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JxckSweeney suspended (ElonJet guy's personal account)
- minimaxir 4y agoThe other jet accounts run by the same person such as Jeff Bezos's jets (https://twitter.com/bezosjets https://twitter.com/bezosjets) and Mark Zuckerberg's jets (https://twitter.com/zuccjet https://twitter.com/zuccjet) were also suspended. I look very much toward what moderation rationale Elon will give for this. He's most likely trying to avoid bias by banning all the jet accounts so he doesn't look like a hypocrite by only banning his own jet account (as noted in the previous thread), in which case, it's way too late for that. EDIT: The official ban reason for the personal account suspension is violating rules "against platform manipulation and spam" (which, lol) https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1603118347716939776 https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1603118347716939776
- meepmorp 4y agoIt's weird to ban just the one account, then all the others several hours later. Really makes it look like Musk's personal reaction to criticism.
- te_chris 4y agoI mean just call it as it is: totally that. He’s so thin skinned and petty. He spent 44bil of various people’s money to do what, exactly? Apart from own the libs, that is
- Forgeties79 4y agoIt’s only taken what? Weeks? For him to show that the moderation policy wasn’t the problem. He just cared about whose finger was on the button.
- Teever 4y agoElon is a cokehead who just bought the biggest cartel. We're watching a horrible social media addiction rage out of control in a person who has too many resources and power for anyone to tell him 'no'. Elon was probably always a POS but on some level I feel bad for him like I feel bad for Notch. all that money, power, and opportunity and they can't help but to spend it all terminally online bickering with other terminally online people. People don't choose to be like this.
- api 4y agoI remember forum mod wars in the 2000s. Never thought there'd be billion dollar mod wars.
- Firmwarrior 4y agoI don't feel too bad for him If I got that first huge multimillion dollar payout he hit early in his career, I would've stopped there. I'd still just be quietly living in a modest house in a small town decades later His twisted, broken personality is what enabled him to become a billionaire in the first place
- SauciestGNU 4y agoDon't forget the birth lottery! I've lived in South Africa, and I've seen first-hand the human consequences of the policies that built his family wealth.
- wkat4242 4y agoI see a lot of parallels with Freenode. That was also running totally fine before a rich guy claimed ownership and started changing everything to his will, though the users were perfectly satisfied with how things were running till then. People started to leave which annoyed him and he started to make ever more rules and eventually deleted all the channels. Which means that reputable channels for open-source projects were now owned by randos who just happened to be the first to join after the reboot. Chaos ensued. The Twitter drama feels very similar. And that's not a good sign if we look at how Freenode played out. Freenode is now a fringe network. The previous management simply started a new network called Libera and two weeks later it was like the whole thing had never happened, just under a different name. Twitter is a lot bigger sure but big things can fall too. And they have for lesser reasons. Think Yahoo or MySpace. A lot of these owners seem to forget that the users are on their platform by free will. There is nothing tieing them down and it's only the tiny hassle of creating a new account that's a barrier to move.
- georgeg23 4y ago>> to do what, exactly? Elon's primary motivation, his 'Roko's Basilisk', is a massive DoD program, which requires Republicans to fund. Twitter helps him curry favors to earn these (potentially ~$1-2T) Republican-backed contracts. Mike Griffin is the ringleader but he's only useful when Republicans are in power (see parts about Elon and Space Development Agency / SDI). https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career The DoD program is a space constellation of ballistic missile defense satellites for tracking and targeting nuclear ballistic missiles, including HGVs and hypersonic cruise missiles".[110] " However, (UCS) warns developments could escalate tensions with Russia and China and called the project "fundamentally destabilizing".[111] They later called for a treaty halting development to prevent an arms race in space.[112] Starlink's military satellite development is overseen internally at SpaceX by retired four-star general Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy.[113][114] O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly.[115] More info / references: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_capabilities
- GekkePrutser 4y ago> O'Shaughnessy advocated before the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a layered space capability with lethal follow-on that incorporates machine learning and artificial intelligence to gather and act upon sensor data quickly So basically a doomsday machine. I understand the need for quick reaction but I really really would like to see a human in the chain to push the button. We've come way too close before like the Cuban crisis and Able Archer more specifically where all the data was screaming war but cool heads prevailed. Trust the world in the hands of an AI? Please no.
