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Current causes of death in children and adolescents in the United States (2022)
- generalizations 4y agoIn 2013 motor vehicle crashes and firearm-related injuries both trended upwards, and seemed to track each other; in 2019 firearm-related injuries and drug overdoses both increased sharply. Something happened in those two years. I wonder what.
- mhb 4y agoIs that what you were looking for in the data before seeing those "trends"?
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- nekoashide 4y agoThe pandemic changed a lot of things, more and more people purchased guns for protection, and fentanyl drug abuse is a massive issue right now and has been for years.
- miah_ 4y agoI'm sure we'll see a upward trend in 'accidents in the workplace' with all the regulations on child work age being lowered.
- nradov 4y agoStarting around 2019 there was a huge increase in accidental fentanyl poisonings due to Mexican drug cartels manufacturing counterfeit prescription opioid pills. https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/ https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/
- k2enemy 4y agoFirearm-related deaths increased a lot. As the article mentions, that is a big category that encompasses suicide, homicide, accidents, etc. Clicking through to a supplementary pdf provides a figure that breaks firearm deaths down by subcategory, sex, and race. https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMc2201761/suppl_file/nejmc2201761_appendix.pdf https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMc2201761/suppl_fi...
- mhb 4y agoFor ages 1-19.
- Philorandroid 4y agoThat's the age range defined in the article, is it not?
- mhb 4y agoYes. Just noting. I also wonder how many people would classify 17-19 year olds as children or adolescents.
- nessbot 4y agoAccording to the AAP[0], even up to 21 would count. [0]https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/140/3/e20172151/38333/Age-Limit-of-Pediatrics?autologincheck=redirected https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/140/3/e20172...
- stametseater 4y agoIf the cutoff was 18 , 21, or even 25 I wouldn't bat an eye. But a cutoff of 19 suggests manipulation of the statistic to achieve a desired outcome. 18 - Old enough to vote, join the army without parental permission. 21 - Old enough to drink and buy cigarettes. Also the age used for numerous firearm purchase/carry laws, when that age isn't 18. 25 - Popularly claimed to be when the human brain reaches maturity, or something like that. 19 - ....has "teen" in the word?
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- scarface74 4y agoSo if there were a “War on Guns” in the US, do you think it would be targeted toward “rural America” or the “inner city”?
- shadowgovt 4y agoThere really doesn't have to be a war on guns. Ban manufacture and sale to any party but the US government and let entropy do the work.
- Philorandroid 4y agoThere are plenty of resources out there for reactivating spent 9x19mm casings (Project ButWhatAbout) with supplies legally available in Western Europe, it's wishful thinking that just banning ammo would pan out. The genie's kind of out of the bottle.
- zzzeek 4y agoif selling your gun was illegal, sure, you could still sell it. but would you choose to sell it to a loner, mentally unstable 18 year old knowing you'd be in serious trouble if that gun were used in a crime and they named you as the source of the gun? If the kid isn't killed in the mass shooting, and he says "I got the gun from..." seems not worth the risk
- throwuwu 4y agoIf it’s illegal then it’ll just be done the same way as making an illegal purchase is now, probably by asking around until you find someone that “knows a guy”. Either that or you’d just steal one.
- rmnwski 4y agoAnyone has an idea what caused the decline in Motor Vehicle Deaths from ~2004-2014?
- BoxFour 4y agoHighly likely a lot of it is simply older cars without safety features we consider basic these days (like side air bags) being phased out. Very few people driving cars from the 80s or earlier these days. You can probably thank Ralph Nader for a lot of it, honestly.
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- jsbg 4y ago> You can probably thank Ralph Nader for a lot of it, honestly. no https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35341056 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35341056
- BoxFour 4y agoVehicles became a lot safer because of Ralph Nader. Google “unsafe at any speed”.
- jsbg 4y agodid you look at the graph? has he been active in auto safety since the 1920s?
- BoxFour 4y agoI did, you apparently didn't because you missed the huge increase in fatalities from the mid 60s to mid 70s. Look up when "Unsafe At Any Speed" was written and think about what might've reversed that trend.
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- Dreako 4y agoFirearm related injuries went up accross all ages post pandemic. Is there any info on how many of them were school shootings? how many of them were gang violence related death?
- imwithstoopid 4y agothe FBI has a very thorough crime database, I am sure you can make a public request afaik school shootings are a tiny fraction of youth gun homicides similarly, "assault rifles" represent a tiny fraction of all gun homicides
- mistrial9 4y agoin the ghetto cities nearby, only a small number of murders and overall firearm incidents are solved. I cannot imagine that they are accurately captured at the national scale. On the 4th of July night or New Years night, literally hundreds of firearms go off for hours in crowded, urban areas.. completely illegal.
- imwithstoopid 4y agoFBI does indeed track unsolved homicides, as does your local PD
- stametseater 4y agoSolving a murder and determining whether a murder was committed with a rifle are two completely different things; you don't need to know who the culprit was to determine how they did it. There is no reason to believe that murders committed with rifles go unsolved more frequently than those committed with handguns.
