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I’m curious, did you ever try using less detergent? Like cutting one of those pouches in half? It’d be messy but maybe it’d work.
by hardwaregeek 4y ago
I’m curious, did you ever try using less detergent? Like cutting one of those pouches in half? It’d be messy but maybe it’d work.
- nerdponx 4y agoDon't use the damn pouches! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoA. Watch his follow up video. Where he talks about all he got wrong. B. I recently switched to a more “natural” SevenGenerations pouch and holy crap it’s been excellent. C. You can not buy anything but pods at two of my grocery stores. You need to go to Walmart near me to find any straight powder. Market has spoken right or wrong.
- XorNot 4y agoWhat he got wrong was... You might want to use less detergent to avoid residues. The pouches are still pointless. We switched and it almost completely solved our "dishes not getting cleaned properly" problem.
- dhritzkiv 4y agoSame. Switching to powder has done a lot for us in getting dishes cleaner, and we can dial in the amount of powder needed for the particular soil level of a load. The fact that it's cheaper per load, and the box fits more neatly under the sink are added benefits.
- MereInterest 4y agoAnd if your hands are slightly damp, the cardboard box for the powder doesn't stick to your fingers, where a dissolvable membrane would start dissolving on you.
- insane_dreamer 4y agoWe use dissolvable tablets (from Blueland) with all "natural" ingredients; can't vouch for how true the natural claim is, but we're happy with them and it's one way to reduce plastic; we also get their dissolvable tablets for hand soap, all purpose cleaners, glass cleaner, etc.
- garyfirestorm 4y agoI tried the dishwasher tablets and felt like it didn’t clean the dishes as well. We been using the hand soap and other cleaners and I’m never going back on those. Maybe I need to give the dishwasher tabs a try again.
- insane_dreamer 4y agoMaybe it depends on the dishwasher. We used them in our previous house and weren't as impressed with them but then moved and our new dishwasher works very well with them.
- TylerE 4y agoPlenty of things that are “all natural” will kill you in the blink of an eye
- hackernewds 4y agoLike arsenic
- TylerE 4y agoOr cyanide, cobra venom, polonium, or lead.
- throwawaylinux 4y agoAlso lions.
- nerdponx 4y ago> Market has spoken right or wrong. I call BS on this. The non-pouch detergents disappeared, that much I know. I strongly doubt people had stopped buying gel and powder. I suspect that some bright bulb at Johnson & Johnson or wherever did the math and realized that pouch margins were higher than gel and powder margins.
- michael1999 4y agoThe marketing side of the market has spoken. Fixed serving sizes force over-use. Lots of included water means extra volume and weight (perceived value) on the shelf. While powders allow measured use, and reduce turnover. I buy 20lb boxes of cheap powder and they last for months. Hot water just doesn’t need that much help if you put some in the pre-wash too.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago> I buy 20lb boxes of cheap powder and they last for months. ...is this a commercial kitchen? 20lb is like two loads a day for a year.
- archi42 4y agoDepends on the household size and habits. Daily cooking for 4 or 5 people and sharing two other meals and the occasional baking can quickly fill up the dish washer, especially in those growing phases when the kids are eating like there is no tomorrow ;-)
- AdrianB1 4y ago20 years ago in my country overuse of powder detergents was well known by all the manufacturers; this is when fixed serving sizes were developed as a way to contain the problem and they are also considered more convenient by most consumers. I was working in one of these companies at that time, so I know the subject pretty well.
- michael1999 4y ago
- darkwater 4y agoTIL American dishwashers expect hot water input. This seems... bad?
- nerdponx 4y agoIt's only bad if the hot water takes a long time to get hot, which used to be much more problems than it is in newer systems.
- Scoundreller 4y agoOr run half in the pre-wash cycle and the other in regular cycle. Can also help to run/prime your hot water tap before starting cycle to start off with hot water (in places where it’s hooked up to hot).
- nijave 4y agoThe difference with "primed" hot water is pretty crazy for something that seems trivial. I've also found opening the door and jiggling the racks during the drying cycle also makes a pretty big difference (assuming you catch it at the right time--and use heated dry)
- michael1999 4y agoSome vinegar in the dispenser will fix the spots.
- dreamcompiler 4y agoOr a half teaspoon of citric acid powder.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y agoHope you enjoy replacing seals
- egberts1 4y agoOooh, ouch. Yeah, in an industrial setting (PCB, the printed circuit board, not the oil-based ones found in end-feeder poled step-down transformer). Citrus acid does "WONDER" in shorten lifespan of rubber/plastic seals.
- acjohnson55 4y agoI also learned this hot water trick. Apparently, energy efficient dishwashers have an energy budget per cycle and will only put a fixed amount into heating water, so getting hotter water into the dishwasher makes a huge difference in performance.
- hjadal 4y agoTheres also liquid or powder detergent, which allows you to use a fitting amount for the dishwasher load.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoLiquids have enzymes or bleach. They might have oxiclean instead of bleach but apparently the two best cleaning agents don’t exist in liquid together very well. Powder is better. Pods are just powder.
- insane_dreamer 4y agoYou can also get dissolvable tablets (basically powder stuck together).
- amanaplanacanal 4y agoBut the pods have too much detergent. Since there is no detergent in the pre-wash, they put too much in the main wash.
- tharkun__ 4y agoI always break a corner off the pod and crumble it into the pre-wash partition since watching the video nerdponx in the sibling thread posted (found it through a different post maybe a half year or so ago also here on HN). I also do the hot-water priming when I remember to.