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Amazon makes it easy to sell especially with FBA. That's as much a good thing as it can be misused. It allows new businesses to get started when they cannot aff

Amazon makes it easy to sell especially with FBA. That's as much a good thing as it can be misused. It allows new businesses to get started when they cannot afford to handle shipping to customers themselves.

bradleyjg 4y ago
What’s a new company doing selling old spice deodorant? What possible legitimate angle could it have?
- Robotbeat 4y ago
  Same as any small business reselling stuff bought in bulk that people need like one or two of every year?
  - aliqot 4y ago
    One or two in a year? Is this a passing hobby or a hygiene regimen?
    - crackercrews 4y ago
      How many do you go through? Probably 2 for me. Definitely not more than 3.
      - ehnto 4y ago
        I think this conversation will be measuring string. Too many variables. What size container? What's the weather like where you are? How much do you put on each application? What do you do day to day? What's the weather like where you live? I live in Australia, and I am really active. Safe to say I will be sweating a lot more than someone living in Alaska who's a homebody, and so may use a bit more deodorant.
        crackercrews 4y ago
        Usage will vary. But the original statement made it seem like it would be unreasonable to use only one or two in a year.
        d1sxeyes 4y ago
        Perversely, I often find my use of deodorant increases in colder weather. Primarily this is because where I live, people seem to want to compensate by adding one degree to the thermostat for every degree it falls below 21—inside in winter can be absolutely boiling. This is made even worse by the fact that in order to leave the building (or when you first arrive), you're dressed for the outside weather.
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- Spooky23 4y ago
  There used to be a pretty active market in selling clearance stuff on Amazon and eBay.
  - bradleyjg 4y ago
    Amazon knows that the deodorant it’s selling is not discontinued or clearance. It knows Old Spice isn’t giving some mom and pop a better wholesale deal than the world’s largest retailer either. There’s no legit reason for there to be “other sellers” for that product, or really most any product it itself sells.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Amazon barely knows who is listing products on their site, whether the products are even legal, and sometimes they can’t even tell what a “product” is. https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/tech/cpsc-sues-amazon/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/tech/cpsc-sues-amazon/index.h... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/07/amazon-mails-postcards-to-sellers-to-prove-their-addresses-are-real.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/07/amazon-mails-postcards-to-se... https://slate.com/technology/2021/12/amazon-listings-wrong-reviews-why.html https://slate.com/technology/2021/12/amazon-listings-wrong-r...
      - nirimda 4y ago
        But that's because they deliberately chose not to know it. A responsible business would have processes in place to identify all of that information.
        ilyt 4y ago
        "responsible" doesn't earn them as much The only pressure on them to do it would be money. And not in "someone decides to not use them to buy some stuff" but getting sued for hundreds of millions
    - from 4y ago
      This is just false. There are "grey markets" for basically any major product. Quality King Distributors is one company that dominates this space and has been sued many times (they win nearly every time on the basis of the first sale doctrine and are responsible for [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_King_Distributors_Inc.,_v._L%27anza_Research_International_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_King_Distributors_Inc.....) case) for undercutting manufacturers. Example: Dollar General sells some prepaid phones at prices substantially lower than on eBay/Amazon but in limited amounts per customer. Companies will hire a bunch of runners to go buy the max amount of these phones to resell (or unlock and export to other countries). Or: "Diversion"/products that are intended to be exported to another country actually being reimported, liquidations/bankruptcy auctions etc. Lots of manufacturers and distributors who play by the rules don't like this because grey market distributors will undercut MSRP on places like Amazon so they will report the listings as fakes to get them removed.

bradleyjg 4y ago

What’s a new company doing selling old spice deodorant? What possible legitimate angle could it have?

Robotbeat 4y ago
Same as any small business reselling stuff bought in bulk that people need like one or two of every year?
- aliqot 4y ago
  One or two in a year? Is this a passing hobby or a hygiene regimen?
  - crackercrews 4y ago
    How many do you go through? Probably 2 for me. Definitely not more than 3.
    - ehnto 4y ago
      I think this conversation will be measuring string. Too many variables. What size container? What's the weather like where you are? How much do you put on each application? What do you do day to day? What's the weather like where you live? I live in Australia, and I am really active. Safe to say I will be sweating a lot more than someone living in Alaska who's a homebody, and so may use a bit more deodorant.
      - crackercrews 4y ago
        Usage will vary. But the original statement made it seem like it would be unreasonable to use only one or two in a year.
      - d1sxeyes 4y ago
        Perversely, I often find my use of deodorant increases in colder weather. Primarily this is because where I live, people seem to want to compensate by adding one degree to the thermostat for every degree it falls below 21—inside in winter can be absolutely boiling. This is made even worse by the fact that in order to leave the building (or when you first arrive), you're dressed for the outside weather.
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Spooky23 4y ago
There used to be a pretty active market in selling clearance stuff on Amazon and eBay.
- bradleyjg 4y ago
  Amazon knows that the deodorant it’s selling is not discontinued or clearance. It knows Old Spice isn’t giving some mom and pop a better wholesale deal than the world’s largest retailer either. There’s no legit reason for there to be “other sellers” for that product, or really most any product it itself sells.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Amazon barely knows who is listing products on their site, whether the products are even legal, and sometimes they can’t even tell what a “product” is. https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/tech/cpsc-sues-amazon/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/tech/cpsc-sues-amazon/index.h... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/07/amazon-mails-postcards-to-sellers-to-prove-their-addresses-are-real.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/07/amazon-mails-postcards-to-se... https://slate.com/technology/2021/12/amazon-listings-wrong-reviews-why.html https://slate.com/technology/2021/12/amazon-listings-wrong-r...
    - nirimda 4y ago
      But that's because they deliberately chose not to know it. A responsible business would have processes in place to identify all of that information.
      - ilyt 4y ago
        "responsible" doesn't earn them as much The only pressure on them to do it would be money. And not in "someone decides to not use them to buy some stuff" but getting sued for hundreds of millions
  - from 4y ago
    This is just false. There are "grey markets" for basically any major product. Quality King Distributors is one company that dominates this space and has been sued many times (they win nearly every time on the basis of the first sale doctrine and are responsible for [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_King_Distributors_Inc.,_v._L%27anza_Research_International_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_King_Distributors_Inc.....) case) for undercutting manufacturers. Example: Dollar General sells some prepaid phones at prices substantially lower than on eBay/Amazon but in limited amounts per customer. Companies will hire a bunch of runners to go buy the max amount of these phones to resell (or unlock and export to other countries). Or: "Diversion"/products that are intended to be exported to another country actually being reimported, liquidations/bankruptcy auctions etc. Lots of manufacturers and distributors who play by the rules don't like this because grey market distributors will undercut MSRP on places like Amazon so they will report the listings as fakes to get them removed.