7 ms·

10 years of FTL: The making of an enduring spaceship simulator

177 points by zdw 4y ago

CodeAndCuffs 4y ago
FTL is a great game. There is a super big mod called Multiverse that adds a huge story, 50+ new ships, new mechanics, new aliens, and more. It used to be a pain to install but now there's an exe for it. If you've bestent FTL, I'd highly recommend multiverse
- rejor121 4y ago
  Oh awesome. Ftl has been sitting in the queue for a long time now, might be time to redownload and get that mod
  - holonsphere 4y ago
    It's amazing. It turns it into a brand new game. More difficult but w waaaay more depth. It doesnt feel out of place in the universe.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
faeriechangling 4y ago
Quite a well designed rougelite especially for its time. You are able to win the vast majority of games and yet the game usually FEELS challenging the majority of the time. If you minmax it there's a few too many situations where stalling for extended periods of time is the optimal strategy, but even this can be remedied in quite a few cases using cheat engine to speed things up when you achieve a "known win" scenario. Once you master hard, playing hard without pause can extend the replay value further. The best part of the game is the soundtrack. On twitch the FTL soundtrack has to be getting more playtime on broadcasts of other games than on broadcasts of FTL itself. It's great atmospheric space themed music.
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  I haven't played FTL in years. What do you mean by "stalling" exactly? Do you mean visiting as many nodes in each region as possible and leaving just before the rebels catch you? Or waiting for the opposing crew to run out of oxygen?
  - masklinn 4y ago
    One strategy I remember was that if you got the right build against some foes you were literally invincible and could have low enough damage that you wouldn't destroy the enemy. So you could use that to level up your crew to all locations, which was a pretty big gain, especially early on and before / without clone bay (with a clone bay your dupes are expendable and lose skill, so getting them to level 2 is less valuable).
    - sebzim4500 4y ago
      Ah right, I do remember that actually. IIRC you could leave the game running in an asteroid field to level up evasion/shields until they patched it.
      - whaleofatw2022 4y ago
        Another tactic that comes to mind... My Shrike minmaxing strategy typically involves o2 depletion to whack enemy ships out and get maximum rewards. But it does frequently require a lot of waiting.
        hutzlibu 4y ago
        Bording is more fun and faster with the mantis/crystal. Or burning them out (optional with rock bording party)
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- unixhero 4y ago
riffraff 4y ago
I am not a hardcore game player but I enjoy non-graphics-heavy games, and I loved FTL. It's hard but not frustrating, varied, and short enough to play while waiting for something :) Runs fine on Mac too!
- ehnto 4y ago
  That's one of the reasons I like it as well, it plays like a board game. You usually start a fresh game, play it to finality, and that's it. Done for the night. Most games are egging you on to play over and over, longer and longer, but FTL is satiating in one game.
  - ggregoire 4y ago
    I got into board games lately and played quite a bit of On Mars. I wish there was a similar game but more focus on building and upgrading your spaceship.
- jasinjames 4y ago
  Do you get FPS drops in asteroid encounters too? I played the game ten years ago on my old 2012 MBP and it ran great. Now running on my 2017 The game slows to a crawl in astroid fights. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the game version, my MacOS version, or something else entirely.
  - riffraff 4y ago
    I did not notice it on my 2019 MBP.
Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
FTL is great, even if it becomes somewhat easy to beat once you figure out the best strategies for every set of weapons/devices the game is throwing your way. If you manage to get past Sector 1, you are almost sure to win.
- ArcticCelt 4y ago
  The one size fit all strategy I found when I played many years ago was to put all my crew in the infirmary and asphyxiate the boarding enemies by opening all airlocks :)
  - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
    That is just one obvious thing to do, of course. However, you need to destroy the enemy ship first. There easiest are teleportation-oriented and lasers-oriented. Teleportation oriented is extremely easy with Crystal crew, easy with mantis/rock crew, a must for 4-pad teleporter ships. Lasers oriented, best works with those lasers that use 2 power and have 3 shots, get 3 of them and enemy flagship is dead very soon. And if you are playing a drone or missile oriented game, you just need to figure out how to use the devices you happen upon on your flight to compliment your deficiencies.
  - chongli 4y ago
