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I keep my camera off all the time because I don't like having it on when I'm tabbed off doing my actual job. While the PM is bleeting on about whatever they fee

I keep my camera off all the time because I don't like having it on when I'm tabbed off doing my actual job. While the PM is bleeting on about whatever they feel is important I can do actual work. Cameras shouldn't be required. Learn to vet your employees.

veb 4y ago
For me personally I need people's cameras on as I find hearing a bit difficult (I wear a cochlear implant) so I utilise lip-reading to fill in the gaps.
- Test0129 4y ago
  That's a good counter-argument. Don't most major providers provide closed captions? Or is it only Google Meet?
  - AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
    Skype does, teams does not, slack does not.
    - Mandatum 4y ago
      Zoom does, Teams does, Slack does.
- WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
  How do you manage it if there are latency issues / sudden quality drops?
urbandw311er 4y ago
Personally I find it disrespectful when people don’t pay attention in meetings and decide they’re going to make their own call about what’s important and what isn’t. So I’d probably enforce the “camera on” policy, notice that you’re not paying attention and this means the issue gets discussed. At this point I do more digging/reviews and I either agree with your point and work with the PM to get them to be more concise, or I disagree with you and you’re released from the team for having values that don’t align with ours. Either way my problem gets fixed because I had people put their cameras on and communicate like grown ups.
- benhurmarcel 4y ago
  ICs literally have half their work time taken by meetings here. Nothing would get done if they didn't work at the same time.
- cloverr20 4y ago
  I think you are not seeing from the other side, many times the information conveyed for a certain duration is not relevant for some members of the team, instead of always saying i dont want to join this meeting entirely its much easy to only listen the parts that are relevant to you. Using a camera and forcing them to look won't help much here, as they won't be paying attention still.
- amflare 4y ago
  Personally I find it disrespectful to be pulled into random meetings I have no reason to be in. Or be held up in meetings that are 45 minutes longer than they need to be. "They are paying you" only goes so far. If I wanted to be paid to be in meetings, I would have gotten a business degree.
  - nicoburns 4y ago
    Right, so the solution here is not to have you in the meeting if you’re not required (and perhaps give individuals some latitude to decide for themselves whether they’re required), but if you are in the meeting you ought to be paying attention.
    - mrelectric 4y ago
      I'm not your slave. If you have important info, I'll listen. If I think you're wasting our time then you are, unless you convince me otherwise.
      - pc86 4y ago
        This is the kind of attitude and response I would expect from a 9 year old, not a professional adult. If you think you're not needed in a meeting, or the content isn't relevant, or someone else should be there instead, pretend you're an adult human and raise the issue. But if you're going to be in the meeting, pay attention. It's astounding to me that this could be a controversial statement.
WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
Turn it on for the initial greetings, turn it off for the rest of the time, on a big enough call nobody is paying attention anyway. Turn it on if you need to speak. I don't think your crown would fall off your head if you did that, and it would be a compromise.

veb 4y ago

For me personally I need people's cameras on as I find hearing a bit difficult (I wear a cochlear implant) so I utilise lip-reading to fill in the gaps.

Test0129 4y ago
That's a good counter-argument. Don't most major providers provide closed captions? Or is it only Google Meet?
- AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
  Skype does, teams does not, slack does not.
  - Mandatum 4y ago
    Zoom does, Teams does, Slack does.
WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
How do you manage it if there are latency issues / sudden quality drops?

urbandw311er 4y ago

Personally I find it disrespectful when people don’t pay attention in meetings and decide they’re going to make their own call about what’s important and what isn’t. So I’d probably enforce the “camera on” policy, notice that you’re not paying attention and this means the issue gets discussed. At this point I do more digging/reviews and I either agree with your point and work with the PM to get them to be more concise, or I disagree with you and you’re released from the team for having values that don’t align with ours. Either way my problem gets fixed because I had people put their cameras on and communicate like grown ups.

benhurmarcel 4y ago
ICs literally have half their work time taken by meetings here. Nothing would get done if they didn't work at the same time.
cloverr20 4y ago
I think you are not seeing from the other side, many times the information conveyed for a certain duration is not relevant for some members of the team, instead of always saying i dont want to join this meeting entirely its much easy to only listen the parts that are relevant to you. Using a camera and forcing them to look won't help much here, as they won't be paying attention still.
amflare 4y ago
Personally I find it disrespectful to be pulled into random meetings I have no reason to be in. Or be held up in meetings that are 45 minutes longer than they need to be. "They are paying you" only goes so far. If I wanted to be paid to be in meetings, I would have gotten a business degree.
- nicoburns 4y ago
  Right, so the solution here is not to have you in the meeting if you’re not required (and perhaps give individuals some latitude to decide for themselves whether they’re required), but if you are in the meeting you ought to be paying attention.
  - mrelectric 4y ago
    I'm not your slave. If you have important info, I'll listen. If I think you're wasting our time then you are, unless you convince me otherwise.
    - pc86 4y ago
      This is the kind of attitude and response I would expect from a 9 year old, not a professional adult. If you think you're not needed in a meeting, or the content isn't relevant, or someone else should be there instead, pretend you're an adult human and raise the issue. But if you're going to be in the meeting, pay attention. It's astounding to me that this could be a controversial statement.

WesolyKubeczek 4y ago

Turn it on for the initial greetings, turn it off for the rest of the time, on a big enough call nobody is paying attention anyway. Turn it on if you need to speak. I don't think your crown would fall off your head if you did that, and it would be a compromise.