26 ms·
DJI Inspire 3: new 8k cinema drone
- rsanaie 3y agoI bought a DJI2 which uploaded all my videos to a cloud service and didn't have the option to disable cloud backup. No thank you!
- m463 3y agoI bought the small foldable dji mavic when it first came out. I could not fly it with the provided controller without installing an app, creating a login, and activating the drone. I sent it back immediately. Later I found out HOW MANY different sites the app would have connected to when I installed it. This kind of thing is horrendous, but businesses have normalized the practice.
- causality0 3y agoThe API is out now so you can use it with third-party apps, just FYI.
- m463 3y agoso you can use a dji mavic out-of-the-box without asking permission from DJI or someone else?
- nixass 3y agoCannot wait to see 8K drone footage from Ukraine
- Foivos 3y agoWhy would they use this over the much cheaper mavic? On average the commercial drones in Ukraine survive 3 missions. I doubt anyone would spend the price of 5 mavic drones just to have more pixels at a trench.
- myth_drannon 3y agoSource? If you are talking averaging suicide drones that have 1 mission and other types, then maybe... But all those drones that we see on YouTube dropping granades, it will be quite shocking to have them shot down so quickly.
- Foivos 3y agoI got it from this video [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/AlpZf1hpQYM?t=2776 https://youtu.be/AlpZf1hpQYM?t=2776
- JasonZ2 3y ago[dead]
- causality0 3y agoI wonder if there's any information out of Ukraine about how effective shotguns loaded with birdshot are against drones. Probably not data you're ever going to get anywhere else.
- Phlarp 3y agoBirdshot is very effective against plastic propellers and soft side lipo batteries, which are both virtually universal critical components on FPV quadcopters. 3 flights actually seems pretty good given the conditions-- I suspect they aren't walking out to fetch any crashed or malfunctioning devices in an active combat zone and the analog video signals are exceptionally easy to interfere with.
- causality0 3y agoSure, but how does the effective range of birdshot compare to useful flight altitudes? How difficult is compensating for drift and elevation? What's the ideal shot size and choke for killing drones? If someone with the best anti-drone load out sees a drone, how long and how many rounds does it take on average to down one?
- wincy 3y agoGod I've seen the drone footage on Reddit sometimes, I don't like suddenly having my Reddit feed have videos of Russian men shooting themselves in the head to avoid dying via being blown up by a drone dropped grenade. Absolutely awful stuff. I'm not sure when Reddit became Ogrish.
- iamacyborg 3y agoUnfortunately it always has been.
- Aeolun 3y agoI hardly think your reddit feed is suddenly full of that.
- unethical_ban 3y ago/r/all is a thing and some people use it.
- qup 3y ago"full" is your word
- quenix 3y agoWhy? Mine certainly suddenly became that.
- david_allison 3y agoThe reddit frontpage algorithm very quickly pigeonholes users without accounts.
- wincy 3y agoIt's when I go to /r/all to see what the broader Reddit is up to. Basically every day there's war footage (at least marked nsfw), the other Reddit front page was featuring a video of a Ukrainian soldier being beheaded by some Russians. Also noticing more random videos of fights and people getting beat up. I don't remember this from Reddit even a year ago.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoIs this yet another DJI drone that's not compatible with DJI's own goggles? If so, it's a baffling blunder they've made multiple times. This one would even be more embarrassing, since they call the secondary camera a "POV" camera. Another issue: DJI continues to rip people off for a CinemaDNG "license." CinemaDNG is a free codec that is not encumbered by licensing fees. At $16,500, this scam adds insult to injury: "The format is unencrypted and free from intellectual property encumbrances or license requirements" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinemaDNG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinemaDNG The thing looks like a very cool professional tool. But these repeated offenses are getting old.
