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As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died o

As someone with only 1 eye, this is quite suited to me! I am actually sad that the previous crop of "low cost, slim, not earth shattering" AR glasses all died out. A camera built into one stem and some simple text displayed for one eye would suffice for a ton of use cases. A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. I'd love to see what this looks like actually installed on glasses, in different configurations. Some simple AR use cases that I'd like to see: ] * Turn by turn directions * Incoming high priority notifications * Weather alerts * Front door notifications * Upcoming meetings * Interior building navigation * Shopping Lists (hard to do the interactions on this) The issue here is none of these are a killer feature, so I wouldn't be willing to pay more than a small premium to have them added on top of what I normally pay for frames, but since I already am paying $300-$500 for frames (before insurance), if someone offers the above for another $100 or $150, sure why not.

dopidopHN 4y ago
Fun; I would just want to plug it to various device though MQTT and do trippy display.
rodolphoarruda 4y ago
As a father of a kid with 1,5 eye -- my daughter's left eye stopped developing at young age so we missed the window of opportunity to have it corrected on time, so one eye does most of the heavy lifting for her, and the other eye can only see a blur -- your comment made me think of possible use cases for the monocle for her. Maybe notifications using colors and shapes that could be perceived by the underdeveloped eye. I believe the signals from the monocle would not interfere in any way with the good eye, so from a brain's perspective, both things could coexist independently. And, as you suggested, it could well be a "clip-on" addition to the frame itself. That would be nice.
dylan604 4y ago
>Shopping Lists (hard to do the interactions on this) with a companion app, you could scan the barcodes of the items as you place them in the cart, and then remove the item from the visible list in the AR HUD. shit, tie that into the actual store's check out system so you don't have to use their stupid POS self-checkout lines. just bag it up and be on your way. other than the products that are sold by weight, this seems like something we're missing out on as a species.
- post-it 4y ago
  Even better, the device can have a camera that watches you put the item in your cart and marks it off the list.
  - canucker2016 4y ago
    Or it checks prices/inventory at other stores and lets you defer purchases to other stores to reduce how much you spend.
- FinnKuhn 4y ago
  This already exists. One example would be Ikea Scan & Go.
  - trynewideas 4y ago
    Hell, there are like two dozen fully autonomous Żabka convenience stores in Poland that do this. Unlocks the door for entry, identifies the items you pick up by CV, pays for them automatically without interaction, and unlocks the door for exit. No app or phone necessary, no cashier or staff, no checkout. You just pick the thing up and leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_-Na63kUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_-Na63kUY, https://youtu.be/ZMVbwVpBkKc?t=115 https://youtu.be/ZMVbwVpBkKc?t=115 for the tech
vsareto 4y ago
>* Turn by turn directions I wouldn't touch any kind of AR use case while driving. Seems ripe for lawsuits when you're obscuring a driver's view (especially with an eyepiece compared to putting a HUD on the windshield)
- criddell 4y ago
  Once head tracking is working, couldn't you show the AR view in the exact same place that a windshield HUD would appear?
  - fatnoah 4y ago
    Yes, yes you could.
  - vsareto 4y ago
    The easiest way for that is to have the user set that position to account for the car model, driver height, and seat position, but you're not likely to find a way to pick a good safe spot to show it without asking the user. But if you say this is safe to use while driving, you need to handle situations where "this AR app had a bug which drew a solid color over the entire view, obstructing my view, and caused me to miss the pedestrian", while a projected HUD has a limited area it can draw on. If you can't/won't say it's safe to use while driving, then why develop the feature for driving? This being an eye piece which has software control over your entire field of view has potential for danger. Then you will have to make sure all of that doesn't replicate these results from the out set: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/07/heads-up-displays-in-cars-can-hinder-driver-safety/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/07/heads-up-displays-in-ca...
- giancarlostoro 4y ago
  It could work for walking though.
- com2kid 4y ago
  > I wouldn't touch any kind of AR use case while driving. Seems ripe for lawsuits when you're obscuring a driver's view (especially with an eyepiece compared to putting a HUD on the windshield) Cities, walking. :) Walking around a city pulling out my phone to check directions is actively stupid, a HUD with arrows telling me what intersection to go down would improve safety on multiple fronts. (Theft and not situational awareness).
atomicUpdate 4y ago
> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant_do_in_your_application https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifying anyone other than the user, including use cases such as facial recognition and voice print. Glassware that do this will not be approved at this time. This is in response to Congress raising Privacy concerns: https://slate.com/technology/2013/05/google-glass-facial-recognition-congress-writes-letter-asking-privacy-questions.html https://slate.com/technology/2013/05/google-glass-facial-rec... I wouldn't expect any "official" facial recognition on any of these upcoming AR devices any time soon.
- once_inc 4y ago
  Pretty wild for congress to raise privacy concerns, considering the ungodly amount of data they harvest every day on both their own citizens and those of other countries across a variety of mediums, agencies, and subsidiaries...
- fatnoah 4y ago
  > > A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. Which is too bad, since I see AR as potentially being a massively useful device for those with memory issues, dementia, or who generally need some help with things like this.
  - daanlo 4y ago
    The dystopian use case of this is: See the name of someone + how they voted last time. Then you can „engage“ them to convince them of your „truth“.
  - joshspankit 4y ago
    As someone who has struggled with names and dates and times my whole life, that is the single use that I was interested in.
jayd16 4y ago
I think these are actually kind of lame use cases. They can almost entirely be replaced with a smart watch. Where this device has a unique advantage is overlay AR. Turn by turn is somewhat there but I think a better way to look at this is passive information. You could walk by a business and see hours on a virtual sign. You could make an app to leave virtual art you could stumble on. I'd like to see more ideas like that. Just a new way to show notifications doesn't cut it for me.
- com2kid 4y ago
  > You could walk by a business and see hours on a virtual sign. Most stores have those posted already. :-D > They can almost entirely be replaced with a smart watch. Agreed, unfortunately current smart watches are tasked with doing a lot, and as a result they are not very good at blending into the background of life. I'd also love a life logger, being able to see snapshots of my day and quickly create journal entries. An automatic record of everyone I talked to, summaries of important conversations. Human potential could be greatly expanded with current day technology but sadly we are limiting ourselves.
  - jayd16 4y ago
    >Most stores have those posted already. :-D Ok but it could be 3rd party data instead. It could be live open seating data, etc etc.
    - thaeli 4y ago
      Or, hear me out.. it could be _targeted advertisements._ /s Seriously though, I'd love to have a wearable adblock. Detect anything that resembles an ad, blank it out. Obviously not while you're doing anything safety critical, but most of the time - good trade.
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago
  Fix practically anything that instructions have been made for, unscrew here, unclip that, pull out that, replace this part; do it all backwards to put back together ... with visual overlays you're acting as a robot almost (that's good and bad). Also, anything the AR can see you put down/drop can be remembered; anything you're looking for can be highlighted (in theory). Would be fun to work on some other ideas.
fatnoah 4y ago
> Turn by turn directions > Interior building navigation Disclosure: I worked at one of the companies spending big on AR and worked on these exact use cases. Sadly, the company was not excited by these cases in the short term, so the projects were effectively cancelled. I fully expect them to be revived at some point, but not any time soon.
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major505 4y ago
Im blind in one eye also, and was thinking the same. But would certainly preffer the lenss to be a litle smaller. But for a first version, seens to have some potential.
lucasgonze 4y ago
Good list. I'd also find an HUD display like this useful for playing music: - lyrics - chord changes - a visual metronome
lancesells 4y ago
A killer app for me would be to make all the windows in my apartment seem larger. Scenery can stay the same just make them 1.3x the size.
ornornor 4y ago
To add to this, I’d love real life real-time ad blocking. All billboards either blacked out or replaced with kitten pictures or master paintings.

