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Ask HN: Why are some YC startups not posting salary ranges when law requires it?
I saw a few ads here for hiring over the last month for YC companies in NYC that did not post their salary range, and clicking through to the post on their portal the range was also nowhere to be found.
I can't comment on those posts, so I wasn't able to do any type of callout. I thought I remember being able to comment on them, but I think that functionality was removed ...
Why is this acceptable?
- conanbatt 4y agoThe real question is why HN is filled with people that have values completely orthogonal to the VC space, like people wanting to leverage the law to make other people do things.
- paulcole 4y ago> like people wanting to leverage the law to make other people do things. This is literally everyone in the world, including yourself unless you’re in favor of a lawless society.
- busterarm 4y agoBecause that's where culture is right now... Nowadays if you're in a professional organization, for example if you're a lawyer, people will make professional complaints against you for your first amendment speech, irrespective of your professional practice. Essentially filing fraudulent complaints to silence you. And they do so as an organized political activity. And sadly it's been hilariously effective so far.
- asdajksah2123 4y agoThere is no "first amendment speech" unless it's the government trying to suppress it.
- busterarm 4y agofirst amendment-protected speech. You don't give up your rights just because you practice a particular profession. If you say something that some people don't like, the first step in response shouldn't be them coming after your livelihood.
- solardev 4y agoTruthfully I wish HN were detached from the VC culture altogether. There's plenty of good tech discussion here that isn't related to founding companies. This whole idea that founders and capitalists contribute some special sauce to society and therefore shouldn't be regulated is some old fart libertarian Randian fantasy silliness and I'm glad it's being called out. That sort of thing just doesn't work in civilized society.
- eulers_secret 4y agoYes! This site can be extremely toxic because of the VC bent. If someone made a competitor that had just-as-good tech discussion without the VC “value-add”, I’d never come here ever again. I also like seeing so many of the ruling class get angry and post about requiring salary ranges, it’s been very entertaining this morning :)
- GabrielBen 4y agoThis is a site made by a VC, for news on VC startups, for VC startup news consumers. Its mind-boggling that so many users come here to rant against capitalism, or advocate against startups, or have absolutely no relationship whatsoever with the space. It's not only crazy for me, its crazy for the makers of this site was well!
- solardev 4y agoshrug This is just the culture that evolved here. Not every hacker is a capitalist. And HN's own guidelines welcome "Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity." The whole salary transparency discussion IS something many hackers find interesting, especially since much of the actual "hacking" is on the labor side rather than the capital side. I don't think it's hackers' fault that venture capitalism made a bad name for itself. The VCs did that well enough on their own. Hacking culture predates (and will hopefully outlast) tech opportunism. And I also hope this forum/audience eventually moves to a FOSS, community-supported model instead of being a part of YC. But for now it's where we gather.
- ralph84 4y agoIt’s called Hacker News not VC News? There are far more hackers than VCs. And besides, VCs and their portfolio companies leverage the law to make other people do (or not do) things all of the time. IP law being an obvious example.
- conanbatt 4y agoThat would be even worse, as hackers are by definition rule breakers.
- scarecrowbob 4y agoSomebody has to keep an eye on you assholes. /grin However, this community has a lot of intelligent folks who both disagree with my understandings of the world and who have a lot of insight into domains I never want to touch (finance, bigco culture, small-l right libertarian politics). There are plenty of sane, interesting, well-informed folks here who I vehemently disagree with, and that's a necessary condition of learning about the world.
- bigbillheck 4y agoI would hope that 'compliance with the law' is not 'completely orthogonal to the VC space' but I've seen an awful lot over the years.
- badpun 4y agoPeople in "VC space" use laws aplenty to protect their interests as well, as is everyone else who takes part in any civilized society.
- gregjor 4y agoProbably because HN is not a law enforcement agency for New York City. The law has some exceptions, perhaps those apply. Why not contact the company and politely ask for the salary range?
- tuckerman 4y agoI agree with the sentiment but maybe you can see this post as them doing that very thing but aimed at YC. While I agree normal HN posts don’t need to be policed, the ads for hiring at YC companies aren’t normal posts.
