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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs
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- UncleOxidant 4y agoInteresting that none of these twitter articles are making it to the front page.
- kidme5 4y ago
- snvzz 4y agoThat's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is: Too many are making it.
- zxlk21e 4y agohow are too many making it if none of them are making it?
- snvzz 4y ago>none of them are making it You do realize you're commenting on a story about Twitter that made it, right? Which is proof by counterexample that the statement is false.
- jcranmer 4y agoTwitter is collapsing so quickly and in such spectacular fashion that it would probably be better to have some sort of permathread that consolidates the latest updates on Twitter. At the rate it's going, Twitter may be spared all of the lawsuits coming its way simply by virtue of not existing by the time the lawsuits can come to fruition.
- PKop 4y agoWebsite and app working fine for me. Don't really see this "spectacular collapse" everyone seems to wish would happen
- coldcode 4y agoIt will until it stops. Then no one will be available to make it go again. Inertia eventually fails.
- kharak 4y agoHave to agree. I’m bewildered by the (social) media reaction so far. People, the app still works. Over a thousand employees will continue to work for Twitter. As far as I understand, Twitter is financially in a terrible state. Huge changes have to happen. Let’s all just wait and see how it will turn out.
- lijogdfljk 4y agoSure, but the "collapse" is terrible management here lol. Terrible, by the metric of his own inconsistent actions. To suddenly reverse the decision of accidentally laying off 80% of your workforce is hilarious. People aren't saying the app isn't working. If you lay off all of HR will your company still run tomorrow? Of course. Lay off all of engineering will the app still run tomorrow? Of course (most likely lol). The collapse is the implied result of all these terrible decisions. Terrible decisions which imply terrible leadership. And companies can only survive terrible leadership for so long.
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- humanistbot 4y agoIt's on the front page now.
- asdff 4y agoFirst one in days to be honest, usually they only crack 20 votes yet have three times as many comments.
- noahtallen 4y agoI saw two posts about this situation on the front page last night. Edit, links: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647882 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647882 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33651048 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33651048
- sorenjan 4y agoApparently Hacker news have some kind of anti-flamewar protection that automatically downwheighs threads with a lot of activity. I don't know how it works or if it's true, but I've seen high activity posts drop like a stone in their rating and quickly go from front page to several pages down.
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- mustacheemperor 4y agoI had the same thought, but as noahtallen pointed out there's been two on the front page in the last 24 hours, including one with over a thousand points. I'd be interested to hear dang explain how the ranking mechanics are at work in these posts, but I hunch it may simply be because there's not actually much there to engage community interest for very long. The downspiral has been very rapid but it's essentially just been one headline after another. There's only so much speculation to be made about how and why this is happening and only so many jokes to crack about it. And if the discussions are mostly cruft I wouldn't be surprised if they're being downranked. I look forward to seeing some in depth post-mortems and discussions about them here when the dust has settled, but for now it feels more like we're standing around a bonfire and nodding at one another.
- ifyoubuildit 4y agoI'm not sure it is. Is anyone seeing any comments in these threads that they couldn't have predicted before clicking in? It's mostly schadenfreude and naysaying. Which may even be justified, but it kinda makes for dull reading after a short while.
- GenerocUsername 4y agoI've always wanted to work for Musk, but never felt like I was skilled enough to work on spaceships or cars... But Twitter? I am thinking about applying, so go ahead and quit.
- sph 4y agoI want to work on cool things, not specific people. One should let go of idols past their teenage years.
- beernet 4y agoThat's pretty narrow-minded and limits your growth potential tremendously. Oh well, sometimes I forget this website is dominated by engineers...:)
- sgu999 4y agoDepends on your definition of growth...
- bastawhiz 4y agoYour career growth is bounded by the weaknesses of your idols. Being blind to those weaknesses limits your growth potential tremendously.
- beernet 4y agoThat is true and supports my statement. If you're chasing technology over people, from whose weaknesses and mistakes could you learn from, apart from your own?
- JohnTHaller 4y ago80hr+ in-office work weeks with no equity and the threat of being instantly fired for appearing disloyal in Slack or correcting the CEO... sounds fun!
