowing up everything to make these massive vertical stacks.
- chocolatkey 4y agoI think it's due to cookies. That's why there's e.g. googleusercontent.com, ggpht.com etc. That way if users find a way to upload malicious content (or e.g. blog is compromised) you can't get users' Google cookies
- pmoriarty 4y agoI'm kind of surprised Google would even bother with cookies these days, as there are so many other ways to track users.
- sofixa 4y agoIt's not for tracking, it's for sessions (you know, one of the original purposes of cookies).
- yrro 4y agoIf only there was some sort of system of domain names that could be used to indicate the demarcation points...
- lolinder 4y agoGoogle's cookie situation is complicated, because they have one login that people expect to work across mail.google.com, docs.google.com, drive.google.com, etc. Without going to a ton of server-side gymnastics, the most seamless way to connect all those properties is to set the session ID cookie on .google.com, allowing access to all subdomains recursively. There's no way to exclude certain subdomains, so once you've decided to share a cookie between subdomains you have to use a new domain if you want to exclude a site from sharing.
- yrro 4y ago> There's no way to exclude certain subdomains I think Google should fix this. The alternative is endless domain sprawl, for all time.
- capableweb 4y agoThey have their own tld, .goog, they could surely have put the website under their instead to at least gain some trust, instead of the current abomination of a domain. Or, you know, just use subdomains which has existed since forever...
- lolinder 4y agoSubdomains don't solve the problem, because Google very much intentionally puts the user session cookie on the root of .google.com, thereby sharing with all subdomains.
- kevincox 4y agoThe site is probably contracted to a third party so they don't want it to live under google.com for security reasons. However strange that they didn't use withgoogle.com which IIRC is a commonly used separate domain for this type of thing.
- msoad 4y ago> GitLab plans to improve its customers' DevSecOps workflow efficiency by 10x, by applying AI-assisted workflows I'm also planning to improve my fitness by 10x from tomorrow. Using AI obviously! But today let me eat this pizza
- re-thc 4y agoAI assisted pizza?
- pydry 4y agoThat's right. ChatGPT AI Blockchain big data nosql microservices assisted Pizza.
- archerx 4y agoI have been generating recipes using chatGPT and my cooking has slightly improved. So I guess I had some A.I. assisted pork chops.
- xvilka 4y agoPizzAI
- tmerse 4y agoAlready in existence: https://www.pepperonihugspot.pizza/ https://www.pepperonihugspot.pizza/
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- thejosh 4y agoKeep adding TLA... 3DLLMDevSecOpsAIMLBigDataGPU
- never_inline 4y agoFitness? It's called GymRunOps in 2023.
- justrealist 4y ago
- qeternity 4y agoMaybe Gitlab can use AI to get their uptime > 90%
- PartiallyTyped 4y agoThey need to make sure not to give it terminal access. It might delete a DB or something from prod [1]. It took a lot of effort to write this with a straight face. Ultimately, I failed. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-incident https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-data...
- Aeolos 4y agoWhile this is indeed a very bad incident, this is also 6 years old at this point. Assuming that nothing has changed or was learnt since that incident is a pretty uncharitable reading.
- PartiallyTyped 4y agoI merely made a joke, I did not imply that "nothing has changed" and reading it as such is rather uncharitable.
- nateburke 4y agoGitlab is not a charity. They need to earn their trust like everyone else. Losing data is a big failure. I can see why folks would remember it.
- tarjei_huse 4y agoGitlab cannot compete alone with Github copilot and their other AI offerings, so they bring in Google. Smart, if obvious, move.
- echelon 4y agoGitlab got their nice IPO pop. At this point I imagine that they would love for Amazon or Google to buy them at a modest premium. As a standalone company, they can't unlock the same synergies that Microsoft/Github can. It looks like they're picking their suitor now. Google could certainly take a page from the Nadella playbook and use them to bolster their third place cloud offerings. GCP needs an ecosystem of developer tools to give it a shot in the arm. I predict that the same thing is ultimately going to happen with HuggingFace and the smaller clones (Replicate, etc.) They'll pick a tech giant to partner with, accept a large investment, and eventually look into an acquisition. Didn't Replit just partner with Google, too?
- re-thc 4y agoGitlab has large overlap with bitbucket / jira. Likely more useful for Atlassian to buy Gitlab.
- CrampusDestrus 4y agoGithub gets bought by MS, GitLab gets bought by Google. Who gets bought by Amazon?
- visarga 4y agoMaybe GCP, Azure and AWS could pull together the text to train a language model to tell us how to deal with their fucking stupid UIs and arcane terminology. I dread having to use their cloud portals. How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure? that kind of thing.
- ausudhz 4y agoUse the APIs
- visarga 4y agoThat's very unpleasant. I'd love a chatbot that will ask me what I want to do. A Copilot for Cloud.