- gregjor 4y agoSure. But if someone wants YC to enforce posting salary ranges in job posts they might want to take that up privately with YC management rather than starting with public criticism. In other contexts people usually advocate "praise publicly, criticize privately." If the OP thinks YC job posts break the law or fall short of ethical rules then I suggest asking YC about it rather than accusing YC companies of "breaking hiring laws" on a public forum.
- shanebellone 4y agoOP didn't accuse. OP pointed out. NY evidently requires pay ranges. This job posting did not include the required pay range. There are also zero posts disparaging the company, YC, or HN. Any particular range you're upset about this?
- gregjor 4y agoThe original post title: "Why are YC companies breaking hiring laws?" I read that as an accusation. OP did not name any specific companies supposedly breaking hiring laws. New York City started requiring salary ranges in job postings for most companies (not all) just a few weeks ago. I would interpret a few job postings that don't include salaries as oversights or perhaps companies exempt from the law (which has a few exceptions). If someone posted "Why is HN allowing shanelbellone to break the law?" would you read that as an accusation?
- altdataseller 4y agoContact the company, and tell them they need to publish their salary range. Or else you'll report them to the NYC Attorney General (or whoever is in charge of this thing). Maybe they're ignorant. Or they're hoping noone calls them out on this. Either way, make sure they know the consequences if they don't publish it
- scrapcode 4y agoThis will certainly move you to the top of the list for hiring consideration. /s
- meta2023 4y agoThe user in question sells alt data. If they’re remotely competent at doing so, they have zero need to work at a startup much less a YC-funded one.
- eloff 4y agoWhat's alt data? I've never heard that term before.
- sampo 4y ago"What Is Alternative Data and Why Is It Changing Finance?" https://builtin.com/fintech/alternative-data https://builtin.com/fintech/alternative-data
- yamtaddle 4y agoTL;DR: Info gleaned from just about any source other than company statements and market data, used to guide investment choices. This includes stuff like satellite imagery, which has been used for a long time for these sorts of purposes, but also e.g. social media trends. I guess the news is that there's more of it happening now, because the practice itself isn't new.
- josefresco 4y agoI found an example on today's front page (Rutter): https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rutter/7b222f5f-cd46-4592-9cf8-6cd1f5e09931 https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rutter/7b222f5f-cd46-4592-9cf8-6cd1... No salary range posted, job is in NYC.
- cyrieu 4y agoHey sorry about that this is our job posting - we duplicated a another one and missed adding that information, thanks for catching that! We added in the salary range. Feel free to email us if you have any other questions!
- josefresco 4y agoDidn't mean to call you out specifically, just wanted to see if OP was correct. Thanks for being so responsive, it's a good sign for applicants!
- JustSomeNobody 4y agoWhy not add it by default?
- CoastalCoder 4y ago> Why not add it by default? IIUC, it's generally held that in a price negotiation, the first party that posts a number is at a disadvantage. Starting salary is one kind of price negotiation. So I can understand why employers would be reluctant to do that.
- shanebellone 4y agoThis is probably true but also bad practice imo. It instantly signals that employers value leverage rather than employees.
- bilsbie 4y agoWouldn’t the concept of anchoring say the opposite though? I’ve always wondered that. My guess is if you say too high of a number they don’t take you seriously so anchoring can’t work?
- giraffe_lady 4y agoit's called disruption bb
- zcombynator 4y agoYou should stop making YC responsible for what any single portfolio company is doing. That's straight out hilarious. After the firms are out of batch they are independent and autonomous organizations.
- rtev 4y agoThey’re advertising here on their platform, so the tie-in is strong.
- matsemann 4y agoAs long as these companies keep bragging about being related to YC, anything they do will also reflect on YC. You can't ask people not to associate these things. And in this case, these ads are given special treatment here on HN. So of course YC owns some part of the responsibility.
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- rqtwteye 4y agoThey want to get all the credit and positive PR when things go well and not have any responsibility when things don’t go well?
- roflyear 4y agoIt wasn't a single company, it has been a pattern for a while - that's why I made the post.
- CodeWriter23 4y agoMaybe they are fishing for a willing plaintiff in a planned test case to challenge the law on a constitutional basis.