- coolbreezetft22 4y agoSeeing Elon flail about so publicly like this is just hilarious to me. I feel like we're way off track right now from his original purpose of buying twitter (more free speech or something??? then it was bots then 8$ checkmarks and I can't even keep up anymore)
- thatguy0900 4y agoThose are all fairly related. If you want real free opinions, armies of bots running amok trying to create narratives is bad. And advertisers tend not to like some real opinions(and get weaponized fairly frequently when people see some opinions) so you need to reduce your reliance on them as well. Not that I think that a real free opinion forum would be very interesting, we already have 4chan.
- hprotagonist 4y agolook, my real free opinions are so important that i'm willing to automate sharing them!
- thatguy0900 4y agoWell, if you buy them all checkmark, they will probably be able to stay
- tjpnz 4y agoThis is what happens when you habitually work hundred plus hour weeks and perhaps get only five hours sleep a night. There's little to no method to his madness at this point.
- coolbreezetft22 4y agoIs he working though?? It seems to me that he just spends all day on twitter. Not all that different from myself actually, except no one is writing books and stories about me and my mythical 100 hour work weeks.
- giaour 4y agoAt this point, I'm kinda wondering if Musk's deal to finance the Twitter acquisition included some Brewster's Millions-style clause where he gets to keep the company and the $44B if the company goes bankrupt within 90 days.
- recuter 4y agoNext up, Twitter: The Musical on broadway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZahYy6c5_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZahYy6c5_E
- thro1 4y agoTo work off: We Will Find It https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SssjOT7E_Jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SssjOT7E_Jg
- JohnTHaller 4y agoAbout $2billion is owned by the Saudi prince with a penchant for murdering journalists. So... maybe?
- sschueller 4y agoAnd immunity as we just learned in another HN post.
- eternalban 4y agoYou and the OP have got the wrong prince. https://www.arabianbusiness.com/public/images/2014/09/03/alwaleed_dorsey.jpg https://www.arabianbusiness.com/public/images/2014/09/03/alw... https://www.businessinsider.com/prince-alwaleed-supports-dorsey-for-twitter-ceo-2015-6?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/prince-alwaleed-supports-dor... This prince ran afoul of the prince you are thinking off and spent some time in a hotel in KSA pondering what is more important: his health or his money. And let history record he was sensibly more concerned with his health. https://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/prince-alwaleed-finally-released-from-hotel-arrest https://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/prince-alwaleed-finally-rel...
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- elunmask 4y agoTrump highlighted this program in his 2024 announcement yesterday, We will again have peace through strength. We will protect our people from the unthinkable threat of nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles, the United States must also build a state of the art next generation missile defense shield, we need it, the power of these missiles and the power of a word that I refuse to say, nuclear, we have to have it, we need a defense shield. And we have to do it and we actually have the technology and we're gonna build it. Just as I rebuilt our military, I will get this done. We will plant our beautiful American flag very soon on the surface of Mars, which I got started. But we need everyone involved. We need everyone's help. We need to look out for one another. We need to be friends. And we need every Patriot on board. Because this is not just a campaign, this is a quest to save our country, talking about saving our country. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Most Republicans including DeSantis also support the program. I think Elon believed the Senate would go Republican last week and he could be called a kingmaker.
- snowwrestler 4y agoIf "most Republicans including DeSantis also support the program," why did Musk supposedly have to spend $44 billion to buy Twitter to influence them? This story makes no sense.
- anigbrowl 4y agoThere are other aerospace contractors. Musk spent $44 billion to influence the public, whose consent needs to be manufactured for the train of existing institutions to keep rolling. Enough public discourse happens on Twitter to make it territory worth capturing.
- greenhearth 4y agoWhat a bunch of shit this is. This is the same Star Wars nonsense from the 80s they tried to push and they're still pushing it lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative
- bluepoint 4y ago> Twitter reportedly no longer has a communications department to relay information to the media. Doesn’t look good.
- thatguy0900 4y agoMusk got rid of teslas a long time ago, seems par for the course for him
- JohnTHaller 4y agoNot sure if they have legal, compliance, or privacy at this point either.