- Finnucane 4y ago>So basically a doomsday machine. The whole point of a doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret!
- mikrotikker 4y agoDid you hear about the twitter files? It shows some pretty serious election interference and also shows how various staff either lied directly to congress.
- alphabettsy 4y agoPretty serious, huh? I don’t think we read the same thing. Excusing the selective leaking and the motivated journalists who have access to the documents to present a narrative through their view, the conversations to me revealed careful consideration and discussion rather than the vast conspiracy it’s presented as.
- orwin 4y agoAs long as we only get one carefully currated version, i call bullshit. Don't you agree that the taibbi posts are extremely suspect? I thought the V2 would add context but its more of the same. I know plenty of accounts (and people) attacking the libs and advocating for action, one in particular active in RedneckRevolt, who were banned on way less hateful things (one helped find gunrange and explained how to make AP rounds). Reading about the internal mails of people at Twitter who chose to ban educational, pro-BPP accounts explaining to soft lefties why guns are good, and letting Proud boys and libsofticktocks who did the same without bans... Heh. If it was both side (right and left) against the libs, why not, but this feel like propping up one side only.
- paulpauper 4y agoHe saw he got criticism for singling out one account, and then to look consistent he banned the others. This is easier than reinstating the original one and admiting error.
- anttisalmela 4y agoWhy would Elon give any rationale?
- paulgb 4y agoFor one thing, because he specifically stated that he wouldn't ban the @elonjet account: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456?s=46&t=fOeYnV21W6lEFV0oV7oWYA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456?s=46...
- usefulcat 4y agoHe also previously said he wanted to buy Twitter, and made a legally binding agreement to do so, before changing his mind..
- paulgb 4y agoYes, he's not particularly consistent. Still, this was the account he held up as evidence that he was committed to free speech, because he refused to ban it even though he didn't like it. Now it’s banned.
- gnud_man 4y agoCould Elon give any rationale? Rationale of course depending on internal consistency and coherency. Elon's public persona seems to be a mess of contradictions with itself.
- bestcoder69 4y agoCould say he's banning x kind of bots, where he back-fills x to describe the jet account.
- d23 4y agoAt some point I think he'll move to just not even bothering explaining anything since he knows his fans will defend him. His justification could be literal gibberish, and his defenders would be resorting to the Kabbalah to try to translate it into something coherent.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoLooks like https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet is still up. Let's see how long that last. It feels to me like that's exactly it - he got called out and now he's banning others to make it seem like a blanket policy. As usual he's being impulsive and reactionary.
- minimaxir 4y agoThat's an offshoot: the correct account is https://twitter.com/GatesJet https://twitter.com/GatesJet which was indeed suspended.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoAh, ok, I saw the link on another comment here - I don't track the trackers.
- klyrs 4y agoA notable exception: https://twitter.com/gva_watcher https://twitter.com/gva_watcher
- thebradbain 4y agoEspecially because he specifically tweeted he would not ban it: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456?s=46&t=kYgGRDWhV7s_Mg1BB68USw https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456?s=46...
- Firmwarrior 4y agohaha, man. Friggin Elon couldn't keep it together for even a few weeks At this rate the site is eventually just going to turn into a slightly right wing version of the same swamp it was before edit: Easy there, lads. I'm not a hard-Leftist either. Just a Free Speech enjoyer
- cyberphobe 4y agoslightly?
- einpoklum 4y agoThe censorship never stopped. It was happening before Musk assumed his position, while he was getting settled in, and is continuing now. Twitter is a censorious platform, and its organizational and technical structure is very much conducive to this situation; nor could you reasonably expect someone like Mr. Musk to invest a lot of effort to change this.
- fsociety 4y agoThe difference is the censorship used to be in an attempt to stop direct harm. Now it is in an attempt to stop annoying a billionaire.
- einpoklum 4y agoNo, the censorship was not at all limited to "stopping direct harm". Unless you redefine harm as "what Twitter owners/management decide is harmful", in which case that's true by-definition. Classical case in point: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange https://twitter.com/JulianAssange
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- ssnistfajen 4y agoThe tracking bots were labelled as bots long ago. @elonjet's handle was also shadowbanned in Twitter search. The suspension reason is so weak it only reinforces Elon's hypocrisy.