    The free expansion added cloning bays as an alternative to medical bays which prevent you from healing your crew but revive them from the dead after a short cloning phase. I remember getting stuck in one situation where my O2 system was destroyed and my crew were stuck in an infinite loop of cloning and running through an oxygen-free ship in a desperate attempt to repair the life support. Funny stuff but survivable if your cloning bay is upgraded (so that it clones faster).
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - faeriechangling 4y ago
    The hard AI is also coded to prioritise targeting your oxygen room when low on oxygen, which in various situations can cause a soft lock where you can't repair the oxygen room without dying and get stuck in the infirmary. Always hilarious when this happens.
hannofcart 4y ago
The next game that they made, Into the Breach, is also fantastic. I think Subset Games are true game design greats. Really admire their work.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Into the Breach is a puzzle game that doesn’t look like a puzzle game. As someone who hates puzzles, it was a sad surprise.
  - georgeecollins 4y ago
    I feel the same way exactly. I admire the craft but I don't want to spend time with it. Logic puzzles feel like work after a while. I like games I can play imperfectly.
  - ido 4y ago
    It’s not a puzzle in one critical sense: there is no single set solution to each level. I would say it’s an abstract, discrete (both turn- and grid-based) strategy game.
    - synu 4y ago
      At least to me it feels a lot closer to Sedoku than Civilization.
      - ido 4y ago
        Sure, it also feels closer to Sudoku than to Tennis. But I think it's closer to a "traditional roguelike" (like Jupiter Hell: https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ or Brogue: https://github.com/tmewett/BrogueCE https://github.com/tmewett/BrogueCE) than to either.
    - mysterydip 4y ago
      I think it's described as a tactics game, to emphasize decisions at the micro level, as opposed to a strategy game which usually is larger in scope and encompasses things like base building and resource gathering.
baq 4y ago
In hindsight FTL helped propel the roguelite genre to the heights it currently enjoys, with Hades coming almost a decade later and easily being one of the best games of 2020s (yes I’m calling out now in 2022)
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Not really comparable IMO. While FTL was real-time, it played almost like a turn-based game, there was no twitching or real action. Looking at Hades, it seems to be another stressful action game.
  - baq 4y ago
    I guess real time doesn’t really matter to me in a roguelite. The idea remains the same: start, die, repeat until you get good enough to win. Hades just takes that to the extreme - the player gets permanent bonuses for playing and the story requires multiple deaths to advance.
    - masklinn 4y ago
      > Hades just takes that to the extreme - the player gets permanent bonuses for playing and the story requires multiple deaths to advance. That's pretty standard for roguelites, the metaprogression is usually necessary. I guess FTL is the one one out there, because the metaprogression is only ships being unlocked IIRC.
  - senko 4y ago
    Just now replaying Hades, having finished it last year. In general, I dislike action games, don't want to learn key combos, and like to be able to save my progress. Yet for all that, Hades is probably (for me) the best game I have ever played. Action within each room is hectic, but in between (after you clear one and go to the next) there's time to think, power up, adjust your strategy, and then plunge into it again. The game handles death so well I actually wanted to die many times just so I could go back to the starting point and check new powerups. It was frustratingly hard (for me, casual gamer that really doesn't play action games) but even on those times I kept pushing because of the story. It's surprisingly good foe a rougelite (and action games in general). All this is to say, if you haven't played it, give it a try (at least a few runs, and explore the other character). You might be surprised.
nurettin 4y ago
Dying in space has never been so much fun. I've recently discovered this gem of a channel about philosophy and ftl https://youtu.be/L2HpA5u5qKc https://youtu.be/L2HpA5u5qKc
- postexitus 4y ago
  "War! Never been so much fun!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0
- 999900000999 4y ago
  This is why I love HN. Watching right now !
MayeulC 4y ago
FTL's design sems like it would work well on a touchscreen, bu I have never seen a port. The closest we got was the asm.js humble bundle, but I was not able to extract it. I wish they open-sourced the game, like VVVVVV was. Oh well, at least Fex-Emu, Box86 & co are progressing well :)
- thedufer 4y ago
  FTL is in the app store on iOS. I remember playing it on an iPad years ago - looks like it's been available there since 2014.
- entiendo 4y ago