- Rebelgecko 4y agoFBI has only published their UCRs up through 2019
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- qgin 4y agoStriking that the top 3 causes are from human inventions (cars/guns/drugs). Makes me wonder what new causes of death have yet to be invented.
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- yjftsjthsd-h 4y agoDoes it help if you consider how many causes of death we've invented away from? People don't die from a host of diseases because we have vaccines now, a whole host of things improved in the medical side of things so that people don't die in childbirth, inventions in agriculture allow people to starve an awful lot less than they used to, etc.
- barbazoo 4y agoLots of people trying to make polio prevalent again...
- punyearthling 4y agoI figured firearms and ODing would be on the rise, but suffocation surprised me. It's still low, but also one of the few that's trending upward. What could be the cause of that?
- Nextgrid 4y agoStupid TikTok/social media challenges?
- Inhibit 4y agoDrowning, if it's not covered elsewhere, would be my guess. Possibly infants with improper bedding and smothering hazards in their bed.
- stametseater 4y agoThe most proximate cause of death in a typical opioid overdose is respiratory depression; they stop breathing. Also, the popularization of autoerotic asphyxiation may play a role. The article's statistics do include teens up to 19 after all.
- slackfan 4y agoSuicide by hanging is still a thing in the 21st century.
- rossdavidh 4y agoFirearms, motor vehicles, and overdose all jumped large % amounts from 2019 to 2020. One has to wonder how much of this is mental-health related, given that 2020 had a, uh, significant impact on many people's mental health.
- thomastjeffery 4y ago> This change is largely explained by the 110.6% increase in unintentional poisonings from 2019 to 2020. That's the only days about circumstance I could find in the article. Everything else is about the direct cause of death.
- yucky 4y agoSuicide rates in teens has been trending upward long before COVID. Look at the rates over time with the release of the smartphone and popularization of social media.
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- setgree 4y agoSo, the news here is that gun deaths are now the leading cause of death for teens (ages 13-19), but for kids 1-12, cars remain the leading cause of death in the US. Per https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/12/28/fact-check-many-more-children-die-from-road-violence-than-gun-violence/ https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/12/28/fact-check-many-more-... > Through age 12, more than 500 more U.S. kids died in vehicle crashes in 2020 than were killed with firearms. But the numbers flip beginning with age 13, and emphatically. For ages 13 through 19, firearms killed more than 1,000 more teens than did traffic crashes. Historically, car crashes are the leading cause of death for both groups combined.
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- throwaway4PP 4y agoAs others have pointed out, the choice of the age range has a significant impact on the conclusions one is able to draw. In particular, this paper defines "Children and Adolescents" as 1 to 19 years old, which captures a lot of firearms related deaths due to gang violence. Unfortunately, politics and culture war are infused in everything. But, if you want to be informed so that you can make better, persuasive arguments, I suggest looking at the CDC Child Health data here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/child-health.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/child-health.htm TLDR: non-accidental deaths are weighted heavily towards 15-19 year olds, and due to that cohort's fraction of the 1-19 year population, when 15-19 year olds are lumped together with 1-14 yos, it allows someone to present data that homicides are the leading cause of death for 1 to 19 year olds. The further refinement from homicides -> firearms is presumably disambiguated in the referenced paper. While the authors are obviously free to frame the data and discussion however they please, this strikes me as a paper designed to serve a policy position or perhaps guide political action more so than an even handed look at childhood deaths. Add to it the emotional impact that we're talking about children here, and I find it verging into the emotionally manipulative. ************************** CDC data Children aged 1-4 years: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F178 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F178 - Accidents (unintentional injuries); 8.5 deaths/100k - Congenital malformations, deformations, and chromosomal abnormalities; 2.7/100k - Assaults (homicide) - not broken down by assault weapon; 2.0/100k Children aged 5-9 years: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F179 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F179 - Accidents (unintentional injuries); 4.1/100k - Cancer; 1.7/100k - Assaults (homicide) - not broken down by assault weapon; 0.9/100k Children aged 10-14 years: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F180 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D321F180 - Accidents (unintentional injuries); 4.3/100k - Intentional self-harm (suicide); 2.8/100k - Cancer; 2.1/100k - Assaults (homicide) - not broken down by assault weapon; 1.4/100k Children aged 15-19 years: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D332F493 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D158/D332F493 - Accidents (unintentional injuries); 23.6/100k - Assaults (homicide) - not broken down by assault weapon; 12.8/100k - Intentional self-harm (suicide); 10.9/100k edit: wow, HN really dislikes my efforts at a well-formatted post. hopefully corrected now.
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- carrotcarrot 4y agoDefinitely not the vaccine
- genman 4y agoWhat happened to the US official statistics? There was one for 2019, do we have for 2020 and 2021?
- glonq 4y agoGun advocates tend to add insult to injury by vilifying gun violence victims and their families. I suppose its because those victims manifest the inconvenient truth that the cost of America's gun obsession is paid with the blood of innocents. So if you're a gun owner, please be sure to thank those victims and donate to their families. They died so that you can own your loud shiny tools of effortless assassination.