- cherioo 3y agoFrom the same wiki page The adoption of CinemaDNG among camera manufacturers appears to be hindered by Red Digital Camera’s patent US9245314, which covers in-camera recording of lossless compressed raw video. There had been an unsuccessful attempt to invalidate the patent.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoDJI gets around this by moving the recording circuitry outside of the camera. It's in the body of the drone, not in the camera.
- cherioo 3y agoAre you implying that is sufficient to circumvent RED’s patent? IANAL but I would argue a camera-drone is still a camera. Besides that, what you describe sounds like a decision made to reduce weight of the camera module, possibly not related to patent.
- hedora 3y agoBS patents tend to have nonsensical loopholes.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
- palata 3y agoLet's be honest: it kind of rocks
- Covzire 3y ago8K@75fps is pretty nice. Tangent: I've been using software called SVP (SmoothVideo Project) which uses AI/ML with a GPU (3090 in my case) to generate additional intermediate frames for video files, turning a ~24fps 4K Bluray rip into a ~48 fps or even higher. For scenes with a lot of action it's a noticeable improvement, everything feels smoother. All that to say I hope that the industry starts moving to higher frame rates for film, I'd rather have native 4K 48hz content over 8k 24hz.
- Beambender 3y ago[dead]
- wmf 3y agoJames Cameron and Peter Jackson were pushing high frame rate but critics absolutely hate it so I don't think it's going to happen.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoJames Cameron's usage of it was gravely flawed because he arbitrarily kept switching back and forth between 24 and 48 FPS from one shot to another in Avatar 2. There's absolutely no discernible pattern or motivation for the changes. WTF. I wish 48 FPS were adopted widely so we could all just get used to it, because it simply and undeniably renders motion better.
- christoph 3y agoSame to some extent with IMAX Blu-rays. It drives me mad when certain “blockbuster” IMAX disks shift aspect and film stock so quickly, just because… let’s use “IMAX” for some shots... It totally breaks the feel and flow of a movie for me when black bars and film grain suddenly start shifting about and changing. Either film and release it all in IMAX or don’t bother IMO.
- oofbey 3y agoWhat's the utility of having the propellors be able to go up and down relative to the body? Usually they show the propellors way above the camera, which makes sense to keep them out of view. But one of the shots shows the arms way down with the propellors very close to the camera. Why?
- OhNoNotAnother1 3y ago[dead]
- nomel 3y agoPerhaps different flight modes, with the "camera low" case having a much high moment of inertia, so more stable flight? The "camera high" case should reduce the moment of inertia, fore more nimble movement. For rotation, moment of inertia acts as "mass" does for a linear movement [1]. I don't think you would want to zip through obstacles in a "camera low" scenario. 1. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html
- olex 3y agoBasically, this mechanics is the drone's landing gear. When on the ground, the arms pivot down, allowing it to touch down with the camera staying above ground level, protected from impacts. When airborne, the arms pivot up, opening up a 360° field of view for the camera. DJI have done this since the original Inspire 1 and it seems to work pretty well.
- sc00ty 3y agoFrom the video: > By having the landing gear down, an 80-degree upward gimbal angle becomes available, with no obstructions in the FOV.
- elif 3y agothey showed a sick pan up gimbal scene of an elevator.
- jlawer 3y agoThe obvious question is how effective at carrying small improvised explosives is it?
- gpm 3y agoPretty sure "fancy camera quadcopter" is the wrong quadcopter to be using in a warzone where things tend to get blown up.
- everly 3y agoPerhaps, unless those fancy cameras improve targeting capabilities in a meaningful way
- stavros 3y agoYou can already get the FPV camera on the Inspire standalone (looks like the O3), but I doubt it will improve targeting capabilities much. The FPV link is 720p, unless they changed something, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use analog cameras which cost $10.
- dylan604 3y agoMaybe not targeting but the follow up BDA reports. Instead of having to send in a second drone to see the bomb damage, the same system can be used! Also, no need to wait for timing of a satellite pass over either.
- dagorenouf 3y agoLooks awesome but the fact they copied the same webdesign style of Apple puts me off. Why not come up with their own?