dopidopHN 4y ago

Fun; I would just want to plug it to various device though MQTT and do trippy display.

rodolphoarruda 4y ago

As a father of a kid with 1,5 eye -- my daughter's left eye stopped developing at young age so we missed the window of opportunity to have it corrected on time, so one eye does most of the heavy lifting for her, and the other eye can only see a blur -- your comment made me think of possible use cases for the monocle for her. Maybe notifications using colors and shapes that could be perceived by the underdeveloped eye. I believe the signals from the monocle would not interfere in any way with the good eye, so from a brain's perspective, both things could coexist independently. And, as you suggested, it could well be a "clip-on" addition to the frame itself. That would be nice.

dylan604 4y ago

>Shopping Lists (hard to do the interactions on this) with a companion app, you could scan the barcodes of the items as you place them in the cart, and then remove the item from the visible list in the AR HUD. shit, tie that into the actual store's check out system so you don't have to use their stupid POS self-checkout lines. just bag it up and be on your way. other than the products that are sold by weight, this seems like something we're missing out on as a species.

post-it 4y ago
Even better, the device can have a camera that watches you put the item in your cart and marks it off the list.
- canucker2016 4y ago
  Or it checks prices/inventory at other stores and lets you defer purchases to other stores to reduce how much you spend.
FinnKuhn 4y ago
This already exists. One example would be Ikea Scan & Go.
- trynewideas 4y ago
  Hell, there are like two dozen fully autonomous Żabka convenience stores in Poland that do this. Unlocks the door for entry, identifies the items you pick up by CV, pays for them automatically without interaction, and unlocks the door for exit. No app or phone necessary, no cashier or staff, no checkout. You just pick the thing up and leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_-Na63kUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_-Na63kUY, https://youtu.be/ZMVbwVpBkKc?t=115 https://youtu.be/ZMVbwVpBkKc?t=115 for the tech

vsareto 4y ago

>* Turn by turn directions I wouldn't touch any kind of AR use case while driving. Seems ripe for lawsuits when you're obscuring a driver's view (especially with an eyepiece compared to putting a HUD on the windshield)

