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Apple Music Classical is out
- darreninthenet 4y agoStill not available here (UK) yet... says tomorrow
- noarchy 4y agoIs this US-only? Still not available in Canada from what I can see, still showing 'Coming Soon' with an expected release of tomorrow, March 28.
- JasonZ2 4y agoIt's also showing 3/28 for the US.
- irrational 4y agoNot available in the US.
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- Operyl 4y agoStill not available here (US).
- nickpeterson 4y agoFuture is already here and all that jazz…
- tarentel 4y agoThis page seems to indicate that it is not in fact out. I am pretty excited for this though. I do like classical music but it can be a pain to figure out which recording of a song to listen to. Some interpretations really annoy me especially with respect to piano music. Orchestral music I don't know as much about and most of the recordings I've listened seem fine although I know some people have a lot of opinions on various recordings/interpretations.
- kayodelycaon 4y agoMy goto way of finding stuff is to ask a friend for a YouTube video and then use youtube-dl to yoink the audio. :)
- dtjb 4y agoThat was one of my favorite things about Primephonic, they had human-recommended recordings of most pieces in common repertoire.
- _23sd 4y agoOnly in a few countries where it's now the 28th. EU and US have a while longer to wait.
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- gennarro 4y agoSeeing the same. Not yet available in the US
- manicennui 4y agoI understand how a different type of search is beneficial for classical music, but why isn't this just a feature of Apple Music?
- niek_pas 4y agoI think (based on zero insider knowledge) that's a UI decision. Cluttering up an app most people use to search for Ed Sheeran or w/e with data attributes like 'conductor', 'orchestra', 'composer', etc. — all of which are meaningless to 'most people' — makes the app less usable for most people (including myself, when I'm not listening to classical). The 0.5% of people who actually want these features can just download this app.
- whywhywhywhy 4y agoStill doesn’t seem like something that needs to exist. They literally could just have a classical section with these features in the base Music.app. Calling it now this app will be quietly discontinued by 2025. Doesn’t justify the engineering overhead for a different meta data grouping/filtering. None of this sounds anywhere near as complicated as people are making it out to be.
- Veen 4y ago> None of this sounds anywhere near as complicated as people are making it out to be If that's true, why does every mainstream music app do such a terrible job with classical musical?
- whywhywhywhy 4y agoThat doesn’t mean it needs to be an entirely separate executable. You can just have a different filter view and search control.
- Veen 4y agoIt's a rebranded version of an app Apple acquired. Presumably they thought that was a more elegant solution than shoehorning classical into an interface designed for pop music.
- modernpink 4y agoIt will be interesting to see how they define "classical" — Does it include only Western art music? Does it include only music from the Baroque and after? What about Perotin? Does it include classical musical traditions from non-western musics? Does it include folk musics? How about modern movements like 'musique concrète' or avant-garde jazz? How about instrumental film scores? Anime film scores?
- alkonaut 4y agoThe need for this is because of metadata, not genre really. Something that works in the artist/album/track format has no need for it, and something that doesn't adhere to the composer/orchestra/recording/etc format of metadata and organization that classical uses, also doesn't fit very well. Classical film scores are definitely good fits, because they have composers and there exists multiple recordings done by different orchestras and so on. It may be that some categories of music that aren't traditional western classical will fit right in, and might be put here instead of in the regular Apple Music, who knows. But mainly, this is just a way of finally recognizing that Artist/Album/Track doesn't work and never worked for classical, so it's a way of correctly organizing/browsing/consuming classical music.
- klodolph 4y agoThis is exactly it—it’s the metadata problem. The question is not “how do we draw the line between classical music and non-classical music”, but how do we fix the problem of sorting / organizing music that has a known composer and multiple recordings by different musicians / orchestras. Even though people play covers in popular music styles, people rarely care about organizing the music that way. I don’t think, “I want to hear Yesterday” and then look up a list of covers. But I do think, “I want to listen to Rite of Spring” and then look up a list of recordings. Even though composers are a big deal in Jazz, I still usually care more about the performer. Most of the time, I’m not going to ask the computer for a list of Autumn Leaves recordings.