  It is currently available for iPad only. The developers apparently felt that the iPhone screen was too small.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    If only they had known...
- jfb 4y ago
  It works great on the iPad. In fact, it is a superior experience to keyboard/mouse.
Buttons840 4y ago
I used to really enjoy watching people stream FTL, but my favorite FTL streamers have become so good at the game that in 80% of the fights, it's not actually a fight. The enemy ship is incapable of damaging them. It makes the game boring to watch when the main point of excitement is whether or not the enemies will be able to sneak in 1 or 2 points of hull damage this entire sector. There's just no chance of losing a lot of the time, no sense of danger, no struggle. I know this is a very minor late game complaint. The game is tough, and this only effects the very best, but it's something I've thought about many times and I was wondering if anyone else has thought the same?
- justnotworthit 4y ago
  random thoughts: i think some games more execution focus. "harder" is more finesse in execution. some are more knowledge; getting better is arcane knowledge about the smallest details. most are some mix. I look at what "being good" is, and what devs have to do to add a player-demanded "higher difficulty", and what players have to do beat it. What's fascinating is how the experience changes; Sometimes that means "breaking" the game (check-pointing and cheesing), sometimes not.
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  It took many many years to get to the point the game got played out to the point people could feasibly streak 100 games in a row with random ships without pausing. People just got too good at exploiting game mechanics. People broke Issac long before they broke FTL and I never thought Isaac was a bad game. I think that FTL has largely been abandoned because it has been played out but it did take quite a few years to get there. Designing a game that is consistently hard without just regularly throwing you seeds that are impossible to win is difficult to impossible and at some point I think you need to move onto a new game.
- rasz 4y ago
  Ah the good old DolphinChemist and his Completing the FTL Hard/No Pause/All Ships Challenge come to mind :) https://www.twitch.tv/dolphinchemist/video/28582788?filter=clips&range=30d https://www.twitch.tv/dolphinchemist/video/28582788?filter=c...
debo_ 4y ago
If you'd like to play something roguelikey in space with more freedom to roam, the Trees Brothers have an incredible series of games that are just super fun (and punishingly hard, if you decide to choose the more difficult modes.) Check out "Star Traders: Frontiers" here: https://www.tresebrothers.com/ https://www.tresebrothers.com/
vba616 4y ago
"the whole captain simulation system hadn't really been explored before" There was a science fiction story a long time ago, probably from the 70s or 80s that I don't recall well enough to identify, but in the story people were playing a war game where each human player was sort of like a general without direct control over their side's forces. The simulation was extremely detailed and the battles were recreations of historical events, but the gameplay was very high level. When WarCraft and StarCraft came along, I wasn't that impressed because the skills required seemed so micro-manage-y and unrealistic. Has anyone ever come up with an AI that lets players be commanders at a very high level? Where things unfold in real time, with elaborate graphics, but without the ability to control each individual unit. Even if it was dumb, it could cause interesting problems with command and control.
- puffoflogic 4y ago
  I think your request needs more clarification. By the letter, Total War (tactical level) would qualify since combat at least nominally happens soldier-by-soldier, but the player has control over larger groups of soldiers only. But I don't think this is quite what you're looking for. The player is still freely able to order units to take action and they will at least attempt to obey instantly, albeit fallibly due to mechanics like momentum, close engagement with the enemy on one or more sides, or routing. In fact I think TW is an anti-example because the units having failed to obey an immediate directive cannot be made to accomplish a general goal without repeated direct commands. There's also something like Gratuitous Space Battles (or worse, Stellaris' combat mechanics) where the player has no combat control at all, but it also doesn't seem quite right. I fear the formula may simply not be very fun. GSB may push the envelope on how much you can take the player out of the loop without losing the plot, but even there I suspect it borrows quite a lot from strategic games like Stellaris (or any Paradox grand strategy) where the tactical layer exists solely to validate or falsify the players' strategic decisions in a slightly more dynamic way than "bigger number wins".
- rasz 4y ago
  Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord. You can play Starsector completely hands free during battles.