criddell 4y ago
Once head tracking is working, couldn't you show the AR view in the exact same place that a windshield HUD would appear?
- fatnoah 4y ago
  Yes, yes you could.
- vsareto 4y ago
  The easiest way for that is to have the user set that position to account for the car model, driver height, and seat position, but you're not likely to find a way to pick a good safe spot to show it without asking the user. But if you say this is safe to use while driving, you need to handle situations where "this AR app had a bug which drew a solid color over the entire view, obstructing my view, and caused me to miss the pedestrian", while a projected HUD has a limited area it can draw on. If you can't/won't say it's safe to use while driving, then why develop the feature for driving? This being an eye piece which has software control over your entire field of view has potential for danger. Then you will have to make sure all of that doesn't replicate these results from the out set: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/07/heads-up-displays-in-cars-can-hinder-driver-safety/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/07/heads-up-displays-in-ca...
giancarlostoro 4y ago
It could work for walking though.
com2kid 4y ago
> I wouldn't touch any kind of AR use case while driving. Seems ripe for lawsuits when you're obscuring a driver's view (especially with an eyepiece compared to putting a HUD on the windshield) Cities, walking. :) Walking around a city pulling out my phone to check directions is actively stupid, a HUD with arrows telling me what intersection to go down would improve safety on multiple fronts. (Theft and not situational awareness).

atomicUpdate 4y ago

> A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. This is a societal issue, more than a HW/SW issue. Google Glass explicitly bans this type of feature: https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant_do_in_your_application https://developers.google.com/glass/policies#c_what_you_cant... > Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifying anyone other than the user, including use cases such as facial recognition and voice print. Glassware that do this will not be approved at this time. This is in response to Congress raising Privacy concerns: https://slate.com/technology/2013/05/google-glass-facial-recognition-congress-writes-letter-asking-privacy-questions.html https://slate.com/technology/2013/05/google-glass-facial-rec... I wouldn't expect any "official" facial recognition on any of these upcoming AR devices any time soon.

once_inc 4y ago
Pretty wild for congress to raise privacy concerns, considering the ungodly amount of data they harvest every day on both their own citizens and those of other countries across a variety of mediums, agencies, and subsidiaries...
fatnoah 4y ago
> > A killer app for me would be floating name tags above people's heads, but I imagine that would require better HW than what is available here. Which is too bad, since I see AR as potentially being a massively useful device for those with memory issues, dementia, or who generally need some help with things like this.
- daanlo 4y ago
  The dystopian use case of this is: See the name of someone + how they voted last time. Then you can „engage“ them to convince them of your „truth“.
- joshspankit 4y ago
  As someone who has struggled with names and dates and times my whole life, that is the single use that I was interested in.

jayd16 4y ago

I think these are actually kind of lame use cases. They can almost entirely be replaced with a smart watch. Where this device has a unique advantage is overlay AR. Turn by turn is somewhat there but I think a better way to look at this is passive information. You could walk by a business and see hours on a virtual sign. You could make an app to leave virtual art you could stumble on. I'd like to see more ideas like that. Just a new way to show notifications doesn't cut it for me.

com2kid 4y ago
> You could walk by a business and see hours on a virtual sign. Most stores have those posted already. :-D > They can almost entirely be replaced with a smart watch. Agreed, unfortunately current smart watches are tasked with doing a lot, and as a result they are not very good at blending into the background of life. I'd also love a life logger, being able to see snapshots of my day and quickly create journal entries. An automatic record of everyone I talked to, summaries of important conversations. Human potential could be greatly expanded with current day technology but sadly we are limiting ourselves.
- jayd16 4y ago
  >Most stores have those posted already. :-D Ok but it could be 3rd party data instead. It could be live open seating data, etc etc.
  - thaeli 4y ago
    Or, hear me out.. it could be _targeted advertisements._ /s Seriously though, I'd love to have a wearable adblock. Detect anything that resembles an ad, blank it out. Obviously not while you're doing anything safety critical, but most of the time - good trade.
pbhjpbhj 4y ago
Fix practically anything that instructions have been made for, unscrew here, unclip that, pull out that, replace this part; do it all backwards to put back together ... with visual overlays you're acting as a robot almost (that's good and bad). Also, anything the AR can see you put down/drop can be remembered; anything you're looking for can be highlighted (in theory). Would be fun to work on some other ideas.

fatnoah 4y ago

> Turn by turn directions > Interior building navigation Disclosure: I worked at one of the companies spending big on AR and worked on these exact use cases. Sadly, the company was not excited by these cases in the short term, so the projects were effectively cancelled. I fully expect them to be revived at some point, but not any time soon.

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major505 4y ago

Im blind in one eye also, and was thinking the same. But would certainly preffer the lenss to be a litle smaller. But for a first version, seens to have some potential.

lucasgonze 4y ago

Good list. I'd also find an HUD display like this useful for playing music: - lyrics - chord changes - a visual metronome

lancesells 4y ago

A killer app for me would be to make all the windows in my apartment seem larger. Scenery can stay the same just make them 1.3x the size.

ornornor 4y ago

To add to this, I’d love real life real-time ad blocking. All billboards either blacked out or replaced with kitten pictures or master paintings.