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The Montana Governor was briefed at The White House about this tonight https://mobile.twitter.com/GovGianforte/status/1624596970491854850 https://mobile.twitte

The Montana Governor was briefed at The White House about this tonight https://mobile.twitter.com/GovGianforte/status/1624596970491854850 https://mobile.twitter.com/GovGianforte/status/1624596970491... >I received a briefing tonight at the White House about an object in Montana airspace. I will continue to receive regular updates. >With questions about the Chinese spy balloon still unanswered, the Biden administration must be fully forthcoming with Montanans and all Americans. One of Montana's house reps said: >I am in direct contact with NORCOM and monitoring the latest issue over Havre and the northern border. Airspace is closed due to an object that could interfere with commercial air traffic — the DOD will resume efforts to observe and ground the object in the morning. https://twitter.com/RepRosendale/status/1624579901608034306 https://twitter.com/RepRosendale/status/1624579901608034306 Something is definitely happening. We shot down an object over Alaska yesterday, and then again today we shot down yet another object over Canada. That's three objects shot down in about a week, whereas the last time we shot anything down over US airspace was arguably during WW2.

whamlastxmas 4y ago
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golemotron 4y ago
Did the Governor of Montana just happen to be in DC or was he summoned there?
- thepasswordis 4y ago
  He was in Washington, D.C. for the National Governors Association Winter meetup: https://mobile.twitter.com/NatlGovsAssoc/status/1624473506158112771 https://mobile.twitter.com/NatlGovsAssoc/status/162447350615...
- nradov 4y ago
  Technically the federal government has no legal authority to "summon" state governors. All they can do is request and invite.
- dboreham 4y ago
  Fun fact: governor of Montana used to run a software company, so perhaps he's reading this.
  - rocketpastsix 4y ago
    he also body slammed a reporter, so lets not give him too much credit
    - tekknik 4y ago
      given the rhetoric coming out of some reporters mouths/hands i’m surprised we don’t see more attacks
wolverine876 4y ago
> Something is definitely happening. A social media misinformation storm?
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- 65a 4y ago
  What is the misinformation?
  - krapp 4y ago
    We know there is misinformation, because social media and mainstream media are well established at this point as platforms for disinformation, propaganda and psychological operations by various interests. We can (and should) assume for the sake of argument that we're being lied to about something, the only open questions are what about, by whom and to what end.
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    - wolverine876 4y ago
      The issue is not that you are being lied to, but that you are spreading lies.
  - ttyprintk 4y ago
    China has labeled the multitude of balloons as US-Japan misinformation. I haven’t heard a denial, though.
- spacephysics 4y ago
  What’s misinformation about this? Honest question, I think the facts aren’t misinformation, that the US has shot down foreign aerial objects.
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auctoritas 4y ago
The government and military must be more forthcoming with information here. This is generally the case but especially so now. If these are balloons with unclear origin and purpose, be open and honest about that. Don't just let information trickle out from random sources. Establish a single and authoritative line of communication. Failing to get ahead of the narrative gives the appearance of uncertainty and confusion.
- ProAm 4y ago
  > The government and military must be more forthcoming with information here. No, we do not need need social media arm chair quarterbacks dealing with national defense based issues.... > Establish a single and authoritative line of communication. None of this affect most citizens they have no need to be informed unless necessary. > Failing to get ahead of the narrative gives the appearance of uncertainty and confusion. Politics in war time is always messy. Lets let them focus on the task at hand.
  - bboygravity 4y ago
    > Politics in war time is always messy. Lets let them focus on the task at hand. Or: without "messy" politics (political censorship and manipulation of the people) you can't have wars.
    - ProAm 4y ago
      In an ideal world absolutely. But war and violence is foundational bedrock of humanity, it will never go away.
      - tommica 4y ago
        In that case, maybe humans should go away then
  - ahtihn 4y ago
    > None of this affect most citizens they have no need to be informed unless necessary. It's always necessary to keep citizens informed. The government and by extension the military exists to serve citizens.
uoaei 4y ago
Based on some unconfirmed Twitter videos that claimed to be of the sky above Montana, it may have been something travelling in the upper atmosphere or even space that may have been destroyed or broken up at altitude. https://twitter.com/0rangeandwhite/status/1624600726562390017 https://twitter.com/0rangeandwhite/status/162460072656239001... Interestingly, none of the reports state that the US or allies engaged or shot down the object.
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paganel 4y ago
> Something is definitely happening. We shot down an object over Alaska yesterday, A balloon invasion, looks like it. On a slightly more serious note, I had read yesterday somewhere on Twitter that that thing over Alaska might in fact have been a US meteorological balloon, which would explain the Americans not accusing the Chinese again after they had shot it.
JCM9 4y ago
You’re missing one of the key strategic reasons… that it was a huge embarrassment to China on the international stage.
- nix23 4y ago
  Was it? Because a -->balloon<-- was already over US mainland. I would say the embarrassment is on US side for not shooting/detecting it down much earlier.
  - wil421 4y ago
    Why? They said in the beginning they didn’t want to shoot until it was off the coast. Biden planned shooting it down once it was off the coast again. It was planned days in advance and I’m not why they would risk hurting someone. IMHO a death would cause much more media outrage.
    - nix23 4y ago
      Shooting it down when it enter us-waters? You know before it entered land? >IMHO a death would cause much more media outrage. Perfect! Chinese-killer-balloon kills US-Citizen on it's on US-Ground, FOX would love that!
      - wil421 4y ago
        Not sure what you mean. The first one had already passed Alaska and a good part of Canada before it was picked up by the news. Meaning it been over land for a good amount of time.
        nix23 4y ago
        >Meaning it been over land for a good amount of time. That's what i mean. Why not shoot it down when it enters US-Waters...BEFORE it's over US-Land, is that so hard to understand?