177 points by zdw 4y ago

FTL is a great game. There is a super big mod called Multiverse that adds a huge story, 50+ new ships, new mechanics, new aliens, and more. It used to be a pain to install but now there's an exe for it. If you've bestent FTL, I'd highly recommend multiverse

rejor121 4y ago
Oh awesome. Ftl has been sitting in the queue for a long time now, might be time to redownload and get that mod
- holonsphere 4y ago
  It's amazing. It turns it into a brand new game. More difficult but w waaaay more depth. It doesnt feel out of place in the universe.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]

faeriechangling 4y ago

Quite a well designed rougelite especially for its time. You are able to win the vast majority of games and yet the game usually FEELS challenging the majority of the time. If you minmax it there's a few too many situations where stalling for extended periods of time is the optimal strategy, but even this can be remedied in quite a few cases using cheat engine to speed things up when you achieve a "known win" scenario. Once you master hard, playing hard without pause can extend the replay value further. The best part of the game is the soundtrack. On twitch the FTL soundtrack has to be getting more playtime on broadcasts of other games than on broadcasts of FTL itself. It's great atmospheric space themed music.

sebzim4500 4y ago
I haven't played FTL in years. What do you mean by "stalling" exactly? Do you mean visiting as many nodes in each region as possible and leaving just before the rebels catch you? Or waiting for the opposing crew to run out of oxygen?
- masklinn 4y ago
  One strategy I remember was that if you got the right build against some foes you were literally invincible and could have low enough damage that you wouldn't destroy the enemy. So you could use that to level up your crew to all locations, which was a pretty big gain, especially early on and before / without clone bay (with a clone bay your dupes are expendable and lose skill, so getting them to level 2 is less valuable).
  - sebzim4500 4y ago
    Ah right, I do remember that actually. IIRC you could leave the game running in an asteroid field to level up evasion/shields until they patched it.
    - whaleofatw2022 4y ago
      Another tactic that comes to mind... My Shrike minmaxing strategy typically involves o2 depletion to whack enemy ships out and get maximum rewards. But it does frequently require a lot of waiting.
      - hutzlibu 4y ago
        Bording is more fun and faster with the mantis/crystal. Or burning them out (optional with rock bording party)
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
unixhero 4y ago

riffraff 4y ago

I am not a hardcore game player but I enjoy non-graphics-heavy games, and I loved FTL. It's hard but not frustrating, varied, and short enough to play while waiting for something :) Runs fine on Mac too!

ehnto 4y ago
That's one of the reasons I like it as well, it plays like a board game. You usually start a fresh game, play it to finality, and that's it. Done for the night. Most games are egging you on to play over and over, longer and longer, but FTL is satiating in one game.
- ggregoire 4y ago
  I got into board games lately and played quite a bit of On Mars. I wish there was a similar game but more focus on building and upgrading your spaceship.
jasinjames 4y ago
Do you get FPS drops in asteroid encounters too? I played the game ten years ago on my old 2012 MBP and it ran great. Now running on my 2017 The game slows to a crawl in astroid fights. I'm not sure if it's an issue with the game version, my MacOS version, or something else entirely.
- riffraff 4y ago
  I did not notice it on my 2019 MBP.

Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago

FTL is great, even if it becomes somewhat easy to beat once you figure out the best strategies for every set of weapons/devices the game is throwing your way. If you manage to get past Sector 1, you are almost sure to win.

ArcticCelt 4y ago
The one size fit all strategy I found when I played many years ago was to put all my crew in the infirmary and asphyxiate the boarding enemies by opening all airlocks :)
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
  That is just one obvious thing to do, of course. However, you need to destroy the enemy ship first. There easiest are teleportation-oriented and lasers-oriented. Teleportation oriented is extremely easy with Crystal crew, easy with mantis/rock crew, a must for 4-pad teleporter ships. Lasers oriented, best works with those lasers that use 2 power and have 3 shots, get 3 of them and enemy flagship is dead very soon. And if you are playing a drone or missile oriented game, you just need to figure out how to use the devices you happen upon on your flight to compliment your deficiencies.
- chongli 4y ago
  The free expansion added cloning bays as an alternative to medical bays which prevent you from healing your crew but revive them from the dead after a short cloning phase. I remember getting stuck in one situation where my O2 system was destroyed and my crew were stuck in an infinite loop of cloning and running through an oxygen-free ship in a desperate attempt to repair the life support. Funny stuff but survivable if your cloning bay is upgraded (so that it clones faster).
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  The hard AI is also coded to prioritise targeting your oxygen room when low on oxygen, which in various situations can cause a soft lock where you can't repair the oxygen room without dying and get stuck in the infirmary. Always hilarious when this happens.