- gaudat 3y agoMost of the times I see that layout it has to be from a Chinese, or at least Asian company. Xiaomi, for sure. And I think Asus is doing this too for some ROG notebooks.
- dagorenouf 3y agointeresting, I looked at xiami website and indeed it looks like a copy of apple's webdesign... but the old one (:
- FeistySkink 3y agoWhat's the current DJI Android compatibility?
- anaganisk 3y agoStill requires an external APK download. They want something that Google doesn't want to allow or is restricting.
- chankstein38 3y agoThis page is so distracting. The whole time I'm trying to read their pitch there's stuff moving around everywhere pulling my eye to that. I wasn't going to buy it anyway so I'm just going to go ahead and close it now.
- Giorgi 3y agoIs this the one which is supposed to leave whole camera crew without jobs?
- palata 3y agoI think it's more adding a tool for them to use. Instead of moving a camera along a cable, you can move the drone over a virtual cable. That's pretty cool, but I would guess you still need the same operators.
- elif 3y agothis one supports 3 camera operators controlling it live from different locations.
- KingLancelot 3y ago[dead]
- thomasjb 3y agoWith a beautiful full frame sensor, lens mount and the carbon fibre bodied lenses all there, it would be a shame if they didn't start making a really light camera body with them, something on the Leica-Fujifilm spectrum (Although I guess they have that thanks to their Hasselblad acquisition). It would likely have great potential as a travel camera if they pushed the lightweight aspect
- Arch-TK 3y agoDo these things still require your mobile phone number to use?
- theduder99 3y agoI bought a cheap android phone to drive my drone specifically due to the mandatory chinese spyware app.
- anaganisk 3y agoDoes your phone not have any US spyware apps? Whom are you trying to protect yourself from, the country that has jurisdiction on you or the country that can't even extradite you.
- borissk 3y agoMaybe he's trying to protect himself from a totalitarian dictatorship (that can do whatever it wants) and not from a democratically elected government, whose authority is constrained by independent courts, free media, fair elections and so on.
- pokepim 3y ago[dead]
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- anaganisk 3y ago> a democratically elected government, whose authority is constrained by independent courts, free media, fair elections and so on. Yeah yeah, something, something Iraq prisoners, Guantanamo bay. But seriously, again, China can do jackshit to the person even if they have his entire life data, vs US if it finds certain word or conversation or searches related to certain term. I think it's foolish that people are afraid of Chinese spyware rather than being paranoid about every spyware.
- spurgu 3y agoAssuming language based on location, with semi-infinite scrolling and the language selector on the bottom of the page is an annoying combination.
- grishka 3y agoIf only there was an HTTP header that would tell all websites which languages the user prefers.
- spurgu 3y agoWhat a crazy idea!
- venatiodecorus 3y agoEh I use a Hetzner server from their Virginia datacenter as a VPN but the DJI site still shows up in German for me. I don't see that problem anywhere else tbh.
- 4gotunameagain 3y agoIf only there was a dedicated key on the keyboard that takes you down to the bottom of the page :) Browsing on mobile sucks..
- spurgu 3y agoDoesn't help when you have infinite scrolling involved, keeps loading new stuff. This particular page isn't too bad, at least with a fast connection everything loads in a couple of seconds, but there are worse examples out there.
- OhNoNotAgain_99 3y ago[dead]
- Forgeties79 3y agoNAB show baby! Can’t wait for more.
- cush 3y agoWhat's with all the hate here for DJI? Maybe I'm out of the loop, but the demo video with the choreographed, dynamic, repeatable waypoints, was wild. Seems incredibly powerful and novel
- dylan604 3y agoTheir drones are pretty damn good, but I still hate all of the crap the DJI forces upon their users. This is pretty much a universal feeling towards DJI. They realized from the beginning that they had to force users into flight restrictions as the normal user would A) not know of flight restrictions, B) not care about them, C) break those restrictions at any time. So in order to keep their gear from being outright banned, they added these draconian restrictions to give the impression they were bending over backwards to making a product meant to comply with regulations. That's just a wee bit of the hate. The other shenanigans they do with their apps are not pleasant either. great drones/gimbals/quality otherwise though <smacksforehead>
- jpgvm 3y agoIs there really another option if you want to be able to sell drones to the masses at the mall?