whamlastxmas 4y ago

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golemotron 4y ago

Did the Governor of Montana just happen to be in DC or was he summoned there?

thepasswordis 4y ago
He was in Washington, D.C. for the National Governors Association Winter meetup: https://mobile.twitter.com/NatlGovsAssoc/status/1624473506158112771 https://mobile.twitter.com/NatlGovsAssoc/status/162447350615...
nradov 4y ago
Technically the federal government has no legal authority to "summon" state governors. All they can do is request and invite.
dboreham 4y ago
Fun fact: governor of Montana used to run a software company, so perhaps he's reading this.
- rocketpastsix 4y ago
  he also body slammed a reporter, so lets not give him too much credit
  - tekknik 4y ago
    given the rhetoric coming out of some reporters mouths/hands i’m surprised we don’t see more attacks

wolverine876 4y ago

> Something is definitely happening. A social media misinformation storm?

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65a 4y ago
What is the misinformation?
- krapp 4y ago
  We know there is misinformation, because social media and mainstream media are well established at this point as platforms for disinformation, propaganda and psychological operations by various interests. We can (and should) assume for the sake of argument that we're being lied to about something, the only open questions are what about, by whom and to what end.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - wolverine876 4y ago
    The issue is not that you are being lied to, but that you are spreading lies.
- ttyprintk 4y ago
  China has labeled the multitude of balloons as US-Japan misinformation. I haven’t heard a denial, though.
spacephysics 4y ago
What’s misinformation about this? Honest question, I think the facts aren’t misinformation, that the US has shot down foreign aerial objects.
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auctoritas 4y ago

The government and military must be more forthcoming with information here. This is generally the case but especially so now. If these are balloons with unclear origin and purpose, be open and honest about that. Don't just let information trickle out from random sources. Establish a single and authoritative line of communication. Failing to get ahead of the narrative gives the appearance of uncertainty and confusion.

ProAm 4y ago
> The government and military must be more forthcoming with information here. No, we do not need need social media arm chair quarterbacks dealing with national defense based issues.... > Establish a single and authoritative line of communication. None of this affect most citizens they have no need to be informed unless necessary. > Failing to get ahead of the narrative gives the appearance of uncertainty and confusion. Politics in war time is always messy. Lets let them focus on the task at hand.
- bboygravity 4y ago
  > Politics in war time is always messy. Lets let them focus on the task at hand. Or: without "messy" politics (political censorship and manipulation of the people) you can't have wars.
  - ProAm 4y ago
    In an ideal world absolutely. But war and violence is foundational bedrock of humanity, it will never go away.
    - tommica 4y ago
      In that case, maybe humans should go away then
- ahtihn 4y ago
  > None of this affect most citizens they have no need to be informed unless necessary. It's always necessary to keep citizens informed. The government and by extension the military exists to serve citizens.

uoaei 4y ago

Based on some unconfirmed Twitter videos that claimed to be of the sky above Montana, it may have been something travelling in the upper atmosphere or even space that may have been destroyed or broken up at altitude. https://twitter.com/0rangeandwhite/status/1624600726562390017 https://twitter.com/0rangeandwhite/status/162460072656239001... Interestingly, none of the reports state that the US or allies engaged or shot down the object.

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paganel 4y ago

> Something is definitely happening. We shot down an object over Alaska yesterday, A balloon invasion, looks like it. On a slightly more serious note, I had read yesterday somewhere on Twitter that that thing over Alaska might in fact have been a US meteorological balloon, which would explain the Americans not accusing the Chinese again after they had shot it.

JCM9 4y ago

You’re missing one of the key strategic reasons… that it was a huge embarrassment to China on the international stage.

nix23 4y ago
Was it? Because a -->balloon<-- was already over US mainland. I would say the embarrassment is on US side for not shooting/detecting it down much earlier.
- wil421 4y ago
  Why? They said in the beginning they didn’t want to shoot until it was off the coast. Biden planned shooting it down once it was off the coast again. It was planned days in advance and I’m not why they would risk hurting someone. IMHO a death would cause much more media outrage.
  - nix23 4y ago
    Shooting it down when it enter us-waters? You know before it entered land? >IMHO a death would cause much more media outrage. Perfect! Chinese-killer-balloon kills US-Citizen on it's on US-Ground, FOX would love that!
    - wil421 4y ago
      Not sure what you mean. The first one had already passed Alaska and a good part of Canada before it was picked up by the news. Meaning it been over land for a good amount of time.
      - nix23 4y ago
        >Meaning it been over land for a good amount of time. That's what i mean. Why not shoot it down when it enters US-Waters...BEFORE it's over US-Land, is that so hard to understand?