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Hmm apple still makes great hardware but I think software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… For example on you phone you will get a red alert i

Hmm apple still makes great hardware but I think software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… For example on you phone you will get a red alert in settings … when you click it … says Try apple music for 3 months .. or will say setup apple pay … or sometimes say sign in with icloud. (even after declining multiple times) These are just ads disguised as systems alerts … hurts the experience and comes off as cheap. Also on Apple Computers and Phones alike it keeps asking to sign in and use icloud. But then gives you only 5gigs of space … not enough to even backup your phone and then tries to upsell a monthly fee for expanded storage. The software is designed to confuse users into purchasing when simply taking photos. New iphone with 64 gigs of storage 40 gigs free …. user gets message they are out of space in icloud and can purchase more space. They are quite aware that many users are not savy enough to know they don’t need to use icloud at all with photos or anything. Every time you update the phone it prompts you to “sign in” or “create and account”. Again comes off as cheap and pushy. I can go on and on but money crunchers are definitely at the table with software these days.

startupsfail 4y ago
I’m surprised that Apple, as a company that had been carbon neutral since 2020 and had pledged to protect the environment hadn’t banned any use of Bitcoins from their platform altogether. Crypto carbon footprint is mind-boggling, estimates are 200 million tonnes of CO2 since the launch, not including the CO2 emitted to manufacture the hardware. Coinbase, that popularised all that mining to the general public should be considered as evil as other large CO2 emitters. And worse, all of these carbon emissions are for nothing, crypto seem only to be contributing to more exchanges crashes, fraud, money laundering and crime. With nothing to show on the positive side.
- Mistletoe 4y ago
  You are confusing Bitcoin with crypto. Ethereum uses drastically less energy after it transitioned to proof of stake. Many other cryptocurrencies are similar. https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption Nor do I agree with your assessment of banning Bitcoin because its power usage doesn’t match what we would like. I assume we all somewhat believe in the free market and the free market is solving this problem. Bitcoin price appreciation has been anemic at best and is only about 2% over the SP500 (+54%) in the past five years. Ethereum is quite a different story. +177%. Innovation is working. How much power and materials are wasted when Apple releases incremental changes with a new number each year to resell the same thing to materialistic buyers annually? Should they ban themselves for the greater good of the planet? I’d say so. https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/apples-colossal-e-waste-timebomb/ https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/apples-colossal-e-w... >Assuming the ecosystem was made up entirely of iPhones, an iPhone, on average, weighs 150g and are 130mm long. This means that you're looking at a pile of iPhones weighing 250,000 metric tons (the Empire State Building weighs in at roughly 330,000 metric tons), and if laid end-to-end would circle the Earth more than five times. And that’s just the e-waste. How much energy went into making them, how many dollars were wasted paying salaries and gas etc.?
  - startupsfail 4y ago
    Crypto is bound to bitcoin. There is nothing that is holding that house of cards besides the bitcoins. As Ethereum and other coins do not have the cap. And near any investment into crypto contributes to the environmental damage from bitcoins. You can read Apple’s environmental report. And read the recent publications that analyse the environmental impact of crypto. And one of the biggest moves that Apple and Google can do as companies, to lessen the environmental impact is actually banning bitcoins and crypto. As someone who cares about the environment, I advocate for it. I don’t have any investments to Apple or Google or Bitcoins. Please, disclose any crypto investments, should you advocate for these.
- cft 4y ago
  I would recommend banning Netflix first while you are at it: data centers providing Netflix streaming services would consume around 370 TWh per year (Kamiya 2020) [1] That's not counting all the client devices power consumption while watching it. While BTC uses 87 TWh. [2] 1. https://blogs.salleurl.edu/en/energy-consumption-data-center#:~:text=Another%20recent%20claim%20is%20that,per%20year%20(Kamiya%202020) https://blogs.salleurl.edu/en/energy-consumption-data-center.... 2. https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index