- cpeterso 4y agoOr a payroll department. Good luck retaining any remaining employees if you can't pay them. And good luck hiring new payroll employees who will want to deal with the inevitable lawsuits in multiple countries about the firings, layoffs, and unpaid severance.
- memish 4y agoWhy is that not good? Twitter can communicate to people directly without the media middleman.
- apocalyptic0n3 4y agoThey previously had a team whose sole job was to respond to requests like this. If they no longer exist and the company relies solely on Musk being interested enough to respond, media outlets will never get a response before the article runs. It's bad for Twitter, bad for the article, bad for the readers. Even if it's just PR speak, it's still a response that can be analyzed by the other two parties in the story (the author and the reader).
- jcranmer 4y agoThe primary purpose of communications departments is to coordinate a uniform corporate messaging. Particularly when there's a negative story coming out, the communications department is going to be the one trying to explain away the negativity, and is likely to be more competent at talking its way out of situation than an individual is likely to be (see also the former CEO of FTX, who has more or less been confessing to fraud online in trying to explain his way out of the situation). Given that a social media company is almost invariably going to be caught in complicated negative stories like "$PLATFORM was found being used to coordinate genocide against Rohingyas in Myanmar" or "$TERRORIST posted manifesto on $PLATFORM before $TERRORIST_EVENT", not having anyone available to officially comment on those kinds of stories is... not a good idea. Even worse would be if you decide to let a shitposter be the point man...
- deeblering4 4y agoFull self destruction mode will be ready next quarter!
- alfor 4y agoI expect the opposite, massive growth and improvement in the next 12 months. There will be some hiccups, attacks and slanders pieces in the news. It will become the place where corruption get exposed if the government don’t manage to close it down. Quite a show for sure.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoWho is doing the growing when there's no one left to make stuff and/or those that remain don't know how the current stuff works? If he's going to rehire new people, who is going to want to work in an organization where you are deemed essentially the enemy of growth and are easily expendable?
- alfor 4y agoA lot of people are interested in working for him. Tesla and SpaceX fight for #1 and #2 spot for place to work. Is changing the auto industry, he is overpassing Nasa with a fraction of the budget. How much proof do you need?
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoYou're assuming that (1) Tesla and SpaceX's missions compare to that of Twitter and (2) the people at those companies like Elon and want to work specifically for him. Many people working at Tesla and SpaceX view Elon as a distraction to the mission, not an accelerant other than putting the pieces in place for the companies to exist.
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- Jerry2 4y agoIf you're a current Twitter employee and you dislike Musk, do no quit. Job market is super-tight and recession is coming like a freight train. So many companies are doing mass layoffs and hiring freezes. You will have hard time finding another job paying similar salary. No matter how hard things get at Twitter, at least you'll be able to pay the rent and pay for your food. It doesn't matter how good you are, even if you find another job in today's market, you will have to take a haircut.
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoThe people quitting are highly tenured and are n-xers. The job market is tight for the 95th percentile who don't fit in the long tail. They'll all be fine.
- coolbreezetft22 4y agoThe layoffs are so far confined mostly to "big tech" and other high-profile tech companies like Twitter and Stripe. After the Meta layoff news my linkedin was absolutely flooded by recruiters from smaller-mid size companies and non-tech companies looking for devs. As others have pointed out the laid off twitter employees have a good resume and will have no trouble getting interviews. Harder thing would be getting same or better pay maybe.
- zucked 4y agoI know of at least one company local to me who is actively trying to recruit ex-twitter staff. They'll be fine. We'll all be alright - we're in for a bit of a bumpy patch, but the industry over-hired, we let too many people hang out on the roof, and we need to redistribute. This is a perfect example of why having many employers of different industries and sizes is better for the ecosystem than having 10 mega employers.
- themitigating 4y agoIf I was in that situation I would quit. I would take the risk to make him suffer. He's a complete pile of garbage and I'm sick of shitty people who never get punished. Also he sent a letter that people had to sign about intensive work, if you didn't you get three months severance.
- dougSF70 4y agoHe is ingeniously driving up engagement with Twitter by using Twitter itself. Many people want him to fail, expect him to fail, are willing him to fail. Past evidence of his failures had yet to be found.