- SamWhited 4y agoA friend of mine asked about one of these recently and they wouldn't give him a salary range, so he reported them to the attorney general and they immediately put one on their website. Can't hurt to ask (although in that case they may only give it to you, if they do, move on to step 2 anyways), then if they don't update it report them and you'll be doing everyone else a favor too.
- jeffrallen 4y agoBecause Internet? Because disrupt? Don't you know that human laws do not apply to the cloud? /s
- trifit 4y ago
- matsemann 4y agoWhy do you accuse OP of being on a "high horse" just for asking this? You're reading quite a lot into this.
- nathanappere 4y agoAnd what's wrong with shedding some light on this behaviour so that it changes and starts complying with the law? Also: "Your jumping to defend YC companies make me wonder if you're not just a fan boy. Maybe come down form your high horse thinking that you need to defend these YC companies breaking the law?" See where I took it from & how bad it looks?
- joshuamorton 4y agoThe law did have a grace period of nearly a year. It was passed on early December 2021 and only took effect in November 2022.
- breck 4y ago
- xnorswap 4y agoTo those who think it's not YC / HN's problem, you're missing that HN literally has a Job Board: https://news.ycombinator.com/jobs https://news.ycombinator.com/jobs This is a core part of their offering, it's not just user generated content, it's YC companies posting on YC's job board.
- yamtaddle 4y agoIt's deeply bizarre to me that there are so many posters on here who think a fund that: 1) invests in, 2) advises, and 3) provides free job advertising to; various startups, has no responsibility to advise them to follow the law when posting those job advertisements on that fund's own job board. I understand the ones who raise the possibility that some of these aren't, in fact, breaking the law, for one reason or another, but the ones who seem to take offense at the notion that YC might have even a sliver of responsibility here in the first place are really surprising.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoSqueaky wheel gets the grease. Never assume someone will do the right or legal thing, regardless of status or PR. Can’t explain the Stockholm Syndrome (“but the ones who seem to take offense at the notion that YC might have even a sliver of responsibility here”), people can be emotional, irrational creatures due to life experience and belief systems. But Sequoia lost $200M on a fraud having done zero due diligence, so perhaps it’s simply different shades of apathy all the way down.
- roflyear 4y agoI'm glad this took off. I think some of the posts were fixed!! :)
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- rchaud 4y agoin Silicon Valley style "first principles thinking", you start from the premise that laws don't exist. Airbnb and Uber wouldn't exist if their backers urged them to comply with state laws.
- paulgb 4y agoThere are some comments in here that verge on assuming bad faith on the part of the companies involved, so I think it's worth pointing out that this is a new law which has been in effect for just over a month. It's been on the way for a while, so it's not “sudden”, but it’s still a new thing that people are figuring out and it’s easier to forget about if you’re in the habit of re-using old listings. (Not about OP, whose reminder is helpful and in good faith!)
- freeopinion 4y agoDo you make the same argument for new speed limit signs? Abortion restrictions? Minimum wage requirements?
- Osiris 4y agoThis has been law in Colorado for 2 years and applies to anyone offering jobs to any Colorado resident including remote jobs. The law passed in 2019 and went into effect Jan 1, 2021.
- ntonozzi 4y agoAnd yet many job postings, even those that are only in Colorado, still don't have the salary on the job posting.
- Osiris 4y agoMy point is that it’s not a new law. It’s new for New York but other states have required it for a long time.
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- lotsofpulp 4y agoOnly one jurisdiction other than NYC (not New York State) requires it, which is CO, and only as of Jan 1, 2021. NYC started Nov 1, 2022. CA and WA start Jan 1, 2023. NY state is waiting on governor’s signature, but seeing as how it has been months and she has not signed it, I assume she will not.
- gjvc 4y agobecause everybody tries to get away with whatever they think they can get away with. If you maintain this wide-eyed innocence you will be no more than everyone else's victim.