- pfisherman 4y agoConspiracy theory time… Perhaps there is actually a credible threat on Elon’s life? Starlink is providing internet services to Ukraine. Elon has seemingly waded into US partisan politics and become a controversial figure. If someone told me that Vladimir Putin put a green light on him, I would not find it outside the realm of belief. But this is a total crackpot speculation for purposes of entertaining discussion on the internet.
- georgeg23 4y agoThey could just track him on the ElonJet on Facebook or Mastadon
- pfisherman 4y agoIs ElonJet on Vknotakte though?
- cyberphobe 4y agomore likely non-crackpot non-conspiracy: perhaps Elon is actually just this stupid.
- SXX 4y agoHow exactly would banning Twitter account re-posting publicly available information affect his safety? Yeah Russian secret service is incompetent, but they are certainly able to google for "elon musk jet tracker".
- mikrotikker 4y agoIncompetent? Did you sleep through all the novochok poisoning? You clearly are not paying attention to world events.
- ceejayoz 4y agoThose poisonings left 75% of victims alive, didn’t they? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/skripal-salisbury-poisoning-decline-of-russia-spy-agencies-gru https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/skripal-salisb... “The unmasking of the Salisbury poisoning suspects by a new digital journalism outfit was an embarrassment for Putin – and evidence that Russian spies are not what they once were.”
- erlich 4y agoSimple question: do you think people's location should tracked and publicized? The answer is always no. It's also against Twitter terms of service. It's called a wedge. You are being forced into criticizing him for doing something that you actually want him to be doing. Your only way out is to argue that doxing is okay for billionaires or something like that - which is basically saying "if I make enough money I think its okay to be personally harassed and doxed" - which is really tough to believe.
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- TigeriusKirk 4y agoI do agree that tracking people and publicizing their location against their will should be banned. This is clear and obvious to me. But, and this is a big but, Musk specifically used this account as an example of his commitment to free speech. So if Elon Musk gets splashback on this, there's no one to blame but Elon Musk.
- erlich 4y agoThe people criticizing him are not upset that he is not upholding free speech commitments though. They are the ones that don't want free speech. They want more moderation and want stricter rules and policies, and more safety. So here is a policy that everyone agrees with and increases safety on the platform. And they are not happy. It's such a funny situation. It really demonstrates how tribal everything is. No one deals with individual events and circumstances. If you look at all the comments, there is a finite number of ways to evaluate this situation...and its seems like no one evaluates it critically. You could predict what each person will say. In fact, maybe I will try this in ChatGPT.
- trs8080 4y ago> They are the ones that don't want free speech Content moderation and free speech are not mutually exclusive. Absolute free speech is not the only kind of free speech, nor is the definition of "free speech" the same globally. > So here is a policy that everyone agrees with and increases safety on the platform. And they are not happy. It's such a funny situation. Not upset, just confused that a free speech absolutist is banning people for exercising the version of free speech that he claims to be protecting.
- paulpauper 4y agothis semes like an example of overreacting on Elon's part. The reputational loss does not seem worth it
- reb 4y agoDoes this really seem like something that will cost him with the audience he's been courting in recent years? At this point I feel pretty confident they enjoy watching idols squash their "enemies" as much as they enjoy watching them role-play victimhood.
- nickthegreek 4y agoTesla stock isnt great... and I know several people who were excited for their next car to be Tesla's. One of them just bought the VW id.4. I have decided to hold off on my EV purchase (After test driving Tesla locally and loving them) for a few years and seeing what the other auto makers are putting out. Whatever car I do get, it will not be a Tesla.
- 323 4y agoBut it does. He sends a clear signal that criticism of him is not allowed. You will see that no-one with a significant following which applauded his recent "free-speech" actions will say a word about this. Just like in the mafia, the boundaries of what's allowed must be very clear and ruthlessly enforced.
- ALittleLight 4y agoThere is an immense amount of criticism of Musk on Twitter. Automation tweeting a celebrity's current location seems very different than "criticism".
- SXX 4y agoIf you are billionare and buy private jet you're obliged to share it's location by law. Dont want to share your current location? Dont use private jet.