hannofcart 4y ago

The next game that they made, Into the Breach, is also fantastic. I think Subset Games are true game design greats. Really admire their work.

Semaphor 4y ago
Into the Breach is a puzzle game that doesn’t look like a puzzle game. As someone who hates puzzles, it was a sad surprise.
- georgeecollins 4y ago
  I feel the same way exactly. I admire the craft but I don't want to spend time with it. Logic puzzles feel like work after a while. I like games I can play imperfectly.
- ido 4y ago
  It’s not a puzzle in one critical sense: there is no single set solution to each level. I would say it’s an abstract, discrete (both turn- and grid-based) strategy game.
  - synu 4y ago
    At least to me it feels a lot closer to Sedoku than Civilization.
    - ido 4y ago
      Sure, it also feels closer to Sudoku than to Tennis. But I think it's closer to a "traditional roguelike" (like Jupiter Hell: https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ or Brogue: https://github.com/tmewett/BrogueCE https://github.com/tmewett/BrogueCE) than to either.
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    I think it's described as a tactics game, to emphasize decisions at the micro level, as opposed to a strategy game which usually is larger in scope and encompasses things like base building and resource gathering.

baq 4y ago

In hindsight FTL helped propel the roguelite genre to the heights it currently enjoys, with Hades coming almost a decade later and easily being one of the best games of 2020s (yes I’m calling out now in 2022)

Semaphor 4y ago
Not really comparable IMO. While FTL was real-time, it played almost like a turn-based game, there was no twitching or real action. Looking at Hades, it seems to be another stressful action game.
- baq 4y ago
  I guess real time doesn’t really matter to me in a roguelite. The idea remains the same: start, die, repeat until you get good enough to win. Hades just takes that to the extreme - the player gets permanent bonuses for playing and the story requires multiple deaths to advance.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    > Hades just takes that to the extreme - the player gets permanent bonuses for playing and the story requires multiple deaths to advance. That's pretty standard for roguelites, the metaprogression is usually necessary. I guess FTL is the one one out there, because the metaprogression is only ships being unlocked IIRC.
- senko 4y ago
  Just now replaying Hades, having finished it last year. In general, I dislike action games, don't want to learn key combos, and like to be able to save my progress. Yet for all that, Hades is probably (for me) the best game I have ever played. Action within each room is hectic, but in between (after you clear one and go to the next) there's time to think, power up, adjust your strategy, and then plunge into it again. The game handles death so well I actually wanted to die many times just so I could go back to the starting point and check new powerups. It was frustratingly hard (for me, casual gamer that really doesn't play action games) but even on those times I kept pushing because of the story. It's surprisingly good foe a rougelite (and action games in general). All this is to say, if you haven't played it, give it a try (at least a few runs, and explore the other character). You might be surprised.

nurettin 4y ago

Dying in space has never been so much fun. I've recently discovered this gem of a channel about philosophy and ftl https://youtu.be/L2HpA5u5qKc https://youtu.be/L2HpA5u5qKc

postexitus 4y ago
"War! Never been so much fun!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0
999900000999 4y ago
This is why I love HN. Watching right now !

MayeulC 4y ago

FTL's design sems like it would work well on a touchscreen, bu I have never seen a port. The closest we got was the asm.js humble bundle, but I was not able to extract it. I wish they open-sourced the game, like VVVVVV was. Oh well, at least Fex-Emu, Box86 & co are progressing well :)

thedufer 4y ago
FTL is in the app store on iOS. I remember playing it on an iPad years ago - looks like it's been available there since 2014.
entiendo 4y ago
It is currently available for iPad only. The developers apparently felt that the iPhone screen was too small.
- LoganDark 4y ago
  If only they had known...
jfb 4y ago
It works great on the iPad. In fact, it is a superior experience to keyboard/mouse.

