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An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion
- Nursie 4y agoThis sort of thing makes me wonder about paraphilia’s that might emerge - images which might tweak some human reactions in a way that human bodies just can’t. Like those flowers that mimic female flies so well the males prefer them to actual female flies.
- BaculumMeumEst 4y agothat already applied to anime porn or 3D rendered porn, no? after all, AI porn is just imitating these. now it's just easier to mass produce.
- esperent 4y agoDoesn't make up and plastic surgery already count?
- noduerme 4y agohow'd that turn out for the flies?
- Nursie 4y agoWell, if the nature documentary I saw is to be believed, they eventually get tired of the plant not acting quite right and go find a real female fly. (IIRC it’s some sort of orchid) Which I guess makes evolutionary sense - you want to use the fly for pollination, but you can’t be so sexy it completely gives up on procreation, or you run out of pollinators!
- someweirdperson 4y agoThat would require a lot of people to rate generated images, to use as feedback to push the training in that direction? How are they going to pay them for all that work? Oh, wait, ...
- ben_w 4y agoPeople have suggested this has already happened with the unrealistic portrayals in porn, in regards to the acts themselves being easier (and with less concerns about cleaning up before or after), and also with body shapes focusing on and emphasising certain traits that are uncommon to the point that IRL they're either unhealthy or require surgery. (I don't know if such claims are well founded, just that I've heard them).
- justsomehnguy 4y ago> if such claims are well founded Just visit r/boltedontits.
- fwlr 4y agoRelevant: https://twitter.com/greentextrepost/status/1626079361169510402 https://twitter.com/greentextrepost/status/16260793611695104...
- Traubenfuchs 4y agoArt already does that! Don‘t you know about furry porn? Hyper, macro, vore -there are all kinds of fetishes that would be impossible in real life. Insane hyperoptimizations.
- flippinburgers 4y agoShould it come as a surprise that patreon has flagged the unstable account and is reviewing it?
- esperent 4y agoNo because unfortunately Patreon, like every other service, is forced to use Mastercard and Visa who have decided they are the arbiters of morality in our society.
- ElCapitanMarkla 4y agoI believe it’s less morality and more these adult markets have a much greater level of risk involved. Loads more disputes, etc.
- gizmo 4y agoThe issue has never been that the adult industry balked at dispute fees. PSD2 enforced two-factor payment checks also make disputes much less of an issue. This is entirely about Visa/Mastercard simply refusing to work with some industries.
- zo1 4y agoThat's a lame excuse tbh. If they had no objection they'd allow it for every merchant and then only after said merchant has a lot of "disputes,etc" would they then block said merchant from selling such services. They even have a genuinely good reason then!! It's like saying "yeah we don't service the entire Chinese and Russian IP block because of risk and lots of hacking coming form there."
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- ddmma 4y agoSurely new categories will develop such as 6 fingerings
- curtisblaine 4y ago"The generated porn could have negative consequences particularly for marginalized groups, the ethicists say, including the artists and adult actors who make a living creating porn to fulfill customers’ fantasies" Why "marginalized"?
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- Traubenfuchs 4y agoIt’s just a meaningless word used to garnish woke word puke.
- visarga 4y agoImagination augmentation, and like human imagination, it is uncensored.
- Serenacula 4y agoTo be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to see some real restriction.
- Reason077 4y agoPorn actors may feel differently if it’s their jobs/livelihoods at stake.
- xiphias2 4y agoMost porn actors are young girls doing it a few times (as they are required to do more extreme things to stay relevant) and being seen forever. They also don't think about how easy it will be to identify them in the future as face recognition/matching gets even cheaper.
- everyone 4y agoI'm wondering is "being seen forever" as big of a deal as it used to be? If you have nudes somewhere on the internet does anyone actually give a shit?
- xiphias2 4y agoNudes and porn are very different things. Also the answer is yes, there are people who actually give a shit about who they marry / date / hire for work
- paulryanrogers 4y ago> there are people who actually give a shit about who they marry / date / hire for work So are those who are not offended that their employee did some nude modeling or sex work are... careless or inconsiderate in some way? Should hiring or dating include some kind of background check based on puritanical definitions of "moral character"? Perhaps people who think that way should wear some kind of scarlet letter. That way I can be sure they'll never be involved in my hiring pipeline.
- xiphias2 4y ago,,putting women in the porn industry out of a job'' Sounds like a great thing. The industry is getting 18 year old women who don't have experience in managing money to sell their body for a few thousand dollars to be shown forever, then their porn value drops dramatically fast.
- hungryforcodes 4y agoSounds like you have direct experience here.
- xiphias2 4y agoThere was a Netflix documentary about it
- hungryforcodes 4y agoKey words: "direct experience".
- smartbit 4y agoThis one https://www.netflix.com/title/80038162 https://www.netflix.com/title/80038162 ?
- hungryforcodes 4y agoYou're aware that it is no longer 1995 and that women are streaming themselves live all over the web in interactive channels. Also "Only Fans". Who's getting exploited here-- you or them??