- systemvoltage 4y agoI haven't seen any indicators of Twitter failing besides 2FA failures; but every time I read anything on HN, it is doomed to fail. I feel like some of the resentful people here will try to hack into Twitter possibly get caught and see jail time? May be they will do something bad because this kind kind of irrational hate for a billionaire is not normal. Hell, even Peter Thiel doesn't get this vitroil. It reminds me of hate for Bill Gates by far-right nutjobs. Why do you guys hate Elon with your guts with such an intense passion?
- themitigating 4y ago1. Supporting the Republican party who I hate for lying about or supporting people who lied/are lying about election fraud. 2. Linking to an article that claimed Paul Pelosi's attacker was involved in a gay love triangle and it was a lover's quarrel. 3. Pedo guy 4. Making blue check marks paid leading to many parody accounts mimicking companies making offensive tweets. Then when those companies cut advertising claiming without evidence activist groups are conspiring against him. Etc
- systemvoltage 4y ago> Republican party who I hate I switched to Republican party since 2020 election, I wouldn't vote for election deniers [1] but plenty of people are doing the right thing. Rationality and reason seems to have shifted from liberals to conservatives. We can't even say biological facts. Many others are leaving the woke non-sense, I want my damn liberal party back from the 90's that was pro free speech and had a kernel of reason. Not this CCP-like authoritarianism path that we're heading towards. That said, party preference shouldn't be the reason to hate someone with passion like this. I admire plenty of progressive leaders and conservatives alike. Regarding 2/3/4, these are not the reasons to pick up pitchforks and hate someone with guts. He has done so many positive things for the world that completely outweight these quibbles. [1] That includes democrats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjnX4IUt_eo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjnX4IUt_eo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2Ejqjz6TA
- pavlov 4y agoIt would be interesting to know what portion of Twitter employees are on work visas and can’t easily take the offer to quit. I’d guess an international company like Twitter had several hundred people on H-1B, L1 and similar visas. After these voluntary layoffs it seems like there might be 2,000 employees left, so at least 10% of them would be on work visas by this napkin math.
- ibero 4y agoi won't link to them, but this is public information, at least for the H1-B. you can find the number for a given company and their respective positions.
- firstSpeaker 4y agoAnyone else has a link to this public information?
- anigbrowl 4y agoSeems the # of employees left is close to or under 1000. About 230 of those are on H1-Bs, I didn't look up others. There's additional information per table entry or you can download the data. https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employer-data-hub?topic_id=twitter&state=All&fy=All&naics=All&items_per_page=100 https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employe...
- KVFinn 4y agoDid Musk describe 'Breakthrough Twitter 2.0' in a separate message that hasn't been made public? "Stay at Twitter because we're moving to 80 hour work weeks and cancelling Christmas" can't be the argument by itself, right? It's got to be something like "Stay at Twitter because we're building exciting new project X, but we'll need 80 hour work weeks to pull this off..."
- BitwiseFool 4y agoWorking for one of Elon Musk's companies sounds brutal, but I can understand the appeal of burning hot and bright on something truly innovative. I would feel proud and motivated to work like crazy on something like Starship, but this is Twitter. I suspect Musk's strategy of appealing to people who want to change the world and be on the bleeding edge of technology won't hold up the same way as it did for his other companies.
- madeofpalk 4y ago> on something truly innovative. like twitter? apparently elon's master plan is 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism?
- unity1001 4y ago> 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism What's wrong with 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism.
- madeofpalk 4y agoAbsolutely nothing! Early blogging was great! But doing what happened 20 years ago is hardly "truly innovative"
- greenhearth 4y agoThis is Elon Musk MO. He invents nothing, just repackages and markets - the electric car (the very first kind of car invented over a hundred years ago) and going to space in a rocket? These are his big things and people eat it up. Why?
- Moctogo 4y agoWild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.
- rybosworld 4y agoThat's the one thing I think Musk has been spot-on about: Twitter had far too many employees, many of them doing what amounts to nothing.