- sofixa 4y agoFirst, their UI and UX are very different. Azure is by far the worst (as in pretty much all categories) - even their docs suck, with random broken links (even the links to switch the language of the exemple code) and very weird naming schemes, let alone the actual cloud UI. GCP and AWS are quite decent (for AWS you need to know a bit about how they organise things or use the search, but still). > How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure? The point is that you probably don't need to/shouldn't. IPs are ephemeral, don't matter and can easily change, and shouldn't be used for anything like identity.
- illnewsthat 4y agoCan you give some examples of things you don’t like about Azure UI/UX or Azure docs?
- lolinder 4y ago> GCP and AWS are quite decent AWS's UI varies dramatically by product, which is both part of the problem with it (lack of a coherent design language leads to confusion) and makes it hard to talk about AWS's UI. Everyone has a different opinion based on which subset of tools they use.
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- shmde 4y agoWhy are the links inside the article being redirected through c212.net which in itself redirects to cision.net ? Why not put gitlab links directly inside the article ? What the fuck.
- yrro 4y ago> GitLab plans to improve its customers' DevSecOps workflow efficiency by 10x, by applying AI-assisted workflows How about GitLab fix the most elemental mistakes they have made with the k8s operator for GitLab runner instead of... whatever the hell this is?
- ssss11 4y agoBecause AI sounds cool maybe
- dnsmichi 4y agoGitLab team member here. Thanks for your feedback. I'm curious about what kind of mistakes were made with the Kubernetes Operator [0]? Maybe there are open issues to learn more about your concerns? Thanks! [0] https://docs.gitlab.com/runner/install/operator.html https://docs.gitlab.com/runner/install/operator.html
- yrro 4y agoI was thinking of https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gl-openshift/gitlab-runner-operator/-/issues/131 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gl-openshift/gitlab-runner-ope... - apparantly that has been fixed, a variety of other problems at https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gl-openshift/gitlab-runner-operator/-/issues https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gl-openshift/gitlab-runner-ope... prevent installing any upgrades.
- preisschild 4y agoOr finally completing their child pipeline feature that was introduced almost 3 years ago https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/8205 https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/8205
- jraph 4y ago> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.
- sofixa 4y agoThat's a bit unfair, you shouldn't confuse Google (the b2c services that collect a ton of user data to deliver ads) and Google Cloud Platform. GCP is genuinely quite open. Whereas AWS have the habit of creating proprietary services/making proprietary changes to open source stuff, a lot of what GCP does is based on open source and open standards, done in public, which they themselves push for. Some of their flagship services such as GKE and Cloud Run, their Service Mesh stuff, Cloud Build, etc. run on software open sourced by Google. Of course that's not always the case - BigQuery is fully proprietary, but it's much better than competitor clouds that release the bare minimum publicly to allow consumption, but don't actually make it possible to do the same thing as GCP on your own outside of their environment.
- beebmam 4y agoGoogle is not an open company so it's impossible to conclude that your statements are accurate based on evidence.
- belltaco 4y agoTheir products for businesses also used to spy on them, so it's hard to build trust again. https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for-data-mining-student-email-messages/2014/03 https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for...
- endisneigh 4y agoYou're implying that GCP somehow does not keep customers' data private. Do you have evidence for this?
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- atonse 4y agoHow quickly things change. I read this as “poor Gitlab had to use whatever janky crap Google can put together” - never mind that Google was a leader in the AI space for years. They completely missed this boat and are instantly looking out of touch. After 5 years of using gitlab, we’re planning to switch back to GitHub exactly because of copilot and the Polish of their other features. The only hesitation is the SSO tax.
- qumpis 4y agoWhat does repo being on github have to do with copilot? Free copilot licenses for OSS?
- atonse 4y agoCopilot, Issues and Actions, all symptoms that GitHub is forging ahead and building features that are well thought out and well integrated. Ironically, CI/CD and issues being well integrated were the reasons we switched to GitLab in the first place. But since then we stopped using issues. CoPilot X will help write PR descriptions, some code review, etc. All those things are on top of just hosting the repo.
- john_cogs 4y agoGitLab team member here. We published a blog post[0] yesterday that provides an overview of some features you may be interested in: Code Suggestions, Summarize MR Changes, Summarize My MR Review, and Explain this Code. You can find more information about these features via the links from the blog. 0 - https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2023/05/03/gitlab-ai-assisted-features/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2023/05/03/gitlab-ai-assisted-...
- atonse 4y agoThank you! Will check it out. One thing I will say is that I notice lately that GitLab seems to throw in the word DevSecOps everywhere these days almost as if an exec has ordered everyone to use it a minimum of 20 times a day. It feels like the marketing people are pushing some kind of buzzword quota. Nonetheless, will keep an eye on these features before our renewal cycle in September.
