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Step by step, ever since the calling the diver a "pedo", every since the "funding secured" i've began to realise just how petty and pathetic elon is. Every oppo

Step by step, ever since the calling the diver a "pedo", every since the "funding secured" i've began to realise just how petty and pathetic elon is. Every opportunity he has he seems to show just how vindictive he really is. Man child who now has way too much money. Buying Twitter on a whim is the latest in a string of decisions which do not align with the "let's get to Mars and save earths environment" stuff he likes to be seen as.

sillysaurusx 4y ago
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- aqme28 4y ago
  This comment is magnificently self-unaware
- windowshopping 4y ago
  > if your comment feels good to write, it's often a red flag I'm not new to HN and I don't think any such rule of thumb exists. Writing vindictive flame comments is one thing, but writing a measured opinion of someone's actions is another. Your comment sounds condescending and I don't think it accurately represents the community's mindset here.
  - sillysaurusx 4y ago
    Their comment could have been replaced with “Elon bad” and it wouldn’t change the delta of how much you’ve learned from reading it. It was little more than a vindictive flame comment. As for being condescending, I’ve often wondered how Dan manages not to sound condescending when explaining the philosophy behind why the rules are in place. It’s true that he’s articulate in a way that I probably can’t match. But if you ask him, I’ll bet you money he’d agree that the Elon flame was a net negative. I wanted to try something other than “downvote and move on,” since they’re new to the site. Maybe that was a mistake.
    - Larrikin 4y ago
      It's condescending and not helpful because you are not a moderator, you just have a feeling of how things should work in your opinion. If it's a rule violation in your opinion, then report it and it will be handled. Otherwise you at best come across as brown nosing and at worst the exact same kind of person that gets cancelled on Twitter for confronting and calling the police on a family barbecue in the park.
    - permo-w 4y ago
      I think the sentiment of your flagged comment is fair. the parent was a bit of an non-contributive emotional diatribe that could more or less be replaced with "Elon bad". but the tone of your reply completely misses the mark. beyond seeming a bit like the kid trying to impress the teacher by telling others how to behave, the explicit assumption that the commenter was new to HN was extremely tactless, and the way you appeared to speak for the community as a whole was quite grating my equally-unsolicited friendly advice to you would be that if you do look at someone's comment history before replying, it's quite uncouth to comment on it, and you probably should avoid speaking for the community, especially if what you're saying isn't literally directly in the community guidelines
  - belorn 4y ago
    I do not really see how calling someone a petty pathetic vindictive man child spoiled whimsy attention seeker, is anywhere near a measured opinion. That said, this is a prime example of downvote/flag moment and move on.
pavlov 4y ago
He's lost himself in the fake popularity of being a social media celebrity. He started believing that having 100 million followers on a web site really means that a continent's worth of people adore you. For all his complaints about bots after he got cold feet on the Twitter purchase, he seems strangely naïve about how social media really works and what's real there. “This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the meeting. “I have more than 100 million followers, and I’m only getting tens of thousands of impressions.” - https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593099/elon-musk-twitter-fires-engineer-declining-reach-ftc-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593099/elon-musk-twitter... By Monday afternoon, “the problem” had been “fixed.” Twitter deployed code to automatically “greenlight” all of Musk’s tweets, meaning his posts will bypass Twitter’s filters designed to show people the best content possible. The algorithm now artificially boosted Musk’s tweets by a factor of 1,000 – a constant score that ensured his tweets rank higher than anyone else’s in the feed. - https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets-algorithm-changes-twitter https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets...
- moffkalast 4y ago
  So the real reason behind him buying Twitter was to force the entire site to be his followers? Lmao.
  - black_13 4y ago
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  - rco8786 4y ago
    This is pretty plainly obvious to anyone who has been a Twitter user throughout this whole thing. I was (was) a daily user for the last ~8 years. Then a few months ago all of the sudden like half my timeline was either elons tweets or tweets about elon. I don’t follow him and never have. But there he was, all over my timeline.
    - DeusExMachina 4y ago
      I have been using Twitter for 12 years and this has not been "obvious" to me at all. You shouldn't assume that your opinions are obvious or even shared by the majority of people you mention.
propogandist 4y ago
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- the_gipsy 4y ago
  Hey, at least you're not hiding it.
- cto_of_antifa 4y ago
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vitiral 4y ago
“Greatness is a transitory experience. It is never consistent. It depends in part upon the myth-making imagination of humankind. The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in. He must reflect what is projected upon him. And he must have a great sense of the sardonic. This is what uncouples him from belief in his own pretensions. The sardonic is all that permits him to move within himself. Without this quality, even occasional greatness will destroy a man.” —from “Collected Sayings of Muad’Dib” by the Princess Irulan Dune, Frank Herbert
- AlexandrB 4y ago
  It's interesting to think that maybe the reason Steve Jobs remains so highly admired is that he died before he had the chance to do or say something monumentally dumb that broke the illusion of his greatness.
MobileVet 4y ago
I think it’s a weird narcissistic need to feel that they are the center of the conversation and so they are important. What is so interesting about Elon is that he was objectively quite important prior to Twitter... but that wasn't enough. Whatever your target, whatever you achieve... it is not enough.
- permo-w 4y ago
  if you have this massively outsized will to power/wealth/fame, it doesn't suddenly go away once you get there. this means that if you are super wealthy, for you not to become a black hole of power/fame accumulation, your path there has to have been almost an accident
- boringg 4y ago
  I was listening to a podcast recently (Maybe Ian Leslie on EconTalk) talking about people who are goal seeking vs people who get pleasure out of the process. The people who are goal seeking achieve their next goal but are never satiated - once achieved they need something to fill that "hole". It seems he might be one of those goal objective people. It's obviously more complicated than that but it does make a lot of sense intuitively.
cheq 4y ago
I'm not too fond of Elon and have blocked him on Twitter because I don't like selfish personalities nor fanatism or personalism from the community, but he's saying normal and rightful stuff in these tweets. You can say a lot of things about him but not infer that with these tweets. Sometimes these answers make me believe they are created for bot brigades and astroturfing.
dang 4y ago
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." These things are invariably popular, repetitive, and nasty. You may not owe $BILLIONAIRE better but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34980579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34980579)
- 93po 4y ago
  Thanks dang. Space man bad tangents are really tiresome and contribute nothing to the discussion.
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sillysaurusx 4y ago