- simooooo 3y agoNo because otherwise the civil aviation authorities would ban them. I have a drone and a license and the restrictions are not draconian. They are the law.
- dylan604 3y agoThey are draconian as I happen to live close enough to an airport that it will not allow me to fly in my own backyard. I have plenty of space to fly and I never even have to get above 6' to do it. I'm under tree canopy, so I couldn't even get high enough to be noticed. I get that there are asshats that will fly a drone in an airport because they're curious, think it'll be epic footage, and/or just stupid and reckless. There are also others that can enjoy the skill of flying the thing low altitude and doing turns around trees like they're pylons. Once again, idiots ruin it for those that are happy working within the regulations.
- bioemerl 3y agoWe really need to ban the import of these things with how important they are to future war.
- homero 3y agoDo you mean export
- dylan604 3y agoProbably not, since DJI is a Chinese company. Don't really think we can ban their export. Oh as much as the US would love to have that kind of control. All it can realistically do is ban what can be imported into its own borders.
- jpgvm 3y agoand exported from allies countries. Hence the whole hullabaloo around semiconductors right now. Makes you wonder what they threaten the Dutch and Japanese with to get them to comply against their better interests though.
- bioemerl 3y agoIt is not in the better interest of the Dutch or the Japanese to enable China to take over the chip production market. In this case the Dutch and the Japanese would both be incredible losers as China backs Russian invasion in Europe and the invasion of Taiwan. You're spreading a propaganda narrative, one designed to try to convince those who are Dutch or Japanese to act against their better interest in order to enable China to grow more powerful.
- jpgvm 3y agoThe status quo was much more beneficial for each of these nations. They got to maintain a leading edge in their respective parts of the supply chain and China kept growing as a customer and buying more. Essentially what will happen now is China will never buy from these nations when they become self-sufficient. The sanctions are willing state-backed Chinese competitors for all of these companies into existence where there either was none before or they weren't competitive. That will all change now, within a decade or so China will have caught up and now you will have an absolute powerhouse that is fully self-sufficient. Essentially the US and her allies traded a situation where they could perpetually keep China a generation behind for a situation where China might fall behind pretty rapidly for a few years but will roar back and likely be more competitive than they have ever been. I fail to see how this isn't against the interests of the Dutch, Japanese or for that matter the South Koreans and Taiwanese.
- Zuiii 3y agoIs this a drone or a drone-as-a-service with a one-time payment? Am I required to be dependent DJI servers and software to use it? What happens if the company goes bust? Will I be able to use thirdparty software to continue using it? If their answer is no, then so is mine. Edit: Downvote me if you want, but professionals want reliable tools that they can depend on for a long time and account for this when making their purchase decision.
- blitz_skull 3y agoExpensive, very cool looking tool. I wish I could watch literally any of the footage but it seems to be hosted on a trash can of a server. I couldn’t even get the 1080p footage to buffer
- InCityDreams 3y agoJagga Jagga, Badaboom.
- InCityDreams 3y agoJagga Jagga! Badaboom.
- simonebrunozzi 3y agoLet me add some more hate vs DJI (they deserve it). Two years ago my drone was stolen. DJI didn't provide any help in locating the drone, nor in locking it. I wasted hours contacting local authorities, DJI representatives, helpful strangers on online forums, etc, with absolutely no result. It is crazy that in 2021 someone could steal a drone and get away with it. FYI, you might want to know that every drone above 250 grams has a beacon, and DJI can access its location at any time when the drone is in operation.