- madeofpalk 4y agoOn the other hand, he hasn't stopped giving signals to his best talent that they're going to have a miserable time, and they should just quit. They would have a better time literally anywhere else. Even if we agree that company is 80% bloated, you probably want the best 20% to stay. --- In referring to a bunch of employees laid off, he said "I would like to apologize for firing these geniuses. Their immense talent will no doubt be of great use elsewhere"[1]. About another specific employee he said "A tragic case of adult onset Tourette’s"[2]. Why would talent ever want to work for a CEO who will fire you on the spot for whatever reason, turn around and say this about them publicly (or privately!). If I was still working at twitter, this would make me quit. [1]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592569305941807104 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592569305941807104 [2]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592582828499570688 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592582828499570688
- tootie 4y agoI think it's unlikely to just crash, but you're going to see more downtime, more security breaches, less effective moderation and they're probably going to lose revenue. Also, you'll just see more and worse ads. Unclear if they're actually saving more money than they're going to stop earning.
- mckirk 4y agoI was thinking the same thing with regards to security. If anyone wanted to attack Twitter, there probably won't come a better time than right now. I suspect there's a ton of disgruntled employees with some leftover access, and I doubt anyone has any idea who is responsible for patching servers and services at the moment.
- rem7 4y agoIn my opinion Elon miscalculated the type of people at Twitter. These aren’t people like the ones in Tesla or SpaceX where there is some sort of idealization of Elon. The number of fan boys he has at Twitter must be super low. None of the Twitter employees signed up to work for him, it’s pretty obvious from the public tweets that most of the staff has posted that they don’t have much respect for him. On top of that, as others have mentioned, Twitter as a product doesn’t comprare to SpaceX and Tesla and just saying “we’re gonna build Twitter 2.0 the bestest thing ever!” Isn’t particularly motivating enough to give up your work-life balance. Elon came in to a place that already has a culture established… and the people that are there that know how much they’re worth don’t really feel the need to put up with his bullying “my way or the high way”. Props to the people at Twitter for sticking to their beliefs. I think Elon also miscalculated the importance of work from home. I assume a lot of the engineers have the “millennial” mentality of “I work not live, I don’t live to work”.
- m_ke 4y agoEngineers interested in cars or rockets have way fewer exciting options than web devs working at Twitter.
- bunderbunder 4y agoVery much this. Anecdote time: I have an acquaintance who’s an engineer who works on nuclear power plant technology. They’ve wanted out of their current employer for over a decade now. Why have they stuck around? Because their current employer is the only one in a several thousand kilometer radius with any use for their expertise, one of only a couple they could work for without leaving the country, and one of only a handful whose primary language of business is one that they speak. Tesla, SpaceX, and perhaps even the Boring Company have much more in common with that situation than they do with Twitter.
- paxys 4y agoExactly. I don’t think people realize that a below average software engineer or product manager at Twitter has way better career prospects than a top rocket scientist at SpaceX.
- DeathArrow 4y agoIt's not like Twitter can't hire other people if they really need to. Most probably they don't need to.
- burkaman 4y agoWould you take a new job at Twitter right now?
- 0x5345414e 4y agoI think there are a lot of people that would. Are they the people that twitter actually needs? I’m not sure. But there are people that would. Some of them are in this thread.
- dboreham 4y agoCan they? People who are familiar with what I'm guessing is O(10^6) lines of Scala?
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- porknubbins 4y agoI don't know if you can compare SpaceX or Tesla to running a CRUD app. Engineering rockets is probably 100x harder than building twitter, but there is something very reassuring when all of the complexity of your product is embodied in a physical object you can touch and see, compared to an information context where you don't even know how many layers of abstractions you are working with.
- rco8786 4y agoIt depends on how you view the product. The raw engineering of building a rocket is certainly a lot harder than running a "CRUD" app...but it's also pretty reductive to call Twitter that. Twitter is a huge social network with a huge advertising network intertwined. The problems and challenges with that are very real, very difficult, and they are social problems rather than engineering problems. It seems like Elon overestimated how much his knowledge of building cars and rockets would transfer over to social networks.