- bitL 4y agoKiss of death for Gitlab? A temporary bump in profits while being technically assimilated by Google due to a significant portion of profits being directly dependent on Google? Now people who don't want to contribute to Microsoft training data sets on Github and escaped to Gitlab will be forced to contribute to Google's training data or forced to migrate elsewhere.
- piyush_soni 4y agoPrediction: Gitlab will be acquired by Google.
- bionsystem 4y agoI'm not even sure Google needs to spend the additional ~4B that they need to acquire Gitlab fully (they own a stake already), if Gitlab already agrees to let them train on their data.
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- nologic01 4y agoFeels like AI is prompting some sort of tech consolidation pattern getting ready for the "next phase". But there are risks associated with an ever-narrowing set of tech providers, e.g., if this goes in the direction of enhancing lock-in and/or your tech provider becoming your competitor. The more general (and in some sense gratuitous and unnecessary) risk is the carte-blanche of big tech to pursue any and all business models that are digitally based (e.g. adtech) in any combination they see fit. Creating and enforcing clear rules about who does what with what responsibilities and liabilities etc would help explore that exciting but also very risky AI enabled "next phase" of IT without constantly second guessing what is really going on and what disasters it might be stoking...
- factorialboy 4y ago> Feels like AI is prompting.. Pun intended?
- i386 4y agoGitlab should stick to its lane and finish its already huge surface area of its products instead of chasing the AI hype. Sid…
- kevincox 4y agoYup, GitLab features are actually fairly good (much better than GitHub IMHO). By far the biggest thing I would ask for is polish. Flesh out existing features, fix bugs, improve UX flows and improve performance.
- dnsmichi 4y agoGitLab team member here. Thanks for your feedback - depth over breadth is a guiding principle for product investments in 2023 (FY24) [0] Bug fixes, UX improvements and performance improvements are added to the monthly release blog post, for example GitLab 15.11 [1] - in case you want to follow these updates more closely. [0] https://about.gitlab.com/direction/#fiscal-year-guiding-principles https://about.gitlab.com/direction/#fiscal-year-guiding-prin... [1] https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2023/04/22/gitlab-15-11-released/#bugs-performance-usability https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2023/04/22/gitlab-15-11-re...
- Grothendank 4y agoWhy does this feel like a union made in hell? Partnering with the incomprehensibly byzantine andcomplacent architect of the SEOpocalypse AND "late-to-the-ai-party" Google does not give faith that the solution will be more performant or private than Github's copilot. This is just another in a series of terrible blunders in the last year that has wiped out any goodwill I had towards gitlab. WTF happened, did they get a new CEO or something?
- O5vYtytb 4y agoI think my productivity would 2x or 3x if gitlab would work on fixing issues with core features such as task planning. There's a lot of minimum viable features that never got improved, especially for those of us on the premium tier. AI sound cool but at this point I'm just expecting another half baked feature that checks boxes for executives to justify purchasing it.
- Ecstatify 4y agoTask planning doesn't increase shareholder value.
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- dcchambers 4y agoI fear this is going to be the cause of the slow death of gitlab. They over-promised on far too many features and have underdelivered with many half baked products and MVPs that have been left to rot. I like the product and the company but they clearly tried to do too much in order to gain market share. GitHub needs competition so it would be great for GitLab to thrive, but the state of the product worries me.
- gen220 4y agoThe recent Shopify memo re "Main Quests" and "Side Quests" applies. I'm hopeful GitLab can turn it around, but at this point it feels like GitLab might be going the way of Jira.
- imrehg 4y agoSince this comment intrigued me, this is the other HN post that the above memo refers to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35813763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35813763 which links to the Shopify blogpost: https://news.shopify.com/important-team-and-business-changes https://news.shopify.com/important-team-and-business-changes Cheers for highlighting it!
- robinhood 4y agoGoogle, just buy Gitlab.
- pankajdoharey 4y agoSounds like a deal to train vertex ai on enterprise codebase in the name of privacy and security. This doesn’t look like a natural partnership to me.
- amf12 4y ago> Sounds like a deal to train vertex ai on enterprise codebase Needs source. Neither Github, Gitlab, AWS, Azure, or GCP legally trains anything on enterprise codebase. If they do, it would be illegal.
- pankajdoharey 4y agoHow was Github Co pilot trained? None of these companies have revealed their sources. But we still know OpenAI itself trained on the google C4 and Pile databases. Who knows maybe even SciHub aswell. We have moved way past asking, well that is illegal zone. As you might know Pile has over 2 million pirated books in it and it is easily downloadable even after bookzz was confiscated by FBI.
- CommanderData 4y agoGoogle should have purchased GitHub. It'll haunt them for a while.
- greatgib 4y agoRemember when people were using gitlab because it was an open source bigtech cloud free alternative to GitHub? At that point there are not anymore good reasons to favor Gitlab against GitHub regarding the path they are following.
- mixmastamyk 4y agoDoes that mean my code will be pulled into this system automatically? (Was looking at getting off github due to this being done by Microsoft.)