- jjcm 4y agoLikely will be suspended for the same thing, since this account was also posting the internal screenshots. Still I suspect that this will be a Streisand effect and it will just amplify things more.
- minimaxir 4y ago> since this account was also posting the internal screenshots Elon hasn't banned journalists from posting leaked internal screenshots of Twitter's Slack. Yet.
- dmatech 4y agoThere'd be much more blowback for doing that. But showing stuff on Twitter that's leaked from Twitter and intended to influence Twitter is pretty dangerous.
- klyrs 4y agoHe's threatening leakers with lawsuits. Quite a departure from his promises of transparency... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/leaked-email-shows-musk-threatened-to-sue-twitter-employees-who-leak-to-media/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/leaked-email-sho...
- ceejayoz 4y agoHonestly, a lot about Elon's handling of Twitter bothers me, but this one doesn't; free speech and transparency never meant "leak company info to the press at will". I do find it hilarious that the email immediately leaked, though.
- klyrs 4y agoI challenge the premise. If twitter was being transparent, its policies would be published and there would be nothing to leak.
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- GavCo 4y agoYou can still keep track of Elon's jet if you're willing to venture on to Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/ https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/
- anamexis 4y agoAlso on Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@elonjet https://mastodon.social/@elonjet
- MonkeyMalarky 4y agoAccount was created today and his follower count has doubled since I last looked. Good job Elon! Keep those personally motivated bans coming!
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- GavCo 4y agoMy HN post of this was flagged, wonder why https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33989147 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33989147
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- braingenious 4y agoThis sort of stuff is so incredibly funny. It’s like a few years ago Elon Musk decided “I want to be Richard ‘Lowtax’ Kyanka!” and then did not keep track of what happened to that guy in recent history.
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- vegcel 4y agoElon Musk tweeted out a Weekly World News-tier conspiracy about Paul Pelosi. That's not moderately right of center - that's social media brain rot. I read that article and would personally be embarrassed to associate with any person who thought even for a second that article was credible.
- faefox 4y agoThere's nothing "moderately right-of-center" about the people and messages Elon has been amplifying and to suggest otherwise only embarrasses yourself.
- concordDance 4y agoSome are, some aren't. They range the American spectrum from somewhat leftist to pretty far right.
- bestcoder69 4y ago> somewhat leftist Where?
- concordDance 4y agoSlate Star Codex (which wrote pieces like this in defence of calling transwomen "women": https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-ma... ) and Wait But Why.
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- GavCo 4y agoTalk about Streisand effect: https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/14/elon-jet-the-twitter-account-tracking-elon-musks-flights-was-permanently-suspended/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/14/elon-jet-the-twitter-accou... https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/14/twitter-suspends-elonjet-account-that-tracks-elon-musks-private-jet-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/14/twitter-suspends-elonjet-acc... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/14/twitter-elon-musk-private-jet-account-suspended https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/14/twitter-e... https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/14/23508898/elonjet-twitter-ban-elon-musk-jet-tracker https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/14/23508898/elonjet-twitter... https://www.axios.com/2022/12/14/twitter-elon-musk-jet-tracker-account-suspended https://www.axios.com/2022/12/14/twitter-elon-musk-jet-track... https://nypost.com/2022/12/14/jet-tracking-teen-lashes-out-at-elon-musk-for-suspending-twitter-account/ https://nypost.com/2022/12/14/jet-tracking-teen-lashes-out-a... https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-tracking-elon-musks-private-jet-gets-suspended https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-tracking-elon-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-14/twitter-suspends-account-that-tracked-elon-musk-s-private-jet https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-14/twitter-s... https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-elonjet-banned-private-plane-tracker-1849891785 https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-elonjet-banned-private... https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspends-elon-jet-account-that-tracked-elon-musk-plane-rcna61718 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspe... https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/14/tech/elonjet-twitter-suspended/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/14/tech/elonjet-twitter-susp... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63978323 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63978323 https://www.engadget.com/twitter-elonjet-banned-suspended-elon-musk-private-jet-153132962.html https://www.engadget.com/twitter-elonjet-banned-suspended-el... https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-suspends-bot-account-tracking-elon-musks-jet-2022-12-14/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-suspends-bot-acco... https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/twitter-suspends-account-tracking-elon-musk-private-jet-1234647211/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/twitter-... https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-account-which-tracked-elon-musks-private-jet-is-suspended-12768020 https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-account-which-tracked-elo... https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/twitter-suspends-account-tracked-owner-elon-musks-jet-95226694 https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/twitter-suspends...
