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Tesla’s Full Self-Driving is blamed for eight-car pileup in California
- tus666 4y agoFull self driving should not be a thing until all cars have it and are networked together.
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoThat just puts you in a position where a bug in someone else's implementation can crash your car.
- Grazester 4y agoHow's is that different from what happened though?
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoWell, all right, a bug in someone else's implementation can make your car the cause of the crash. (Though "cause" here means proximate cause rather than root cause.) Why does that matter? Because it's your insurance premiums that go up.
- verdverm 4y agoClickbait, the Tesla was at the front of the pileup, all drivers should always maintain sufficient distance should the vehicle in front need to make an emergency brake. The owner of the Tesla is blaming FSD / Autopilot, but there is no official report yet as to if it was actually active
- kadoban 4y ago> California Highway Patrol (CHP) reviewed tunnel footage and found that a Tesla made an unsafe lane change before abruptly slowing down from 55 mph to 20 mph You're wrong. You can't change lanes and jam your brakes, that's both illegal (if a human did it) and goes beyond unsafe.
- verdverm 4y agoWhat exactly did I say that was wrong? I think you are responding to something I did not say
- kadoban 4y ago> Clickbait, the Tesla was at the front of the pileup, all drivers should always maintain sufficient distance should the vehicle in front need to make an emergency brake. This is just plain wrong by implication. There is no safe distance for someone swerving into your lane and slamming on the breaks. There's nothing for the cars behind to fix, that's entirely the fault of the car in front.
- jacquesm 4y agoIndeed, besides brake-checking cars behind you is also illegal. There are some limits to 'the car behind is automatically at fault'.
- dekhn 4y agoHuman reaction time is about 250ms, so you can actually estimate the safe distance based on current velocity in normal circumstances. Since lane change/brake slamming is common in the bay area, I got used to it and generally drive super-cautiously in the situations that lead to it (lane speed differentials is a common cause).
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