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- Eumenes 4y ago
- indymike 4y agoI've been in the job board / HR Tech space for a while, and every time I see a state pass a law requiring advertising the salary range, I'm reminded of a few facts: * Showing your salary range as long as it is at market wage or higher delivers 14% more applicants. It is a good idea to show salary on job ads. * If you don't give the job board a salary range, they will use tools like salary.com or their own tools to show an "estimated salary range" on your job so they pick up more clicks when they syndicate your job to other sources (i.e. email alerts and other job boards). * If you are uncompetitve on wages, fix it. Even though there's a lot of doom and gloom out there, the truth is that unemployment did not go up in November. * If you advertise a job respond to applicants quickly - as in within minutes of the application. A single day of delay in response causes 28% of candidates to become unresponsive to recruiters (this is from our company's research). It drops to 51% become unresponsive 48 hours later.
- yamtaddle 4y ago> * If you advertise a job respond to applicants quickly - as in within minutes of the application. A single day of delay in response causes 28% of candidates to become unresponsive to recruiters (this is from our company's research). It drops to 51% become unresponsive 48 hours later. My experience with being hired at non-FAANG places over a career of more than two decades is that I'm usually through a process and hired within a week. Often, like three days, from first contact to offer. I think my single longest job search was maybe a month, total. Companies that have these weeks- or months-long processes but don't pay FAANG-tier wages to make it worth the wait, I have no idea how the hell they manage to hire anyone at all. You've got to move or I'll already be looking at two other offers before you set the date for your second round or WTF ever.
- indymike 4y agoI routinely hire developers in 24 hours from initial contact. It's fun watching them get random recruiter calls two or three weeks later. "I'm not interested, I STARTED my new job three weeks ago. No, I'm not willing to leave for that. Have a nice day." Except the "Have a nice day" part is usually less friendly and polite.
- jcims 4y agoIt's acceptable to me. Is there an obligation in the law to list salary range at every recruiting reference? If not, is HN now obligated to monitor every official posting for salary range? If you have a problem with the company, report the company.
- mbrubeck 4y ago> Is there an obligation in the law to list salary range at every recruiting reference? “Any advertisement for a job, promotion, or transfer opportunity that would be performed in New York City is covered by the new law. An ‘advertisement’ is a written description of an available job, promotion, or transfer opportunity that is publicized to a pool of potential applicants. Such advertisements are covered regardless of the medium in which they are disseminated. Covered listings include postings on internal bulletin boards, internet advertisements, printed flyers distributed at job fairs, and newspaper advertisements.” — https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications/Salary-Transparency-Factsheet.pdf https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications/...
- jcims 4y agoFirst, thank you for the reference. Second, who implements this part? "Does this new law apply to my job postings? All employers that have four or more employees or one or more domestic workers are covered by the NYCHRL, including this new provision of the law. As with other provisions of the NYCHRL, owners and individual employers count towards the four employees. The four employees do not need to work in the same location, and they do not need to all work in New York City. As long as one of the employees works in New York City, the workplace is covered. Employment Agencies are also covered by the new law, regardless of their size. As such, employment agencies must ensure that any job listings they promote or seek to fill comply with the new salary transparency requirements. Temporary Help Firm Exception: The new law does not apply to temporary help firms seeking applicants to join their pool of available workers. Temporary help firms are businesses that recruit, hire, and assign their own employees to perform work or services for other organizations, to support or supplement the other organization’s workforce, or to provide assistance in special work situations. However, employers who work with temporary help firms must follow the new salary transparency law"
- nmjohn 4y agoKeep in mind many of the salary transparency laws have minimum employee counts before they come into effect, and iirc, the new york one requires an existing employee being located there before it comes into effect. I'm firmly on the side of salary transparency, even if a company technically doesn't have to because of its size - but I suspect many of the YC companies in question here are small enough to not be affected by some of these laws.
- spullara 4y agoWhat is the downside of posting a salary range of $1 to $1m for every job? Is there some kind of enforcement that it has to be someone at the company making the amount of money for the job with the same title?
- JakeStone 4y agoThey just immediately receive the delete button. Maybe 5 years ago or so, I got an email that sounded good in terms of domain and tech stack, and with good detail on tasks and responsibilities. As I reached the bottom, I saw a salary heading and assumed it would have a good range. It said something like $80k - $2 million. Immediately deleted and a filter placed in my email to never hear from them again.