- folsom 4y agoAs much as I support someone having the right to be an asshole, if you come be an asshole at my house you can be damn sure that I will shut it down and you will have to find somewhere else to be an asshole. These things do not contradict and it does not make me a hypocrite.
- bestcoder69 4y agoUnless you go around saying "I'm going to buy this house and make it the house where we don't kick anyone out, unlike the looney left".
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoIf you say your house is a bastion of free speech and everyone is invited, it does in fact make you a hypocrite. And this REALLY does: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
- d23 4y agoI'm genuinely curious: are you not aware of his previous explicit promise to not ban the elonjet account?
- colordrops 4y agoIt's a contradiction if you told people they could say anything they want at your house as long as it's legal.
- yokoprime 4y agoIf you go: "I don't like what you're saying, but I will still allow you it in my house". Then a short while later you throw said person out because you don't like what they are saying. You are of course not in violation of any laws and it's your right to do so but trust just plummeted as we cannot belive anything you're saying.
- jjulius 4y ago>These things do not contradict and it does not make me a hypocrite. They sure don't! Unless, of course, you say, "Hey, you can be an asshole in my house," and then immediately kick them out for being the asshole you said they could be.
- ethagknight 4y agoI dont know about the personal account, but aren't these jet accounts bots? Isn't that exactly what Elon said he was going to do? It's possible that the personal account was tied via IPs to the bots.
- meepmorp 4y agoDeclared bot accounts are perfectly fine according to twitter's TOS
- vhold 4y agoFor reference: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-automation https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-autom...
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- function_seven 4y agohttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI honestly can't believe that is still up.
- ceejayoz 4y agoIt even has a "readers added additional context" note below it now, lol.
- nickthegreek 4y agoAgreed, once it goes down, I worry people will be saying that he never said that and any screenshots of it will be considered some sort of false flag operation by his followers.
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- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI didn't know you could stalk an object.
- bestcoder69 4y agoPublic records.
- googlryas 4y agoIt wouldn't be stalking, but widely disseminating even public records could easily be construed as doxxing, which is not accepted on most public, reputable forums.
- cinntaile 4y agoIt's a jet, not a person.
- googlryas 4y agoSo you wouldn't see a problem with someone publishing everywhere your car goes?
- cinntaile 4y agoThat's not a public record, so I fail to see how it's relevant.
- googlryas 4y agoYou drive your car around in public with identifying information on it, anyone can derive a record of its public movements if they were inclined. For example by just following you around on public roads and streaming it, like how paparazzi operate legally.
- cft 4y agough. I was cheering up this acquisition, but now I am done with Twitter.
- SXX 4y agoTwitter also blocked US Air Force trackers: https://twitter.com/USAirForceVIP https://twitter.com/USAirForceVIP https://twitter.com/AirForceTrack https://twitter.com/AirForceTrack It's now bannable to share where US officials are heading. And they also banned Putin Jet account: https://twitter.com/PutinJet https://twitter.com/PutinJet
- meepmorp 4y agoI bet we're witnessing a new Twitter policy being made up in real time
- SXX 4y agoYeah. Soon Twitter will be dead for OSINT. They banned almost every account using ADS-B: https://twitter.com/ruoligarchjets https://twitter.com/ruoligarchjets These Twitter accounts were very useful to track movements of Putin's cronies and spread the information. Now thanks to Elon this is no longer possible.
- toofy 4y agoto paraphrase what i said on the other thread, elon is telling us that, in a very real way, he understands how real world safety may be impacted by posts. it should concern us that he actively mocks and treats groups as hysterical or unreasonable when they ask for twitter to help mitigate even more immediate and very real threats on their safety. we know he understands why they ask twitter for help, but he mocks them. he obviously understands the real world implications, yet he escalates. this is actually concerning.
- jacquesm 4y agoWhat you are witnessing is the weaponization of social media.
