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Kind of surprising to not see the words "domestic terrorism" here, so let me be the first? This very well could be domestic terrorism and for now it would be p
by jrm4 4y ago
Kind of surprising to not see the words "domestic terrorism" here, so let me be the first?
This very well could be domestic terrorism and for now it would be prudent to treat it as such.
- hedora 4y agoWhat is your definition of domestic terrorism? (I don't understand how it "could be", vs. "clearly is".) Anyway, the press seems to be loathe to use that term when white conservatives are involved, and it happened in North Carolina.
- spoils19 4y agoI think we should wait before labeling what could just be economically anxious Americans exercising their right to free speech.
- masterjack 4y agoShooting up and destroying key infrastructure for a town leaving many without power sounds a lot more like domestic terrorism than free speech, especially if it is in response to a small number of adults having an event you disagree with.
- kasey_junk 4y agoIt was sarcasm
- rnd0 4y agoPoe's law means it doesn't matter.
- ceejayoz 4y agoI think you've missed the sarcasm. "Economic anxiety" has been used for a while by news organizations unwilling to say "racism" or "bigotry".
- HyperSane 4y ago
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoThat seems extremely spurious to label without confirmation?
- HyperSane 4y ago
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoStill waiting for the evidence that that had anything to do with the substation attack...
- wereallterrrist 4y agoThe known widely open anti-lgbt jan 6th rioted who posted within hours of the outtage that she knew the source of the outage? And a picture of the drag venue with "god will not be mocked". Whatever you gotta tell yourself!
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoThere are people who falsely claim credit for crimes that attract lots of attention. That's a known thing that happens. Got any evidence?
- all2 4y ago
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- DiggyJohnson 4y agoWhat is the actual importance of this rhetoric / labeling discussion over all emerging domestic news stories? Do you not feel that it constantly gets in the way of an actual discussion. I feel like this topic has been ongoing for over a decade. There are so many ways to describe the world. This is being described as a “[premeditated] attack”. Is there some ulterior motive I’m missing? Sorry to seem to ranty over this, but it seems like an extremely forced meme at this point. I’m usually arguing for the importance of words, but on this specific criticism, genuinely, I beg the question, who effing cares?
- voltaireodactyl 4y agoThe legal system is who effing cares, in this instance. There are different mechanisms and agencies that deal with terrorist vs premeditated-but-non-political-in-objective acts. I think a lot of the desire for specificity in terminology that you’re seeing demanded is stemming from a desire for people to see organizations step in that truly have the resources, investigative experience, and political will to accomplish progress in this arena — for example certain offices of the FBI.
- salawat 4y agoI want no political will in an investigation. I want the truth found. Political will results in the opposite.
- voltaireodactyl 4y ago“Political will” is a phrase that refers to the ability of an entity to power through the partisan demands from all sides, while still maintaining and achieving their stated goal. In this case, as you desire, the truth. So I believe we are in agreement, once terms are fully understood on all sides. It’s important to me that we not dilute the meaning of important phrases by assuming they add up to no more than the sum of their discrete elements — it coarsens discussion and incites unnecessary rhetoric.
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- claytongulick 4y agoCitation?
- version_five 4y agoThat theory is actively refuted in the article but there was some chatter on twitter about it apparently. (See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33859434 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33859434) Overall I get the impression that promoting conspiracy theories is ok when they involve hypothetical "far right" actors
- gonzo41 4y ago
- dirtyv 4y agohttps://www.wral.com/moore-county-woman-protests-drag-show-on-social-media-claims-deputies-visited-her-saturday-night/20612783/ https://www.wral.com/moore-county-woman-protests-drag-show-o...
- Aeolun 4y agoI realize they’re not rational actors, but how do they think this helps their agenda? Is this county such a hotbed of Trans/Drag related activism?
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- nadieyninguno1 4y agoJust spitballing here - turning it into an “event” might will spur copy-cat attacks around the country. The slow-play around reporting of possible attackers and motives is trying to stop the social contagion.
- greedo 4y agoThese groups are already organized and coordinated. They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. They know who their allies are, and are now starting to act out in more violent fashion. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
- nadieyninguno1 4y ago
- lolbyutuwha 4y ago>They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. It's a strange way to write "parents attended school board meetings".
- nadieyninguno1 4y agoGotta “Save Our Democracy!” unless it’s something I disagree with then it’s “problematic.” HN needs to take a hardline stance against anyone engaged in this “narrative control” garbage we’ve seen in this thread. There is 0 substance provided and it is entirely politically motivated.
- greedo 4y agoIn multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. This was an organized, coordinated movement to disrupt board meetings and intimidate board members.
- nadieyninguno1 4y ago
- bagels 4y agoWe don't know why it was done. Isn't intent of the action part of the formula for terrorism?
- anigbrowl 4y agoYet. You are correct about credit claims being part of the formula, but it's not a hard requirement.