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aqme28 4y ago
This comment is magnificently self-unaware
windowshopping 4y ago
> if your comment feels good to write, it's often a red flag I'm not new to HN and I don't think any such rule of thumb exists. Writing vindictive flame comments is one thing, but writing a measured opinion of someone's actions is another. Your comment sounds condescending and I don't think it accurately represents the community's mindset here.
- sillysaurusx 4y ago
  Their comment could have been replaced with “Elon bad” and it wouldn’t change the delta of how much you’ve learned from reading it. It was little more than a vindictive flame comment. As for being condescending, I’ve often wondered how Dan manages not to sound condescending when explaining the philosophy behind why the rules are in place. It’s true that he’s articulate in a way that I probably can’t match. But if you ask him, I’ll bet you money he’d agree that the Elon flame was a net negative. I wanted to try something other than “downvote and move on,” since they’re new to the site. Maybe that was a mistake.
  - Larrikin 4y ago
    It's condescending and not helpful because you are not a moderator, you just have a feeling of how things should work in your opinion. If it's a rule violation in your opinion, then report it and it will be handled. Otherwise you at best come across as brown nosing and at worst the exact same kind of person that gets cancelled on Twitter for confronting and calling the police on a family barbecue in the park.
  - permo-w 4y ago
    I think the sentiment of your flagged comment is fair. the parent was a bit of an non-contributive emotional diatribe that could more or less be replaced with "Elon bad". but the tone of your reply completely misses the mark. beyond seeming a bit like the kid trying to impress the teacher by telling others how to behave, the explicit assumption that the commenter was new to HN was extremely tactless, and the way you appeared to speak for the community as a whole was quite grating my equally-unsolicited friendly advice to you would be that if you do look at someone's comment history before replying, it's quite uncouth to comment on it, and you probably should avoid speaking for the community, especially if what you're saying isn't literally directly in the community guidelines
- belorn 4y ago
  I do not really see how calling someone a petty pathetic vindictive man child spoiled whimsy attention seeker, is anywhere near a measured opinion. That said, this is a prime example of downvote/flag moment and move on.