- babelfish 4y agoDepth vs Breadth. A Tesla is much harder to engineer, but only needs to work for 4-5 people at any given moment. Twitter is a CRUD app, but needs to work for hundreds of millions (billions?) of people.
- spoils19 4y agoA Tesla has to work for the driver, passengers, the others on the road, pedestrians, the road itself - these are new problems never encountered before that Elon is tackling head-on. If you consider every person on the world to be connected (if they are physically touching the ground), a Tesla has to literally work for those billions of people.
- babelfish 4y agoA Tesla in Los Angeles does not have to work for a pedestrian in New York.
- 0x5345414e 4y agoI’m not sure why, but I have a feeling that, long term, this won’t turn out as poorly as everyone thinks.
- rhacker 4y agoI've been reading the left and the right sides on this whole thing... and I kinda agree with this one: https://www.newsweek.com/tantrum-twitter-reveals-how-privileged-liberal-laptop-class-really-opinion-1760629 https://www.newsweek.com/tantrum-twitter-reveals-how-privile... We're pretty damn spoiled.
- paxys 4y agoJust weeks ago these few thousand employees collectively generated $44 billion worth of value for their shareholders, but now suddenly they are all useless and spoiled and don’t deserve a penny. Funny how that works.
- spoils19 4y agoActually HN has taught me that CEOs generate the value for shareholders.
- rhacker 4y agoWell if you were to diagnose most companies there are probably 30-40 engineers that make the most value, like billions of dollars each. From there it starts dropping off like a long tail in search results. There's value, but a lot less than others. Cutting the long tail may still break huge areas of functionality - but the rest will patch and fix it over time. Heck there might be a team of 50 that has the sole responsibility to figure out the code/algorithms that puts something on the main page automatically. Instead that can temporarily be a small team of 3 people that rotate news articles or tweets. We tend to think "each employee generates $44B / 14000" but that's far from the truth.
- mustacheemperor 4y agoFollowing along your theory, do you expect that Twitter will achieve meteoric profit successes once this damage is patched, and that there will be an epic staffing contraction across tech afterwards? If you are correct then Twitter is about to demonstrate to the entire tech market that their staff headcounts are factors of ten beyond what is necessary to achieve equal success, and we should expect a massive course correction in the industry as a result. >there are probably 30-40 engineers that make the most value, like billions of dollars each. From there it starts dropping off like a long tail in search results. There's value, but a lot less than others. Cutting the long tail may still break huge areas of functionality - but the rest will patch and fix it over time. If this is true, then have companies like Microsoft, Apple, all just missed the big insight Elon has caught onto first? If the best engineers are generating a few billion in value each and can completely patch up the long tail, then Microsoft ought to be able to cut its staff down to about 200 such engineers, 300 if they want a lot of extra margin. 1.8T / 3bn per high performer. There's over 100k SWEs currently employed there, needless to say that's a big reduction in salary overhead.
- ausbah 4y agoworst part of this whole thing is how musk's attitude of how work should be done contributes to toxic work culture. rhetoric like "mission driven work", "long hours are the only way to change the world and get ahead", and "my way or the highway" as a successful businessman preys on people's (especially young people's) desire for social status, meaningful work, and money while in reality just enables overwork, underpay, shitty bosses, and every other aspect for a bad workplace
- coding123 4y agoI noticed yesterday on one website that was quoting a tweet that it looked all funny, like the service that places a tweet on another site wasn't working.
- WeylandYutani 4y agoWill the tech industry ever grow up? Telling people they are supposed to work 60-70 hours is not okay. No wonder everyone gets burned out and is desperate to retire at 40.
- gz5 4y agoPutting aside how this was handled, Elon is looking at a business which is losing money and doesn't have a clear path to make money, and acting accordingly. His priority is not to preserve the business - the business is broken as defined by cash flows. Can it be more 'broken'? Sure. Elon is taking that risk in exchange for increasing the probability (in his opinion) of reinventing Twitter as a sustainable business. That is a risk that each Twitter employee needs to decide if makes sense for their situation. So this unfortunate in many regards, but I don't think the core of this is materially different in scope than the type of situations which could develop at just about any one of our employer's (albeit it at a much larger scale than most).