  - p1necone 4y ago
    Link 1 only references that claim to debunk it, mentioning that estimated energy usage from all datacenters in the world is less than 370 TWh.
    - yesenadam 4y ago
      True, it says "this value is 1.8 times larger than the 205 TWh estimated for all of the world’s data centers combined, which provide society with myriad other information services beyond just streaming Netflix videos."
- mejutoco 4y ago
  If you are going down this route, you can also consider the environmental impact of electronics and aluminum production, which takes a lot of energy (and pollutes too). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_smelting#Environmental_issues_of_aluminium_smelters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_smelting#Environment...
  - cromulent 4y ago
    True. Apple has at least been making efforts to use recycled aluminum - 59% last year. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/04/apple-expands-the-use-of-recycled-materials-across-its-products/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/04/apple-expands-the-use...
  - startupsfail 4y ago
    What are the actual positives from crypto? Had any been demonstrated? I see a lot of positives in having an iPhone. Say, my children can video-call their mom when she is travelling. Isn’t that amazing? Isn’t that worth the environmental impact, especially considering that Apple is carbon-neutral? What are the positives of crypto? I haven’t noticed any for 10 years it had been around. Only exchange crashes and hacks like MtGox, Fed investigators having to fight Silk Road and the crazy near-fraud exuberance of FTX and alike.
coffeebeqn 4y ago
I mean maybe the software is less quality than it used to be but so is it everywhere else. Software is more complex than it was. In OSes.. Windows, Android, Linux GUI are all jankier. Apple Music’s closest competitors are all electron-based resource hogs? Safari is still the best mobile browser
- rjmunro 4y ago
  I haven't use iOS in a while. What is better about Safari than other browsers?
- counttheforks 4y ago
  > Safari is still the best mobile browser Ha. https://caniuse.com/?compare=ios_saf+16.1&compareCats=all#results https://caniuse.com/?compare=ios_saf+16.1&compareCats=all#re...
  - SllX 4y ago
    This might sound odd, but there is an entirely different axis by which to evaluate the quality of a browser than the web developer axis. If you look at the omissions, while there are some things I would prefer Apple to support (e.g. AV1 decoding), there’s also plenty in there whose omission of I consider a feature (basically anything on there that can be used for fingerprinting).
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      There is also two completely different axis for 'feature support' and 'security', neither of which need to be mutually exclusive. WebKit is really not the 'best mobile browser' any more than Microsoft Edge is the best Xbox browser.
    - realusername 4y ago
      It's not only about features, there's a lot of bugs on Safari mobile you don't really see because basically web devs takes enough time to solve them. I've experienced SVG bugs, z-index bugs, form bugs and even a few dom events bugs to name a few. Fortunately nowadays I don't need to support this browser anymore on my new company.
SllX 4y ago
I hated upvoting this but you’re right. I don’t use the App Store much anymore, nor Apple News that much even with an Apple One subscription and I just keep coming back to the fact that the only adware installed on my phone—and I’ve checked—is basically the system software itself. This is a premium phone at a premium price paired up with a range of premium-priced accessories. I know I get more than the value out of these devices than I’m putting in but damn does it feel like Apple isn’t just double-dipping, they’re like quadruple-dipping at least. There’s the money I paid, there’s the money I pay to Apple for services that I do actually want, which, fair, some things have an upkeep cost, there’s the money I pay to 3rd party developers which Apple takes a cut of, and then there’s the money they’re charging developers to put ads in my face when I do open the App Store. There is such a thing as a value-add, and your example of the 5GB iCloud storage? The fact that this is the base level no matter what model phone you purchase just feels downright cheap, and that’s theoretically shared with a Mac or an iPad or both. Actually gutter-dwelling penny-pinching coupon-clipping lentil-dieting cheap.
