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These aren't really "from" the US companies. They're commodity parts that US & other Western companies design that are manufactured in Asia and sold around the
by treis 4y ago
These aren't really "from" the US companies. They're commodity parts that US & other Western companies design that are manufactured in Asia and sold around the world. The parts are used way too widely to be tracked in any meaningful way.
- PedroBatista 4y agoCan you provide the list of the actual parts?
- treis 4y agoCan't seem to find it with a brief google search. But a story like this came out ~6 months ago and the components were all off the shelf microprocessors, sensors, and similar electronics.
- capableweb 4y agoSeems like the article disagrees with you, do you have a more reliable source for what you're saying? > Of the 52 components Ukrainians removed from the Iranian Shahed-136 drone, 40 appear to have been manufactured by 13 different American companies, according to the assessment. > The remaining 12 components were manufactured by companies in Canada, Switzerland, Japan, Taiwan, and China, according to the assessment. > According to the Ukrainian assessment, among the US-made components found in the drone were nearly two dozen parts built by Texas Instruments, including microcontrollers, voltage regulators, and digital signal controllers; a GPS module by Hemisphere GNSS; a microprocessor by NXP USA Inc.; and circuit board components by Analog Devices and Onsemi. Also discovered were components built by International Rectifier – now owned by the German company Infineon – and the Swiss company U-Blox. So less than 12 of the components were manufactured in Asia, while 40 have been manufactured by US companies. The article also finishes by linking together components with US companies who seem (at a glance / without digging deeper) to manufacture said components within US borders.
- waihtis 4y agoI live in Finland, and Russians have been found looting electronics from the recycling centers over here, supposedly because they need the components back in the motherland. So theoretically they are also using western components but it is not like anyone actually sold these components to the russians.
- bbbbb5 4y agoThis is an obviously fake story. Similar to the consumer drone panic that's been going on in the Nordics. A few months ago all the Nordic medias seemed convinced that this guy with his "4 terabytes of encrypted data" must have been a Russian spy, of course that turned out to not be true. (Russia has satellites, the idea that they'd need people to go scout out Nordic infrastructure with consumer drones was and is preposterous) https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xgJ238/dronedoemt-russer-til-vg-rart-at-ingen-sa-stopp https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/xgJ238/dronedoemt-russer-til-vg-...
- mannerheim 4y agoExcept Russia has had spies do precisely that in the past in Estonia? They even did a prisoner exchange for a guy who got caught. > An unredacted five-page document tells a fuller story than anything Zinchenko offered in our four hours together. Vasily was one of three different handlers over the space of his eight years as a GRU agent. (Zinchenko would tell me only that Vasily introduced him to another man with whom he’d sometimes communicate.) He’d meet with each one face-to-face at liaisons in St. Petersburg, only a five-hour car or bus ride from Tallinn. Each handler tasked him with surveilling Estonia’s “objects of national defense” and its “vital services,” defined under Estonian law as critical infrastructure, power and electricity, telecommunications and banking services. > Zinchenko spied on Paldiski, a garrison town where Estonia’s elite Scouts Battalion, a veteran unit of both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, was stationed. He also spied on Vasalemma, where NATO’s Ämari Air Base is located. https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-ex-russian-spy-flees-to-the-nato-country-that-captured-him-delivering-another-embarrassing-blow-to-moscow-010049616.html https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-ex-russian-spy-flees-to-the...
- wildrhythms 4y agoThe article specifically says 'manufactured' by American companies; I'm not sure how the geographic location of the factory is relevant. >Of the 52 components Ukrainians removed from the Iranian Shahed-136 drone, 40 appear to have been manufactured by 13 different American companies, according to the assessment.
- pjc50 4y agoThey're "from" the US companies, but not directly. There's already issues with counterfeiting (you order TI parts and get something else); this is the reverse, where the parts are bought by some kind of "straw buyer" in a neutral country and then resold to Iran. It's tricky. It would require a huge amount of surveillance to prevent it from happening, or an even more aggressive physical blockade of Iran. And of course there's always the possibility of China->Russia->Iran shipment by air.
- Maursault 4y agoWas on national news broadcast last night. American company logos are on these parts. It's the chips they need, and I hope now they will be starved of them.