- rlt 4y agoI’ve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I do believe free speech, even on commercial platforms, is an ideal worth upholding, but he’s making it really hard with actions like this. He says he wants Twitter to appeal to the 80% in the middle of the political spectrum, but he is obviously alienating larger and larger groups of people on the center and left.
- ssnistfajen 4y agoHe actively replies/likes accounts with right wing to far-right leanings. Most of these accounts aren't found or recommended unless the user actively looks for them. This says a lot about Elon and his so-called independent leaning.
- rlt 4y agoIt’s possible for him to personally be right-leaning and also fairly enforce apolitical rules on his platform, it just doesn’t seem like he’s doing it.
- nickthegreek 4y agoI dont think it is actually possible for him to do that. Other people sure, but nothing in Musks's past leads me to believe that he can or will apolitical enforce rules... which was his publicly stated reason for doing any of this. He has shown himself to be a liar, he continues to lie, there is no reason to believe he will stop lying.
- erlich 4y agoCome on dude. It's a plane tracking account. It's clearly against terms of service. It's not exactly an assault on free speech. > live location information, including information shared on Twitter directly or links to 3rd-party URL(s) of travel routes, actual physical location, or other identifying information that would reveal a person’s location, regardless if this information is publicly available; https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-info... Would you want someone to have an account tracking your location?
- wnevets 4y agoSo let me get this straight. COVID misinformation, QAnon conspiracy theories and general hatred to people different than yourself is ok on twitter but posting public FAA data is not?
- ssnistfajen 4y agoYou see, the former ones don't personally impact him while the latter slightly brushes against his ego, and for a self-proclaimed free speech absolutist that is apparently what finally crosses the line.
- dang 4y agoRelated ongoing threads: ElonJet Is Now Suspended - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33983878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33983878 - Dec 2022 (1116 comments) ElonJet – Account Suspended - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33981691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33981691 - Dec 2022 (385 comments)
- minimaxir 4y agoGranted, given the size of that thread, there's too much noise there for new pertinent information such as this submission, especially without the ability for new comments to surface easily.
- gronky_ 4y agoWhy have all these threads dropped so far down from the front page?
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- GaryNumanVevo 4y agoThe frontpage ranking algorithm is pretty simple (and open source). It just takes into account post age + votes with an exponential falloff over time. It doesn't take into account comments, so going to news.ycombinator.com/active is probably where you'll see the more active threads. https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-hacker-news-ranking-algorithm-works-1d9b0cf2c08d https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-hacker-news-ranking...
- monocasa 4y agoIt's deeper than that, stories with 'too much' engagement get auto down ranked. The open source code doesn't tell the whole story, as they leave bits out related to moderation.
- dang 4y agoA combination of user flags, software penalties, and moderation downweights. Re the mod aspect: we have nothing against this story in principle but the utter degradation of these threads into predictable, reflexive vitriol from (dare I say it) both sides is some of the most profoundly uncurious "conversation" (where by conversation I mean people snarking as loudly as they can and hating on others) that I've seen on HN. It's a disgrace and I feel ashamed. If it were up to me I'd send everyone to bed without supper, but there's nothing we can do besides downweight the worst that shows up here. We can't convince people of anything, such as the purpose of the site, the destructiveness of what they're doing, or to listen to each other. It's a lesson in human nature. The line from this to people clubbing each other (and I don't mean dancing together) seems continuous to me.
- jimjimjim 4y agoThey don't want the whipping to stop, they just want to be the ones holding the whip
- 323 4y agoAccount tracking Russian oligarch jets also suspended: https://twitter.com/RUOligarchJets https://twitter.com/RUOligarchJets
- mehphp 4y agoSomeone is rich enough to buy a social platform to suspend an account he doesn't like. That's crazy.
- bestcoder69 4y agoNow Twitter is blocking links to https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet ... unless you're a super-hacker and know how to add arbitrary query parameters to the end of the URL. Is this Hardcore Engineering?
- 0cf8612b2e1e 4y agoThis is just too perfect, I hope it enters the lexicon. Anytime I do a bone headed bug, it is hardcore engineering.
- aubanel 4y agoIt's the first time, out of all of Elon's enterprises (which I on the whole admire a lot), that I don't really see his added value in a business. Even the flamethrower thing was more net positive than his current work at Twitter seems to be.