- devnullbrain 4y ago
  The total addressable market is saturated now. Gains from Android are slow and difficult. So continued growth depends on more money from existing customers.
  - SllX 4y ago
    No. That’s the line, that’s the word on Wall Street, but it’s also complete crap. Apple spent a decade and a half as the iPhone company and for a long time that was exactly the right call. They have other product lines with more than enough room to grow in the market, but they have to hunger for it, like they did from 1998 to 2008 with the Mac, and 2007 through the current day with the iPhone. Almost anything Apple puts out will sell in quantity as long as it doesn’t have exactly a voice-controlled UI, and while Microsoft and Intel are busy shitting the Wintel bed Apple is putting out top-tier high margin computer hardware with obvious gaps on the low-end, the middle and the ultra high-end and the thing keeping Apple from fully capitalizing on that is they’re shitting the bed with their own OS and tunneled in on nickel-and-diming their existing install base. The global music industry was $26B in 2021: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60837880 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60837880 The global movie industry in 2021 was $90.2B: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/movies-entertainment-market https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/movies-e... The global TV industry in 2021 was $259.16B: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/television-market-report https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/televisi... Grand total: $375.36B Apple’s revenue in 2021 was $394.3B, and some portion of that is already accounted for in the Music, Movies and Television revenue for 2021 but if they really want to grow, then they need to go back to their roots: hardware running software of quality. Services will only be a segment and most of their “services” revenue depends substantially on the size of their hardware’s install base. They can still offer those, but if you build good products, the profit will follow. Apple was the one that built their business on that philosophy. Either that or become a bank.
musicale 4y ago
I hate upvoting this too but it's pretty clear that: 1) advertising does not belong in Settings 2) notifications - especially system notifications - should not be abused for pushing ads With regard to iCloud - 5 gigs is stingy compared to Google drive etc., but it's more than enough for the most essential parts: iCloud keychain, continuity, and storage for non-media apps like contacts/calendar/reminders (if you use them). The part I object to is using the OS for advertising.
- zitterbewegung 4y ago
  Would it belong as a separate app to configure if it wasn't in settings? Or maybe opt out when you setup the phone?
- selectodude 4y ago
  The issue is that a large number of their users have had iPhones for close to a decade now. 5GB worth of photos is absolutely nothing. I pay the $0.99/mo for extra storage but every time I do it, I wince a little and it costs them literally pennies to avoid giving me a bad taste in my mouth. I wish there was a way to self-host iCloud backups.
  - eastbound 4y ago
    The problem is each photo is 5MB. It’s insane. We should have different levels of compression depending on the album it’s in; My meme folder should only contain 200KB images, my parents souvenirs should be 5MB each indeed.
  - vdjao 4y ago
    iCloud backups of photos is possible without using iCloud. I use a photo syncing app on my phone that is paired with a SMB server in my home. It just dumps new photos whenever I’m on my home network. But I don’t get iCloud syncing photos to my Mac instantly. iCloud backups of device backups requires a Mac, then setting to sync via Wi-Fi.
    - billylindeman 4y ago
NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
>Hmm apple still makes great hardware but I think software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… I'm of the opinion that nobody makes a really nice user experience. My #1 complaint on every platform, website, device, OS, and software can be summed up as "Stop doing what you're doing, and do what I want." Computers and software should be tools that serve the user. They need to know their place! >These are just ads disguised as systems alerts … hurts the experience and comes off as cheap. Devil's advocate: I think a lot of users are idiots. Anyone who's been in software for a while will discover this: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*zffZ0ysfR4BokVvSxoaMZA.gif https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*zffZ0ysfR4BokVvSxo... I think you're not wrong that they're disguising these ads as alerts. But if it helps the user who doesn't care, or more importantly - doesn't understand - backup their photos for when they drop their phone in the lake will be better off, and overall happier with the whole experience. Save someone's irreplaceable photos one single time and you'll likely have a customer for life. Apple is very good at this kind of thing. People make fun of apple fans as idiots, but... it's hard to argue apple doesn't know their customers.