Buttons840 4y ago

I used to really enjoy watching people stream FTL, but my favorite FTL streamers have become so good at the game that in 80% of the fights, it's not actually a fight. The enemy ship is incapable of damaging them. It makes the game boring to watch when the main point of excitement is whether or not the enemies will be able to sneak in 1 or 2 points of hull damage this entire sector. There's just no chance of losing a lot of the time, no sense of danger, no struggle. I know this is a very minor late game complaint. The game is tough, and this only effects the very best, but it's something I've thought about many times and I was wondering if anyone else has thought the same?

justnotworthit 4y ago
random thoughts: i think some games more execution focus. "harder" is more finesse in execution. some are more knowledge; getting better is arcane knowledge about the smallest details. most are some mix. I look at what "being good" is, and what devs have to do to add a player-demanded "higher difficulty", and what players have to do beat it. What's fascinating is how the experience changes; Sometimes that means "breaking" the game (check-pointing and cheesing), sometimes not.
faeriechangling 4y ago
It took many many years to get to the point the game got played out to the point people could feasibly streak 100 games in a row with random ships without pausing. People just got too good at exploiting game mechanics. People broke Issac long before they broke FTL and I never thought Isaac was a bad game. I think that FTL has largely been abandoned because it has been played out but it did take quite a few years to get there. Designing a game that is consistently hard without just regularly throwing you seeds that are impossible to win is difficult to impossible and at some point I think you need to move onto a new game.
rasz 4y ago
Ah the good old DolphinChemist and his Completing the FTL Hard/No Pause/All Ships Challenge come to mind :) https://www.twitch.tv/dolphinchemist/video/28582788?filter=clips&range=30d https://www.twitch.tv/dolphinchemist/video/28582788?filter=c...

debo_ 4y ago

If you'd like to play something roguelikey in space with more freedom to roam, the Trees Brothers have an incredible series of games that are just super fun (and punishingly hard, if you decide to choose the more difficult modes.) Check out "Star Traders: Frontiers" here: https://www.tresebrothers.com/ https://www.tresebrothers.com/

vba616 4y ago

"the whole captain simulation system hadn't really been explored before" There was a science fiction story a long time ago, probably from the 70s or 80s that I don't recall well enough to identify, but in the story people were playing a war game where each human player was sort of like a general without direct control over their side's forces. The simulation was extremely detailed and the battles were recreations of historical events, but the gameplay was very high level. When WarCraft and StarCraft came along, I wasn't that impressed because the skills required seemed so micro-manage-y and unrealistic. Has anyone ever come up with an AI that lets players be commanders at a very high level? Where things unfold in real time, with elaborate graphics, but without the ability to control each individual unit. Even if it was dumb, it could cause interesting problems with command and control.

puffoflogic 4y ago
I think your request needs more clarification. By the letter, Total War (tactical level) would qualify since combat at least nominally happens soldier-by-soldier, but the player has control over larger groups of soldiers only. But I don't think this is quite what you're looking for. The player is still freely able to order units to take action and they will at least attempt to obey instantly, albeit fallibly due to mechanics like momentum, close engagement with the enemy on one or more sides, or routing. In fact I think TW is an anti-example because the units having failed to obey an immediate directive cannot be made to accomplish a general goal without repeated direct commands. There's also something like Gratuitous Space Battles (or worse, Stellaris' combat mechanics) where the player has no combat control at all, but it also doesn't seem quite right. I fear the formula may simply not be very fun. GSB may push the envelope on how much you can take the player out of the loop without losing the plot, but even there I suspect it borrows quite a lot from strategic games like Stellaris (or any Paradox grand strategy) where the tactical layer exists solely to validate or falsify the players' strategic decisions in a slightly more dynamic way than "bigger number wins".
rasz 4y ago
Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord. You can play Starsector completely hands free during battles.