- Waterluvian 4y agoI think the difference is how loudly they're saying, "!@#$ you, we are in control and will manipulate this process to our advantage." If the goal is, in good faith, to find someone to do a job, then publishing all known constraints will drastically improve the search. But when they don't do that, it's usually because they want to hold their cards close so that they can both 1) hire someone to fill a _need_ the company has, and 2) pay them as little as possible. As other comments have discussed, it's kind of a self-own that just makes the process slower and worse and leaves everyone less happy at the end.
- spullara 4y agoI guess for me personally, I have almost always been paid above the salary range for the jobs that I have had so it feels limiting to me.
- bin_bash 4y agoThe law states: > employers advertising jobs in New York City must include a good faith salary range for every job, promotion, and transfer opportunity advertised I think the question is what is "good faith" and what is the legal test (if there is one) for such a description. I'd love it if a lawyer could pontificate on this.
- bladeaod 4y agoYou have to have a certain number of employees for these laws to apply
- mbrubeck 4y agoSpecifically, the NY law applies to businesses with 4 or more employees (including owners/founders).
- SpeedilyDamage 4y agoCurious: can you post a job that isn't for folks in states that have this requirement? Would you have to explicitly say that or only upon inquiry?
- diehunde 4y agoYes. You add that the job doesn't apply to people from Colorado or NY. I've seen a lot of those.
- nnoitra 4y ago
- medellin 4y agoSame thing for anyone posting Colorado jobs
- theGnuMe 4y agoIs it malicious? Maybe... is it stupidity? Certainly. Just inform the companies when you see it and then report them if they refuse to disclose and update the listing. It actually tells you more about the moral compass of the company if they refuse to disclose which I would find valuable.
- varispeed 4y agoAre salary ranges actually meaningful? To be fair I don't reply to an offer that does not state the pay, but I've been a victim of bait and switch many times. Notably, when going through all the interview stages and being told I have been accepted only to find out in the contract that the salary is much different from what has been offered. They were hoping that I would agree given I have invested so much time going to interviews and so on. The excuse? "We have gone over budget with hiring and unfortunately now that the maximum we can offer, we are very sorry."
- lotsofpulp 4y agoAt the very least, the bottom of the pay range is very meaningful to help filter out jobs and save time for everyone.
- batrastard 4y ago
- Joel_Mckay 4y agoRegional laws differ, and the exact same text can have completely different implications in another jurisdiction. For example, Employee-at-will contracts popular in the US are illegal in other zones, and not worth the paper they are printed on in places like Canada. This is a good reason to always hire a local law firm to review your paperwork, and immigration lawyers to check the intended working arrangements. Trust that no matter how you personally think things should be done, the law becomes rather expensive if you assume local laws apply internationally. This lesson is expensive if you learn it the hard way. Also, one may find most firms are allergic to legal posturing, and candidates with an aggressive lack of impulse control. =)
- Sidsaladi 4y agoAwesome
- Sidsaladi 4y agoWow
- TimPC 4y agoFor me the initial response time isn’t the biggest deal (and I’m surprised the effect size of a single day delay is so large). What matters more is having a quick turnaround whenever I give you a set of times from my schedule. Companies are so bad at this that I’ve started giving them only fractions of my available time (which makes it harder to schedule interviews). I’m not sure what the solution is because I can’t give you 100% of my available time if you are going to sit on it for three days before scheduling. I’m talking to other employers and need to schedule things with them too.
- notananthem 4y agoReport to AG, if a company doesn't incentivize its staff to be legally compliant its a risk to the business
- eduction 4y agoYC’s HN altered the submission in a way that erases the previously stated fact that this behavior is a violation of NYC law, which leaves the discussion unresponsive to the question and also risks the appearance of trying to hide the illegal behavior. There were probably other reasons behind the change but to preserve the meaning of the post something about this being a possible/likely violation of nyc law should IMO be added back to the post.