andrewljohnson 4y ago
It's true, but Windows is worse in these adware respects (I have both systems).
- _hyn3 4y ago
  We don't usually carry Windows everywhere we go, though and look at it at 3am.
_jal 4y ago
Apple makes me sad these days. The ads are super irritating, I can't believe a phone by the company that supposedly cares about user experience is pushing a fucking credit card offer. But that really shouldn't be surprising, considering... After the casino ads took over the App Store, it became apparent that they're just bullshitting about safety and trustworthy computing. Because why not, if you care about those things, where are you going to go, Android? Today's Apple is a mercenary bucket of quarterly-reporting driven MBAs. Any brand loyalty or trust I used to feel is gone. I stay logged out of Icloud, because if I don't, things keep uploading... stuff... to them, which absolutely should not happen, but does. So, Apple is qualitatively no better than MSFT at this point, worse in some ways. At least Redmond does't affect a smirky superior shithead attitude in their software.
- koolba 4y ago
  > After the casino ads took over the App Store, it became apparent that they're just bullshitting about safety and trustworthy computing. Because why not, if you care about those things, where are you going to go, Android? Ha-ha. Hopefully they’re at least vetting the casino apps. The only thing worse than shady casino ads are ads for shady casinos.
victor106 4y ago
> software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… I agree but Apple had lot of software issues when Jobs was CEO. Software can get incredibly complex and subjective to the user using it.
- eastbound 4y ago
  It’s also a different epoch. 1990 was all the rage about C. But now that a ReactJS dev can get paid 6 figures and move jobs easily in every big city, it’s much harder to find people who are passionate to build APFS or desktop apps for one vendor based in Cupertino.
  - pasc1878 4y ago
    I would be surprised if there was much overlap between those type of programmers. The ReactJS type is doing fancy thin gs on screens and does it for the money and for all sorts of places. The APFS builders are more likely to be passionate and look for specific work. But 30 years ago the ReactJS types would be working for corporations using VB but the system programmers would be doing similar to now. System programmers have always been rare and I suspectr less motivated by money more by having interesting work that affects many people.
gloryjulio 4y ago
Apple music is so obnoxious on mac that you can't delete it and it would popup by itself a lot
mlindner 4y ago
I agree on the software. I used to love using iTunes and used it for playing all my music. Then they released the "Music" app on the desktop that just removed almost all the features I loved about iTunes and made the user interface drastically worse.
CGamesPlay 4y ago
Not just the upsells, the software is declining in quality in terms of features as well. Both of these features used to work and now don't. - They removed iPhone sync from Music (nee iTunes), which makes sense, but the replacement in Finder doesn't support directories in file transfer. It shows them, you cannot expand them, placing files in a directory is possible and results in the files becoming inaccessible. Doubly stupid that the working file sync was in the Music app and not in the file management app. - AirDrop on macOS just hangs all the time. I am completely unable to send files from my laptop and the interface is just a beach ball. It really gives me hope that Apple is letting Linux play catch-up; I'd love to see a Linux experience that targeted the low-level usability of macOS 10! I'm talking OS-wide support for bundles, proxy icons, unified notifications interface... The target isn't moving any more, so it's reachable.
cute_boi 4y ago
this. Also, apple tries to lock with hardware so might, I find it too much frustrating. For example copy paste feature from iphone and mac os won't work if we don't login. And, 2fa is compulsory Apple hardware is top notch but software is ewwww...
vbezhenar 4y ago
Apple software isn't perfect, but so are alternatives. IMO it's just better.