pavlov 4y ago

He's lost himself in the fake popularity of being a social media celebrity. He started believing that having 100 million followers on a web site really means that a continent's worth of people adore you. For all his complaints about bots after he got cold feet on the Twitter purchase, he seems strangely naïve about how social media really works and what's real there. “This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the meeting. “I have more than 100 million followers, and I’m only getting tens of thousands of impressions.” - https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593099/elon-musk-twitter-fires-engineer-declining-reach-ftc-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593099/elon-musk-twitter... By Monday afternoon, “the problem” had been “fixed.” Twitter deployed code to automatically “greenlight” all of Musk’s tweets, meaning his posts will bypass Twitter’s filters designed to show people the best content possible. The algorithm now artificially boosted Musk’s tweets by a factor of 1,000 – a constant score that ensured his tweets rank higher than anyone else’s in the feed. - https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets-algorithm-changes-twitter https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets...

moffkalast 4y ago
So the real reason behind him buying Twitter was to force the entire site to be his followers? Lmao.
- black_13 4y ago
  [dead]
- rco8786 4y ago
  This is pretty plainly obvious to anyone who has been a Twitter user throughout this whole thing. I was (was) a daily user for the last ~8 years. Then a few months ago all of the sudden like half my timeline was either elons tweets or tweets about elon. I don’t follow him and never have. But there he was, all over my timeline.
  - DeusExMachina 4y ago
    I have been using Twitter for 12 years and this has not been "obvious" to me at all. You shouldn't assume that your opinions are obvious or even shared by the majority of people you mention.

propogandist 4y ago

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the_gipsy 4y ago
Hey, at least you're not hiding it.
cto_of_antifa 4y ago
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vitiral 4y ago

“Greatness is a transitory experience. It is never consistent. It depends in part upon the myth-making imagination of humankind. The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in. He must reflect what is projected upon him. And he must have a great sense of the sardonic. This is what uncouples him from belief in his own pretensions. The sardonic is all that permits him to move within himself. Without this quality, even occasional greatness will destroy a man.” —from “Collected Sayings of Muad’Dib” by the Princess Irulan Dune, Frank Herbert

AlexandrB 4y ago
It's interesting to think that maybe the reason Steve Jobs remains so highly admired is that he died before he had the chance to do or say something monumentally dumb that broke the illusion of his greatness.

MobileVet 4y ago

I think it’s a weird narcissistic need to feel that they are the center of the conversation and so they are important. What is so interesting about Elon is that he was objectively quite important prior to Twitter... but that wasn't enough. Whatever your target, whatever you achieve... it is not enough.

permo-w 4y ago
if you have this massively outsized will to power/wealth/fame, it doesn't suddenly go away once you get there. this means that if you are super wealthy, for you not to become a black hole of power/fame accumulation, your path there has to have been almost an accident
boringg 4y ago
I was listening to a podcast recently (Maybe Ian Leslie on EconTalk) talking about people who are goal seeking vs people who get pleasure out of the process. The people who are goal seeking achieve their next goal but are never satiated - once achieved they need something to fill that "hole". It seems he might be one of those goal objective people. It's obviously more complicated than that but it does make a lot of sense intuitively.

cheq 4y ago

I'm not too fond of Elon and have blocked him on Twitter because I don't like selfish personalities nor fanatism or personalism from the community, but he's saying normal and rightful stuff in these tweets. You can say a lot of things about him but not infer that with these tweets. Sometimes these answers make me believe they are created for bot brigades and astroturfing.

dang 4y ago

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." These things are invariably popular, repetitive, and nasty. You may not owe $BILLIONAIRE better but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34980579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34980579)

93po 4y ago
Thanks dang. Space man bad tangents are really tiresome and contribute nothing to the discussion.

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