- dang 4y agoI explained the title change here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33974170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33974170. I think you make a good point though, so I've edited it again. For those curious, the originally submitted title was "Ask HN: Why are YC companies breaking hiring laws?" and the first edit was "Ask HN: Why are YC companies hiring in NYC not posting their salary range? I've just edited it a second time, to "Ask HN: Why are YC companies in NYC posting their salary range, as law requires?". I don't think that's a very good HN title, as it makes a general claim about "YC companies in NYC" which is almost certainly both untrue and unfair. But for reasons I explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33974170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33974170, I suppose it's ok as a tradeoff. Edit: whoops that second edit dropped the 'not', which was obviously critical. I've replaced it with Ask HN: Why are YC companies in NYC not posting salary range, as law requires?. Edit 2: I've changed it again in response to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33976153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33976153. It's now "Ask HN: Why are some YC startups not posting salary ranges when law requires it?"
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- wyldfire 4y ago> "Ask HN: Why are YC companies in NYC posting their salary range, as law requires?" Is that the right polarity? I think the question was/should be why "aren't" they posting it. Right? Or do I totally misunderstand?
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- gnicholas 4y agoI assume this doesn't apply to most YC companies, but the smallest companies (with fewer than four employees) are exempted from the law: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications/Salary-Transparency-Factsheet.pdf https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications/... It's nice that there's a carveout for small companies, who don't need more friction as they're trying to get off the ground.
- 999900000999 4y agoSalary ranges with a 60k spread. Progress! At this point get rid of negotiation straight up. Ether someone is qualified or not. If not create a junior role for them, or not hire em.
- 1attice 4y agoConflict-of-interest evident in the HN re-title-fication of this post. Recall that making something less salacious when you are the subject is quite different from toning down clickbait headlines when you're wearing your neutral-editorial hat. Original title was 'Why are some YC companies breaking the law?' And frankly, that's a great question. Admittedly not-so-great is the absence of any specific example on the OP, but that's another matter. The post is about law-abidingness and to change that to protect YC on a chat board run by YC is sketch, YC.
- dang 4y agoI changed the title as part of moderating this thread less than we normally would. We moderate HN threads less, not more, when YC or YC startups are part of the story—this has been established practice since the beginning: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20moderate%20%22less%2C%20not%20more%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... The way we'd normally moderate a thread like this is by downweighting it as a generic riler-upper (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=%20riler%20upper&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...). Posts like the OP are extremely common, because the internet is perpetually noticing something seemingly outrageous, jumping to the most extreme interpretation, exclaiming angrily, and then egging itself on. That's how the medium works. If we didn't downweight such posts, the front page would be be nothing but sensational/indignant material; there'd be no room for anything else. This is a no-brainer as a moderation call, and this practice has also been established on HN since the beginning. However, because the thread mentions YC startups, I haven't touched it or done what we normally would. Editing sensational/indignant titles to be more neutral and reflect the substance of a story (not that there's really a story here) is another well-established moderation practice on HN, again for what ought to be obvious reasons: if we didn't do it, then the front page would consist of nothing but that. So in this case I limited myself to the minimum viable title edit, while letting the post continue to burn at a much higher rank on the front page than it would ever normally get away with. For me the real conflict or tradeoff here is: how do we balance the need to not suppress criticisms (even when they are unfair or untrue—because the good will of the community is more important, in fact it's the only asset HN really has), with the need to preserve HN for its intended purpose. The ecosystem is fragile and takes a lot of tending to, and one of the most important forms of tending—which only moderators can really provide—is to not allow garden-variety internet indignation to drown out the quieter, more interesting material that HN is supposed to be for. It should be clear why the rule is "we moderate less when YC is the story", rather than "we moderate not at all"—the latter would be a loophole you could drive a convoy of trucks through. Therefore, when I asked myself what was the minimum reasonable thing to do, editing the sensational or (to use your word) salacious title to accurate reflect what (little) substance the post actually included, while not downweighting the submission the way we usually would, seemed to me the right tradeoff. This post doesn't deserve the hours on the front page that it's getting, but that's the local price we pay in favor of a global optimization. Edit: I changed the title again after posting this, in response to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33973106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33973106, which made a fair point.
- purpleblue 4y agoA lot of people are acting out of anger, as if the companies are conspiring to keep the salary secret. Could it just be they made an innocent mistake?
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- roflyear 4y agoTitle of this post was changed btw: not all NYC companies are not posting salary ranges. And it isn't ONLY an issue in NYC, either. Very misleading title.