startupsfail 4y ago

I’m surprised that Apple, as a company that had been carbon neutral since 2020 and had pledged to protect the environment hadn’t banned any use of Bitcoins from their platform altogether. Crypto carbon footprint is mind-boggling, estimates are 200 million tonnes of CO2 since the launch, not including the CO2 emitted to manufacture the hardware. Coinbase, that popularised all that mining to the general public should be considered as evil as other large CO2 emitters. And worse, all of these carbon emissions are for nothing, crypto seem only to be contributing to more exchanges crashes, fraud, money laundering and crime. With nothing to show on the positive side.

Mistletoe 4y ago
You are confusing Bitcoin with crypto. Ethereum uses drastically less energy after it transitioned to proof of stake. Many other cryptocurrencies are similar. https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption Nor do I agree with your assessment of banning Bitcoin because its power usage doesn’t match what we would like. I assume we all somewhat believe in the free market and the free market is solving this problem. Bitcoin price appreciation has been anemic at best and is only about 2% over the SP500 (+54%) in the past five years. Ethereum is quite a different story. +177%. Innovation is working. How much power and materials are wasted when Apple releases incremental changes with a new number each year to resell the same thing to materialistic buyers annually? Should they ban themselves for the greater good of the planet? I’d say so. https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/apples-colossal-e-waste-timebomb/ https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/apples-colossal-e-w... >Assuming the ecosystem was made up entirely of iPhones, an iPhone, on average, weighs 150g and are 130mm long. This means that you're looking at a pile of iPhones weighing 250,000 metric tons (the Empire State Building weighs in at roughly 330,000 metric tons), and if laid end-to-end would circle the Earth more than five times. And that’s just the e-waste. How much energy went into making them, how many dollars were wasted paying salaries and gas etc.?
- startupsfail 4y ago
  Crypto is bound to bitcoin. There is nothing that is holding that house of cards besides the bitcoins. As Ethereum and other coins do not have the cap. And near any investment into crypto contributes to the environmental damage from bitcoins. You can read Apple’s environmental report. And read the recent publications that analyse the environmental impact of crypto. And one of the biggest moves that Apple and Google can do as companies, to lessen the environmental impact is actually banning bitcoins and crypto. As someone who cares about the environment, I advocate for it. I don’t have any investments to Apple or Google or Bitcoins. Please, disclose any crypto investments, should you advocate for these.
cft 4y ago
I would recommend banning Netflix first while you are at it: data centers providing Netflix streaming services would consume around 370 TWh per year (Kamiya 2020) [1] That's not counting all the client devices power consumption while watching it. While BTC uses 87 TWh. [2] 1. https://blogs.salleurl.edu/en/energy-consumption-data-center#:~:text=Another%20recent%20claim%20is%20that,per%20year%20(Kamiya%202020) https://blogs.salleurl.edu/en/energy-consumption-data-center.... 2. https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index
- p1necone 4y ago
  Link 1 only references that claim to debunk it, mentioning that estimated energy usage from all datacenters in the world is less than 370 TWh.
  - yesenadam 4y ago
    True, it says "this value is 1.8 times larger than the 205 TWh estimated for all of the world’s data centers combined, which provide society with myriad other information services beyond just streaming Netflix videos."
mejutoco 4y ago
If you are going down this route, you can also consider the environmental impact of electronics and aluminum production, which takes a lot of energy (and pollutes too). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_smelting#Environmental_issues_of_aluminium_smelters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_smelting#Environment...
- cromulent 4y ago
  True. Apple has at least been making efforts to use recycled aluminum - 59% last year. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/04/apple-expands-the-use-of-recycled-materials-across-its-products/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/04/apple-expands-the-use...
- startupsfail 4y ago
  What are the actual positives from crypto? Had any been demonstrated? I see a lot of positives in having an iPhone. Say, my children can video-call their mom when she is travelling. Isn’t that amazing? Isn’t that worth the environmental impact, especially considering that Apple is carbon-neutral? What are the positives of crypto? I haven’t noticed any for 10 years it had been around. Only exchange crashes and hacks like MtGox, Fed investigators having to fight Silk Road and the crazy near-fraud exuberance of FTX and alike.

coffeebeqn 4y ago

I mean maybe the software is less quality than it used to be but so is it everywhere else. Software is more complex than it was. In OSes.. Windows, Android, Linux GUI are all jankier. Apple Music’s closest competitors are all electron-based resource hogs? Safari is still the best mobile browser

rjmunro 4y ago
I haven't use iOS in a while. What is better about Safari than other browsers?
counttheforks 4y ago
> Safari is still the best mobile browser Ha. https://caniuse.com/?compare=ios_saf+16.1&compareCats=all#results https://caniuse.com/?compare=ios_saf+16.1&compareCats=all#re...
- SllX 4y ago
  This might sound odd, but there is an entirely different axis by which to evaluate the quality of a browser than the web developer axis. If you look at the omissions, while there are some things I would prefer Apple to support (e.g. AV1 decoding), there’s also plenty in there whose omission of I consider a feature (basically anything on there that can be used for fingerprinting).
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    There is also two completely different axis for 'feature support' and 'security', neither of which need to be mutually exclusive. WebKit is really not the 'best mobile browser' any more than Microsoft Edge is the best Xbox browser.
  - realusername 4y ago
    It's not only about features, there's a lot of bugs on Safari mobile you don't really see because basically web devs takes enough time to solve them. I've experienced SVG bugs, z-index bugs, form bugs and even a few dom events bugs to name a few. Fortunately nowadays I don't need to support this browser anymore on my new company.