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- niek_pas 4y agoNot available in NL yet either (coming tomorrow).
- dagmx 4y agoFor people confused why they don’t see it, on Reddit, the only people seeing it are in places like Singapore and Malaysia. Therefore I assume it launches at a specific time in each location?
- elzbardico 4y agoit is scheduled for March 28th globally, not specifically US march 28th. As those countries are already on March 28th, or very close to it, they got it before. Let's just wait for this old tired globe to spin a bit more, and it will available for us too.
- dagmx 4y agoTo be more specific, it wasn’t the 28th yet in those locations when I commented. Which is why I said it’s launched at a specific time per locale. Like 9pm on the 27th or something like that. Same general point but worth mentioning that it was earlier than the 28th there
- schoolornot 4y agoWas there really that much demand for this kind of app? I'm still going to check it out. Hopefully it's snappier than regular AM and they can use this app as a "testing ground" for changes to the other app.
- graypegg 4y agoI believe they bought an app that was already providing a similar service, [0] so they didn’t need to purchase and organise the library themselves. I’d imagine this was pretty cheap and fast to build, compared to other apple projects! Low investment and pre-existing user base to migrate seems like a pretty good deal. [0] https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2021/08/apple-acquires-classical-music-streaming-service-primephonic/ https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2021/08/apple-acquires-cla...
- jmondi 4y agoOn one hand, I’m stoked because I only listen to instrumentals, so this seems great for me. On the other… Why not just fix the UI of Apple Music? It drives me bonkers that when I go to the browse section, it is 99% crap that I would NEVER listen to. Everything I listen to is instrumentals and sleep music. Ambient noise, etc. Why are you recommending The Beach Boys to me??? No, I do not want to listen to Cardi B. When the have I ever listened to country music? Never! Why is country one of the top categories under browse? I want to browse for music that I actually listen to! Why is there no option for me to remove categories that I will never listen to.
- giraffe_lady 4y ago"I am hostile to the very idea of my taste changing" is hopefully a minority stance and one I'm glad they don't encourage.
- sowbug 4y agoI don't detect hostility in the desire to keep search and discovery features separate. Have you ever repeated a Google search with quotes to exclude their adorable notion of synonyms, especially for tech terms?
- Zealotux 4y agoSpeaking for myself, I have my ways of discovering new music, and none of them is about recommendations in my music app; when I use Deezer: I expect the music I deliberately choose to have there to be playing; anything else is a distraction.
- elzbardico 4y agoIf this stance keeps people away from Cardi B, I would surely hope it becomes more popular.
- giraffe_lady 4y agoCardi B is legitimately one of the most skilled rappers of her era lol I think you're letting something prejudice you against her music maybe.
- frizlab 4y agoNot yet for me.
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- givinguflac 4y agoAll I want to know is if this app has cross fade. It’s been on android forever but not the iOS Apple Music and it makes no sense.
- saghm 4y agoThis is super interesting to me because I've never understood the appeal of crossfade; I've always assumed it was just a holderover from music being played on the radio, and that the radio did it just to be able to squeeze in more ads. What's the appeal of crossfade for a listener?
- givinguflac 4y agoFor me specifically it’s the ability to seamlessly loop a track especially those with silence in the intro/outro. More specifically I’d love to see it implemented so I can play rain/waves sounds without a noticeable start/stop to the track.
- Y-bar 4y ago> Requires an Apple Music subscription (Individual, Student, Family, or Apple One). Not available with the Apple Music Voice Plan. This reads to me that it does not allow local/offline libraries. Is that correct?
- tehnub 4y agoIn my experience with the non-classical app, Apple Music has good but not perfect support for a local/offline library. I'm not sure, but you can probably do local playback of offline music even without a subscription. If you do have a subscription, it will actually let you upload your local library so that it can be streamed to any device (e.g. upload on PC, stream on iPhone). The two imperfections are that it's limited to AAC quality even if you upload a lossless file, and that it will sometimes "match" your local file to something in the Apple Music Library, and it's not an actual perfect match.
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