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People and companies want to move to existing cities, not new planned cities that don't exist yet. Cities grow organically and not in a planned fashion. What

People and companies want to move to existing cities, not new planned cities that don't exist yet. Cities grow organically and not in a planned fashion. What is the definition of "overbuilt," anyway? There is no reason why SF couldn't be built to a high density in the same way that NYC is. You may not like it, and consider it "overbuilt" but there is no issue with the underlying infrastructure that couldn't be solved just like it was with NC.

olivermarks 4y ago
@fallingknife 'Cities grow organically and not in a planned fashion'. The reality is that both SF & London grew organically as port cities. There is no reason new cities can't grow organically around the new reality of people living and working anywhere. Access to airports and major road arteries are the only limitations...
nonethewiser 4y ago
And this is what happens when they grow organically. Why build a high rise apartment instead of 12 single family homes for 12 families?
- imtringued 4y ago
  That isn't the problem. The problem is that it is illegal to build the apartment building. That has nothing to do with organic growth.
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    It's illegal to build because people dont like that it disrupts the status quo which formed from organic growth. Either you build emptier high density units "inorganically" from the start or you build fuller low density units and then deal with it.
AlexTWithBeard 4y ago
You are right: nobody wants to go in the middle of desert and start building a new brave world there for nothing. With some proper incentives though it's doable. Nice parks. Low taxes. Decebt transportation infrastructure. Cheap housing. Good schools. Hey, Google, what can we do for you to move your Googleplex with 50k employees to out newly built Heaven on Earth, Oklahoma?
nradov 4y ago
Some parts of NYC such as Staten Island have similar density to SF. How much is enough? Most people prefer some space and privacy, and don't want to live in a skyscraper. They are going to vote accordingly.

olivermarks 4y ago

@fallingknife 'Cities grow organically and not in a planned fashion'. The reality is that both SF & London grew organically as port cities. There is no reason new cities can't grow organically around the new reality of people living and working anywhere. Access to airports and major road arteries are the only limitations...

nonethewiser 4y ago

And this is what happens when they grow organically. Why build a high rise apartment instead of 12 single family homes for 12 families?

imtringued 4y ago
That isn't the problem. The problem is that it is illegal to build the apartment building. That has nothing to do with organic growth.
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  It's illegal to build because people dont like that it disrupts the status quo which formed from organic growth. Either you build emptier high density units "inorganically" from the start or you build fuller low density units and then deal with it.

AlexTWithBeard 4y ago

You are right: nobody wants to go in the middle of desert and start building a new brave world there for nothing. With some proper incentives though it's doable. Nice parks. Low taxes. Decebt transportation infrastructure. Cheap housing. Good schools. Hey, Google, what can we do for you to move your Googleplex with 50k employees to out newly built Heaven on Earth, Oklahoma?

nradov 4y ago

Some parts of NYC such as Staten Island have similar density to SF. How much is enough? Most people prefer some space and privacy, and don't want to live in a skyscraper. They are going to vote accordingly.