SllX 4y ago

I hated upvoting this but you’re right. I don’t use the App Store much anymore, nor Apple News that much even with an Apple One subscription and I just keep coming back to the fact that the only adware installed on my phone—and I’ve checked—is basically the system software itself. This is a premium phone at a premium price paired up with a range of premium-priced accessories. I know I get more than the value out of these devices than I’m putting in but damn does it feel like Apple isn’t just double-dipping, they’re like quadruple-dipping at least. There’s the money I paid, there’s the money I pay to Apple for services that I do actually want, which, fair, some things have an upkeep cost, there’s the money I pay to 3rd party developers which Apple takes a cut of, and then there’s the money they’re charging developers to put ads in my face when I do open the App Store. There is such a thing as a value-add, and your example of the 5GB iCloud storage? The fact that this is the base level no matter what model phone you purchase just feels downright cheap, and that’s theoretically shared with a Mac or an iPad or both. Actually gutter-dwelling penny-pinching coupon-clipping lentil-dieting cheap.

devnullbrain 4y ago
The total addressable market is saturated now. Gains from Android are slow and difficult. So continued growth depends on more money from existing customers.
- SllX 4y ago
  No. That’s the line, that’s the word on Wall Street, but it’s also complete crap. Apple spent a decade and a half as the iPhone company and for a long time that was exactly the right call. They have other product lines with more than enough room to grow in the market, but they have to hunger for it, like they did from 1998 to 2008 with the Mac, and 2007 through the current day with the iPhone. Almost anything Apple puts out will sell in quantity as long as it doesn’t have exactly a voice-controlled UI, and while Microsoft and Intel are busy shitting the Wintel bed Apple is putting out top-tier high margin computer hardware with obvious gaps on the low-end, the middle and the ultra high-end and the thing keeping Apple from fully capitalizing on that is they’re shitting the bed with their own OS and tunneled in on nickel-and-diming their existing install base. The global music industry was $26B in 2021: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60837880 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60837880 The global movie industry in 2021 was $90.2B: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/movies-entertainment-market https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/movies-e... The global TV industry in 2021 was $259.16B: https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/television-market-report https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/televisi... Grand total: $375.36B Apple’s revenue in 2021 was $394.3B, and some portion of that is already accounted for in the Music, Movies and Television revenue for 2021 but if they really want to grow, then they need to go back to their roots: hardware running software of quality. Services will only be a segment and most of their “services” revenue depends substantially on the size of their hardware’s install base. They can still offer those, but if you build good products, the profit will follow. Apple was the one that built their business on that philosophy. Either that or become a bank.

musicale 4y ago

I hate upvoting this too but it's pretty clear that: 1) advertising does not belong in Settings 2) notifications - especially system notifications - should not be abused for pushing ads With regard to iCloud - 5 gigs is stingy compared to Google drive etc., but it's more than enough for the most essential parts: iCloud keychain, continuity, and storage for non-media apps like contacts/calendar/reminders (if you use them). The part I object to is using the OS for advertising.

zitterbewegung 4y ago
Would it belong as a separate app to configure if it wasn't in settings? Or maybe opt out when you setup the phone?
selectodude 4y ago
The issue is that a large number of their users have had iPhones for close to a decade now. 5GB worth of photos is absolutely nothing. I pay the $0.99/mo for extra storage but every time I do it, I wince a little and it costs them literally pennies to avoid giving me a bad taste in my mouth. I wish there was a way to self-host iCloud backups.
- eastbound 4y ago
  The problem is each photo is 5MB. It’s insane. We should have different levels of compression depending on the album it’s in; My meme folder should only contain 200KB images, my parents souvenirs should be 5MB each indeed.
- vdjao 4y ago
  iCloud backups of photos is possible without using iCloud. I use a photo syncing app on my phone that is paired with a SMB server in my home. It just dumps new photos whenever I’m on my home network. But I don’t get iCloud syncing photos to my Mac instantly. iCloud backups of device backups requires a Mac, then setting to sync via Wi-Fi.
  - billylindeman 4y ago