- tennisflyi 4y agoGo to any agency and their average model age is older than you think. > https://hussiemodels.com/ https://hussiemodels.com/ (NSFW) Age | Number 18 | 0 19 | 6 20 | 6 21 | 10 22 | 11 23 | 8 24 | 3 25 | 4 26 | 1 27 | 1 28 | 2 29 | 3 30+ | 9 An average of around 24... From a quick sample.
- meghan_rain 4y agoI am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was... wow... the experience was overwhelming. The girls were literal 10/10 perfections, you would never be able to find humans like that, even among world-class supermodels. They had these very pretty and also very characteristic faces, I have never seen anything like this in reality. But that's not the scary part. The scary part was that since this was custom-made by an artist just for me, it contained exactly my fetishes. In real life, it would be much harder to find 10/10 models doing my fetishes (simply because there are not many 10/10s around, let alone doing porn, and there is a lot of fetishes). In combination, it was a profound feeling of extasy, I have never experienced something like this before. I am very worried tbh. Currently, it took a couple hundred dollars and a week to generate that porn, because the artist has to work with special models and do a lot of manual iterations, inpainting, etc, before it becomes even passable, and then even more iterations to make it almost flawless. But I think it's only a matter of time before this becomes automated. And then I'll probably overdose and fry my brains out during a never ending binge on random-seed generated, precison-engineered, personalized dopamine bombs.
- Muromec 4y agoIn near future we will all work for AI and AI will pay us in custom-generated porn.
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- TheOtherHobbes 4y agoThat's exactly the problem. Without regulation and oversight, AI will inevitably become perceptual crack for the entire human species.
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- sebosp 4y agoI'm gonna ask something awful, but isn't this the end of child porn? It's sad but isn't it the least painful option? I wish it would then lead the people that need mental health to a professional, hell, couldn't we engineer an ai that progressively guides their misguided patterns to an acceptable level? (assuming such a thing exists)
- IIAOPSW 4y agoThat's not awful at all its just a topic that makes people queasy, and an outcome which blueballs those who are into hating pedos first and protecting children as an afterthought.
- elorant 4y agoIt’s not awful because it has been addressed before. Sure, if you can create child porn at your demand there’s no reason to go look for the real thing, at least in theory. There are a couple of problems though. How would the model be trained? It has to process child faces. This is a huge red flag by itself. The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn. If it becomes so easy to access who can tell how many more will find it attractive. And then you’ll end up with a much bigger problem than the one you had when started.
- ramblerman 4y ago> The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn Would you similarly argue gay porn is likely to make more people gay?
- elorant 4y agoNot gay per se, more like bisexuals.
- archon1410 4y agoI think many people would agree to that sentiment. Anecdotally, the number of people who identify as gay or bisexual and/or are interested in same-sex sex has only increased tremendously as the amount of gay pornography has increased. Arguably much of it only due to destigmatisation and legislation. But even then it only seems obvious that many people who would otherwise have lived "straight lives" have been "introduced" to homosexuality due to gay porn, as the number of "this makes me question my sexuality" comments under various gay-erotic content show.
- IIAOPSW 4y agoGPTina's onlyfans.
- coffeeblack 4y agoOnlyGPT. GPTfans. Whoever operates it can keep all the simp payments and doesn’t need to share with the sex workers. Just needs an LLM that tells the simps how funny and special they are.
- quikoa 4y agohttps://archive.is/IYogN https://archive.is/IYogN
- iExploder 4y agomoderation was never as important as it will be in the new "AI age" of generated content There should be a mechanism to make sure people dont dive into a rabbit hole and get stuck on whatever type of generated content they want to consume (whether that is porn, conspiration theories, or opinionated content)
- nailer 4y agoClickbait article. Direct link to Discord: https://top.gg/servers/1010980909568245801 https://top.gg/servers/1010980909568245801
- zone411 4y agoNote that this article is from four months ago. Their Patreon and Kickstarter have been suspended but they collected money on their website and they will first focus on making yet another anime model. The big news in the Stable Diffusion land has been the release of ControlNet: https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet. It hasn't gotten much traction on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34761780 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34761780. It allows you to maintain the shape of existing images (or sketch new ones) and use Stable Diffusion to fill them out, my example: https://twitter.com/LechMazur/status/1626668677473918981 https://twitter.com/LechMazur/status/1626668677473918981.
- rajnathani 4y agoMinor: Add (2022)
- valdiorn 4y agoI just absolutely fail to see the issue with CGI porn, even of the underage variety (because let's face it, that's all anyone is going to care about when it comes to banning it). Trying to argue that fake pictures of non existent kids doing bad shit is somehow "child porn" is about as dumb as saying Saw (the movie) is an actual snuff film. Is it vulgar and offensive - of course. Is it child porn - no, because the person in the picture does not exist.
- raspyberr 4y agoHow do you train a model to produce pictures of children?
- jacknews 4y ago'raking in' ... $2500/month. I mean it's not exactly pornhub-group numbers, who do actually 'monetize' content they don't quite own.
- czottmann 4y agoI fear the day when I realize I can only be aroused by pictures of artificia-ladies with 7.5 or more fingers on each hand and an ever-changing amount of nipples.
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago<Laughs in e621>
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