NaturalPhallacy 4y ago

>Hmm apple still makes great hardware but I think software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… I'm of the opinion that nobody makes a really nice user experience. My #1 complaint on every platform, website, device, OS, and software can be summed up as "Stop doing what you're doing, and do what I want." Computers and software should be tools that serve the user. They need to know their place! >These are just ads disguised as systems alerts … hurts the experience and comes off as cheap. Devil's advocate: I think a lot of users are idiots. Anyone who's been in software for a while will discover this: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*zffZ0ysfR4BokVvSxoaMZA.gif https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*zffZ0ysfR4BokVvSxo... I think you're not wrong that they're disguising these ads as alerts. But if it helps the user who doesn't care, or more importantly - doesn't understand - backup their photos for when they drop their phone in the lake will be better off, and overall happier with the whole experience. Save someone's irreplaceable photos one single time and you'll likely have a customer for life. Apple is very good at this kind of thing. People make fun of apple fans as idiots, but... it's hard to argue apple doesn't know their customers.

andrewljohnson 4y ago

It's true, but Windows is worse in these adware respects (I have both systems).

_hyn3 4y ago
We don't usually carry Windows everywhere we go, though and look at it at 3am.

_jal 4y ago

Apple makes me sad these days. The ads are super irritating, I can't believe a phone by the company that supposedly cares about user experience is pushing a fucking credit card offer. But that really shouldn't be surprising, considering... After the casino ads took over the App Store, it became apparent that they're just bullshitting about safety and trustworthy computing. Because why not, if you care about those things, where are you going to go, Android? Today's Apple is a mercenary bucket of quarterly-reporting driven MBAs. Any brand loyalty or trust I used to feel is gone. I stay logged out of Icloud, because if I don't, things keep uploading... stuff... to them, which absolutely should not happen, but does. So, Apple is qualitatively no better than MSFT at this point, worse in some ways. At least Redmond does't affect a smirky superior shithead attitude in their software.

koolba 4y ago
> After the casino ads took over the App Store, it became apparent that they're just bullshitting about safety and trustworthy computing. Because why not, if you care about those things, where are you going to go, Android? Ha-ha. Hopefully they’re at least vetting the casino apps. The only thing worse than shady casino ads are ads for shady casinos.

victor106 4y ago

> software wise quality has suffered and this quote applies… I agree but Apple had lot of software issues when Jobs was CEO. Software can get incredibly complex and subjective to the user using it.

eastbound 4y ago
It’s also a different epoch. 1990 was all the rage about C. But now that a ReactJS dev can get paid 6 figures and move jobs easily in every big city, it’s much harder to find people who are passionate to build APFS or desktop apps for one vendor based in Cupertino.
- pasc1878 4y ago
  I would be surprised if there was much overlap between those type of programmers. The ReactJS type is doing fancy thin gs on screens and does it for the money and for all sorts of places. The APFS builders are more likely to be passionate and look for specific work. But 30 years ago the ReactJS types would be working for corporations using VB but the system programmers would be doing similar to now. System programmers have always been rare and I suspectr less motivated by money more by having interesting work that affects many people.

gloryjulio 4y ago

Apple music is so obnoxious on mac that you can't delete it and it would popup by itself a lot

mlindner 4y ago

I agree on the software. I used to love using iTunes and used it for playing all my music. Then they released the "Music" app on the desktop that just removed almost all the features I loved about iTunes and made the user interface drastically worse.

CGamesPlay 4y ago

Not just the upsells, the software is declining in quality in terms of features as well. Both of these features used to work and now don't. - They removed iPhone sync from Music (nee iTunes), which makes sense, but the replacement in Finder doesn't support directories in file transfer. It shows them, you cannot expand them, placing files in a directory is possible and results in the files becoming inaccessible. Doubly stupid that the working file sync was in the Music app and not in the file management app. - AirDrop on macOS just hangs all the time. I am completely unable to send files from my laptop and the interface is just a beach ball. It really gives me hope that Apple is letting Linux play catch-up; I'd love to see a Linux experience that targeted the low-level usability of macOS 10! I'm talking OS-wide support for bundles, proxy icons, unified notifications interface... The target isn't moving any more, so it's reachable.

cute_boi 4y ago

this. Also, apple tries to lock with hardware so might, I find it too much frustrating. For example copy paste feature from iphone and mac os won't work if we don't login. And, 2fa is compulsory Apple hardware is top notch but software is ewwww...

vbezhenar 4y ago

Apple software isn't perfect, but so are alternatives. IMO it's just better.